Around the AFC East: Part I



This week, I'm going to handle the "Around the AFC East" segment a little differently, breaking it down to 3 parts so that it isn't as overwhelming. So this is part I of the segment this week. First up, it's the Buffalo Bills and Buffalo Rumblings' own Brian G:
Buffalo Rumblings: Choice D- All of the above. Our offense made a lot of big plays last year and we scored a lot of points in the second half of the season, but we were never able to consistently drive the ball down the field on a consistent basis. A lot of the potential success we'll have this year will be based on how quickly the offense as a whole can gel.
We've got a brand-new offensive line, and they're big/athletic/strong, something that hasn't been seen in Buffalo for quite some time. We have a newly implemented H-Back position, where we'll be using tight ends much like Chris Cooley used to be utilized in Washington. We have depth at wideout, depth at running back (with receiving talent!) and tight ends who should benefit from improved offensive line play. The result is an unprecedented number of players that can run outside and in, make catches short and deep and be effective in the red zone.
To me, it's on Losman. The pieces are in place, but he's going to have to do something he's rarely done at the NFL level: lead. This is his team now - last season proved he has the physical talent, but he needs to be a lot more assertive in the huddle and on the sidelines, and he needs to prove that he can get his team out of tough jams. If he can do that, the sky is the limit for our offense.
My take: Maybe it's my bias against the Bills, but I am just having a hard time buying into all this JP Losman hype. And it isn't just Bills fans. The mainstream media also seems to be all over Losman's junk and I am yet to see why. I think he's an adaquate starting QB. But I can't see him evolve into a top 15 NFL quarterback. But I guess only time will tell.
[editor's note, by Phinatic] Let me clarify top 15 QB. I'm not talking statistically. Stats are misleading. What I mean is that there are at least 15 QBs I'd take a head of Losman if I was picking a QB to be my starter this year. I don't ever think J.P. Losman will EVER become that kind of QB. And, by all means, if you'd like a list of the 15 QBs, I'd be happy to provide it. Bottom line: JP Losman really isn't that good. Period.
Also, be sure to head over to Buffalo Rumblings to see my response to Brian's question.
I'll be back later with the part II of "Around the AFC East."
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Top 15 quarterback
by Brian Galliford on Jun 29, 2007 9:55 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What I mean is....
by Matty I on Jun 29, 2007 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Phinatic & Others...
Please put your top 15 here.
by Natalya on Jun 29, 2007 12:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I sure will
My top 15 in no particular order, or rather, these are QBs I'd take on my team before JP Losman:
- Manning
- Brady
- Brees
- Palmer
- Bulger
- McNabb
- Hasselbeck
- Young
- Rivers
- Leinart
- Cutler
- Favre
- Alex Smith
- Eli Manning
- Delhomme
- Mike Vick
- McNair
These next ones are players that I think will be better than Losman but have little or no experience:
J Russell
B Croyle
M Schaub
J Beck
by Matty I on Jun 29, 2007 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I almost gave you props
I'll give you the first 7 names on that list, Favre and maybe McNair. ALEX SMITH?! Alex... wait, you didn't say... yeah, it does say Alex Smith. Good Lord. If there's any player in the NFL who screams "I'm vastly overrated because I was a #1 pick", it's Alex Freaking Smith.
Can you even count Mike Vick? He's not even a real quarterback in my book... and he hasn't been that successful at this level either, save the one good playoff run. Bark bark.
And the fact that you put Brodie Croyle on that list makes me throw up a little bit in my mouth. That's like, Alex Smith squared.
by Brian Galliford on Jun 29, 2007 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
About Alex Smith.
He's not a great player by any means though but he's not overrated either.
by Patssuck456 on Jun 29, 2007 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Losman...
Not to mention the fact that Lee Evans was so wide open at times last year that I could have made those throws.
Instead of bashing Alex Smith and Mike Vick (I hate Vick, but he's better than Losman), why don't you give me some actual points as to why you think Losman is better then any of those 17 on the list.
Those 4 at the bottom are just guys that I think WILL be better than Losman, not that are already. The top 17 are the ones I feel are simply better than Losman.
As far as Beck goes, we shall see. But there isn't any reason to think Beck won't be at least as effective as Losman is.
by Matty I on Jun 29, 2007 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure!
The second half of last season is where Losman proved his worth. As I mentioned in answering your question, he needs to continue to mature and to become a leader. If he does that, yes, J.P. Losman will be a Top-10 quarterback in the NFL. Bank on it.
by Brian Galliford on Jun 29, 2007 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's no way...
Bank on THAT!
I'd bet nearly anything on it.
by Matty I on Jun 29, 2007 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It would be difficult to bet
I'd love to make that bet with you based on statistical fact.
by Brian Galliford on Jun 29, 2007 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
stats
For example: which line would you rather have?
20/25, 200yds, 2TD, 1Int
or
20/30, 280yds, 2TD, 1Int
I'd go for the 2nd option. But that line has a rating of 104.9, while the above one has a rating of 112.1. I'd say that's a flawed system.
Or how about these 2:
20/30, 280yds, 2TD, 1Int
or
20/32, 220yds, 3TD, 1Int
I don't know about you, but I'd go for the one with more points on the board, which is the 2nd option. But the second option only has a QB rating of 101 while the first option has one of 104.9.
That's a flawed system and THAT is a FACT!!!!
End of story on the QB rating debate!
by Matty I on Jun 29, 2007 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: "End of Story"
I agree with you on the second set of stats - more points is better. But in the first group, I honestly would rather have the first line - it shows a more balanced, efficient offense, which is what Losman is going to lead. He needs to be a game manager.
QB rating is about measuring the EFFECTIVENESS of a quarterback. That's why the system takes into account completion percentage and TD%. I'll agree that it isn't the best way to measure a quarterback's true value to a franchise, but it DOES statistically prove how effective a quarterback is.
In the end, though, the only stat that really matters is wins. Last time I checked, the "overrated" Losman beat your Dolphins twice last year. Methinks he's got your number... :)
by Brian Galliford on Jun 29, 2007 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eh
I can't argue that...yet. I got a feeling this season is going to be different.
Oh, and in one of those games, Losman was terrible but Daunte was even worse.
by Matty I on Jun 30, 2007 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
About your list
Bulger in the top 5? Cutler is not better than Favre and Leinart and Young are not top 10 QBs.
Eli and Mike Vick shouldn't be on that list.
No offense but that list is flawed, Matt.
You have too many young guys to high on the list.
by Patssuck456 on Jun 29, 2007 8:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the list...
and Marc Bulger is, without a doubt, a top 5 QB. Look at the numbers. He's a very good QB.
by Matty I on Jun 29, 2007 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's a good QB
by Patssuck456 on Jun 29, 2007 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fair enough..
by Matty I on Jun 30, 2007 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK here's my list
- Brady
- Manning
- Brees
- Palmer
- McNabb
- Hasselbeck
- Mcnair
- Rothlesburger
- Rivers
- Favre
- Cutler
- Smith
- Bulger
- Romo
- Eli
by Patssuck456 on Jun 30, 2007 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Talking Stats
by bigmac503x on Jun 30, 2007 12:07 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
really?
by Patssuck456 on Jun 30, 2007 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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