Week 11 Open Thread: Dolphins at Eagles


Miami Dolphins (0-9) at Philadelphia Eagles (4-5)
1:00 pm EST, CBS
Lincoln Financial Field
Cloudy, 47 degrees, 80% chance of showers
Line: Eagles -10, Over/Under 40.5
Team Offensive Rankings
Dolphins - 19th total offense (316.2), 11th rush offense (119.4), 19th pass offense (196.8), 19th scoring offense (19.6)
Eagles - 7th total offense (352.9), 14th rush offense (116.1), 11th pass offense (236.8), 14th scoring offense (21)
Team Defensive Rankings
Dolphins - 20th total defense (334.2), 30th rush defense (149.7), 5th pass defense (184.6), 31st scoring defense (28.6)
Eagles - 14th total defense (322.2), 12th rush defense (100.1), 23rd pass defense (222.1), 12th scoring defense (20)
Today's Inactives
Dolphins: LB Zach Thomas, WR Kerry Reed, RB Samkon Gado, DB Jereme Perry, DT Anthony Bryant, DE Rob Ninkovich, and DE Matt Roth
Eagles: RB Tony Hunt, QB Kevin Kolb, DB Marcus Paschal, G Max Jean-Gilles, DT Kimo von Oelhoffen, G Scott Young, DE Jevon Kearse, and DE Montae Reagor
3 Absolute Keys to the Game
1. Contain Brian Westbrook. He's the engine that makes this Eagles' offense go. Without Zach Thomas, the Dolphins must somehow find a way to keep Westbrook in check.
2. No big plays allowed. This Eagles' offense is not a high scoring machine, so don't make things easy for them. Don't allow Philly to pick up easy points on a bomb to Kevin Curtis or a screen pass to Brian Westbrook that goes the distance. Make them work for their yardage. I'd rather lose because the Dolphins allowed Philly to convert tons of 3rd downs rather than losing because the Dolphins gave up two 50+ yard scoring plays for easy points.
3. Make big plays. This Dolphins offense hasn't really made any big plays at all since Ronnie Brown went down. They need to somehow find a way to create the big play. Bomb to Ginn? Return by Ginn? Screen pass that goes the distance? End around? Whatever it takes. This offense is not good enough to consistently move the ball, so big plays are needed to create scoring opportunities.
Community John Beck Prediction: Here's what all of our predictions for Beck averaged out to: 14/24 for 174 yards 1 TD and 1 Int
Prediction: Dolphins stay in the game until the 4th quarter, losing 27-13.
GO DOLPHINS!!!!
**UPDATE**: So the Dolphins lose 17-7. We saw Ted Ginn get the first return TD of his career (that actually counted). John Beck played like a rookie. He made some good throws. He didn't turn it over at all, so that's good. He also would have had his first career TD pass if not for Aaron Halterman dropping the pass. All in all, I'm excited to see Beck's progress week in and week out. Much more coming later tonight. Until then, enjoy the rest of your day!
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This has...
I think Ted Ginn finally makes a big play in this game, just a hunch, maybe on special teams.
I'll just throw out a prediction of 28-17 eagles winning, with a mostly competitive game being put away in the 4th quarter and the fins getting some good special teams play.
by Natalya on Nov 18, 2007 12:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Also inactive, ...
by urbino on Nov 18, 2007 1:10 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
3 & outs
by Matty I on Nov 18, 2007 1:11 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
And the Dolphins get lucky break #1...
by Matty I on Nov 18, 2007 1:18 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Jason Allen!!!!!
by Matty I on Nov 18, 2007 1:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Thats 2
by Spacefish on Nov 18, 2007 1:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Beck to Ginn...
And whoever said Ginn has questionable hands is crazy
by Matty I on Nov 18, 2007 1:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Gamecast
by Spacefish on Nov 18, 2007 1:32 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
wind playing a factor already...
by Matty I on Nov 18, 2007 1:35 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Cloudy, 47 degrees, 80% chance of showers
by Spacefish on Nov 18, 2007 1:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Waaaaaay short
by tenaciouslee on Nov 18, 2007 3:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Beck Looks okay
by Rytackle on Nov 18, 2007 1:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
It was a lateral
He's pretty quick in the pocket.
by Patssuck456 on Nov 18, 2007 1:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
TEDDD GINNNNN
by Rytackle on Nov 18, 2007 1:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Ted Ginn!
Take that back you asshole refs!
by Patssuck456 on Nov 18, 2007 1:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
JASON ALLEN
by Rytackle on Nov 18, 2007 1:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
gamecast
go fins!
by utahlife on Nov 18, 2007 1:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
SoCal fin watch
by Spacefish on Nov 18, 2007 1:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Change at QB?
by Spacefish on Nov 18, 2007 2:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dunno
by Neo on Nov 18, 2007 2:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Aj already doing better huh?
by Spacefish on Nov 18, 2007 2:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Damn it
by Patssuck456 on Nov 18, 2007 2:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Punting?
by Rytackle on Nov 18, 2007 2:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I dont know
by Patssuck456 on Nov 18, 2007 2:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Fields
by desides on Nov 18, 2007 8:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Jesus F'ing christ
by Patssuck456 on Nov 18, 2007 2:14 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Intercepted Again
by Rytackle on Nov 18, 2007 2:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Awesome another pick.
by Neo on Nov 18, 2007 2:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Looks like it doesnt matter
by Enhalo on Nov 18, 2007 2:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Steppin up and out.
by Spacefish on Nov 18, 2007 2:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I like that we're Taking out Shots
by Rytackle on Nov 18, 2007 2:18 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
by Spacefish on Nov 18, 2007 2:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I just started listening to the game...
by Enhalo on Nov 18, 2007 2:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
We hear..
by Spacefish on Nov 18, 2007 2:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The stats aren't a fair way...
by Matty I on Nov 18, 2007 2:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Right
One thing I like his abilty to move around in the pocket.
