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Duke's Way Too Early Non-Quarterback Miami Dolphins Mock Draft

It’s about that time of year for NFL fans everywhere to start thinking about the future of their respective teams. While some teams are gearing up for the playoffs, most are thinking about how to improve so they can make the playoffs next year. First there will be the frenzy to find a new coach for some teams and then all teams will enter into the melee that is free agency. But everything always comes back to the all important NFL Draft.

As college bowl games finish up and prospects make decisions about their future, every NFL fan starts an evaluation of their favorite team and then thinks of how they would address team needs if they were able to; hence the mock draft. Mock drafts being out the general manager in all of us as we decide what we think is best for the team.

I decided to come up with the mock draft that best reflects how I think the Dolphins should address team needs through the draft. But there is one exception… no quarterbacks.

Star-divide

Wait, what? I know what some of you might be thinking: "You mean to tell me that you, who have been more than vocal about the Dolphins drafting a quarterback, are saying we shouldn’t draft one now???" Well before you go thinking I’m being hypocritical, let me explain my reasoning. If there is one thing that Dolphins fans know how to do more than anything else, it’s argue about quarterbacks; it’s what we do. One can only guess what we’ll do when we actually have a franchise quarterback. At any rate, every fan knows that we need a quarterback. It’s our greatest need and very few, if any, will deny that. But we have discussed quarterbacks since last off-season. We are discussing it now. We will discuss it until we finally get that seemingly elusive franchise signal caller. So I wanted to try something new.

Let’s play the what-if game. What if we peer into the Pilantir and see that the quarterback position gets taken care of another way? What if we see Matt Moore developing into a franchise guy under the expert tutelage of Rob Chudzinski or Pete Carmichael Jr.? What if a healthy Peyton Manning gets cut and decides to enhance his legacy by leading the Dolphins to the Super Bowl (distinct possibility)? What if we sign Matt Flynn and this time, it actually works out? What if???

I’m not saying that I actually buy any of that. But just about every mock draft you see from here to April is going to have us take a quarterback at some point. But with Matt Barkley’s decision to return to school and Landry Jones’ draft stock taking a nose dive, this once heralded draft class has become a two horse race between Andrew Luck and Robert Griffin III. So it’s those two, and a bunch of other guys that we probably don’t want anyway and shouldn’t talk ourselves into drafting. And unless we trade up, then we are stuck drafting an inferior prospect in a later round, drafting an inferior prospect in the first round (even worse), or not taking one at all. When you look at the possibility that the 2013 class could be incredibly loaded at quarterback, the last option might be the best.

So in the spirit of fun and for the sake of discussion, I wanted to post a mock draft in which we don’t have to worry about the quarterback position. Please don’t reply with comments saying that we will have to trade up or we will draft a quarterback or otherwise address the quarterback situation; I know this. Let’s pretend that for once, we don’t have to deal with a quarterback and we can draft to fill other needs. So here goes…

First Round

Trade Down with Chicago for the 19th overall pick, 83rd overall pick (3rd round), and a 2013 first rounder.

With the 19th selection in the 2012 NFL Draft , the Miami Dolphins select Whitney Mercilus, DE/OLB Illinois

First, let me discuss the trade. It might be a reach with the 2013 first rounder, but Chicago might be tempted to move up and get a top tier left tackle, which they desperately need. We could get a second rounder in 2012, but I would rather stockpile picks for the next draft, just in case we need to go after Barkley. And if not, we have two first rounders in 2013. With a healthy Jay Cutler and a pair of bookend tackles, the Bears could make a serious playoff run and they might be willing to trade away a future pick.

Now… the pick. I’m sure that some of you will cry foul that we didn’t get a right tackle or some other offensive lineman. But this comes down to two things: need and positional value. We need a right tackle, but we also need a pass rusher. Pass rushers have a much higher positional value than right tackles or interior offensive linemen. If you need an example, think of it like this: If the best right tackle and the best pass rusher were to hit free agency, who would get paid the most money? (Answer: the pass rusher, every time). And pass rusher is a HUGE need for us anyway. For example: if our shiny new right tackle gets injured, we can slide Jerry or someone over to cover for him. Is it ideal? No, but it would work. If Cameron Wake gets injured, who replaces him? Misi and Trusnik. I rest my case.

Whitney Mercilus would be a great fit for this team. He can at the very least, give us a rotational pass rusher in a nickel set until he becomes more comfortable in coverage. He has the size to play as an end in a four man front, which gives Nolan, or our new defensive coordinator plenty of versatility. He has great speed of the edge, power to handle the run game, and a relentless motor. Given Wake’s affinity for lining up on the defensive left side, Mercilus gives us a premier talent at RE or ROLB.

With the 40th pick in the 2012 NFL Draft, the Miami Dolphins select Vinny Curry DE/OLB Marshall

Doubling down on pass rushers? Absolutely! And there are three good reasons why. First of all, it is almost a certainty that most draft picks fail. In a good draft, you get two long term starters and the rest is roster filler. It just never happens that any team hits on all of its draft picks. So while it seems like a good idea to try and fill every need in one draft, it just ain’t happenin’. Doubling down here gives us some insurance in case one of the picks doesn’t work out. The second reason is that Wake will turn 30 years old this month. It may be likely that he plays well into his thirties, but it’s more likely that he’ll start to drop off within a year or two. Drafting two pass rushers, if they pan out, gives us a future at the position. And the third reason… well you can just ever have enough pass rushers.

