Confirmed: Let the John Beck era begin!!
Well we know have heard it straight from the horses mouth: John Beck will be starting on Sunday against the Eagles. I'm sure most of you waited to celebrate until it was official, and it now is. Cam Cameron has confirmed John will start. Cam said that "John has made tremendous progress in the last month" and that "John gives us the chance to win the football game." Cam told his final decision to both players this morning. Also, practice reps have been adjusted so that Beck is getting about 80% of the snaps rather than thr 50/50 split. When asked what will be asked of Beck, Cam said "Number one: take care of the football." He then went on to say that he will just ask John to "play the best football he can play."
Cam was asked at one point about when he decided to start John. Cam replied by saying, "You just sense a guy growing. You've been there and seen it before...you sense when he's getting that command." Cam continued on to say that he "was leaning this direction since the [Buffalo] game was over." Cam was also asked about how much of the offense Beck will be prepared to run. Cam said, "There's nothing mentally that you would have to scale back for John Beck." In fact, John will have the ability to even make audibles at the line of scrimmage. When asked if the offense can do things with John that they couldn't do with Cleo Lemon, Cam simply replied, "I think we'll find out." Could that mean some more deep balls? I certainly hope so.
One interesting thing that was discussed towards the end was the last time we saw Beck take a snap in a game, it was the New Orleans game back in the preseason. John didn't look especially sharp in that game. But Cam quickly defended his quarterback, saying that he's grown a lot since then and brought up the fact that most of the players John was out there with are no longer with the team.
As for the Ricky Willians situation, Cam didn't exactly say much, which was to be expected. He did tell us that he and Ricky will meet for the first time tomorrow. Cam brought up the fact that he feels it's important to do this meeting face to face and "look each other in the eye." I would definitely agree with that. Cam made the point that Ricky doesn't know anything of his or the team's philosophy. I know it sounds lame to us, but to coaches, that's a big deal. Cam said, "I want to see where he is and let him know where we're headed." Man, I wish I could be in on this conversation. I'd love to know where we're headed as well!!
Be sure to vote in the new poll to the right about what you want Cam to do with Ricky.
And as always, your thoughts below on this eventful Wednesday afternoon...
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I am very happy!
by LeftCoastFinFan on
Nov 14, 2007 3:34 PM EST
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I about wet my pants!....
by jtuffy10 on
Nov 14, 2007 3:35 PM EST
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Check this out.....
It basically says Cam's a knob.
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/hashmarks/0-3-821/Dolphins-Waiting-to-Exhale.html
by LeftCoastFinFan on
Nov 14, 2007 3:36 PM EST
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Mosley...
What he is saying is what virtually everyone outside of the alternate universe that is Phinsider, has been saying.
If the dolphins were really trying to win games, and not go straight up into rebuilding mode, why did they trade Chambers? No, as usual Ca-Moron makes no sense.
I'm glad the decision came, finally.
by Natalya on
Nov 14, 2007 3:52 PM EST
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mosely
by NumberSeven on
Nov 14, 2007 3:59 PM EST
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Finally, a breath excitement
Prediction: Ricky does the right things and we end up trading him to the Oakland Raiders during the offseason for a 5th rounder.
by Gliddog on
Nov 14, 2007 3:42 PM EST
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I think they should play Ricky, but
Just poll the fan base, find out what the majority of fans would like to see happen, and then bet that Cam will do the opposite.
I would love to see Ricky play the last few games behind our new O line. Along with Chatman, Beck, and Ginn, it could be really fun to watch.
by LeftCoastFinFan on
Nov 14, 2007 3:51 PM EST
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I'm excited to think that
The dolphins might throw and even complete a pass more than 10 yards downfield
by Natalya on
Nov 14, 2007 3:55 PM EST
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What would you rather have....
or
Limes and Coronas?
