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Mock Draft 3.0

First off, let me just say one thing.  The media is already all over this "slip up" in which GM Jeff Ireland may or may not have inadvertently shown Miami's hand.  The south Florida papers, especially, are already beating this story into the ground.  But in reality, who really has any idea at all what it means?  If the Dolphins were looking to go defense, then why (with 8 days left until the draft) have the Dolphins only opened up contract talks with one player, an offensive tackle at that?  At this point, nobody has any idea what Miami's plans are or if Ireland's "slip up" was actually a mistake or if it was planned.  Granted, it didn't seem too planned when watching it.  But maybe Jeff's just a very good actor.  Just don't blow this story out of proportion.

Moving on, since it's Friday and there isn't anything really new to discuss, I thought I'd just throw up my latest mock draft and then get some thoughts from you guys.  Also, I wanted to get some ideas on a draft contest we could do.  Right now, I'm thinking we do a top 10 mock draft competition where we see who can more accurately guess the top 10 picks.  But any other ideas lave below and we'll discuss them.

Now onto the mock draft:

1. Miami Dolphins - Jake Long, OT, Michigan
This is the first time that somebody other than Chris Long is the guy I list at #1.  But I guess, right now, it just seems like this pick makes too much sense for the Dolphins.  There's clearly a need for a tackle, and he's the best one in the draft.  Theoretically, it's a match made in heaven.  But that's just "theory."  We'll see what happens a week from now.

2. St. Louis Rams - Chris Long, DE, Virginia
I think they'd love for Jake to fall to them.  But if he doesn't, Chris Long or Glenn Dorsey make the most sense.  Drafting Dorsey would let Adam Carriker, last year's #1 pick, move back to end.  Or he could remain at DT and Long could fill the need at end.  I put Chris here, though, because I simply have him graded slightly above Dorsey.

3. Atlanta Falcons - Glenn Dorsey, DT, LSU
Another team that would probably like either of the 2 that are already gone.  Many have Matt Ryan pegged to go here, as did I, but now I think they will land a QB with one of their 2nd rounders.  They might even trade back into the end of the 1st round like Cleveland did a year ago.  So at #3, they take the best defensive lineman still left on the board.

4. Oakland Raiders - Darren McFadden, RB, Arkansas
Al Davis loves measurables and great athletes.  That means I think this pick is between McFadden and Vernon Gholston.  And even though I'd take Gholston if I was them (remember the Raiders got Justin Fargas and a healthy Michael Bush), I think Al Davis is just crazy enough to take the top offensive player in the draft and pair him with JaMarcus Russell for the foreseeable future.  That's not a bad way to build an offense, is it?

5. Kansas City Chiefs - Matt Ryan, QB, Boston College
I just get a feeling that the Chiefs are praying that Ryan falls to them.  I'd bet that the top 2 on their board, who fill big needs, are probably Ryan and Jake Long.  With Ryan slipping to them, I'd really be surprised to see Carl Peterson and company pass on Ryan.

6. New York Jets - Vernon Gholston, DE/OLB, Ohio St.
I think we'll be very lucky if McFadden doesn't slip to the Jets because they would love to have him.  Of course, I'm not too happy with the Jets getting Gholston, either.  He's got the potential to really be a star, but doesn't come without question marks, either.  He's a classic "boom or bust" kind of player.

7. New England Patriots - Leodis McKelvin, CB, Troy
I could see the Patriots going a couple different routes here.  I could see a guy like Keith Rivers being the pick.  I think they could take a look at lineman like Ryan Clady or Branden Albert.  But in the end, I think they'll end up taking the best cornerback in the draft (yes, even better than DRC).

8. Baltimore Ravens - Dominique Rogers-Cromartie, CB, Tennessee St.
Speaking of DRC, the Ravens will likely pounce on him if Matt Ryan is indeed gone.  I think they do love Ryan but I don't see them making a move up ahead of the Chiefs to snatch him away.

9. Cincinnati Bengals - Keith Rivers, LB, USC
The Bengals need to sure up that defensive line and their linebackers.  Bringing in a guy like Sedrick Ellis or Keith Rivers would certainly does that.  I think, though, they'll take Rivers because he has more game-changing ability than his college team.

10. New Orleans Saints - Sedrick Ellis, DT, USC
It's being reported that the Saints are looking to move up to get Ellis.  But in this scenario, they don't need to.  The Saints get the guy they want to help improve their porous run defense.

The rest of round 1 looks like this:

  1. Buffalo Bills - Devin Thomas, WR, Michigan St. (if anyone is going to trade down, this is the team)
  2. Denver Broncos - Ryan Clady, OT, Boise St.
  3. Carolina Panthers - Branden Albert, OG/OT, Virginia
  4. Chicago Bears - Chris Williams, OT, Vanderbilt
  5. Detroit Lions - Rashard Mendenhall, RB, Illinois
  6. Arizona Cardinals - Aqib Talib, CB, Kansas
  7. Minnesota Vikings - Derrick Harvey, DE, Florida
  8. Houston Texans - Mike Jenkins, CB, South Florida
  9. Philadelphia Eagles - Limas Sweed, WR, Texas
  10. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Jeff Otah, OT, Pitt
  11. Washington Redskins - Phillip Merling, DE, Clemson
  12. Dallas Cowboys - Felix Jones, RB, Arkansas
  13. Pittsbrugh Steelers - Gosder Cherilus, OT, Boston College
  14. Tennessee Titans - Chris Johnson, RB, East Carolina
  15. Seattle Seahawks - Jonathan Stewart, RB, Oregon
  16. Jacksonville Jaguars - Jerod Mayo, LB, Tennessee
  17. San Diego Chargers - Quentin Groves, DE/OLB, Auburn
  18. Dallas Cowboys - Antoine Cason, CB, Arizona
  19. San Francisco 49ers - Kentwan Balmer, DE, North Carolina
  20. Green Bay Packers - Brandon Flowers, CB, Virginia Tech
  21. New York Giants - Kenny Phillips, S, Miami (FL)

And just to add one bonus pick here, I think the Dolphins ,with their 1st second round pick in this particular scenario, will go with either a corner like Penn State's Justin King, Indiana's Tracy Porter, or Auburn's Patrick Lee.  Or they could go linebacker and take Penn State's Dan Connor or Oklahoma's Curtis Lofton, though neither fit the Bill Parcells criteria for size in an inside linebacker.

Thoughts?

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What about
 Steve air McNair retiring?  The Ravens might want to move up.  it is possible they take a qb with thier #1 possibly trading down and grabbing a qb higher in the first.
I like the idea grabbing a cb with 32 I ve been saying all along best player at cb / mlb at 32
What happend to the Killer BEEs

by FinfanT on Apr 18, 2008 8:35 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

There is no way Atlanta passes on Ryan
Thir QB situation is worse than ours, there's no way they pass on him.

by Patssuck456 on Apr 18, 2008 10:19 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

'No way'...
covers a lot of ground. There are plenty of reasons Atlanta might pass on Ryan, here are just two:
  1. Perhaps he doesn't impress them as much as Brohm or Flacco or Henne and they could trade up (say with the Chargers) to get their guy later in round one
  2. If Jake Long slips past the Rams, they would likely take him
It seems the Falcons are in much the same situation Cleveland was in last year. They will have the potential choice of a QB, an OT and a RB. They need them all; who will benefit them most? A lot of scouts and evaluators don't see Ryan as a top ten pick. As another example, there was more hype over Quinn last year; would you take Ryan over Quinn who fell to 22? Just askin'.

by ufourya on Apr 18, 2008 10:40 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

"would you take Ryan..
over Quinn who fell to 22?"

In a heartbeat!

I wanted Quinn last year too, but Ryan will end up being the better QB. He has much better accuracy than Quinn.

That being said, I think Atlanta will pass on Ryan if Dorsey or Jake Long is there. They don't need a RB in the 1st round because they signed Turner from SD.

by dab415217 on Apr 18, 2008 10:49 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ryan more accurate than Quinn?
The numbers disagree with you Dab.

Matt Ryan career comp. % = 59.9
Brady Quinn career comp. % = 60.7

And Quinn, like Ryan, was not playing on a team loaded with future NFL star receivers. So I think the numbers are a valid comparison and they show Quinn is more accurate - at least in the college level and since Ryan hasn't thrown a pass in the NFL, that's all we have.

I think Atlanta could easily pass on Ryan. Remember their GM is a Bellichek/Pioli protege which makes me think a star lineman is more in the works. I'd say most draft people and NFL experts would deem Dorsey a better prospect than Ryan.

by Natalya on Apr 18, 2008 12:12 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Another Atlanta Fact to pass on Ryan
They might be in love with Tebow or Stafford more than they are Matt Ryan...and they might want to wait a little longer on the Vick issue....
Too young to remember 72...not old enough to forget about ever other year since!

by JGray on Apr 18, 2008 11:44 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ugh!
A Tebow reference.  I wonder how over-hyped he'll be this time next year?

by Matty I on Apr 18, 2008 11:49 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A lot
OVERRATED (for the NFL anyway).