Curry, like Mercilus, is a good edge rusher with speed and power. He has good size and can be versatile in any front. He can work in a rotation with Mercilus and can line up as a blitzer if we wanted three pass rushers on the field. If both Mercilus and Curry pan out, we have our pass rushing duo for the next decade or so.

With the 72nd pick in the 2012 NFL Draft, the Miami Dolphins select Alameda Ta’amu, DT, Washington

This pick is based purely on the speculation that we keep Mike Nolan as defensive coordinator. If Nolan stays, we will stay in a 3-4 base defense. If we stay in a 3-4 defense, we need a nose tackle. Whether or not, Soliai stays is irrelevant as we need a backup nose tackle anyway. If Soliai costs too much, then we may address the need earlier in the draft. However, at this point, Ta’amu gives us good value. He’s a two-down run stuffing defensive tackle that fits perfectly into the 3-4 at nose. He can also play a 4-3 tackle, but will not offer too much in terms of pass rush. He was a borderline first round prospect, but recent games, including the bowl game against Baylor, has allowed his stock to drop. If he’s here in the 3rd round, we are taking him to be starting or backup nose tackle.

With the 83rd pick in the 2012 NFL Draft, the Miami Dolphins select, Matt Reynolds, OT, BYU

And there you get your right tackle folks. He’s not an elite prospect at tackle, but you don’t need that for a right tackle. He’s got the footwork and size to be a solid anchor on the right side. He’s really good in pass protection, but needs to get a bit better in run blocking. I personally think John Jerry has a chance to win the right tackle spot and I also wouldn’t count out Lydon Murtha. I also think we will address this position in free agency. However, if we can draft Reynolds here, we can keep Jerry at right guard and our line should be set. Two good tackles, a good center, decent guards, and depth.

With the 104th pick in the 2012 NFL Draft, the Miami Dolphins select, Brian Quick, WR, Appalachian State

I don’t think Quick falls this far, but this is my mock, and I’m allowing it. I have watched this kid play for his entire college career and I truly believe he has Alpha Receiver potential. He was a touted high school basketball prospect that took up football in his senior year, and that’s why he ended up at AppState and not a bigger football program. He’s comes in at 6’5" 220. He’s got good hands, but they can stand to get a bit better. He is not a speed threat (more of a 4.5 guy), but has deceptive down field speed that allowed him to be a deep threat in college. He has got great vertical leaping ability and will win a ton of jump balls down field and in the red zone. He’s a physical presence that fights for extra yards and is a willing blocker. He has a strong work ethic and wants to perfect his craft. For a receiver of his size, he moves well in and out of breaks, making him a potentially dangerous weapon in the slot as well as outside. I think he’s got potential to be a #1 wideout, but at worst, he would us another big red zone target, and would help our weak red zone passing offense.

With the 136th pick of the 2012 NFL Draft, the Miami Dolphins select Ladarius Green, TE, Louisiana-Lafayette

I’m sure this will be an area of contention with some, but I don’t see the tight end position as being a huge need. Yes, I know that Anthony Fasano is never going to be Jimmy Graham or Rob Gronkowski, but I think he would flourish with good quarterback play. And you won’t find many tight ends that block as well as he does. The truth is that while you can upgrade from Fasano, you can still win with Fasano. So I decided to draft other options first. Ladarius Green is not a widely known name, but fans will become familiar with him before the draft. He’s a tall tight end (6’6") who is a little on the light side (236) for a tight end. However, with pro conditioning, he can add some weight and be an effective receiving threat. He has great hands and will be a mismatch against linebackers. He can be the type of tight end that teams looks for now as a receiving mismatch. Add him in with Fasano and Clay as the H-back, and you have a potentially potent set of weapons for any quarterback.

With the 200th pick in the 2012 NFL Draft, the Miami Dolphins select Terence Ganaway, RB, Baylor

This guy will probably move up from this spot, but for right now, he’s rated about this spot, so I’m drafting him. We have a pretty nice two-headed beast at running back with Bush and Thomas. While Bush played better than anyone expected this season, he is still an injury concern. Thomas showed flashes of potential early, but slowed down as the season went on. No one is going to give up on him yet, but getting a similar back would be a prudent move. Ganaway has size and speed and could be a steal this late in the draft.

So there you have it. If we didn’t have quarterback issues, this is the draft I would love to see. We bolster the defense with some top prospects and get some other developmental type players that can contribute and that might become steals. Anyway, I hope you enjoyed this mock draft and I hope it stirred up some discussion about other needs and other prospects. I know the order probably isn't completely correct, but it's what we got right now.

