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What They're Saying...

Now that some of the dust has settled, let's go around and see what some of the south Florida media members are saying about the 0-2 Dolphins.  Surely it won't be pretty.  But it'll be food for thought I suppose.

NOTHING TO BUILD ON
First off, the Herald's Armando Salguero tells us all that he doesn't think this Dolphins team gives us much hope.  Sounds pretty uplifting, huh.  Here's an excerpt:

The Dolphins were so horrible Sunday, sandwiching an embarrassing loss with turnovers on offense and weak arm-tackles on defense, that one has to wonder if the team can recover this season. And that sentence is written with the understanding that 14 games remain after this 37-20 dismantling.

What else to think of a team with proud but aging veterans not playing to the level of their history, and young, unproven players performing as if better days are never coming?

''These all go in the same category,'' a dejected, defeated Taylor said afterward. ``They all [stink].''

He said something more colorful than stink but that word accurately describes the Dolphins right now. They smell of defeat.

They reek on offense and the proof is in their five turnovers, four coming on Trent Green interceptions. The Miami offense was so awful against Dallas it turned the center-quarterback exchange into an adventure.

At one point the team that once turned a fake spike into a glorious victory in the Meadowlands could not actually execute a clock play at home. Green fumbled the toss to the ground and it cost the Dolphins a valuable down when they were trying to drive in a two-minute drill.

Yes, there were moments of clarity against a Dallas defense that yielded 35 points last week. But those rays of sunshine were more often clouded by the turnover statistic that kills games, kills seasons, kills careers.

''No,'' Chris Chambers said when asked if he can imagine any scenario in which Miami can win on a day it commits five turnovers. ``You can't in pee-wee. Not in high school, not in college. There's no way in the world we can recover from that.''

And yet the Dolphins were somehow, inexplicably, in this game at halftime. Sunday marked the second consecutive week the Dolphins were close after one half. And it marked the second week the defense collapsed in the second half.

''Once again we had a breakdown in the second half,'' defensive lineman Vonnie Holliday said. ``We've got to find a way to stop teams in the second half.''

Lovely.  Armando apparently thinks we should all pack it in for this season.  That may be a bit of an overreaction, but he probably isn't too far off.  After the next 4 games, the schedule gets so much tougher.  If they can't win at least 3 of these next four, then I, too, will be ready to pack it in for this year.  But I'm just not ready to yet, no matter how convincing Armando Salguero can sound.

THE QB SITUATION
David Hyde, of the Sun-Sentinel, is starting to wonder when the time will come for rookie QB John Beck to be thrown into the wolves.  Here's some of what he says:

It's a question people will start whispering now, a murmur, like the sound of water rushing through a pipe:

When do we see the rookie quarterback?

Rookie John Beck can throw four interceptions as easily as Green. He can fumble a snap. He can be a major reason, along with some dumb special teams play, why a 13-10 third-quarter lead gets lost on a Sunday in September or one in December.

"Some of the early [interceptions] were maybe just me trying to get a ball in there that was maybe a little tight," Green said. "Then when you're trying to catch up, you force stuff."

He said: "It was frustrating."

He said: "I'll take the blame on all of them."

Across the field was the vision of what the Dolphins want. There was Tony Romo, in his 11th NFL start, beating the Dolphins with his strong arm and young legs. Did you see? Juking Jason Taylor to the ground. Needling a pass to Owens.

"Tony, I thought, made some plays when he needed to make some plays," Green said.

Romo is 27. Beck is 26. But Romo also is in his fifth NFL season. So this leads to the age-old debate, the one that has led to regimes rising or falling, the one about when it's time for a kid quarterback to play.

That was the debate last week in Cleveland over Brady Quinn. ESPN's Ron Jaworski, as respected a quarterback authority as there is, argued loudly for Quinn playing. Sean Salisbury, another former quarterback, argued it would do more harm than good so early in his rookie year.

Do you point to Houston's David Carr being ruined by playing so soon or the Colts' Peyton Manning being educated?

The Dolphins aren't a quarterback away on offense. They don't just have the obvious problems that caused Nick Saban to flee to Alabama. They have added problems now that Brown can't beat out Jesse Chatman, if tight end David Martin is what we've seen, and when no receivers are feared.

