Is Ricky Williams a Hall of Fame candidate?
Chris Jones, a writer for ESPN The Magazine, recently wrote an article making a case for Ricky Williams being enshrined into the NFL Hall of Fame. Williams has 10,009 career rushing yards. He has rushed for 1,000 or more yards in 5 of 11 seasons and led the NFL in rushing in 2003 with the Miami Dolphins. His numbers are similar to other solid RBs like Clinton Portis, Shaun Alexander, and even Stephen Davis to a lesser extent. He currently ranks 26th in career rushing.
Williams also carries controversy with his suspensions for marijuana use and his abrupt retirement prior to the 2004 season. Williams was an enigma with his social anxiety disorder and created controversy with his NFL draft picture with Mike Ditka when he was dressed in a wedding gown. He even conducted interviews while wearing his helmet with the tinted visor.
It is hard to argue that Williams deserves to be in the Hall of Fame based on his play because his career wasn't exceptional. The issues with the abrupt retirement and the suspensions likely won't help his cause. Those reasons aren't why Jones thinks Williams should be in the Hall of Fame however.
Jones argues Williams should be in the Hall of Fame simply because he survived football, not because he played it exceptionally well. Because Williams was only physically built, but didn't have the typical persona or passion of other NFL players, Williams stood out among the rest because of his personality. Williams may have been physically superior to many players in the NFL, but his path was undoubtedly harder because of his depression and anxiety. Does the fact that Williams overcame such issues give him an advantage when it comes to who is inducted in the Hall of Fame? If we were to open that can of worms, where would we stop when it comes to inducting players though? By going down this path, you could have people supporting players for induction simply because they were high character guys or were involved with many charities. Likewise, we could look at withholding people from the Hall of Fame because of issues, whether it was NFL suspensions or legal issues.
I like Williams and I never criticized him for retiring early, but I was only disappointed at the timing of his retirement when the season was about to start. I had issues with his drug suspensions, but I have long forgiven him for the timing of his retirement and his suspensions. I have a great amount of respect for the way he came back to the NFL and with him being so open about his personal life. But as much as I appreciate Williams, I just can't bring myself to support him for the Hall of Fame. I simply go by what he has done on the field. I don't want to open that can of worms by inducting people for what they endured off the field. It's a dangerous path to go down. I know Jones has a unique understanding and appreciation for Williams as he traveled with him to Australia and got to see his life firsthand, but I think he may be letting his personal feelings about Williams cloud his judgement in whether he believes Williams is a Hall of Fame player. Williams is one of my favorite players and I will always have a great appreciation for what he has done, but it's just hard for me to support him for enshrinement. I just wish his career could've had just a bit more luster so I could make an argument as to why he should be in the Hall of Fame.
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it pains me to say he shouldn't be in the HoF
but personally, I definitely feel he was a Hall of Fame talent. even as he got older you could tell he’s just a smart football player with great vision. for someone who didn’t truly start watching football until the late 90’s, Ricky is my favorite Dolphin. I felt the same about his retirement; not upset he did it, just the timing. but really, I think that triggered a chain reaction that needed to happen as his retirement clearly showed how flawed the philosophy behind that team was and how over-reliant Wannstache was on Ricky. I’d walk away too if I was being run into the ground.
honestly, after watching the ESPN film, I grew an even greater fondness for him. he may not have shown the consistency throughout his career as far as being on the field, but his talent is HoF caliber and his narrative is the stuff of legends.
Run Ricky Run
by BULLieving in Miami on Feb 28, 2012 1:21 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I agree Ricky had Hall of Fame talent.
He just didn’t have Hall of Fame production. Maybe if he wouldn’t have retired and/or been suspended for marijuana, he could’ve had the production. Would of and could of doesn’t apply though when it comes to being inducted in the HoF. His 30 for 30 episode on ESPN was one of my favorite episodes of the show and I loved the dude even more after the episode, but his career was just wasn’t on par for the Hall of Fame.
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I love Ricky
but this is as good as you can put it Finhead..
Ricky had Hall of Fame talent. He just didn’t have Hall of Fame production.
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Tom Brandstater- more TD's than completions. Last person to tell him that's not possible, well, nobody has seen him since.
If Cris Carter isnt in the HOF at this point, Ricky shouldn't even be considered.
The guy wasted his best days of football doing other things.
by mjams on Feb 28, 2012 1:22 PM EST via mobile reply actions
The fact Cris Carter isn't in the HOF
only proves that the morons who currently vote are clueless and mostly choose the guys they “like” rather than the ones who deserve it.
He has courage and poise. In my opinion, most of all, he has that quality you can't define. Call it magic. … I honestly give this guy a chance to be better than his brother." - Ernie Accorsi scouting report of Eli Manning
Most believe the reason Chris Carter isn't in the HoF is because they don't believe he was ever the best WR on the team.
He has Jake Reed and Randy Moss for that. Not sure I agree with that, but the career numbers aren’t what is holding Carter back. I do think Carter will make it into Canton one day, but I don’t think it’ll happen within the next few years.
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Most in the media try and make that claim...
to protect the idiots voting. Cris Carter was great before Moss was there and he was always better than Reed. He wasn’t friendly with the media and wasn’t a “good” guy in the early stages of his career so they don’t like him. Most of the guys that vote NEVER played a snap of football and use their voice as journalists to beat guys down because they’re jealous geeks who never got over being bullied by football players in high school. The whole process is a flat out JOKE.
