My ideal offseason (UPDATED)
1.) ADDRESS HEAD COACH-
the first thing I would do is hire Rob Chudzinski as head coach. I would like to keep Daboll as OC and Mike Nolan as DC, but if he likes someone else better, I would be ok with that. I like what he has done with the Panthers and Cam Newton this year. Maybe he can convince Ireland to actually pick some players from the U, instead of watching players go from right under our noses to make an impact on the rest of the NFL while we draft guys from Montana, Penn State, etc. I also think it would be good to bring some of that UM swagger.2.) ADDRESS QB-
trade the farm for the #1 pick. Whatever it takes, go get Andrew Luck. 4 first round picks is too much you say? From what I have heard about this guy he is the best QB to come out since Peyton Manning. I saw that when I watched him play. He runs the offense. I don't see any other college QB doing what he does on the field. Go back to the 1998 draft and decide if you would trade our full 1998-2003 draft for Manning, even though at the time we already had Marino. Believe me, we wouldn't have missed out on much.
via fitsnews.com
1998 Draft-
John Avery, Patrick Surtain(that really hurts but for Manning... done), Kenny Mixon(a roleplayer but he was never really an impact player on defense), Brad Jackson, Larry Shannon, Lorenzo Bromell, Scott Shaw, Nate Strikwerda, John Dutton and Jim Bundren.1999 Draft-
James Johnson, Rob Konrad(again another solid roleplayer.. but it is Manning we would get), Grey Ruegamer, Cecil Collins, Bryan Jones, Brent Bartholomew, Jermaine Haley, and Joe Wong.2000 Draft-
Todd Wade, Ben Kelly, Deon Dyer, Arturo Freeman, Ernest Grant, and Jeff Harris.2001 Draft-
Jamar Fletcher, Chris Chambers(way overrated in my book, dropped the ball whenever it counted), Travis Minor, Morlon Greenwood, Shawn Draper, Brandon Winey, Josh Heupel, Otis Leverette, and Rick Crowell,2002 Draft-
Seth McKinney, Randy McMichael, Omare Lowe, Sam Simmons, and Leonard Henry.2003 Draft-
Eddie Moore, Wade Smith, Taylor Whitley, Donald Lee, J. R. Tolver, Corey Jenkins, Tim Provost, Yeremiah Bell, and Davern Williams.Saying I would trade five ENTIRE drafts is a little bit extreme I will admit it.
But lets see if you can point out more than two players that were actually playmakers on this team? Y Bell has turned into a great player, but we had to suffer through years of injuries and mediocrity before he was actually useful to us. There are a few offensive and defensive linemen in that group, but they were either not starters, or not impact players. They were essentially warm bodies that stood in the way of the other team.Most of the people on that list are forgetable, although some are unforgettably bad.
That is a lot to give up, but consider the draft picks we would have saved for ourselves. If we have a franchise QB do we trade the farm for Ricky Williams only to watch the Wandstache run him into the ground and make him retire early? I say we don't. That would give us back our 1st round picks in 2002 and 2003(along with a lower 4th round pick).We wouldn't have traded for:
Sage Rosenfels(2003 7th round pick), A.J. Feely(2005 2nd round pick), Daunte Culpepper(2006 2nd round pick), Cleo Lemon(2006 5th round pick and AJ Feely), Joey Harrington(2007 5th round pick), Trent Green(2008 5th round pick), and Tyler Thigpen(2010 5th round pick).We would not have wasted draft picks on:
John Beck(2007 2nd round), Chad Henne(2008 2nd round), Pat White(2009 2nd round).All wasted picks, resulting in more wasted years.
How many more seasons are you willing to trade away to keep your precious picks?
