"Peyton, Peyton, Peyton!"
Personally I'm not 100% sold on the idea of Manning in Miami. If it were to happen I would not be upset at all but I wouldn't be overly excited about either, at least not until I saw him in live game action. With that said, let us look at some of the positives as well as negatives we would be facing if Peyton were to indeed bring his talents to South Beach.
Some of the positives with signing Manning: Dolphins are automatically will be thrust into the spotlight expect Miami to once again get as much attention as it did with the LeBron and Bosh Signing. Peyton will definitely sell tickets! And not only does Ross want to win NOW he also needs to start seeing his business become prosperous. If Peyton can remain healthy (A VERY BIG RISK) then Dolphins WILL BE contenders, no doubt about it. I know Peyton is not known for his mentoring, but any young QB brought into the organizations will have a chance to work alongside and watch one of the very best to have ever played the game, I’m not saying that this opportunity will make any quarterback great but maybe the RIGHT quarterback can absorb his experience with Peyton and then translate that knowledge to the field when his number is called.
Some of the negatives with signing Manning: NO ONE has any idea if Manning will be healthy enough to ever withstand a regular NFL season again. Peyton’s surgery is a very serious procedure that takes several more surgeries in the future and months of intensive rehabilitation. Manning WILL NOT be the Manning that we have all grown up watching, most of you will remember how difficult it was watching Marino play in his later years after all his surgeries. If Manning comes to Miami we go straight into WIN NOW mentality (not to say that it is totally a bad thing) but remember most teams that go into WIN NOW mode end up paying for it down the stretch (i.e. Redskins, Jets, Oakland) and the teams who play for the future tend to be more successful (i.e. Ravens, Green Bay, Lions).
Nevertheless, I'm really starting to believe it's going to happen. So far Ross is 0-2 on getting what he wants I really don't think Manning will escape his willingness to get him here at all costs. So I got to thinking if we sign Peyton are FA cap spending would probably take a hit, so I started researching some cheaper alternatives to some of the positions I think that we will need to upgrade through FA and Draft.
In my opinion, here is a list of needs in order of the importance: QB, DE, TE, OL, FS
QB- Peyton Manning
I have already established why I think he will be in Miami next year above.
DE- Anthony Spencer
I know a lot of people will hate the idea of more Cowboy retread and I don’t blame you, but Spencer was the Cowboys 1st round pick in 2007 under Parcell. Spencer was originally selected as a defensive end out of college with the hopes of making him an OLB in Parcell’s 3-4 defense. The experiment did not succeed in Dallas and I think the reason is Spencer is not an 3-4 OLB he in fact his better suited to play DE in 4-3 defense (just like Wake would benefit by the same switch). To further back up my claim I have dug up some old scouting reports on Spencer take a look. http://recruiting.scout.com/a.z?s=73&p=8&c=1&nid=2707849
TE – Jacob Tamme
Tamme has spent the last 4 years in Indianapolis alongside no other than Peyton Manning as his QB. Matter of fact, his career best came in 2010 when he caught 67 catches for 631 yards and 4 touchdowns. Now I know he’s not an upgrade from Fasano, in fact, Tamme could be considered more of a double: both men are great route runners, have excellent body control, can separate from LB, and can block. So I say if you can’t upgrade Fasano thru FA why not get two Fasanos. Here is a scouting report on Tamme if you are interested. http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profile_display.cfm?prospect_id=1462
OL- Mike Brisiel
Brisiel is a RG for the Houston Texans, and it is believed that they are highly interested in bringing him back and why wouldn’t they be Houston had the best offensive line in 2011. The main reason I say Ireland will pursue Brisiel is because he is an excellent zone blocking guard and if we are really converting to WCO offense you better have some pretty good zone blocking guards. He is also young at 28 years old Brisiel (if he can stay healthy) still has some very bright days ahead of him and will only get better with age and experience. This would be an absolute great pick up for Miami if they can wrestle him away from Houston that is.