He has courage and poise. In my opinion, most of all, he has that quality you can't define. Call it magic. … I honestly give this guy a chance to be better than his brother." - Ernie Accorsi scouting report of Eli Manning
no
i love ricky, but no
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Ugh
Well, since everything else in the world today is a popularity contest wtf not, right?
Twenty-sixth all time rushing leader I do not think qualifies you for the H.O,F,
I myself am an avid Ricky and Ronnie fan.
I always felt if we could just get a QB we had a shot at a superbowl.
Kind of odd and ironic how after Marino goes we have the perfect running attack but no QB.
Look, neither Ricky nor Ronnie are hall of fame worthy.
Maybe, if Ricky stayed in for another four years he could get the numbers.
If he was starting, and played equally as well as he did in 02’ with the phins.
In his few carries with Baltimore he was doing great averaging 4.1 a carry but with Ray Rice, yeah not much work for Ricky.
So, sorry Ricky Miami will always remember you and Ronnie in the back field but you sadly should not be enshrined in Canton, Ohio.
But you and Ronnie should definitely be in the ring at Dolphins stadium undoubtebly.
We had the perfect ground game and defense for the first time right after Marino retired. Sad...
I waver on the issue whether Williams should be in Miami’s Ring of Honor. I tend to lean away from supporting him on that. I certainly don’t think Ronnie should be there. There are many more deserving candidates such as Tim Ruddy, Daryl Gardner, Tim Bowens, and others that would be more deserving than Ronnie. I loved Brown because of his abilities, but like Williams, he just didn’t do enough.
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Zack Thomas, Jason Taylor, Richmond Webb, Bob Kuechenberg, Chris Carter and
probably even Manny Fernandez all belong in the HOF before Ricky Williams
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Thomas doesn't belong Talyor will be a HOF as soon as he's eligible...
He has courage and poise. In my opinion, most of all, he has that quality you can't define. Call it magic. … I honestly give this guy a chance to be better than his brother." - Ernie Accorsi scouting report of Eli Manning
True.
I’m surprised those dudes aren’t up there already!
I think you could put Ronnie and Ricky up there as a pair….kinid of odd but that would work for me.
I even think Sam Madison could go up before those Ronnie and Ricky.
O.J. McDuffie as well if he isn’t already.
Been awhile since I been to the stadium, it was still Joe Robbie last I went. :/
If he had stayed clean and had a 15 season career, yes
But unless he comes out of retirement and has 3 hundred yard seasons, I’m standing firm
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If I don't think he is worthy of the Fins ROH
I definitely don’t think he is worthy of the HoF.
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Ring of Honor? debatable
Hall of Fame? No
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I love Ricky, easily my favorite Dolphin from the past 10 years
But no, he had the talent, but he didn’t have that drive, but he should go into the ROH
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I agree with most here. Love the guy and its still a NO from me.
"Theyas no fawking qwatahback!"-Anonymous Patriots fan at seeing the Wildcat formation for the first time.
As Long as there's room in HOF for OJ
There’s room for Ricky. Marijuana isn’t a performance enhancing drug. He has the production, he should be in…
Yeah but OJ would have never gotten in after the fact. Just how it goes.
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by texascowpunk on Feb 28, 2012 9:23 PM EST up reply actions
That, and OJ played an entire career
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Also OJ had HOF numbers.
I mean he ran for 2,000 yards, in a 14 game season
We all know what he did after football, but his numbers put him in there
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Yes but he was a HOF before he did anything that anyone thought was negative. Before that day everyone
loved OJ.
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by texascowpunk on Feb 29, 2012 2:50 PM EST up reply actions
He has the production of many solid RBs.
Should Priest Holmes, Edge, Clinton Portis, and Shaun Alexander also get in? Ricky’s numbers don’t stand out.
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Sorry Ricky, but HoF worthy you are not.
If he had not wasted his talent, and been plagued with personal issues. He very likely would have finished his career in the top 5 in probably every rushing category. It took Curtis Martin two ballots, Jerome Bettis has gotten passed over twice, Corey Dillon, Rickey Watters, Eddie George, and Otis Anderson haven’t even been considered. Yet they all have rushed for more yards and more TDs than Ricky.
I also gotta agree with Neo. I don’t think he’s ROH worthy either. Cause while I don’t take off the field issues into consideration for HoF, I think they do play a part in the ROH worthiness.
I used to think I had a drinking problem.
So I stopped thinking.
Ricky Williams
It’s unfortunate that Ricky’s off field antics cost him so much. Those years he lost in NFL cost him running records where you wouldn’t be asking these questions. Not exactly the same, but similiar is Pete Rose. Even though he isn’t going to make it who’s going to forget him?
Jay Co-Wallis
He'll be forgotten one day.
Just how like many forget players like Stephen Davis, Priest Holmes, and Jamal Lewis. Rose was a Hall of Fame talent with Hall of Fame numbers, but a giant scandal kept him out. Ricky Williams was a Hall of Fame talent without Hall of Fame numbers and lacked a scandal that could match Rose. Of course the scandal wouldn’t help Ricky get in the HoF, but it’d help people remember him. You can’t compare the two because Rose had everything to make the HoF, but the scandal prevented it. Ricky won’t get in even if his record was squeaky clean.
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