10 seasons? We already did that didn't we? Do we want to hope that this time we will finally find that guy, that diamond in the rough only to be disapointed? You get what you pay for in the end. What we have gotten for ourselves is years of mediocrity and disapointment. Haven't we been down this path before? What are we going to lose? If we are willing to trade 2 1st round picks for a guy like Ricky Williams and then put the entire offense on his shoulders, we should be ok with giving up 4 st round picks for a QB that could actually make the players around him better. This is not to knock Ricky Williams, but that was really really unfair to him, to expect that he would be our entire offense.Oh, and I forgot to mention, would we have lost a guy like Wes Welker if he had Peyton Manning throwing him the ball? I would argue... no .. we would still have him.
3.) Get Free Agents to fill the rest of the holes.
If we have a franchise QB, it will be much easier to bring in free agents.QB-
Andrew Luck, Matt Moore backup(the best backup QB in the league). Do we need a 3rd string QB? I don't think so. If it ever gets that far your season is over anyway. You will probably be looking for another QB once your starting QB goes down anyway, and I am not sure if holding a #3 QB is worth the roster spot unless you have someone to develop. We don't.RB-
I like either Ronnie Brown or Peyton Hillis to compliment Reggie Bush. Both are free agents and I bet we could get a good price for both. If we keep Daboll, we might get Hillis to come here for a good price. I also wonder if Ronnie Brown might be willing to come back to the team that drafted him for a discount, now that things did not work out in Philly. Andrew Luck might tip the scales for him. If not, it is not that big of a deal. Roll with Daniel Thomas as a backup. It is still too early to call the guy a bust. He didn't have a full offseason workout program and maybe they can work on the guy's strength so he doesn't run like a little girl. He has the size to run with power, which is why I would like to see us bring someone in to show him how it is done. I would also not be against bringing back Larry Johnson to do that. I don't think we gave him enough of a chance here. The guy ran hard before we cut him.WR-
I think if we can get someone for a good price, we pull the trigger, but I wouldn't overpay for anyone. Our WRs are plenty good enough to make plays if we have someone that can get them the ball.TE-
I would like to see us get a blocking/pass catching TE to go along with Fasano, but if we can't find someone that can either go for when we do have draft picks, or we can find an undrafted FA. To be honest though, when have we even thrown the ball at Mastrud? Do we know what we have in him? Clay is going to be that pass catching TE we have been wanting... I can see it. We just need to get him the ball more.O-line-
This is where it gets interesting. Our starting line next season should be Jake Long(LT), Carl Nicks(LG), Mike Pouncey(C), Richie Incognito(RG), and John Jerry(RT). Carl Nicks can pull and Incognito can't. If we get him we move Incognito over to RG--his natural position. I think Jerry has done good enough at LT this year to be given a shot to start at RT. I think he is better suited at RT then RG, which is something I have been saying since last year(1st or 2nd game). It will be easier to draw Carl Nicks if we have a franchise QB, and I don't think the Saints will be willing to pay him this year since they shelled out for Jahri Evans last year. It would not be awful if we didn't get him, we wouldn't be too bad off with Incognito at LG and Carey at RG again.D-line-
another strength of this team. We have to let Paul Soliai go though. If we are going to pay Soliai big money anyway... I would much rather have this guy:Antonio Garay
See how good he is at shedding the blocker and making the play in the backfield, instead of getting pushed back 2-3 yards and then making the play? We are talking about a difference of 3rd and 4 and 3rd and 10. That is a big deal.
ILB-
do nothing. I would say resign Crowder, but I am pretty sure we are keeping Ireland and Crowder won't play for Ireland.OLB-
resign Ikaika Alama-Francis. I think him and Koa Misi can hold it down at the other OLB position opposite Cam Wake.CB-
I actually like where we are at CB also. Vontae and Sean Smith are going to get better as they mature. I like Jimmy Wilson and I think that Nolan Carroll is even getting better. Will Allen is getting up there, but he is still being productive and is a smart leader back there. When gets too old for CB, we could always move him back to FS. Yes, it is a different position. But he is an old vet and he knows what he is doing-- he can make that transition. I think the key to our coverage improving is realizing what type of players we have. We don't have zone coverage guys. All of our DBs are man coverage guys aside from Yeremiah Bell and Reshad Jones(possibly). Even our coverage LBs are better suited for man coverage than zone coverage schemes. The sooner we realize that and stop playing zone the sooner we get better in coverage.FS & SS-
I like Chris Clemons at FS over Reshad Jones. Jones makes some plays, but he blows some coverages. I do see Reshad Jones or Jimmy Wilson competing to take over for Y Bell when he leaves us.K, P, LS-
Do nothing. no reason to mess with any of those positions.
