Miami Dolphins Offseason Options with Free Agency and Mock Draft
Miami is about to embark on the most important off-season period in the last decade of the franchise's storied history. The book has been closed on yet another chapter of the post Shula Era. We went from 1-15 with a thoroughly unprepared former OC who was trying out the head coach job for the first time to bringing in a new OC turned head coach to try to right the ship. That strategy failed despite the guidance of Bill Parcells. Now we are trying a hybrid of the last two hires with Ireland joining the hotshot OC turned head coach. The biggest things that doomed Cameron were pathetic talent acquisition and bass-ackward, uber-conservative coaching. The talent acquisition was certainly improved during Sparano's time at the helm but the poor coaching strategy continued which took us from 1-15 to a combined 31-35 (Including playoffs). I have no doubt that Philbin will be different on the coaching front and we will soon get an idea of the talent acquisitions in the next 3 months. So let's take a look at some options for the 2012 Miami Dolphins.
SUMMARY (For those that don't want to read almost 6,000 words)
Signed Matt Flynn, Reggie Nelson, a starting Guard, our RFAs (Hilliard and Murtha), Tyrone Culver and maybe Phillip Merling in free agency. Sign Jake Long, Randy Starks, Tony McDaniel and Richie Incognito to contract extensions. Draft Melvin Ingram (DE/3-4OLB), Mike Adams (OT), Tommy Streeter (WR), Casey Hayward (CB), Jerry Franklin (MLB), Chris Rainey (RB/WR) and Derek Moye (WR). We sign undrafted free agents Case Keenum (QB), Jeff Adams (OT) and Josh Chichester (TE).
FREE AGENCY
Miami's current salary cap standing is a tricky subject. Varying figures are all over the web ranging from $108 million to as much as $114.3 million. I have attempted to independently verify the numbers presented by NJYetscap.com and found them to be accurate for the most part. I found 2 players numbers to be under listed (Dansby & Bush) and several players to be over listed (Bonus money too high) and have yet to find details on 7 others (Incognito, Gates, