Jeff Ireland critics aren't going to like to hear this, BUT it appears the Dolphins GM's thrifty ways in 2011 will pay off in 2012. The Dolphins were $9 million under the salary cap in 2011 and NFL teams can carry that figure over to what the 2012 cap will be. That means if the salary cap is $123 million the Dolphins are working with a budget of $131 million. So....Since the Dolphins have a cap figure of $116.636 million they should have $14.364 million to work with right now.
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with a few more moves
Ireland can possibly move the Dolphins into the realm of $18-$20 million in free cap space. Good News!!!
by kermit the frogger29 on Feb 7, 2012 5:34 PM EST reply actions
Restructure and extend Long & YB would save
A few million as well.
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I don't see them restructuring YB contract, unless YB takes a SERIOUS paycut
When Ireland drafted Jones it was because he would one day replace YB at the SS position, I think that one day has come. Bummer because I really like YB and his leadership skills will be sorely missed.
by kermit the frogger29 on Feb 7, 2012 9:12 PM EST up reply actions
Will have to look it up but think he has a 5 million cap hit...... that's a lot.
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I'm pretty sure they don't take a hit at all if they cut him
it’s being widely reported that Bell will most likely be getting cut to save the team $4 million in cap space.
by kermit the frogger29 on Feb 7, 2012 11:46 PM EST up reply actions
I believe you're right
but unless they get someone in FA I think they will resign YB like they did with VC last year.
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Bell needs to go anyways
We need pure coverage safeties that can matchup against Hernandez and Gronk
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Feb 8, 2012 2:26 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Great point.
If you remember back to the Cowboys vs. Pats game in Week 6 at Gillette, The Cowboys had the Patriots dead in the water. Rob Ryan was running coverage scheme all day and getting pressure with the base 3-4 front (as well stopping the run) because the Patriots couldn’t match up against Kenyon Coleman, Jay Ratliff and Marcus Spears inside, nor with the exterior rush due to their injuries.
What ended up losing the Cowboys the game though was that they likewise couldnt match up with the Pats Tight Ends. On the last drive, the Cowboys continued to double Gronk with bracket coverage ad chip techniques as well as come down on Welker in press and in-out coverage. But, they had to match up in man on Hernandez and they couldn’t do it. They tried Brooking at the beginning of the drive, they couldn’t use their safeties because of their other coverages and tried to switch to Orlando Scandrick as the Pats crossed midfield.
No answer and the Pats ended up scoring the game winning touchdown with :27 seconds left. They lost a game they should of won because they couldn’t match up in man when they had to on Hernandez.
Our personnel needs to be more compatible with the Patriots.
2008 AFC EAST Champions.
by civwarbuff on Feb 8, 2012 12:25 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
They can restructure his contract which I assume they will try and do.
"Theyas no fawking qwatahback!"-Anonymous Patriots fan at seeing the Wildcat formation for the first time.
That would pay Manning through the preseason, right?
I never got a prize for doing what was expected of me.
I hope not...
RG3
Miami's Superstars: Reggie Bush, Brandon Marshall, Jake Long, Mike Pouncey, Karlos Dansby, Cameron Wake, Vontae Davis and Sean Smith (just wait), Lebron James, Dwyane Wade, Chris Bosh, Mike Stanton, Gaby Sanchez, Hanley Ramirez, Josh Johnson, Heath Bell, Mark Buehrle, Jose Reyes, Tomas Fleischmann, Stephen Weiss, Jose Theodore, and Chris Versteeg. :)
Hopefully it would be enough not only to bring
Peyton to town but also Robert Mathis.
by kermit the frogger29 on Feb 7, 2012 9:13 PM EST up reply actions
Considering it has been widely reported that Ross put the stop on the Orton trade and contract, how does Ireland get the credit for that decision?
He (Ross) wants his football people to find a quarterback that can compete either immediately or eventually on the same level as the NFL’s elite quarterbacks.
Ross is apparently so committed to doing this that the source confirmed it was the owner himself who told Jeff Ireland to shut down the attempt to add Kyle Orton in the summer when the general manager was still trying to trade for the Denver quarterback.
http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/10/17/2457616/miami-dolphins-a-franchise-in.html
"It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing." MACBETH
"Walter, I love you, but sooner or later, you're going to have to face the fact you're a goddamn moron." THE DUDE (The Big Lebowski)
Can
NY Jets = NFL's Chicago Cubs
There's a fine line between hopeful and desperate. Just look @ Jets fans.
by TheFinReaper on Feb 7, 2012 9:05 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I wouldn't be so sure about the RG3 thing
mando’s source also said:
"We can’t afford to take that gamble," the source said. "The guy we hire to run this team won’t be learning on the job."
by kermit the frogger29 on Feb 7, 2012 9:08 PM EST up reply actions
Can't stop hating on Ireland can you?