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If we dont draft a QB this is about as good as it gets

im still aboard the Luck/Rg3 train though lol

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by BSerious72 on Jan 3, 2012 7:48 PM EST reply actions  

I could have gone with Vontaze Burfict too, but I think ILB isn't as big of a need

especially if we go 4-3.

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by The Earl on Jan 3, 2012 8:01 PM EST up reply actions  

i agree

i like burfict and spence but not a pressing need…

i also like trent richardson lol but same thing

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by BSerious72 on Jan 3, 2012 8:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Very nice read Duke, a little upset no mention of Greens, but still very nice read and Rec'd

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by 21Dave on Jan 3, 2012 8:33 PM EST reply actions  

Uz mak'n me gag on my ice cream...

I’ve been waiting… 13 years for us to draft a new Marino… and now some R say’n we shouldn’t…. It’s good I live in a one story house…

by JImbo111 on Jan 3, 2012 8:35 PM EST reply actions  

I'm not saying we shouldn't, I'm just saying what if we didn't have to worry about it

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by The Earl on Jan 3, 2012 8:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Lov'ya Earl, BUT...

Don’t think Manning will ever be what he was, don’t think Moore will ever develop into a top level QB. He’s not bad and he will improve, but… I want that stud QB! I’d take a chance on Jones, kill to have Luck or RG3.

by JImbo111 on Jan 3, 2012 8:49 PM EST up reply actions  

You completely missed his point......twice!

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by texascowpunk on Jan 4, 2012 4:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Alright.

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by texascowpunk on Jan 4, 2012 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

As with our last pick, i want us to get Moore from Bosie State. we will be able to get him this low couse of his hight is not calaber NFL materal!

But we will need an acurate arm, for our wideouts in camp & hes the best. If anyone can remember a story about the little horse Seabiscutt!

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by wild zion beaver on Jan 5, 2012 3:17 AM EST up reply actions  

I thought he was like as tall as Nicky or some such.

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by texascowpunk on Jan 5, 2012 3:26 AM EST up reply actions  

I dont think 4'f-3 is what i was saying but yeah his acuracy is speacial!

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by wild zion beaver on Jan 5, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Ok but whats the whole story?

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by texascowpunk on Jan 5, 2012 5:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Well as long as we are gonna use that 200th pick might as well get sum use out of it!

wopper "the king" computer
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Chyt; cha aint seen the worst tilo youd seen the least - Henne to Marshall compleat two year descreption!

by wild zion beaver on Jan 5, 2012 7:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Alright but your explanation seems....well you know....not finished.

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by texascowpunk on Jan 5, 2012 8:18 PM EST up reply actions  

When in school with th other fishes, i wood look out the window of luck & hope

Only one thing out there, Mrs.Simpson wood say. Usee the unknown is “not a place” to be without tools!

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We often look rite past the positive's cuz the negative's-r-so hard they dominate! Have you touched & preened your beaver-pelt yet!
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by wild zion beaver on Jan 5, 2012 9:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Wait, beavers are fish?

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by texascowpunk on Jan 5, 2012 10:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Not quit but as a youth, i wood swim near the bottum of the pond (hehe)!

Tadpols feard to tread!

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We often look rite past the positive's cuz the negative's-r-so hard they dominate! Have you touched & preened your beaver-pelt yet!
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by wild zion beaver on Jan 6, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

A rebel in your youth?

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by texascowpunk on Jan 6, 2012 7:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Does it show even now as i type!

wopper "the king" computer
We often look rite past the positive's cuz the negative's-r-so hard they dominate! Have you touched & preened your beaver-pelt yet!
Chyt; cha aint seen the worst tilo youd seen the least - Henne to Marshall compleat two year descreption!

by wild zion beaver on Jan 6, 2012 8:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I can tell.

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by texascowpunk on Jan 6, 2012 9:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Spliff break, Oh & a glass of water!!

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Chyt; cha aint seen the worst tilo youd seen the least - Henne to Marshall compleat two year descreption!

by wild zion beaver on Jan 14, 2012 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

draft dodger

man..2 de’s with the first 2 picks…im glad you arent the gm..what about te and another rb?

by paul wall 1962 on Jan 6, 2012 4:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Can never have too many good backs. Besides if Bush goes down, Thomas will be splitting carries with a guy off the PS.

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by PotM on Jan 6, 2012 4:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Also, we desperately need a pass rusher across from Wake.

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by PotM on Jan 6, 2012 4:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Mercilus is just as his name describes!! He is a beast!!

If the QB is not in play, then go defense pass rushers or playmakers on offense, TE or WR.

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by ct1361 on Jan 3, 2012 9:07 PM EST reply actions  

IMO, we can win with the WRs and TEs we have

We can still upgrade them, but they aren’t “needs”. We need a pass rusher. We have Wake and that’s it. We will have to get a pass rusher this off-season regardless. The two guys I picked can be used in a 4-3 or 3-4 set,

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by The Earl on Jan 3, 2012 9:12 PM EST up reply actions  

If you aren't going to try to plug a #1 TE in with Fasano then don't bother drafting one.

