Say NO to Flynn and Manning! (EDITED)

when for the same value we could give them this year’s 3rd and 4th round picks? I am not sure what the 2014 picks are worth, but from what I understand the 2nd round pick next year is worth the same as the 3rd round pick this year. If you have a conviction about a guy and you want him, spend picks this year, if you have enough to go get him and be done with it. Don’t give up next year’s picks unless you need to.

It’s too low. 2014 picks carry much less value than a 2012 pick and less than a 2013 pick.

I Agree with the trading up, but we will probably have to loose a player along with picks, also getting Nicks, Mathis, and Nelson would break the bank unless we trade Marshall and release Solai and a few others. Other than that I would definitely be happy with the rest. Getting RG3 I would target his favorite Target K. Wright in the 2nd.

We’d end up with RG3, Potter in the 3rd (hopefully!), and FAs like Jake Scott and Reggie Nelson. I don’t think we’ll make as many moves as you may think and there is no way we don’t lose our current 2nd round pick if we trade up.

You aren’t sold on Flynn, who is 26 (his prime) and would be running (practically) the same system he was learning the past 3-4 years in GB and threw 6 TDs (I don’t care if they were meaningless or not) in his last outing without much time with the starting group because of Rodgers play? I implore you to tell me how many times that our STARTING QB since Marino, has even thrown 4 TDs.

BUT you are sold on RG3 the mortgage a ton of future draft picks based on what he did in college???

Opinions vary I guess. I say get the QB who has shown he can run the system we will be implementing, save our draft picks, and continue to make t team better for years to come.

Just a question, but what have you seen in Flynn that you wouldn’t want our owner to spend a few (k, alot) of $$$ on that you. That you would rather mortgage picks and picks and picks for the next 2 years on RG3.

Don’t get me wrong, I want one of the 2. But It clearly makes more since to take a cap hit (if he isn’t the answer) on Flynn who has shown, even if its just a bit, that he can run the system than spend the future of the team for the next 2 years on a QB that hasn’t proven anything except he is great against college kids.

But there is NO way that a team trades their pick for this year’s first, next year’s first and second, and a 2014 second. Why would they want picks two years down the road? If you are trading picks, you are trading this years and maybe next years. That’s about it.

And, if you do that, you don’t have a second to get Allen.

Every time someone does one of these posts and talks about the Dolphins trading to get RG3, they then say we get Allen in the 2nd. You can’t have both. It won’t happen. You are going to lose that second if you trade for RG3.

But wasn’t he “just a guy” until Coyle coached him? Couldn’t Coyle do the same thing for one of our “just a guy” safeties?

Manning or Flynn will be land in FA in Miami
and possibly Tannehill in Draft…

but RGIII was not and option, because the price will be to high in picks… was more possible to trade down and get more picks…

I’m not sold on Matt Flynn, even though it doesn’t matter what I think, if Joe Philbin believes Flynn is the answer then by all means sign him up, but I don’t think he’s a franchise QB.

And there you have it. If you think JP is the guy to be the HC then how do you not trust his opinion on Flynn????

to Robert Griffin III. He had a really good year, but not every case works out like Cam Newton’s did. I believe that Irsay is enough of a douche to let Manning go even if he’s healthy AND then take RGIII number one in the draft after he blows up the Combine and makes everyone go nuts with even more hype about how fast and amazing he is. Griffin will blow Luck away at the Combine because so much pressure is being put on Luck to be the second coming. He trailed off towards the end of last season whereas Griffin surged forward. That leaves us with the possibility to trade up with the Rams for Luck, which I am all for. If that doesn’t happen then I’m all for Manning if he’s healthy or Flynn if Philbin thinks he’s the real deal – in that order, with us drafting Tannehill in the second.

Peyton Manning- IF he is healthy there is no bettle signal caller in the last 14 years in the league. His health is and will be a concern for the rest of his career… BUT we do have a capable backup in Moore. And if we draft Tannehill in the second round (which is highly possible this could work out great.

Matt Flynn- Alot goes about him not having ‘experience’ but same could have been said about Brady years ago when he sat behind Drew Bledsoe. Its not so much about experience as it is about how intelligent you are. Flynn has shown that he has heart, determination, and ability to read defenses in the few chances he has to show it. And now we have his former ‘coach’ who knows his strengths and weaknesses better than anyone. And for this purpose he would be great addition to the team, BUT does still involve risk just as Peyton Manning would. But for a different reason, he is young and inexperienced. Not injured.

Andrew Luck- if by some chance the Colts take RGIII and we have a chance to trade the Rams for the second overall pick.. is it truly worth mortgaging our future, and some other pressing needs just to get the second coming (speculation).. maybe maybe not.. but just know with this decision rides alot… either you become a saint or a sinner.. loved or hated… BUT if you do not mortgage your future… your less likely to get ridiculed for it.

RGIII- he shows great promise, and much like the previous it involves mortgaging your future to get a POSSIBLE signal caller, just better make sure hes the REAL DEAL.. and not a Ryan Leaf, or Akili Smith…

To be honest I would LOVE to have any of these, AS LONG AS THEY WORK OUT.. but each one involves its own risk… but they all could very well be an award as well.. And im sure EVERYONE agrees that Phins fans deserve a reward after the last 10 years of heartache and dissapointment stemmed from the Wandstedt regime….

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=jc-cole_peyton_manning_colts_neck_surgery_jim_irsay013012

Another boring RG3 post. With Coach Philbin having knowledge of Matt Flynn and Mike Sherman having knowledge of Ryan Tannehill = NO RG3!

His ex coach Dungy said he would retire before playing for anyone else anyway. We have a new coach and from what ive seen and heard him say, in Philphin, I trust will make the right decision. Until he proves that trust wrong, I belive they will do whats best for our team.I mean who knows Flynn better, the rest are a guessing game. We will see.

from the free agency perspective anyway.

I do think that – whether he pans out or not – Flynn is the best option this off-season. Even more so than RG3 and Manning,

People are giving Manning way too much credit as to what he’d bring to Miami. You’re dreaming if you think he’d give you anything substantial at all in a new system with unfamiliar players around him, and having taken an entire season off with a broke neck/nerve injury that has depleted him of a substantial amount of arm strength. Maybe if we could get Manning’s brain and transplant it into a worthy physical QB specimen that would be awesome…but until that technology arrives, I say Miami should go hard after Flynn.

One advantage to getting Flynn beyond the obvious is that we don’t lose any draft picks. We can build depth and draft to fill needs AND have our QB situation set up all before the first camp.

He will be way to expensive. There is no reason for us to have 3 1st round picks and the highest paid G in history on the O-Line. Great organizations/teams are able to find values, especially on the O-Line. Plus, I dont think the interior O-Line was much of a problem last year. IMO RT is the only weakness on the line and I think playing Jerry at RT solves that problem. While I agree Nicks would be a great addition, the money it would cost makes him a luxury, not a necessity.

I said this the last time they played the Giants he will never win a nother SB for NE Pest-strips.