Go re-read what Omar said. Now tell where he says the name Orton. It isn’t there. You’re acting like Ireland’s only job last offseason was to sign Orton and Ross stopped him so Ross gets all the credit and Ireland did nothing.
Did Ireland go sign a top name RB (Like many wanted him to do)? No he worked a trade for a former Heisman winner (beats the hell out of trading an entire draft for one) that cost us a 6th round swap and a special teamer.
Did Ireland Re-Sign Ronnie Brown for big $$? No, he let him go and replaced him with a RB that had a future in Miami.
Now, he also didn’t sign any of the big name TEs which saved us money but didn’t upgrade the team.
All of these have one thing in common, Ireland saved money against the cap which can now be used for 2012. This is the point Omar made. Did you somehow miss that or did you not read past
Jeff Ireland critics aren’t going to like to hear this?
NY Jets = NFL's Chicago Cubs
There's a fine line between hopeful and desperate. Just look @ Jets fans.
by TheFinReaper on Feb 7, 2012 9:14 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Where do you think the $9M amount came from? It came from not trading for Orton. That was Ross' decision.
That’s all I’m saying. If that trade goes through, there is no $9M that can be added to this years cap.
As far as Armando being the guy who wrote the article, like it or not, he is one of the guys who has the most contacts within the Miami organization.
Has anyone from the Dolphins denied this report? It was picked up and reported by NFL.com, ESPN, CBSSports, etc. If it was so wrong, then why no denial?
"It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing." MACBETH
"Walter, I love you, but sooner or later, you're going to have to face the fact you're a goddamn moron." THE DUDE (The Big Lebowski)
Where do you think the $9M amount came from? It came from not trading for Orton. That was Ross’ decision.
The $9 million came from not overpaying for talent at all the positions. How about DeAngelo Williams? Many wanted us to sign him but he cost Carolina more against the cap from his signing bonus alone ($3.2 million) than Reggie Bush cost us all together. As for Orton, one of the things holding up the deal was the new deal Orton would need and what it would entail. This occurred before Ross pulled the plug. Just because Ross said no to 1 deal, he gets the credit for the $9 million? Ireland didn’t burn the $9 million when he could so he deserves credit there.
The 9 mil also comes from not signing Soliai to a long term deal. Is this a positive or a negative? That’s up to the individual but the point is that Ireland had several ways of burning that $9 million besides the Orton deal and to disregard them simply because Ross pulled the plug on one deal is absurd.
I know you aren’t talking to me but I don’t think your argument is invalidated by using an Armando quote. I think Armando is wrong as often as he is right (Likely more often) but I have no reason to disbelieve the story. I do however, think that if Ireland was so gung ho that it took Ross saying no to kill the deal, Orton would have been signed before Ross got around to saying no.
NY Jets = NFL's Chicago Cubs
There's a fine line between hopeful and desperate. Just look @ Jets fans.
by TheFinReaper on Feb 8, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I think one of the reasons that the Dolphins didn't pursue some of the higher priced talent, like DeAngelo Williams, was because most of the available cap room was to be allocated to the QB position.
That’s just my opinion.
I also think the hold up on the trade for Orton was Orton’s salary not the draft picks or players in the trade.
At some point soon, the Dolphins are going to have to pay a QB NFL starter money, and that is in the $9M – $12M range. That is what Flynn is going to get (minimum). That is what Manning is going to get (minimum). If the Phins want to have an elite QB, those numbers climb to the $14M-$16M range.
The fact that the Dolphins, whether it was Ireland’s or Ross’ decision (I think it was Ross’ decision), not to pay Orton that amount (his cap hit last year was $8.88M) proves that they probably made the right choice.
"It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing." MACBETH
"Walter, I love you, but sooner or later, you're going to have to face the fact you're a goddamn moron." THE DUDE (The Big Lebowski)
I am going to partially agree with Ct here Finreaper.
If you look at the sequence of transactions it is readily apparant that this FO was allocating cap space for a move at Quarterback.
However I disagree with his second point. No matter my feelings on Henne, or yours, or anyone elses, the fact is that this management (and coaching staff) did not have faith in his abilities. They showed it over and over and over again. If an organization has misgivings about their Quarterback, and don’t believe in him, they are obligated to make a move. That this management did not is as poignant and powerful an indictment as any. That Ireland allowed the team to enter the season with out having dealt with a problem he knew existed, and with a player he did not have faith in, is letting your team down as a General Manager and harming it’s ability to win games.