NY Jets = NFL's Chicago Cubs

There's a fine line between hopeful and desperate. Just look @ Jets fans.

by TheFinReaper on Jan 3, 2012 10:13 PM EST reply actions  

I like your pick for a late round TE but I personally believe we would be better off adding a guard or CB instead of a TE that has little chance of seeing the field (Especially if Brian Quick pans out) due to the guys in front of him.

Not a bad draft overall by any means.
Sorry, I meant to preview the first comment not to post it.

NY Jets = NFL's Chicago Cubs

There's a fine line between hopeful and desperate. Just look @ Jets fans.

by TheFinReaper on Jan 3, 2012 10:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Finley Olsen and Davis

are all fa. It’d probably be better to snag one.

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by Farorefox on Jan 4, 2012 12:15 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Didn't Olsen just sign a multi-year contract last offseason??

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by rintintinsoldier on Jan 4, 2012 6:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Vernon Davis??

Bring him in! He might take a bit of a discount in order to play with Vontae.

More of Moore in 2012!

Coples for our new 4-3!

'Phins phor Liphe!

by joel311 on Jan 4, 2012 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

There's a reason Luck is so good

Luck has one of the best o-lines and running games in the league. In terms of the Phins, when Moore has less than 3 sacks in a game, I think the Phins record is 6-0 (or close to that). That’s why I’d draft DeCastro or Reiff first round. Then Weeden at QB second round. Then either DE or CB third.

by Drumzan on Jan 3, 2012 10:20 PM EST reply actions  

Weeden?

Do people not realize this guy is 29 years old. That is a huge waste of a pick.

by kingmz on Jan 3, 2012 11:01 PM EST up reply actions  

This^^^

Miami's Superstars: Reggie Bush, Brandon Marshall, Jake Long, Mike Pouncey, Karlos Dansby, Cameron Wake, Vontae Davis and Sean Smith (just wait), Lebron James, Dwyane Wade, Chris Bosh, Mike Stanton, Gaby Sanchez, Hanley Ramirez, Josh Johnson, Heath Bell, Mark Buehrle, Jose Reyes, Tomas Fleischmann, Stephen Weiss, Jose Theodore, and Chris Versteeg. :)

by finzrule on Jan 3, 2012 11:16 PM EST up reply actions  

maybe we can get that place kicker from Fulkner University too....

http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-football/story/2011-09-06/61-year-old-vietnam-vet-becomes-unlikely-college-football-kicker

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by Phinphinatic on Jan 4, 2012 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

I'll stick with Carpenter :P

Good article though!

More of Moore in 2012!

Coples for our new 4-3!

'Phins phor Liphe!

by joel311 on Jan 4, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

But but but

John Beck?

More of Moore in 2012!

Coples for our new 4-3!

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by joel311 on Jan 4, 2012 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I would not blame Luck's success as a product of his line

Yes he has the blessing of a good line, but he is as good under pressure as in the pocket. The guy’s decision making is unreal.

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by BSerious72 on Jan 4, 2012 10:21 PM EST up reply actions  

So many good prospects at nine that fill neefs

I’ll straight up cut someone if we move back into the teens or 20s.

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by Farorefox on Jan 4, 2012 12:12 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Thats going to hurt your career a bit.

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by texascowpunk on Jan 4, 2012 4:19 AM EST up reply actions  

#oldcorps

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by Farorefox on Jan 6, 2012 6:09 AM EST up reply actions  

How does the front office and Ross justify to us..

If they don’t even try to address the QB position … again!!

We had [Brady] down… but we didn’t kick him. We helped him up and gave him a PowerPuff Girls band-aid for his knee. What exactly did you expect would happen when we did that?

by Jason Scott_90 on Jan 4, 2012 2:21 AM EST reply actions  

Not the point he was making. It was a draft what if. Like what if we already had a franchise QB.

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by texascowpunk on Jan 4, 2012 4:20 AM EST up reply actions  

If we don't pick up a quarterback in the first round, we have to use our pick wisely and pick an elite player.

So if it’s going to be a pass rusher, the guy has to be Quinton Coples. Having said that I really like Reynolds at RT, and had him in my mock draft a few weeks ago. Also like Ladarius Green, who I think will shoot up draft boards. He’s got the height at 6"6. He just needs to put on some more weight, without losing his speed. He’s already starting to do that, and has another 4 months to prove to scouts he can. Fasano has had a good year. Keep him and draft a prospect like Green to play opposite him, especially after the TE class is dwindling as Eiffert has decided to stay in school.

by BahamaDolfan on Jan 4, 2012 8:11 AM EST reply actions  

I like taking 2 OLBs early.

But I would prefer we axe Soliai and switch to a 4-3 and pick up Coples. Starks and Coples on the inside? Yes please.

More of Moore in 2012!

'Phins phor Liphe!

by joel311 on Jan 4, 2012 9:57 AM EST reply actions  

why bust up a 6th best defense in league joel?

by changing it drastically?

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by Phinphinatic on Jan 4, 2012 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Because we can't afford to pay Soliai 14.4 Million

for a season. He wants a gigantic contract that I don’t really feel he deserves. Besides, we already have players that would fit quite well in a 4-3 scheme. Starks did well when he moved to NT briefly, and I think he would be much more natural and effective as a 4-3 DT. Odrick was a DT in college, and I think he would be a much better pass rusher from the inside. Wake was a DE convert (I think Misi was too), so he already knows that position Canadian-wise and Coples would make that line unstoppable.

We need a better pass rush, and changing our scheme to suit our players is the best way to go about it. We are trying to force 4-3 players into a 3-4 system. It worked when Soliai started playing pretty well, but if we have a hole at NT, our entire defense is going to suffer tremendously.

Oh yeah, Tony McDaniel would be even better as a DT too. It’s what makes sense. You asked why mess with the “6th” best defense (although we sure as hell weren’t 6th in stats this year), but why settle for 6th?

More of Moore in 2012!

'Phins phor Liphe!

by joel311 on Jan 4, 2012 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

His cap number would actually be just short of 15 mil ($14,971,200) if we were to tag him again. WAY TOO STEEP!

And your correct hes asking for more then his worth. We need him but we need to weigh that against overpaying for him and screwing ourselves with the cap in the future.

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by texascowpunk on Jan 4, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

$14,971,200 is correct my mistake.

I calculated his slary next year at 120% of of 12.138 Million ratehr than 12.318 million by accident. Listen to Texas!

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by civwarbuff on Jan 4, 2012 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Way too much indeed.

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by joel311 on Jan 4, 2012 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

i have a question what does the Cap increase to in the NFL 2012 fiscal year?

In 2011 it was 142.5 million dollars with ancillary benefits included (worth 20 million) and the 2.5 million dollars alotted to clubs to take our of the benefit pool if the club elects to do that.

The floor is 108 million excluding incentives.

I don’t know however what the number increases to in 2012 if any under the new CBA.

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by civwarbuff on Jan 4, 2012 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I think if I remember correctly it does increase but the floor does not go in to effect until the 2013 season.

It was one of those things that the owners sort of slipped by the player (fine print and all) but in the end it does not seem if any teams really abused that fact.

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by texascowpunk on Jan 4, 2012 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Really?

I had read that the floor in 2011 was 108 million?

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by civwarbuff on Jan 4, 2012 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Here-

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/30/per-team-spending-minimum-doesnt-apply-until-2013/

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by texascowpunk on Jan 4, 2012 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

This also explains a bit how it works. Its not really a floor on the cap as much as a percentage

of monies that must be paid out based on that years revenues.


Remember, it’s not cap space but cash spent. So when a team like the Panthers gives defensive end Charles Johnson a $30 million signing bonus on a six-year deal, only $5 million counts against the cap — but $30 million counts against the league’s total spending requirement of $3.8 billion.

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by texascowpunk on Jan 4, 2012 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Except that Soliai isn't going to make 14.4 million dollars.

If we Franchise him again (which is completely out of the question) he would make in my calculations 14.782 million next season. Thats completely unacceptable for a situational player no matter how dominant he is. Im fine with the tag that we gave him this year, I think he earned it, but when you give a Franchise Tag you typically have no intention of that amount being his base salary over the course of a long term deal. Its a temporary fix and a reward for his contributions. If Soliai signs a long term (which he may not do until he tests the Free Agent market) we won’t pay him more than about 8 million dollars which I think is quite pricy for a player who only plays about half of our total defensive snaps. Now I disagree with people on this site that hasn’t played to the same level this season but the fact doesn’t change that with the amount of snaps you get from him (alot due to his presence and how other teams try to get him off the field with different personnel groupings) you can’t pay much more than that.

As for moving to the 4-3 I doubt it would happen as long as Mike Nolan is our coordinator. 4-3 is a good defense and it has its benefits but why would a coordinator change to a defensive scheme he has less expertise in?

As for the personnel I think we have the personnel to play the 4-3 if we made that decision with the addition of a great 4-3 Defensive End and another ILB. As of now though I believe resigning Soliai and adding to our 3-4 is easier.

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by civwarbuff on Jan 4, 2012 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

On those snaps that Soliai isn't on the field,

aren’t we running a 4-3 anyway? Wasn’t Denver a hybrid while Nolan was there? Aren’t we?

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by joel311 on Jan 4, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions  

When teams come out in 22 personnel, 12 or 21 personnel we come out in 3-4 typically

we carry multiple Nickel packages and Dime packages but not any 4-3 packages unless we are in a roving defense.

As for his use of hybrid defensive sets in Denver Im not sure. The Earl or Ct may know?

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by civwarbuff on Jan 4, 2012 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

or Texas?

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by civwarbuff on Jan 4, 2012 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Soliai is in for most of our defensive snaps.

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by PotM on Jan 6, 2012 5:00 PM EST up reply actions  

No he isn't, actually he sees about half of all defensive snaps.

How teams scheme and design personnel groupings with the intention of getting him off of the field and getting the Dolphins out of their base 3-4 package has been a major storyline this season.

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by civwarbuff on Jan 7, 2012 8:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Didnt mean for it to come out quite like that

just that I think you are ignoring alot of what happens to our team, what teams do to us, how they gameplan for us and especially what Soliai’s role has become due to what teams do to the Dolphins.

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by civwarbuff on Jan 7, 2012 11:20 AM EST up reply actions  

this possibly might be in our best interest

however if we trade up for a player like Luck or RG3 I’d say we try to retain everybody as much as possible….

If we get a rookie QB the last thing we want to do is rid of our best playmakers and make it more difficult to progress

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by BSerious72 on Jan 4, 2012 10:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey Joel have you seen Flip

seems like a long time since I have seen him.

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by civwarbuff on Jan 4, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions  

No,

thank God lol

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by joel311 on Jan 4, 2012 1:04 PM EST up reply actions  

He constantly accused me of saying something "in another post"

that wasn’t true. It was quite aggravating.

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by joel311 on Jan 4, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions  

You mean Coples and Odrick on the inside.

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by PotM on Jan 6, 2012 4:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Coples can play a 4-3 DE

We need outside rush help, not inside.

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by The Earl on Jan 6, 2012 9:01 PM EST up reply actions  

My point was Odrick > Starks when it comes to interior pass rush.

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by PotM on Jan 7, 2012 3:34 PM EST up reply actions  

True... we also need a big running stuffing DT if we play in the 4-3 too

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by The Earl on Jan 7, 2012 6:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I love the work you put it into this, and it was a good read but...

isn’t it really diificult to predict a trade in a mock draft? Especially with the current CBA. In the old CBA trades were far less likely (at least when moving into a high position in hte first round), granted they happened but not not all too often. There was simply too much risk factor for the club moving up. They were giving away other picks and possibly players as compensation (the higher they move the more they give) and are drafting a player who is slated too make 7, 8, 9, 10 million dollars annually depending upon what slot they move into coupled with an enormous percentage in gauranteed money. It isn’t like that anymore. Teams have far more incentive to move up in the draft but the risk is so much less in terms of base salary. It is also possible to remove a Quarterback from the discussion because even if the Dolphins decide that in no way will we draft a Quarterback there are teams all around us that are potential trade teams. In the preliminary order we have KC and Seattle at 11-12. And of the picks in front of us there are multiple suitors for franchise Quarterbacks including Indy (who obviously might trade out) Cleveland, Washington, and maybe even the Jaguars.

My point is this by the time the Dolphins are on the clock, even if Quarterback isn’t a consideration, the position will have affected the value of the pick. Its possible that we could see Luck, RG3, Landry Jones (and if they go right off the bat we could even see Ryan Tannehill gone). This drastically increases the value of the position because of the talent that would then be on the board. Thats three picks of 8, maybe 4. At 9 we could see Riley Reiff on the board, we could see Jonathan on the board, Dre Kirkpatrick and possibly even Morris Claiborne or Quinton Coples. Courtney Upshaw and Devon Still will both probably be still on the board in that scenario as well.

That is alot of talent to pass up and simply trade out and at vital positions, especially considering that we probably would have the Quarterback decided upon if we have no intention of taking one. At least I hope so.

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by civwarbuff on Jan 4, 2012 1:06 PM EST reply actions  

I definitely hope Coples falls to us.

I see us as an absolutely dominant 4-3 team. What do you think of my personnel analysis above?

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by joel311 on Jan 4, 2012 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

A couple of things...

You are right about the trade stuff. Trading up will be easier now. But for this post, I just used the trade value chart and went with a team that might trade up to get a LT. Plus throwing in a first for next year is a pricey trade piece too. So it’s hard to predict a trade, but it’s practical for this post.

As for the players you mentioned, we have bigger needs than CB and DTs. Kirkpatrick and Claiborne might still be there, but we really have other needs to fill first. We could stand to upgrade Smith, but it’s not a priority like pass rusher is (where we have nothing) You can completely rule out Still as we don’t need another 3-4 DE/4-3DT. Upshaw is mostly a 3-4 guy and Coples is a 4-3 guy only. That’s why I went with more versatile pass rushers who can be effective in any front.

I know that we need a RT, but everyone is overreacting to that situation. RTs don’t have the same positional value as pass rushers, and we can likely get a good RT in free agency. The issue is that fans have watched Colombo play the position as about as bad as it can be played. Of course, the fans freak out and start clamoring for a first round RT. And that would be nice, except it’s a luxury we can’t afford. The truth is that a team can win with just an average RT. You don’t NEED an elite RT. In my draft, if Reynolds simply becomes average, that would be fine. Fans are overreacting to Colombo and they are forgetting that Koa Misi is the Marc Colombo of OLBs. He’s terrible. He’s OK at stopping the run, but he rarely gets pressure. If our starting RT goes down, we can make do with depth. If Cameron Wake goes down, we have nothing. Let’s say the “1st round RT” get their way and we don’t get a QB, draft a RT and Moore doesn’t get the job done. Wake gets hurt and suddenly teams are lighting us up because we have no pass rush. You know what they will say next year? “We need to draft this pass rusher or that pass rusher. We can’t get a QB because the pass rush needs to be addressed first.”