:)
by LeftCoastFinFan on
Nov 14, 2007 3:58 PM EST
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How special
In 2008, he'll put up big numbers and in 2009 he'll be signing a new contract with Tony Romo type money.
A great many of you will laugh and think I'm nuts. But I've seen what he can do and how opponents have underestimated him and lost the game. He's smart, accurate, uses risk management and improves every year. I think Philly will be shocked. But what do I know? I'm just a fan.
Let the good time roll.............
by Alpha6 on
Nov 14, 2007 3:57 PM EST
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HAHAHAHA......
:)
(but I hope you're right!)
by LeftCoastFinFan on
Nov 14, 2007 4:00 PM EST
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Actually I think Alpha
by Natalya on
Nov 14, 2007 4:02 PM EST
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So if Alpha's right...
...Does Cam look good for picking Beck and finishing 6-10 his first year?
...or does he look like an idiot for waiting so long to start Beck?
(I already know which way I'd call it.)
by LeftCoastFinFan on
Nov 14, 2007 4:10 PM EST
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NICELY?
a 3-4 finish would nice. even 2-5.
but to finish 6-1 would be mind blowing. that said-- i hope you are right my friend.
by NumberSeven on
Nov 14, 2007 4:02 PM EST
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do jets have keys? :)
by davidsonlaw on
Nov 14, 2007 5:09 PM EST
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ha
by NumberSeven on
Nov 14, 2007 10:58 PM EST
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Feet on the ground, please.
The lone bright spot is the running game. Well that and the fact that we now have an experienced backup QB. :)
A running game isn't nothing. I'm not trying to be Urbino McBuzzkill. I'm just trying keep the expectations reasonable. And 6-10 is not reasonable.
by urbino on
Nov 14, 2007 4:11 PM EST
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I agree! That's not reasonable.
;')
by LeftCoastFinFan on
Nov 14, 2007 4:16 PM EST
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You're not helping, man.
by urbino on
Nov 14, 2007 4:22 PM EST
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any wins
get going. 4 of the last 5 look winnable.
Not that i'd like to see that. after suffering through this mess, I think the franchise deserves the #1 and SF and/or the jets might not win another game this year...
as a result two wins would likely be a disaster.
So in the spirit of Rickey's return & the Christmas spirit, my wish is for the only win to be on Dec 23.
by W NY Fins Fan on
Nov 14, 2007 9:40 PM EST
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Is that the Jets game?
by urbino on
Nov 14, 2007 10:08 PM EST
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dec 23 vs the Pats
by W NY Fins Fan on
Nov 16, 2007 12:21 AM EST
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anyone ....
by YatilGinnJr on
Nov 14, 2007 4:01 PM EST
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It's On, Now
Cam brought up the fact that he feels it's important to do this meeting face to face and "look each other in the eye."
Yeah, the eyes do tend to be a good way to tell when somebody's high.
More seriously, the Dolphins look to be in a no-win situation (no pun intended) with Ricky. I don't see how anybody could possibly justify keeping him, but I don't think we'll be able to get anything for him, either. He's a white elephant.
by urbino on
Nov 14, 2007 4:03 PM EST
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Cam was also asked ...
Now that sounds like a QB ready to play in the NFL!
I think we're going to see some good things from John Beck over the next 7 weeks. Things that might make us feel pretty good about where the QB situation is going.
by Matt27 on
Nov 14, 2007 4:12 PM EST
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You have to play Ricky...
If they just dump him, THAT would be a stupid move. He will be gobbled up by the Pats so quickly.
I could care less what the fins record is from here in, just hoping Beck turns out to be the real-deal. With the running game clicking and the O-Line playing like they are, ANY threat to throw the ball down the field should really open things up... (As opposed to check-down Cleo.)
Personally, I would have started him last week AT HOME versus Buffalo and ease him into things. Nothing like being thrown to the fire. But then again, he was going to have to play there this week anyway, so...
by azphinner on
Nov 14, 2007 4:20 PM EST
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Newsflash...
by Natalya on
Nov 14, 2007 4:30 PM EST
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Good point about the trade deadline...