FS- Reggie Nelson
Nelson has already been linked to Miami as one of the Free agents that Ireland will probably be pursuing (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/4164/player?r=1). And why not? Nelson is considered to be a bust after being drafted by Jacksonville in the first round of 2007 draft. However, once he arrived in Cincinnati under the guidance of DB coach (and now Miami’s defensive coordinator) Kevin Coyle, Nelson has finally begun to play up to his potential. In 2011, Nelson recorded 4ints (1 that went for a touchdown), 2 sacks, 2 forced fumbles, and registered 59 tackles. Compared to our current FS Reshad Jones who had 1int, 2 sacks, 0 FF, and 49 tackles I’d say that Nelson is definitely an upgrade. This season I fully expect Jones to be moved to SS (which is his TRUE position) leaving a big hole at FS which I believe will be perfectly suited for the likes of Nelson, plus Clemons is not a bad FS backup either. So with the acquisition of Nelson are FS spot would go from a position of need to a position of strength.
So with this crop of FA the Dolphins are now freed up to address more upgrades thru the draft, which I believe will look like this: RT, DE/OLB, TE, FS, QB, WR, OL.
If I had more time I would try to break down some draft selections but since the night is getting late and I need to get to bed I will leave that to yet another night, thank you for spending the time to read this and feel free to let me know what you think.
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Good idea but we probably won't have the cap room for all those moves
Reggie Nelson is going to get big money and so will Brisiel. Add that to Manning’s 12-15 million and the draft pick’s 5 million there is no way it happens.
I got S + What a Dog's Tail Does.
One of them "Young Guns"
PManning have told that he will take an incentive contract, so...
I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(Quarter of a Century and counting)
so as to keep geting better across the board!
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by wild zion beaver on Feb 8, 2012 12:52 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah I think that he will not cost anywhere near 12-15 mil upfront against the cap. Also since we can carry the money
that we did not spend last year over to this year without it counting against the cap we have an extra 9 million to spend this season. Also thats before we release anyone or restructure anyone. Both of which will probably happen. Seems as if we may be in VERY good shape cap wise.
"Theyas no fawking qwatahback!"-Anonymous Patriots fan at seeing the Wildcat formation for the first time.
So...
what if he does reach those incentives? You still have to plan for those you know. You can’t offer him 7 million with the chance at 15 and go act like you have 8 million to spend because you’re screwed if he does reach those incentives.
I got S + What a Dog's Tail Does.
One of them "Young Guns"
If some of the incentives are things like number of wins, playoff wins, going to the Superbowl, ect....
then you sign him up and figure it out later. There is also a lot more money there then folks think so………..
"Theyas no fawking qwatahback!"-Anonymous Patriots fan at seeing the Wildcat formation for the first time.
We might have the cap room to make it happen
Right now we’re right around $15 million, if YB is cut we get another $4 million, restructure Long, Starks, Fasanos, Marshall contracts maybe add another $4-$8 million, cut a couple of backups add another $2-$3 million and borrow against the cap next year add $3million. That will put us around $28 -$33 million to spend in free agency. With the right contracts Ireland could possibily make this happen.
by kermit the frogger29 on Feb 7, 2012 11:42 PM EST up reply actions
We have 9 mil from last season that we can also spend. We do not have to jump through hoops of fire to get the
cap numbers down and still sign guys.
"Theyas no fawking qwatahback!"-Anonymous Patriots fan at seeing the Wildcat formation for the first time.
that is great news!
now we can afford to resign Henne. I think he has franchise QB written all over him.
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by Phinphinatic on Feb 8, 2012 2:44 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I believe the $9 mil from last season is included in the $15 million in space.
Our cap should be around $129 mil next year with the amount rolled over, but we have around $114 mil in money dedicated to the cap next year.
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Your own statement contradicts itself.
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by texascowpunk on Feb 10, 2012 5:53 PM EST up reply actions
But I didn't...
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If the cap it 129 (I read its actually going to be 123-124) then you subtract the 114 that we are at thats
15 or if you use the numbers I read we are at 9-10 under. Add to that 9+ mil and we have 18-19 mil. Not much difference but that is at least one additional quality player worth of money and thats before any cuts are reworking of contracts begin.
Also if I can tell you that your wrong I receive a special kind of joy.
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by texascowpunk on Feb 10, 2012 6:33 PM EST up reply actions
The cap is not expected to increase much at all and recent projections may have the cap at the same amount.
Thus I’m taking the $120.3 mil cap, which is a popular projection now, and adding our $9 mil into it. The Dolphins have about $114 mil in cap used already, thus creating the $15 mil cap room with the $9 mil already included. You may have read that Miami has around $110 mil in salaries next year (would put Miami near $10 mil under), but that figure may not included dead money.
And I know you enjoy giving me crap anyways! Heck, I’d be happy if I were wrong too because that’d mean Miami would have plenty of room with their salary cap!
