Miami Dolphins GM Jeff Ireland: QB Doesn't Have to Be Long-Term
by Kevin Nogle on Feb 23, 2012 10:07 PM EST
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At the NFL Scouting Combine today, both the Miami Dolphins' general manager Jeff Ireland and head coach Joe Philbin spoke to the media. During Ireland's media availability, he briefly spoke about the Dolphins' search for a new quarterback.
"I don't think it has to be a long-term solution," Ireland stated. "I think you can look at a short-term solution. Obviously, you'd like a long-term solution. Or you can try to get both. You've got to try to help this team win today and look to the future."
With Dolphins owner Stephen Ross' infatuation with Indianapolis Colts' quarterback Peyton Manning, this is the closest Ireland has come to talking about the 4-time league MVP. Team executives are not allowed to comment on players currently under contract with another team.
Manning is due a $28 million roster bonus on March 8, five days before the start of the new league year. With trading not authorized until March 13, and the Colts' expected to draft Stanford Cardinal Andrew Luck with the first overall pick in April, the team is expected to release Manning sometime in the next couple of weeks.
Manning would be free to sign with any team in the league as soon as he is released, not having to wait for the free agency period to begin.
Ireland stated that he and Philbin have talked about quarterbacks "almost on a daily basis," especially for last few days, and that they are trying to figure out a lot of things.
The NFL Combine officially started yesterday and runs through next Tuesday.
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Manning and Tannehill
just like farve and rodger for Philbin, food for though
by GeorgeJoeP54 on Feb 23, 2012 10:10 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Rodgers , damn auto correct
by GeorgeJoeP54 on Feb 23, 2012 10:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Manning Tannehill is excellent but
we would probably need to take him in the fist round which passing on a top RG or pass rusher.
by MassFinFan65 on Feb 24, 2012 7:20 AM EST up reply actions
From Ireland?
NEVER!
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Agreed. Read nothing in to this statement other then maybe the opposite.
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by texascowpunk on Feb 25, 2012 3:50 PM EST up reply actions
You know I would think that this is smokescreen, but
what if the smokescreen is a smokescreem? Think about it. Everyone is going to assume that this is a smokescreen. Almost always when a team comes right out and says something it’s a smokescreen. But what if this isn’t and that’s what the Dolphins want teams to think. They want teams to think that they’re putting up a smokescreen when actually they are serious and this is their plan. One thing stuck out to me the most:
Obviously, you’d like a long-term solution. Or you can try to get both. You’ve got to try to help this team win today and look to the future."
I’ve been saying for a while now that getting Manning in FA gives us the best chance to win now and that drafting Tannehill in the first round by trading back in the draft so that he can learn from Manning and live up to his full potential after a few years of sitting and becoming polished will allow us the best chance to win in the future. This could be huge for the franchise.
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This is the season of ambiguity, Serge
Other than naive owners, the staff will talk ploliticianspeak.
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by Tunaflipper on Feb 23, 2012 10:30 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, that's true
And it was overly ambiguous. I guess the fact that he can’t directly make statements about Manning or any other player (he wouldn’t even if he could) doesn’t really help. Still I can’t help getting excited thinking about the possibility of getting both Manning and Tannehill. That would be amazing.
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by SergeHimself on Feb 23, 2012 11:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Its a good idea.
Signing Manning and drafting Tannehill would be great. A young QB to develop and learn from Peyton Manning. Plus if Tannehill proves to be a bust you’ve got time to draft another QB.
Wasn't Cam Newton and "short and long term" solution? Or how about Andy Dalton?
The obvious answer to the QB question is draft a young franchise QB. As has been shown the last couple of years, rookie QB’s can win now and be the QB of the future.
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At this time of year anything Ireland says I take
as nothing! I know you’re one of the biggest Ireland haters but you have to admit the guy is one of the best at hiding his true intentions.
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I take what he says with a grain of salt too.
But I think his quote, in a backhanded way, reflects his and Parcells philosophy on the QB position. They just don’t value the position, IMO.
Of course QB should be considered a “long term solution”. How many teams that are consistently in the playoffs or in the Super Bowl conversation have “short term solutions” at QB? None because those teams like Pitt, NE, NO, GB, NYG, SD etc all have “long term solutions” at the position.