If you think about it we are really not that far away.
A new head coach, and some better position coaches, and a franchise QB is all we need. You can say that we need to get rid of Ireland, but look at the talent he has brought this team. Everyone misses on some guys, but overall I have liked what he has brought us. He has earned the right to get one more year to show us what he can do. If he can get us one of the 2 QBs in the draft you have to give him big points there for knowing exactly where we are lacking. If he addresses anything besides franchise QB though.. he needs to go.DRAFT WISHLIST(If we keep any picks)
As someone before stated, it would be awesome if we could sign 3 major free agents this year, but it is just not very realistic. I did a little bit of looking at the draft value chart even though I know it kinda goes out the window because of the way they changed the compensation for rookies, making the high picks more valuable, and the value also goes up because of a premier player at the #1 pick. In any case I totalled that if we gave them our 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 5th, 6th and 7th round picks this year along with our 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round picks next year the total value would be equal to 3019.6 which is about what the #1 pick would be worth(3000). Why might this be more attractive to the Colts? Well they would be able to draft more players in this year's draft. The value of a pick goes down by one round if it is in the following year's draft, which is why it took so many picks. Why did I keep our 4th round pick this year? I want to make sure we can draft..... a TE... which one ... the best one available. There ought to be a good enough one available to improve our 2nd TE(not counting Clay). This pick would be more of a traditional blocking TE to go on the other side of Fasano, and hopefully beat him out one day.Oh... and feel free to comment or REC this...
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It used to be so much easier as I remember….
We had [Brady] down… but we didn’t kick him. We helped him up and gave him a PowerPuff Girls band-aid for his knee. What exactly did you expect would happen when we did that?
For the most part I agree
One thing I don’t is the safety position. I think Jones will replace Bell in a year or so but I think we should sign Michael Griffin.
I would be on board with that ...
I was a little concerned with saying we were going to bring in a bunch of free agents… I am targeting the 2 that I think are the most vital. If we land 3 though… I would be all for that….
We had [Brady] down… but we didn’t kick him. We helped him up and gave him a PowerPuff Girls band-aid for his knee. What exactly did you expect would happen when we did that?
by Jason Scott_90 on Jan 4, 2012 2:01 AM EST up reply actions
Your 2 vital ones being Antonio Garay and Carl Nicks?
If so, Garay would be replacing Soliai so in doing so it would actually reduce the amount spent on the NT by over half. I think you could sign Nicks, Garay & Griffin for not much more than what the FT cost us with Soliai.
Yeah...
But what are the chances that we actually convince 3 big time free agents to come here to Miami? I mean, don’t get me wrong, I would LOVE THAT…. but I am trying to be as realistic as possible. If we get 2/3 of those guys it will have been an EXTREMELY productive free agency for the Dolphins. If Ireland lands all three, he would have my allegiance forever.
We had [Brady] down… but we didn’t kick him. We helped him up and gave him a PowerPuff Girls band-aid for his knee. What exactly did you expect would happen when we did that?
by Jason Scott_90 on Jan 4, 2012 11:13 PM EST up reply actions
Well I think Reggie is going to help in the recruiting of Nicks
if we show any interest in signing him (it’s to RB’s advantage for several reasons). Griffin is a dark horse as I think a lot of teams will be going for him. I am interested in seeing who the Titans franchise, I am sure it is either Griffin or Cortland Finnegan. Based on the fact that we looked at both Clark and Rolle last year and our FS position was still to be desired I think Ireland will make a major push for Griffin if he’s a UFA. As for Garay that would be under the assumption that we don’t resign Soliai (hopefully he and his agent have come back to earth and realized he is no Ngata or Wilfork). There is the possibility we go back to a 4-3 (I don’t think we will though) as well.