One good point from CC's news conference is that his decision is that Beck will be the starter from here out.
Lets see if he is the future or not.
by azphinner on
Nov 14, 2007 4:45 PM EST
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Absolutely...
All these past few weeks they were playing Leo Lemon because he supposedly them the best chance to win.
Well, Ricky Williams, at RB, gives the dolphins a better chance to win than just Chatman.
by Natalya on
Nov 14, 2007 4:51 PM EST
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Play him, but for trade value.
Regardless, I think you play him for the same reason you play Beck: not for this year, but for next year. If Ricky can play, he needs to demonstrate it on the field so he's got better trade value this off-season. We need draft picks.
by urbino on
Nov 14, 2007 5:09 PM EST
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Hopefully we...
by Natalya on
Nov 14, 2007 4:24 PM EST
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next home game
by YatilGinnJr on
Nov 14, 2007 4:28 PM EST
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A Beck Question
If Beck's a guy who's won their respect in practice, a guy they see as a leader, then that bodes well for him as a starter. Everybody's level of play could elevate.
I haven't heard anything either way from the players. (If they don't have strong feelings about Beck, of course, that's not necessarily a bad sign. He's a rookie, fer cryin' out loud. Just wonderin' if he's already won them over.)
by urbino on
Nov 14, 2007 4:30 PM EST
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Just win one!!
Good Beck is going to play, now i have an new excuse for the loss and every body of my friends are going to back off. RW Ganya man is back with advengenze and dope. Welcome Ricky, light one up and past it in the locker room cause everyboby in there are depressed. GO DOLPHINS!!
Ps we will do ok!! and YES , we have an excuse to se the game just cause we are fans. YEAH!!!
by Aleta on
Nov 14, 2007 4:31 PM EST
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1st Pick Of The Draft
by Matt27 on
Nov 14, 2007 4:49 PM EST
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Yeah, Matt Dorsey...
by Natalya on
Nov 14, 2007 4:52 PM EST
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Glenn Dorsey, not Matt.
It just gives you more options. And when you have as many needs as the Dolphins do, you need all the options you can get.
by urbino on
Nov 14, 2007 5:06 PM EST
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Yes you are...
The ideal scenario might be for the dolphins to be able to move out of that top slot and pick up some more choices.
Still that's really hard of late because of the huge amount of money a top 10 pick makes, plus what other teams would have to give up for that selection. I've noticed far less movement (wheeling & dealing) in the top 10 picks of the draft the last several years.
by Natalya on
Nov 14, 2007 5:13 PM EST
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True.
by urbino on
Nov 14, 2007 5:18 PM EST
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Closer To Home
by urbino on
Nov 14, 2007 5:28 PM EST
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The league
That deal he pulled really opened eyes, ok, ok, well except for the Dolphins!
Now teams are a lot smarter plus the game has evolved. For one thing it is a pass-first league in addition to other trends emerging like having two RB's or by committee rather than one guy getting a zillion carries (LJ anybody?). Plus these days, most people in the NFL understand that RB is a position with limited longevity.
by Natalya on
Nov 14, 2007 5:43 PM EST
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But....
I'd prefer pick 2, 3, or 4 because the player is more signable and costs drastically less. Of course I'd love to have the #1 pick if we can trade down, but if we get stuck making the pick, I wouldn't be too excited (like some seem to be).
by Matty I on
Nov 14, 2007 5:49 PM EST
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It absolutely hammers...