To get that “long term solution”, most teams have to draft a QB. And most of those QB’s that are drafted are drafted in the 1st round.
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"Walter, I love you, but sooner or later, you're going to have to face the fact you're a goddamn moron." THE DUDE (The Big Lebowski)
Oh I agree, I have said all along I see two scenarios unfolding
1) Sign Peyton and draft a QB that needs some time like Tannehill or someone like Brock Osweiler.
2) Draft RG3.
I know a lot of people don’t want to see us “trade the farm” for RG3 but I still think it is a very strong possibility.
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Hence the reason I said "most" teams.
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could be swinging for manning this year and trying to wait it out for someone like landry jones or matt barkley next year if they already scouted and liked them.
by Youngstown_Phinatic on Feb 23, 2012 11:31 PM EST reply actions
This....
We don’t have to get it all this year. The only thing is if we do win a bit this year, how much more is it going to take to get Barkley (or Jones)?
by Simple Buddha on Feb 23, 2012 11:46 PM EST up reply actions
Why does this sound like 2000 all over again.........
Fiedler’s just a short term solution. 12 years and 15 different starting QBs later…………….
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Well Green Bay is likely to franchise Flynn
So it doesn’t seem as far-fetched for Miami to take a chance on Manning.
Yes it would be a lot of money for GB if they couldn’t trade Flynn after that, but they are already a super bowl contender, so it wont hurt much. They could possibly get a 2nd round pick for him if they franchise and trade him.
Giving big money and a high draft pick for a 7th round QB who started 2 games? Miami might as well go for RG3 instead.
Think they should go for RG3 regardless.
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Wood be nice If Dan Marino were to talk with Peyton Manning!
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by wild zion beaver on Feb 24, 2012 1:09 AM EST reply actions
I think Ireland almost gets off on the hate Dolphins fans throw his way
He wants TWO banners flying over Joe Robbie at the same time.
In all seriousness, his comments remind me of a parent telling their kid Santa Claus died and no presents will be delivered Christmas morning. Ireland knows Dolphins fans are foaming at the mouth for a franchise signal caller, but he can’t help but jag those fans around every so often. I think he’ll deliver us a shiny new present this spring, but honestly, who really knows?
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"Theyas no fawking qwatahback!"-Anonymous Patriots fan at seeing the Wildcat formation for the first time.
by texascowpunk on Feb 25, 2012 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
i really wish the FO would grow some stones and make the power move to trade up for RGIII
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"A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore." - Yogi Berra
Look a power move like that is gonna cast roughly the following
If Ireland can trade our 1 and 2 with Cincy (Or dare I say NE) for our 1 then we would have to give the Rams both those picks as well as next years 1 and 2 and maybe even a player to go with it. (I am looking at you Hartline or Fasano) And in FA we need to sign a pass rusher, either TE or WR, and 1 O-lineman. However as Free Agency happens before the draft we would need to put these deals together in the next few short weeks in order to not completely screw ourselves over HOPING the Rams take our offer.
Can we just wheel Shula onto the field at the start of ever game being pushed by one of the Miami Cheerleaders? Talk about mixing fear and distraction...
by Hollywood Dolfan on Feb 24, 2012 2:56 AM EST up reply actions
Grow some stones? Who did you want them to trade the baby for the last couple of years?
As I recall they went out and snagged two big names in the last two season via trade. Also as I recall those two trades worked out. I also remember some other trades that did not go down that the fans wanted and in the end the Phins came out looking like genius’. Teams do not in general go out and add multiple big name skills guys unless your the Deadskins and we all see how that has worked out for them. If you look at model franchises like the Packers and the Steelers how do they build their teams? Just relax and wait to see what this new version of the FO and staff has up their sleeves this year.
"Theyas no fawking qwatahback!"-Anonymous Patriots fan at seeing the Wildcat formation for the first time.
by texascowpunk on Feb 25, 2012 4:02 PM EST up reply actions
I think this may mean Ireland is leaning towards Manning I would like this decision personally
because with a good QB we are a playoff caliber team and manning can win a SB with the now 1-15 colts. I know it was back in 06 but he played the saints in the SB a year before last year and now the team is 1-15 we are a 6-10 with so much more potential. I don’t see Manning as a Culpepper or a Green turnout and he is a certain HOF that thinks he can still play at high level so why not take the chance with minimal risk.
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