If Ross intervened (as many believe he did and has been reported) and restricted Ireland from making a move he knew had to be made, whatever move at Quarterback that was, Orton or otherwise than Ireland should have resigned IMO.
2008 AFC EAST Champions.
And the campaign continues.........
"Theyas no fawking qwatahback!"-Anonymous Patriots fan at seeing the Wildcat formation for the first time.
lol
A woman is an occasional pleasure but a cigar is always a smoke.
- Groucho Marx
Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. -H.L. Mencken.
"Never miss an opportunity to make others happy, even if you have to leave them alone in order to do it."
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
You know more of the same stuff on a different day.
"Theyas no fawking qwatahback!"-Anonymous Patriots fan at seeing the Wildcat formation for the first time.
no doubt...
tired of it.
a wise man once said..."My cats breath smells like cat food"
My love for THE MIAMI DOLPHINS is unconditional...period!
Win for pride, Win for us fans!
God I hope we can knock the Jets out of the playoffs, I couldn't imagine despising a team and fan base more.
Go Dolphins!
Geez, I hope you didn't delete because of me.
I was just kidding…
A woman is an occasional pleasure but a cigar is always a smoke.
- Groucho Marx
Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. -H.L. Mencken.
"Never miss an opportunity to make others happy, even if you have to leave them alone in order to do it."
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
delete what?
i like jokes… at least the funny ones.
a wise man once said..."My cats breath smells like cat food"
My love for THE MIAMI DOLPHINS is unconditional...period!
Win for pride, Win for us fans!
God I hope we can knock the Jets out of the playoffs, I couldn't imagine despising a team and fan base more.
Go Dolphins!
Your whiney fanshot about the servers?
lol
A woman is an occasional pleasure but a cigar is always a smoke.
- Groucho Marx
Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. -H.L. Mencken.
"Never miss an opportunity to make others happy, even if you have to leave them alone in order to do it."
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
my real concern is that i cant see recent fanposts anymore.
can you?
a wise man once said..."My cats breath smells like cat food"
My love for THE MIAMI DOLPHINS is unconditional...period!
Win for pride, Win for us fans!
God I hope we can knock the Jets out of the playoffs, I couldn't imagine despising a team and fan base more.
Go Dolphins!
Click the top of the page where it says fan posts.
"Theyas no fawking qwatahback!"-Anonymous Patriots fan at seeing the Wildcat formation for the first time.
its not on the FP anymore?
a wise man once said..."My cats breath smells like cat food"
My love for THE MIAMI DOLPHINS is unconditional...period!
Win for pride, Win for us fans!
God I hope we can knock the Jets out of the playoffs, I couldn't imagine despising a team and fan base more.
Go Dolphins!
It is. Just a glitch that they are working out.
"Theyas no fawking qwatahback!"-Anonymous Patriots fan at seeing the Wildcat formation for the first time.
Shit.. now Fr8's whiney post is gone too
wtf??
A woman is an occasional pleasure but a cigar is always a smoke.
- Groucho Marx
Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. -H.L. Mencken.
"Never miss an opportunity to make others happy, even if you have to leave them alone in order to do it."
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
whiney....
thatttssss nott fairrr…. hhhoooowwww cannnnn yyyoouuu ssaaayyyyy thaaatttt…. i’m not going to post for a month because my feelings are hurt now….
You cant see me, but believe me… I am pouting and sighing loudly.
a wise man once said..."My cats breath smells like cat food"
My love for THE MIAMI DOLPHINS is unconditional...period!
Win for pride, Win for us fans!
God I hope we can knock the Jets out of the playoffs, I couldn't imagine despising a team and fan base more.
Go Dolphins!
(in a little boys voice) I's sorry (hands clasped behind, looks at feet, kicks a little dirt)
A woman is an occasional pleasure but a cigar is always a smoke.
- Groucho Marx
Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. -H.L. Mencken.
"Never miss an opportunity to make others happy, even if you have to leave them alone in order to do it."
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
sokay, dodgeball?
a wise man once said..."My cats breath smells like cat food"
My love for THE MIAMI DOLPHINS is unconditional...period!
Win for pride, Win for us fans!
God I hope we can knock the Jets out of the playoffs, I couldn't imagine despising a team and fan base more.
Go Dolphins!
Yeah! I'm up first tho...
A woman is an occasional pleasure but a cigar is always a smoke.
- Groucho Marx
Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. -H.L. Mencken.
"Never miss an opportunity to make others happy, even if you have to leave them alone in order to do it."
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
You quoted Armando
You lose this argument just on that alone.