Week 2 isn't the time to wonder where the rookies are in the Dolphins lineup. But the time is coming. And, after Sunday, it's coming more quickly than anyone hoped or wanted at quarterback.

It's definitely coming more quickly than anyone had thought or hoped.  I couldn't believe the number of people who are already calling for John Beck to start.  But like Hyde says in the article.  Some point to Peyton Manning and talk about how learning early is beneficial.  Others point to David Carr and how him starting early ruined his career.  I, personally, point to Patrick Ramsey because he had all the physical tools but was getting absolutely killed in Steve Spurrier's offense and with terrible offensive line play.  That's what I fear about Beck.  Now, the Dolphins' line right now is in the "gelling" process.  They're improving ever so slightly.  So let's give them more time to "gel" and improve and then, much later on in the season, we can revisit the idea of starting Beck.  But right now is too early.

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Why Beck should start this season...
1 - What do these 3 have in common...Peyton Manning, Elway, and Marino? 3 HOF's, 3 of the best ever, and all played their rookie seasons. Starting as rookies did not keep them from being the all-time best at their position.

2 - You mention Patrick Ramsey, but correlation does not equal causation. In other words, there's no way to show that Ramsey would have been any better had he sat for a year. We do know this, no QB - rookie or veteran - was successful in Spurrier's gimmick offense in the NFL - and he tried 3-4 guys.

3 - Look at the trends....Rothliesberger, Vince Young, Matt Leinart, Jay Cutler, and others....all picked higher than Beck and all started as rookies, all promising players.

Beck doesn't have to start right now. After the bye week is probably a good place to consider putting him in.

by Natalya on Sep 18, 2007 9:47 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I would agree...
...that they should wait at least until after the bye week.  My point here is that I don't want to see Beck get killed behind a poor line.  So let's wait and hope the line continues to progress before we throw Beck in there.

by Matty I on Sep 18, 2007 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice analogy, Natalya
  I couldn't agree more. Fans are going to have to face this fact: WE ARE IN A REBUILDING PROCESS! THERE'S NO QUICK FIX FOR A ONE YEAR SELF GRATIFICATION RUN!
  John Beck seems to be really connecting with the young players on this team. He can fumble once & throw 4 int's just as well as Trent, and learn, grow & mature in the process. If we're going anywhere next year, he needs time to build chemistry & respect with this lineup.
  I said it before & I'm sticking to it: Let Green play to the Bye week, and turn the future over to John Beck. By then, we should have the line gelling better & God willing have a running game.
  Next year, we go heavy on defense in the draft & the next generation Dolphins will be on their way!

  Just my .02,

  Dave

by davehowardcustom on Sep 18, 2007 10:20 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Beck and The Season
My only fear is putting him behind the line right now and getting killed. Maybe after they play together a few more weeks and show some consistency. The only problem with going heavy on defense in next years draft is we still need a left tackle, tight end, and maybe a receiver if Booker is gone. I agree that we need a corner, nose tackle, and another pass rushing outside linebacker. We'll see.
Matt

by Matt27 on Sep 18, 2007 10:58 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yup
Right on about Beck playing too early.  

As for the draft, it's really too early to think about, though I'd say tackle and cornerback seem line to priorities.

by Matty I on Sep 18, 2007 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

John Beck
I think a lot of these past comparisons are off the mark simply because we're dealing with a 26 year old here and not a 22 year old. I don't fear him losing confidence the way that guys like Couch and Ramsey did.

But while the mental aspect is something I'm less worried about, but I do worry about him getting destroyed out there on a weekly basis with that line. I think we let the Green/Lemon duo handle the first half the season then make the call. Its just too early. We can finally see the once seemingly endless parade of failed quarterbacks coming to an end with this kid. As much as we're all dying to see what he can do in a meaningful game, its just not logical to throw him out there now.

And as far as those other comparisons, he doesn't have a ridiculously quick release like Marino, elusiveness like Elway, or a Pro-Bowler for easy dump off passes like Manning had in Marshall Faulk. He's got a bunch of question marks at every position. I hope Cam and company take the first half of the season to figure out those answers before making a call with John Beck.

by DCDolphin on Sep 18, 2007 11:24 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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