He is not even a Garay...
If we have the opportunity to upgrade we need to get it done. Our defense would go from a good defense(what I would call us right now), to a dominant defense that teams lose sleep over.
We had [Brady] down… but we didn’t kick him. We helped him up and gave him a PowerPuff Girls band-aid for his knee. What exactly did you expect would happen when we did that?
by Jason Scott_90 on Jan 5, 2012 7:38 AM EST up reply actions
love griffin
so down.
I'm ALL- IN. Do whatever it takes to get Andrew Luck or RGIII to Miami in 2012.
Laces out!
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Great Post. Rec'd
You are real close on everything. Chud is in my top 3 for coaches I like. Luck is a given. Trade up to 3 1sts. Thats a swap this year, 2013, and 2014 1st. I would even throw more picks or players in there. It all depends on which players and from what year the picks would come from. If we leave this years picks in tack we could solidify our team. If we trade all of our draft I would be more agressive in FA. It looks like a solid FA market. Cliff Anvil’s name gets thrown around alot. Maybe a receiver in the 4th. If we can’t get Luck. I say throw the money at Manning and look for a QB like Jones to develop.
I would say our priorities are QB, OLB, FS, LG, TE, NT, and #2 WR. All of these can be done this offseason through the draft or FA. These are some of the same positions we have needed for the last 2-3 years. So let’s hope Ross is willing to open his check book and that Ireland grows a set.
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Hope and Change----With the first pick in the 2012 NFL Draft The Miami Dolphins select Andrew Luck, QB Stanford
Sorry, you lost me at Chudzinski.
Name the last coordinator that had a successful first stint as a head coach for a bad team other than the one he was a coordinator for? I can only think of one (Mike Smith-ATL). I can however think of the long list of failed ones.
I used to think I had a drinking problem.
So I stopped thinking.
Sean Payton - Saints. Mike Tomlin - Steelers. John Fox (then with Carolina)
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Nobody hurt a tackler like Zonk did.
by rintintinsoldier on Jan 4, 2012 6:33 AM EST up reply actions
I guess Tomlin wouldn't qualify since the Steelers weren't a bad team. My "bad".
Official member of "The Luck Fleet"
Nobody hurt a tackler like Zonk did.
by rintintinsoldier on Jan 4, 2012 6:33 AM EST up reply actions
well would you consider a team that finished the season 6-3 a "bad" team?
I would have a hard time calling one of the hottest teams in the NFL the last half of the season “bad”
We had [Brady] down… but we didn’t kick him. We helped him up and gave him a PowerPuff Girls band-aid for his knee. What exactly did you expect would happen when we did that?
by Jason Scott_90 on Jan 4, 2012 7:11 AM EST up reply actions
We still didn't beat a team that ended up with a winning record -- so yes, I would
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Nobody hurt a tackler like Zonk did.
by rintintinsoldier on Jan 4, 2012 10:59 AM EST up reply actions
We are not a bad a team as people think. One real QB and we are in the post season.
Besides I believe that you have to take each person in each situation on its his merits. This is the same sort of argument that people make about hiring a coach that once won a Super Bowl or was a former college HC. I am sure that as the 49ers prepare for their play off game that they are happy that the FO did not listen to that tired old argument.
"Theyas no fawking qwatahback!"-Anonymous Patriots fan at seeing the Wildcat formation for the first time.
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by texascowpunk on Jan 4, 2012 11:02 AM EST up reply actions
There's always exceptions to the rule.
But if you fail to recognize what has happened in the past, you’re doomed to repeat it.
I used to think I had a drinking problem.
So I stopped thinking.
Yes if you get someone with the exact experience going in to the exact same situation but with so many
variables you don’t know. Every candidate can be pigeon holed in to some group that has failed in the past. Whats the point of doing that? There’s more then one way to find a successful coach.