It’s a never-ending cycle with these discussions. And they could be ended if more fans understood need and positional value. Yes, we need a RT, but we also need pass rushers. Pass rushers are more valuable than right tackles (that’s why they get paid more). We can be more than successful with an average RT (not bottom of the barrel Colombo-types). With my draft (if those picks panned out) would set up the front 7 for the next decade, give us a good player at RT, and allows us to be super aggressive in the next draft going for a QB if we need it. If we don’t need a QB in 2013, THEN we can draft the lower valued positions.

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by The Earl on Jan 4, 2012 7:25 PM EST up reply actions  

A quick thing...

Claiborne is much better than any pass rusher in this draft though. The chance to get a duo like Davis/Claiborne would be very enticing. The only thing that would allow me to pass over Claiborne and traded down is if they were able to get Janoris Jenkins with their 2nd round pick. I will say it now. If Miami gets Jenkins with their 2nd rounder now, their draft will be deemed an instant success and may be a boon depending on how their first rounder does. Jenkin is a probably 2nd round pick that may be top 15 and very close to Claiborne if he was still a Gator.

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by Finhead83 on Jan 4, 2012 7:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Ok first thing, I cant tell if you are irritated with me in this comment. If you are I had no intention of criticizing your post and I think the content is very good...

I was simply detailing the dangers of using trades in a mock draft. As for the players I mentioned I should have articulated what I was trying to say more clearly. I was using those players as an example of how much talent coul potentially fall to number nine if we have a run of Quarterbacks above where the Dolphins pick which is very possible. Who falls to nine and who doesn’t drastically changes the value of our pick both in terms of who we can take, and in what can be gotten for it via trade. I understand that Quinton Coples, a 4-3 Defensive End with no experience at the Outside Linebacker postion or at Defensive Tackle would never be drafted by a 3-4 team. I also understand that it is unlikely that he will be available at nine, as I have a very hard time seeing him get by Jacksonville, but if he is on the board our pick is more valuable in trade terms just as our pick is more valuable if Claiborne or Kirkpatrick are still on the board as well as Reiff and Martin. If they are gone, and we have the Quarterback postion already secured (or decided upon) then we are in more of a jam because teams will feel less pressured to A. move up now and secure a Quarterback in a quickly dwindling class or B. move up to take talent that has fallen farter than anticipated. Thats what I was saying.

You said you understood this but predictated a trade with the Bears anyways. Thats fine.

As for positional value, The Earl believe me I understand positional value and I know how badly the team needs to generate pass-rush, however there is another factor to this. That is that the Dolphins (alot like the Chiefs personnel-wise and schematically excluding the use of safeties) are unusual for a 3-4 team in that we rely upon our Olb’s and our Defensive Ends to generate pass rush. Its how the team is constructed and with only one phenomenal pass rushing outside Linebacker without the pressure Starks and now Odrick generate the team is in trouble. Alot like Kansas City. With that said though of course I understand our need a tOLB and how vital the postion is.

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by civwarbuff on Jan 5, 2012 7:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Nah man, your comment was good. I was just responding

We have a lot of needs that must be filled, and IMO, pass rusher is our biggest non-QB need. We have no pass rush other than Wake. While there could be very talented players that fall to 9 (I would think serious about drafting Claiborne). But we have to get at least 2 pass rushers either through the draft or a combo of draft and FA. Misi just isn’t getting pressure and all we have after them is Trusnik. I’d rather address the pass rusher position before addressing the RT or CB position. We can get an effective upgrade for Colombo in the 3rd round (seriously, how hard can it be to replace him? LOL)

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by The Earl on Jan 5, 2012 8:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I completely agree that Pass rush at Outside Linebacker is vital and we can only generate it from one player.

As for OLB’s on the roster we have four though not three with JT’s retirement. Both Jason Trusnik and Ikaika Alama-Francis are behind Wake and Misi on the active roster. As for Misi I understand that he doesn’t generate much for a pass-rush perspective, and its very dissapointing in that the team spent a second round pick on a guy he is a rotational player and has a sever limitation at his position. As a whole though I think he is a pretty good player. He is smart, he understands different offensive sets (and even will make alignment changes on occasion), he is a very good edge setter and probably the most valuable thing he offers are his abilities in space. As you have probably noticed whenever the Dolphins get caught in a bad personnel grouping (in this case usually in the 3-4 against a three wide set) which can happen in the no huddle on occasion especially if they send a back out wide, Misi gets the responsibilty and a few times this season he has had that terrible matchup in space and held his own. In the past game against the Jets on one play in the no huddle he actually got matchup up in man coverage against I believe LT flanked wide. The play was a 10 yard reception but Misi played it well considering the matchup and made an open field tackle. So I like him, he is disciplined, he is a good edge setter and tackler, we use him in lots of different coverages, he understand these concepts and he makes plays in space. However obviously he doesn’t generate much in the pass rush, he doesn’t get off blocks very well and he isn’t very fast. I like him, but I understand where you are coming from because he is a mixed bag and there have been plenty of times particularly this year that I wished he was farther a long than he is as a pass rusher. Our Olb situation is another reason I compare our defense to the Chiefs alot. We really measure up with KC on defense as very similar. Doesn’t Misi remind of Andy Studebaker? As for Trusnik he got a fair amount of defensive snaps this year but he is kind of a non-entity and he isn’t a great ST’s player anyways. Alama-Francis was barely active all year. So despite me liking, Misi we agree that our OLB position is a dead-zone heading into the offseason.