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I am sure thats wrong ONLY because your saying it.
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by texascowpunk on Feb 10, 2012 8:47 PM EST up reply actions
LOL
No faith…
The older generation is always so skeptical of the youth…
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Well sure but no one has called you part of the youth for quite some time.
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by texascowpunk on Feb 11, 2012 6:17 AM EST up reply actions
I'm a tweener I guess...
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Um
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by texascowpunk on Feb 11, 2012 8:49 PM EST up reply actions
This comment is not from me, cause i read it be4..
but if Coyle make Nelson a LOT better, imaging what he will do with Jones. No need to bring a FS im my opinion. Nice post tho!
I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(Quarter of a Century and counting)
I agree
but regardless the FS position NEEDS to be addressed, whether thru FA or Draft. I say if you can get a proven FS at a resonable price you’d be crazy not to do it.
by kermit the frogger29 on Feb 7, 2012 11:43 PM EST up reply actions
Why not move wilson to FS, was his postion before the draft,save cap space for other needs
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I wouldn't really say...
…that two Fasanos should be one of our top five priorities.
I agree 2 Fasanos is not top priority
however this year in FA other than Finley there really is no difference maker at the TE position. If we were to sign Manning, Tamme would be a good pick up because he is already familar w/ Peyton’s timing since he played alongside him for 4yrs in Indy. We will draft a TE this year but it will take time to teach him the system, we need a experienced TE to step in a contribute now.
by kermit the frogger29 on Feb 10, 2012 6:41 PM EST up reply actions
here we go.......
Everyone prepare for the setback when Manning retires cause we’re gonna be in the cellar for another decade!
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by Carl Johnson a.k.a CJ on Feb 9, 2012 8:35 PM EST reply actions
I have faith in Philbin
If we get Peyton, I truly believe he is going to set his sights on a QB that he feels he can teach his system to and then mold him to be a contender, just like he helped do with Rogers & Flynn.
by kermit the frogger29 on Feb 10, 2012 6:47 PM EST up reply actions
All I could think when I read the title was
Peyton, Peyton, Peyton can’t you see, sometimes your throws just hypnotize me…
Kermit, You've been bad...
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Something wrong with me?
What in the world would make you ever think that?
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Oh, ok...
Now I understand.
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In all fairness, I did not take the picture.
So I am absolved of any creepiness.
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So I am absolved of any creepiness
No so fast……..
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by texascowpunk on Feb 11, 2012 6:17 AM EST up reply actions
You don't move at a slow pace when you sweep things under the rug.
Let’s carry on. Nothing to see here!
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It irritates me when I have to do it from my phone. So many extra steps and such small buttons
for my large hands.
"Theyas no fawking qwatahback!"-Anonymous Patriots fan at seeing the Wildcat formation for the first time.
by texascowpunk on Feb 11, 2012 8:50 PM EST up reply actions
So strange how everyone has different problems for the same device.
You trying to fat finger the phone, but to Nicky, a simple IPhone is the size of an IPad for her. I hear her stubby little fingers sometimes can’t even get recognized by the phone…
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LOL I would not say my fingers are fat, I just have very large hands.
"Theyas no fawking qwatahback!"-Anonymous Patriots fan at seeing the Wildcat formation for the first time.
by texascowpunk on Feb 12, 2012 8:43 AM EST up reply actions
Now that's funny.
"Theyas no fawking qwatahback!"-Anonymous Patriots fan at seeing the Wildcat formation for the first time.
by texascowpunk on Feb 10, 2012 5:53 PM EST up reply actions
Procreation!
wopper "the king" computer
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by wild zion beaver on Feb 10, 2012 6:07 PM EST up reply actions
Yes.
"Theyas no fawking qwatahback!"-Anonymous Patriots fan at seeing the Wildcat formation for the first time.
by texascowpunk on Feb 10, 2012 6:33 PM EST up reply actions
Wait till you see the one of the beavers.
"Theyas no fawking qwatahback!"-Anonymous Patriots fan at seeing the Wildcat formation for the first time.
by texascowpunk on Feb 10, 2012 6:33 PM EST up reply actions
^^^ This is awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks
by kermit the frogger29 on Feb 10, 2012 6:42 PM EST up reply actions
I just showed this to my wife
and she about fell over and told me to make that my new pic.
by kermit the frogger29 on Feb 10, 2012 6:45 PM EST up reply actions
I vote that you make it your avatar.
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