"Theyas no fawking qwatahback!"-Anonymous Patriots fan at seeing the Wildcat formation for the first time.
As of 01/01/2012 an officially ordained priest of the Church Of The Latter Day Dude
Yes, but it's all about who's the bigger risk.
The guy who’s coached an NFL team before or the guy with zero HC experience at any level. Even Harbaugh was a college HC. Chud has 4 years total coaching experience all as an OC.
I used to think I had a drinking problem.
So I stopped thinking.
Every HC was once an assistant. At some point they have to get promoted.
"Theyas no fawking qwatahback!"-Anonymous Patriots fan at seeing the Wildcat formation for the first time.
As of 01/01/2012 an officially ordained priest of the Church Of The Latter Day Dude
Yes, very true.
I just prefer they get their feet wet on another team. Since the success rate for coordinators is very low.
I used to think I had a drinking problem.
So I stopped thinking.
Tomlin doesn't qualify because the Steelers were already a good team, having won the Super Bowl 2 years prior.
As for Payton, while he did turn a 3-13 team to 10-6, but then went 7-9, 8-8 the two following years almost Sparano like.
John Fox wasn’t consistent enough, which is why he was fired after 9 years. Plus he took a young talented team, let them get old and didn’t rebuild.
So even if I give you Payton. That’s two. Not very good. We’d have a better chance hiring a college coach.
I used to think I had a drinking problem.
So I stopped thinking.
So you're saying John Fox wasn't a successful coach at Carolina
I beg to differ. He was successful. Don’t confuse him “letting them get old” with injuries and an ineffective quarterback. You can nitpick all you want, but your statement is bogus in my opinion. Good coaches can come from a variety of places/positions — OC, DC, College head coach, Special Teams Coach, etc.
And I had already discounted Tomlin with a reply to my own posting. You could also throw Rex Ryan into the mix even though I don’t think he’s much of a coach - he did take his team to 2 AFC championship games in a row.
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Nobody hurt a tackler like Zonk did.
by rintintinsoldier on Jan 5, 2012 9:00 AM EST up reply actions
If John Fox was successful, he wouldn't have been fired.
Who’s fault do you think it is putting an ineffective QB on the field? It’s the HC’s fault. Just like it will be John Fox’s fault the Broncos get slaughtered in the playoffs because the QB they put on the field is Tim Tebow. I also wouldn’t consider 3 winning seasons out of 9 successful. Nor would most owners, which is why he was fired.
I’m not saying good coaches can’t come from a variety of places. I’m simply stating the success rate of coordinators taking over bad teams is very very low.
Sure, I’ll even give you Rex Ryan. Now you’re up to 3. Would you like me to start naming all the failures?
I used to think I had a drinking problem.
So I stopped thinking.
I wouldn't bet against Tim Tebow...
Say what you want about the guy for the first 58 minutes of the game… He sucks… whatever.. But if he makes 6 throws in a game, one of them he is going to be a pass where he threads the needle and puts his team in the endzone to win the game. He is the antithesis of Chad Henne… he is a winner… he is clutch. He can actually run a 2minute drill, instead of the flaming pile of horsecrap we see everytime we need to go 80 yards in 2+minutes
We had [Brady] down… but we didn’t kick him. We helped him up and gave him a PowerPuff Girls band-aid for his knee. What exactly did you expect would happen when we did that?
by Jason Scott_90 on Jan 6, 2012 4:40 AM EST up reply actions
LOL I also would not put money on him. It seems as if in recent weeks defenses have found the right
recipe to thwart Tebow’s unique approach to the game.
"Theyas no fawking qwatahback!"-Anonymous Patriots fan at seeing the Wildcat formation for the first time.
As of 01/01/2012 an officially ordained priest of the Church Of The Latter Day Dude
by texascowpunk on Jan 6, 2012 10:17 AM EST up reply actions
If so, then Pittsburgh forgot to review the film!
Official member of "The Luck Fleet"
Nobody hurt a tackler like Zonk did.
by rintintinsoldier on Jan 10, 2012 6:34 AM EST up reply actions
Oh they were listning they were (just into beleaving) what coach Fox was feeding them!
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We often look rite past the positive's cuz the negative's-r-so hard they dominate! Have you touched & preened your beaver-pelt yet!
Chyt; cha aint seen the worst tilo youd seen the least - Henne to Marshall compleat two year descreption!
by wild zion beaver on Jan 10, 2012 8:27 AM EST up reply actions
LOL The best thing Denver did was to tell Tebow to start airing it out.
No one could have seen that coming.
"Theyas no fawking qwatahback!"-Anonymous Patriots fan at seeing the Wildcat formation for the first time.
As of 01/01/2012 an officially ordained priest of the Church Of The Latter Day Dude
by texascowpunk on Jan 10, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
Bambarded Steele curtain just (fell) under it's own colossel weight!
One less Troy P. hair commercial that i wont miss!
wopper "the king" computer
We often look rite past the positive's cuz the negative's-r-so hard they dominate! Have you touched & preened your beaver-pelt yet!
Chyt; cha aint seen the worst tilo youd seen the least - Henne to Marshall compleat two year descreption!
by wild zion beaver on Jan 10, 2012 8:27 PM EST up reply actions
If you combined Henne's first 3 quarters
with Tebow’s 4th quater you would have a dynamic franchise QB. lol
It's called Tom Brady
"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I - I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference." - Robert Frost. "pm striker king"- WZB.
A Rogers!
wopper "the king" computer
We often look rite past the positive's cuz the negative's-r-so hard they dominate! Have you touched & preened your beaver-pelt yet!
Chyt; cha aint seen the worst tilo youd seen the least - Henne to Marshall compleat two year descreption!
by wild zion beaver on Jan 8, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
I could point out to you that every year 31 coaches fail...
If you want, it has been so long though that I will give you the teams that make it at least to the AFC and NFC championship game. That would mean that every year 4 coaches succeed and 28 fail.
We had [Brady] down… but we didn’t kick him. We helped him up and gave him a PowerPuff Girls band-aid for his knee. What exactly did you expect would happen when we did that?
by Jason Scott_90 on Jan 6, 2012 4:42 AM EST up reply actions
NFL Owners and GMs would not agree with your assessment.
Success in the NFL isn’t solely driven by winning the Super Bowl or your respective conference championship. Putting together a winning team and fans in the seats will keep a HC employed. Look at some of the longest tenured coaches in the NFL. Jeff Fisher, Andy Reid, Bill Cowher all coached for 10 plus years without winning a Super Bowl. But they put consistent winners out on the field year after year.
I used to think I had a drinking problem.
So I stopped thinking.
I think you kinda missed my point...
So instead we are going to say that …
All Coordinators are destined to fail. Being a head coach means that you are more qualified than anyone else to be a head coach. If you were not born a head coach, you will never succeed at being a head coach
We had [Brady] down… but we didn’t kick him. We helped him up and gave him a PowerPuff Girls band-aid for his knee. What exactly did you expect would happen when we did that?
by Jason Scott_90 on Jan 10, 2012 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
You had a point?????
I used to think I had a drinking problem.
So I stopped thinking.
you will always be successful. If you were not born a head coach... too bad for you
We had [Brady] down… but we didn’t kick him. We helped him up and gave him a PowerPuff Girls band-aid for his knee. What exactly did you expect would happen when we did that?
by Jason Scott_90 on Jan 10, 2012 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
too bad for you... you will never succeed as a head coach
We had [Brady] down… but we didn’t kick him. We helped him up and gave him a PowerPuff Girls band-aid for his knee. What exactly did you expect would happen when we did that?
by Jason Scott_90 on Jan 10, 2012 3:13 PM EST up reply actions
Sure, go ahead and name all the failures
and then name all of the College HC’s and former NFL HC’s who took over bad teams and were successful. Taking over a bad team and turning it around is never an easy thing. It usually takes years unless you get lucky and play in a weaker division. Look at the Browns and how long they’ve struggled.
That’s why Sean Payton should be given tons of credit. Getting Brees was obviously a key, but that guy can coach. You could also throw Jim Schwartz in there although a lot of pieces were in place. He’s gotten the Lions to believe they can be winners vs. perennial losers.
Official member of "The Luck Fleet"
Nobody hurt a tackler like Zonk did.
by rintintinsoldier on Jan 6, 2012 6:22 AM EST up reply actions
I give Payton tons of credit.
Mostly due to the fact that coordinators don’t have a very good success rate at turning around bad teams. Turning around bad teams is a very difficult thing to do. But that doesn’t change the fact that former HC’s or coordinators on that team have a far better success rate at doing so.
I used to think I had a drinking problem.
So I stopped thinking.
oooh... how does it feel to be soo wrong?
We had [Brady] down… but we didn’t kick him. We helped him up and gave him a PowerPuff Girls band-aid for his knee. What exactly did you expect would happen when we did that?
by Jason Scott_90 on Jan 10, 2012 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
Take it easy there tiger.
"Theyas no fawking qwatahback!"-Anonymous Patriots fan at seeing the Wildcat formation for the first time.
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by texascowpunk on Jan 10, 2012 5:37 PM EST up reply actions
9 years? That is a long time.
"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I - I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference." - Robert Frost. "pm striker king"- WZB.
Especially with only 3 winning seasons to show for it.
I used to think I had a drinking problem.
So I stopped thinking.
Mike McCarthy was the first to come to my mind.
He took over a team that was in much worse position then we are now. The only difference is the team he took over had Favre and Rodgers (no one in their right mind knew Rodgers would be this good though) and not much else, we have a lot of very good pieces with no QB.
How was GB in a worse situation than us?
He inherited the 7th ranked passing offense, and 1st ranked passing defense. Which he then took to a 13-3 record his first year. Why were they 4-12 the previous year? Maybe because their two best offensive weapons (Ahman Green and Javon Walker) played a total of 6 games? The same roster that went 4-12 went 10-6 the year before when they were healthy. No way you can compare us to that team.
I used to think I had a drinking problem.
So I stopped thinking.
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ANDREW LUCK is the real deal, and best looking QB to come out in a decade. He makes all the throws, runs well, great leader, tons of experieince, and already reads defenses. the kid is just plain good. there is NO player that would help us more than Luck – really not even 2-3 players, as long as we have poor QB play – it just dosent matter… Lets see… we got the ALPHA WR, Stud LT, Great pass rusher, Young/good CB – and YET WE STILL FINISHED 6-10, (after 7-9 twice) SO HOW MUCH DIFFERENCE DID THESE PLAYERS MAKE………..? NOT ENOUGH. … Oh and dont let me forget the Ole “pouncer” Pouncy at C – sure he played pretty good – but it DID NOT MATTER.
What if we had taken Ryan Mallett in the 1st – do you really know he would’nt have been a good QB ? How about Mallett over 3.3 yards per carry DAN THOMAS ?
Your points about the LOST DECADE OF DRAFT PICKS is spot on…None of those players would have been worth a "Manning/Marino/Brady type QB – and that’s what Luck is. sure – He will also need some “pro” experience – but I expect some great things right away – and a playoff berth in short order.
ALSO – I would go one step further and offer up DAVIS, WAKE, OR MARSHALL, OR LONG (only one) to go along with 3 firsts – instead of 4 first round picks. – I prefer Wake, due to his age – but with Long’s CAP number and recent injuries – He is a good choice as well…. another LT taken very high would be a lot cheaper due to the new rookie wage cap.
REASON: all could be replaced CHEAPER down the road. Plus you have to expect with a rebuild of this size – that the first year or two won’t be great, and your VET players will be past their prime when Luck is ready to take us to the SB…. 3-4 years at a minimum. You must get younger around him… but he is the key…
41 Year FIN FAN
Franchise QB... NOW !!! ...Draft Ryan Mallett ...Draft some Freakin speed for a change. WR & RB speed kills......
i could sound more important if i used caps to make my points too...
i’m just playin
a wise man once said..."My cats breath smells like cat food"
My love for THE MIAMI DOLPHINS is unconditional...period!