by JMFlyer1454 on Apr 18, 2008 12:05 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Just because
every other Florida QB has failed (miserably!) is no reason to think Tebow will too is it? Heh, I think he'll flop too, though someone might accuse me of being biased against Florida.

by Natalya on Apr 18, 2008 12:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I have no bias
being a Dolphin from outside Florida.  I'm saying this as an outside observer who loves College Football, the NFL, and went to Penn State.  Just to clear that up.

by JMFlyer1454 on Apr 18, 2008 3:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Aahhhh...
...the great Tebow debate. Rather than tell you how I think Tim will be a high pick next year (if he comes out), I'll post a link:

http://walterfootball.com/tebow.php

by ufourya on Apr 19, 2008 1:24 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Exactly!
I pray every Sunday in church that he does not end up a PHIN!  I almost hope he ends up a JET!
Too young to remember 72...not old enough to forget about ever other year since!

by JGray on Apr 18, 2008 11:54 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Ireland Slip
I think what he said did show our hand in the draft. The only reason I say that is if they really wanted Jake Long why would they give him a deadline? I just don't believe that Parcells and company are looking at the draft like that. Let's just take the first player that signs a low ball deal? I think they want either Chris Long or Vernon Gholston. I think Jake Long is being used as a ploy. They get Jake to agree to a low deal then they take it to Long or Gholston and say, will you sign for less? Don't get me wrong I like Jake Long alot, and I'll be happy if we take either of the Longs. Parcells loves to take defense early and likes to wait on offensive tackles until later in the draft. With that said who really knows what they're going to do. I just can't imagine that slip was planned. Ireland turned too red and I doubt he's a good actor. Just my 2cents.
Matt

by Matt27 on Apr 18, 2008 12:18 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Watching the conf. call...
it really struck me as a genuine Freudian slip by Ireland.

And maybe it is just part of the endless pre-draft machinations.

FWIW, I'm not sold on Jake Long being 100% our pick. Nor do I think they just take the guy who accepts the least money. While you can make arguments for each of the potential top guys, each team is going to have a clear #1 guy they target. For one, DL & OL are different priorities and each of the available guys brings something different to the table.

We'll see in just over a week.

by Natalya on Apr 18, 2008 12:22 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the only problem with this
~~I think Jake Long is being used as a ploy. They get Jake to agree to a low deal then they take it to Long or Gholston and say, will you sign for less? ~~~

is JLo is the one least likely to sign a low ball offer... If the phins pass on JLo he'll go no later then third, can gholston or CLo say that?? either one of those guys is more likely to sign a low offer since CLo could fall to the raiders on gholston could fall to the pats if things went against them....

by W NY Fins Fan on Apr 18, 2008 8:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ok..So it is a slip....
And he said the pillars on defense are nose tackle and corner back. (I was surprised linebacker wasn't in that, especially a MLB).

And we know he won't take a corner #1. Does that mean Dorsey is the guy? Who is not a traditional 3-4 NT/DT!

Too young to remember 72...not old enough to forget about ever other year since!

by JGray on Apr 18, 2008 12:37 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

because they have a trade in mind
~~If the Dolphins were looking to go defense, then why (with 8 days left until the draft) have the Dolphins only opened up contract talks with one player, an offensive tackle at that? ~~

Since JLo is likely the most coveted player in the draft, the phins figure if they can get him to sign or at least gurantee a framework then the can trade down to (most likely atlanta or maybe KC) knowing that one of their defensive guys will be there.

The reasoning being, since both Atlanta and KC want JLo and don't want to have to over draft say Allen or one of the other OT, and everyone is pretty sure StL will take JLo number 2 they figure, especially atlanta with a ton of extra picks, can move up cheaply but they can't negotiate with JLo since they don't have the #1 pick and they need the phins to do it for them...

by W NY Fins Fan on Apr 18, 2008 8:56 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Taking about..
we getting JLo at #1, them, on hte 32 pick, i would not mind to pick another OT like Chris Williams, we are in need of another premier OT, maybe and ILB, but there is not to much to look for on the pick for ILB, we can also look for a NT or DE. I will go with line on the 32 pick.
GO DOLPHINS!!

Ps CB on the second, second round pick

I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(20 years and counting)

by Aleta on Apr 19, 2008 11:51 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not a chance on Williams
He'll be gone in the top 15.  Not sure why you think we need another premier OT if we take Jake, that would give us 2 very good starting tackles with Long and Carey.  The value at 32 is one of the corners or linebackers falling out of the first round.  There may not be any corners left at 57 that are capable of starting full time at the next level.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 19, 2008 6:00 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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