Cam is calling it safe though.
by Patssuck456 on Nov 18, 2007 2:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
First Booker
by Patssuck456 on Nov 18, 2007 2:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I don't think that was a drop so much...
by Matty I on Nov 18, 2007 2:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
First Half Over
by Rytackle on Nov 18, 2007 2:28 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Well
Nice job of the OL when it comes to blocking for Beck
by Patssuck456 on Nov 18, 2007 2:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
87 yard
D-line still not quit there? D-backs shiny like a new penny!
by Spacefish on Nov 18, 2007 2:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Let's see
by Neo on Nov 18, 2007 2:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well thats
by Neo on Nov 18, 2007 2:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
(crickets chirping)
by Spacefish on Nov 18, 2007 2:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Chatman
by Enhalo on Nov 18, 2007 2:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Boy are the Eagles scared shitless...
by Matty I on Nov 18, 2007 3:06 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Beck
Great play by our defense this game... although this feels a lot like the Buffalo game... good defense - enough to win - but no points by our offense.
by tenaciouslee on Nov 18, 2007 3:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
4th quarter....
by Matty I on Nov 18, 2007 3:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Lets hope
by Spacefish on Nov 18, 2007 3:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Understandable
by Matty I on Nov 18, 2007 3:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well
by Spacefish on Nov 18, 2007 3:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
well good news to you...
by Matty I on Nov 18, 2007 3:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
you're the man matty
by NumberSeven on Nov 18, 2007 8:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He really should've started
by Neo on Nov 18, 2007 3:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nice throw to Booker
by Patssuck456 on Nov 18, 2007 3:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Can we all take a guess
by Neo on Nov 18, 2007 3:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm
by Spacefish on Nov 18, 2007 3:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Question answered
by Spacefish on Nov 18, 2007 3:32 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Hahaha
by Neo on Nov 18, 2007 3:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
4th a goal
by tenaciouslee on Nov 18, 2007 3:35 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
CAM?!?!?!
by tenaciouslee on Nov 18, 2007 3:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Going for it?
by Spacefish on Nov 18, 2007 3:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Halterman already cost Beck..
by Matty I on Nov 18, 2007 3:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Horrible Horrible play call
by Patssuck456 on Nov 18, 2007 3:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
bad play call by Cam...
fooled no one...bad call
by Matty I on Nov 18, 2007 3:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
and again,
by Matty I on Nov 18, 2007 3:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Why not
by Spacefish on Nov 18, 2007 3:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
wow
by fins4o8 on Nov 18, 2007 3:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Thats the game pretty much
by Patssuck456 on Nov 18, 2007 3:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yep
by tenaciouslee on Nov 18, 2007 3:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ya its over
by Neo on Nov 18, 2007 3:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
When life gives you lemons
by Spacefish on Nov 18, 2007 3:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
80 Comments
~Jerry
by Spacefish on Nov 18, 2007 3:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
All I can say is....
by LeftCoastFinFan on Nov 18, 2007 4:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I dont understand that playcall at all
by Patssuck456 on Nov 18, 2007 4:18 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I was hoping for the QB sneak...
on 4th, it wouldn't have been a good call cus they had to go 2 yards...I would have liked to see a roll out give Beck the pass/run option
by Matty I on Nov 18, 2007 4:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agree...
Don't know that the play call was good/bad/indifferent on the goal line - would have been nice had that guy caught the pass on 2nd or 3rd and goal, whichever down it was. (THAT should have been a TD - nice pass from Beck -> folks have to make plays though.)
You can question the play call on 4th down, but if we'd have blocked properly - might not have been an issue because Satele was pulling and was out front of Chatman. (Whether he is the one who blew the block or not, don't know...)
When he stood in the pocket and had time, he looked pretty good - threw a nice ball to Ginn over the middle and also one to Booker. Had the typical jitters, but if you consider where he played, how aggressive they blitz, the weather, etc. To have no TO's with the lousy field position they had all day, I think it was a real good learning experience for him. Tack that on to next week in Pitts...
I think he will be primed for the JETS coming in - hopefully Ricky will be here as well to help out.
by azphinner on Nov 18, 2007 10:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Positives and Negatives on Personnel
-Beck: didn't turn it over, had the jitters, just needs to develop chemistry and timing.
-Ginn: showing more each week. They need to take at least a few deep shots to Ginn per game. He has to be one of the fastest guys in the league.
-Jason Allen: two picks and good tackling
-R Wright: looked pretty good and still not at 100% with that shoulder brace
-Satele, Carey, Hadnot: Solid all year
-Mauia "Juggernaut" leading the way for both Brown and Chatman
-Where is L Booker?
-Although injured this game, Matt Roth has a motor
Upgrades needed:
-Good NT
-Safety: Worrell puts up great effort but just lacks size and speed
-LB: we need more depth and playmakers
-Corner: although they played well today, they can't provide run support
-WR: another speed guy needed
-TE: Martin is not the answer
-DE: JT should only play a 3-4 LB. Teams are running straight at him with great success. JT should only be pass rushing from the outside or dropping back in coverage.
by gophish on Nov 18, 2007 5:45 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Where we miss Ronnie is
by gophish on Nov 18, 2007 5:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

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