I don't think Dorsey is a consensus #1 pick because of team's needs. If the Rams get the #1, then they probably go OL to replace Pace. The Raiders would likely pick someone on offense, maybe DeSean Jackson. And I don't know that Dorsey is a fit for the jet's 3-4 system, so maybe they'll take Howie Long's kid instead. So even if Miami doesn't pick first, they could still get Dorsey.
by Natalya on
Nov 14, 2007 5:58 PM EST
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All True, But
I'm not saying I'll be heartbroken if Beck comes in and we win enough games to drop behind STL and SF on the draft board. I'm just saying, even giving your points due weight, I'd still rather have the top pick in '08.
by urbino on
Nov 14, 2007 6:13 PM EST
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But ... But
However, picking first is much better due to the ability to pick first in the rounds 2-7. There is great value in those picks, and teams can easily trade up/down out of them, since they are the top talent spot in the cheaper round.
by W NY Fins Fan on
Nov 14, 2007 9:51 PM EST
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Back to Dorsey
by Matt27 on
Nov 14, 2007 5:00 PM EST
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Good Question
by urbino on
Nov 14, 2007 5:14 PM EST
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Just to give you guys an idea...
Here's some of the better 3-4 NT's height and weight compared to Dorsey.
Dorsey - 6'2 - 292
Traylor - 6'2 - 340
Hampton - 6'1 - 325
Wilfork - 6'2 - 325
Ferguson - 6'3 - 310
J. Williams - 6'3 - 348
As you can see he's pretty close. I'm sure with an NFL program they can get him where they want. Now the only question is can he actually play the "gap" in a 3-4.
by Matt27 on
Nov 14, 2007 5:19 PM EST
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And...
Not everybody can add that much weight and still be productive. I'm not saying Dorsey can't. I'm just saying it's an unknown.
by urbino on
Nov 14, 2007 5:26 PM EST
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Also...
by Matt27 on
Nov 14, 2007 5:32 PM EST
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How about this...
by Natalya on
Nov 14, 2007 6:07 PM EST
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Sounds good, as far as it goes.
by urbino on
Nov 14, 2007 6:15 PM EST
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Ok, here's my....
If that's the scheme you want to play him in then he's probably a better fit at DE in a 3-4 system given his size (less than 300lbs). Bear in mind he's a young guy still so he could be bigger but that's hard to say. Some can pack on a lot of weight others not so, it depends on his frame and build.
In a 4-3, it is a no brainer, he plays at tackle.
by Natalya on
Nov 14, 2007 6:46 PM EST
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Things to watch for
~Jerry
by Spacefish on
Nov 14, 2007 5:43 PM EST
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if you want to watch the game
www.sopcast.com
and then check on saturday they will have the channel links all the nfl games on this website:
the quality isnt awesome, but its def watchable... and better than watching the gamecast on ESPN
by YatilGinnJr on
Nov 14, 2007 6:17 PM EST
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Cant hurt.
by Spacefish on
Nov 14, 2007 6:34 PM EST
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for "How About This" Natalya
Though the names could be changed, Walter has the right positions. As you do too Natalya.
I'm soo excited about the possibilities for the now with Beck and for the draft in the future, that I'm jumping on and off the couch like a little kid.
And btw, everyone seems pretty positive over the news of Beck. Never, ever lose hope. But, like I said, we won't be disappointed with this kid. Here's something to maybe chew over the next games as we watch him play. Who does he more remind you of when he plays good? Current or past QB's included.
PS: Good to be with you all.....
by Alpha6 on
Nov 14, 2007 7:33 PM EST
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We'll see how he does but...
"I think Jake Delhomme is awesome and I think I compare well to him both as a player and as a person. I would love to watch someone like him and learn behind him."
Some people have said Marc Bulger as well.
In either case, Beck strikes me as a better athlete than those guys.
by Natalya on
Nov 14, 2007 8:47 PM EST
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Now things get intresting
by Patssuck456 on
Nov 14, 2007 8:10 PM EST
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Well
Good Luck to you John Beck. I hope you can shine a little hope on a otherwise dismal season.
by Neo on
Nov 14, 2007 11:16 PM EST
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Yeap!!
by Aleta on
Nov 15, 2007 3:13 PM EST
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