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by Agent J 78 on Feb 7, 2012 11:41 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
LOL Quoting Mando=your point is now invalid
"Theyas no fawking qwatahback!"-Anonymous Patriots fan at seeing the Wildcat formation for the first time.
Might as well reached into the toilet after a dump and smeared across the screen....
A woman is an occasional pleasure but a cigar is always a smoke.
- Groucho Marx
Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. -H.L. Mencken.
"Never miss an opportunity to make others happy, even if you have to leave them alone in order to do it."
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
have you tried this?
a wise man once said..."My cats breath smells like cat food"
My love for THE MIAMI DOLPHINS is unconditional...period!
Win for pride, Win for us fans!
God I hope we can knock the Jets out of the playoffs, I couldn't imagine despising a team and fan base more.
Go Dolphins!
Its how he gets his best ideas!
"Theyas no fawking qwatahback!"-Anonymous Patriots fan at seeing the Wildcat formation for the first time.
Yes... most of them *do* come out of my butt... lol
Silly man
A woman is an occasional pleasure but a cigar is always a smoke.
- Groucho Marx
Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. -H.L. Mencken.
"Never miss an opportunity to make others happy, even if you have to leave them alone in order to do it."
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
i try to filter
mine thru my underwear first.
"I likem me some UDFAs"
You can never get enough Bush!
(in Cleveland's voice) Oh that's nasty...
A woman is an occasional pleasure but a cigar is always a smoke.
- Groucho Marx
Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. -H.L. Mencken.
"Never miss an opportunity to make others happy, even if you have to leave them alone in order to do it."
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
Armando 'my imaginary friends are my sources' Salguero = "widely reported" ?
Funny stuff !
by haildanhenningnow on Feb 8, 2012 2:35 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, like he's "widely" considered... lol
A woman is an occasional pleasure but a cigar is always a smoke.
- Groucho Marx
Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. -H.L. Mencken.
"Never miss an opportunity to make others happy, even if you have to leave them alone in order to do it."
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
by Alpha6 on Feb 8, 2012 12:01 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
On second thought Miami could possibly be sitting at around $28 million in free cap space!
As of now he are somewhere around $15 million if you play the cards right-
Cut YB- add $4 million
Restructure Long, Stark, Fasano deals- add $4 million (conservative number)
Cut some back-ups – add $2 million
Borrow against next years cap – add $3 million
that’s 15+4+4+2+3= 28
take out 5 for rookie salaries leaves you at 23, possibly take out another 3 this year for new Wake contract (I know a lot would say that this is too low but they can load his contract up on the back end) this leaves you at 20 million. Now if we do get Peyton expect him to come in around 10 million, so that would leave us about 10 million to spend on other free agents.
by kermit the frogger29 on Feb 7, 2012 11:33 PM EST reply actions
Your still missing the 9 mil not spent from last season which can be spent during this season.
"Theyas no fawking qwatahback!"-Anonymous Patriots fan at seeing the Wildcat formation for the first time.
When the new FO starts evaluating the talent we have
and the talent they want I kinda expect some more cuts, some we may not agree with. so just 23 mil might go higher in order to get the guys this FO wants. Lets get the party started cause its been only 3 days and im gettin bored without my football.
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Wow, if we can manage the cap properly, we may end up with 35 million to work with
Take out about 8 mill for peyton or flynn, 6 mill for rookies and 3 mill for resignings. That should leave us with 18 mill for other signings.
RGIII or flynn, whichever one helps us win
Leader of the "draft Jayron Hosley in the 2nd" bandwagon
Grand Cardinal of the first holy church of brandstater
But keep in mind that we need between 9 and 10 mil to sign other FA's that are currently on the team.
"Theyas no fawking qwatahback!"-Anonymous Patriots fan at seeing the Wildcat formation for the first time.
wait and see
a wise man once said..."My cats breath smells like cat food"
My love for THE MIAMI DOLPHINS is unconditional...period!
Win for pride, Win for us fans!
God I hope we can knock the Jets out of the playoffs, I couldn't imagine despising a team and fan base more.
Go Dolphins!
Because you know more about him then the new head coach? I mean if you do then most certainly go down
there and attempt to get an audience with Ross and convince him otherwise.
"Theyas no fawking qwatahback!"-Anonymous Patriots fan at seeing the Wildcat formation for the first time.
Talk is he will be looking for a Kolb like deal
and the consensus is he will sign for 8-10 million a year for 5 or 6 years.
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I can't see it
Kolb was way over paid and we’d be doing the same thing, over paying for an unproven commodity.
"I likem me some UDFAs"
You can never get enough Bush!
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