Win for pride, Win for us fans!
God I hope we can knock the Jets out of the playoffs, I couldn't imagine despising a team and fan base more.
Go Dolphins!
by Phinphinatic on Jan 4, 2012 11:02 AM EST up reply actions
That picture of Chuduski looks like its from Megans Law's website!!!!
Good read and good points!
a wise man once said..."My cats breath smells like cat food"
My love for THE MIAMI DOLPHINS is unconditional...period!
Win for pride, Win for us fans!
God I hope we can knock the Jets out of the playoffs, I couldn't imagine despising a team and fan base more.
Go Dolphins!
no to payton
id take my chances with moore or henne before i pay manning 10 to 20 mill. a year.
My post didn't mention Peyton Manning...
Are you paying the 10-20 mil? Then what exactly are you worried about? Someone will pay Peyton Manning that much because he is worth that much. Colts last season with Peyton Manning were 10-6. The Colts without Peyton Manning were 2-14. I would contend that NO OTHER player on any team in the NFL means as much to their team as he means. The Patriots have shown that they can be almost as good without Tom terrific. The Packers? When a guy named Matt Flynn can throw for 480 yds and 6 TDs, maybe the Packers are just a really really talented team, that isn’t completely dependent on their QB.
We had [Brady] down… but we didn’t kick him. We helped him up and gave him a PowerPuff Girls band-aid for his knee. What exactly did you expect would happen when we did that?
by Jason Scott_90 on Jan 6, 2012 8:56 PM EST up reply actions
Good job Rec'd. You did a nice job
showing our drafts and all the wasted picks we’ve done. I agree people that people are too cautious to trade away a lot for a potential franchise QB in the offseason but then are pissed off again during the season.
There is a couple of things I would change, though. We NEED another OLB. Misi had one sack this season. ONE. Our money has to go towards the OLB position and the guard position, which you addressed nicely with Nicks. If we do hire Chud and Nolan does stay (which I’m not sure about) and we stay in the 3-4 then we should go after Anthony Spencer.
I also think that the RB position shouldn’t be addressed. Reggie is coming back and we used like 4 picks on Daniel Thomas last year. He was battling injuries so we shouldn’t give up on him so quickly. We should use that money instead on a safety like Michael Griffin or LaRon Landry
I got S + What a Dog's Tail Does.
One of them "Young Guns"
Good post and also that pick of Chud doesn't really scream
“swagger” lol
I got S + What a Dog's Tail Does.
One of them "Young Guns"
I have loved what he did this year with the Panthers.
I think anytime you bring in guys from the U you get that. He did play on the 1987 and 1989 national championship teams. I just think the more local guys we bring in, the more pride they will have in their team.
We had [Brady] down… but we didn’t kick him. We helped him up and gave him a PowerPuff Girls band-aid for his knee. What exactly did you expect would happen when we did that?
by Jason Scott_90 on Jan 4, 2012 11:24 PM EST up reply actions
Misi wasn't playing on most passing downs because of JT though....
Last year without JT he did have 5 sacks… That is pretty solid for a rookie SOLB. He is not the guy that is ever going to put up crazy sack stats, but he is a hybrid pass rusher/run stopper, who will occasionally drop into coverage. I think most people look at him and expect him to put up Cameron Wake numbers and that is not really what you want out of him.
We had [Brady] down… but we didn’t kick him. We helped him up and gave him a PowerPuff Girls band-aid for his knee. What exactly did you expect would happen when we did that?
by Jason Scott_90 on Jan 4, 2012 11:17 PM EST up reply actions
only one rec so far?
We had [Brady] down… but we didn’t kick him. We helped him up and gave him a PowerPuff Girls band-aid for his knee. What exactly did you expect would happen when we did that?

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