As for Colombo, our management made a huge mistake in judgement thinking thay Colombo would solidify the hole at RT after Carey was moved to Tackle, however to be fair he does do some things well. First off granted he struggles mightily in pass protection and his limitations against the bull rush and basic pass rush techniques is infuriating but it is impressive how fast he moves into his kick slide and how quickly he can close ground despite his 6-8 build. He also isn’t terrible at the point of attack, he is very strong and he plays with good leverage. But he has no vision whatsoever, he can’t block in zone schemes at all IMO and he is horrendous at the second level.

Both are big needs and I know that pass-rush is more vital not only because RT is less important than Pass rush from Olb but also because we have far more depth at Tackle with Lydon Murtha, John Jerry and Colombo who isn’t all too expensive.

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by civwarbuff on Jan 6, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

trade down to the late teens get this years #1(pick up a 1st or 2nd for next year) or a second & posible 5th this years draft trade down again to late 20's.

Lol; pick up a second this draft & third next years draft, then trade all the way out of the first.for next years #1 this years 2nd & next years 3rd!

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by wild zion beaver on Jan 6, 2012 5:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Ok Beav.

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by civwarbuff on Jan 7, 2012 8:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Clean sweep !

Trade all add Starks Take Luck!

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by wild zion beaver on Jan 7, 2012 9:56 AM EST up reply actions  

The Beaver is too much of a thinking man to base his thoughts on Madden.

Beaver for GM!

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by texascowpunk on Jan 7, 2012 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

No reprizels!

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by wild zion beaver on Jan 8, 2012 3:52 AM EST up reply actions  

I just want a job with the organization when you go big time.

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by texascowpunk on Jan 8, 2012 11:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Exzakly: it wont be a walk through!

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by wild zion beaver on Jan 8, 2012 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

I have some solid ideas.

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by texascowpunk on Jan 8, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Every one has a thought umm a clue err a retard aria!

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by wild zion beaver on Jan 8, 2012 5:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Trust me!

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by texascowpunk on Jan 8, 2012 5:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh yeah u no i do!

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by wild zion beaver on Jan 8, 2012 11:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh now that we have that out of the way heres the plan.............................

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by texascowpunk on Jan 8, 2012 11:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Please in coeded chuctaw, this way the trolls will never find out!

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by wild zion beaver on Jan 9, 2012 12:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah ok. I will have to study up real fast.

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by texascowpunk on Jan 9, 2012 1:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Sounds as if i know that my dabbleing in the language is a plus!

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by wild zion beaver on Jan 9, 2012 7:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Good read.

My only gripe is that you didn’t address the secondary at all. I’d like a playmaking FS, but if there isn’t one there in the 2nd or 3rd then I’d like to see a CB somewhere between the 4th and 7th.

I think we “may” already have 1 or 2 potential FS’s on our roster, but it will mean moving Wilson or Smith from CB. Worse case scenario is we have another guy to push Smith for playing time.

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by MMANDIA on Jan 4, 2012 1:53 PM EST reply actions  

Jovan Olafioye

this is a guy who played a year in the CFL for the BC lions played the tackle and guard and if we can get a guy like this you can use that 83 pick on the secondary

by 604finsfan on Jan 4, 2012 2:01 PM EST reply actions  

I don't think Mercilus is valued well at 19.

He’d probably be available in the 2nd. If we were to trade down and grab an OLB in the first, I would expect any combination of Courtney Upshaw or Zach Brown. Melvin Ingram could climb from a 2nd round to a first round prospect as well after the Combine when his times blow people away.

Wiley piles up a lot of sacks, but a lot of people don’t like him because he gives up on his assignments to try and get a sack. He’s also not good in coverage and unless he becomes more disciplined with his assignments, teams will run right where he was supposed to be and he’ll hurt our run defense.

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by Finhead83 on Jan 4, 2012 4:11 PM EST reply actions  

I remain completely baffled

as to how concentrating all of our high picks on defense will solve any of the problems of a team with a strong defense and a weak offense.

by PNSter on Jan 4, 2012 5:15 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

You have to look what we truly "need", not want

We have zero pass rushers outside of Wake… NONE. Misi is not a pass rusher and Trusnik is a ST player only. Yeah, it would be nice to get a first round TE or RT, but we need to enhance the pass rush.

And the biggest issue with the offense is at QB… which was specifically avoided in this post.

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by The Earl on Jan 4, 2012 7:04 PM EST up reply actions  

What the should to do is...

Keep trading back, picking up 2013 picks each time until they have 3-4 2013 1sts, 3-4 2013 2nds, and 3-4 2013 3rds… They can make the playoffs in 2012 with better qb play, weaker schedule, and better coaching. This also gives this regime a full year to evaluate talent, then in 2013 they build a dynasty!!!

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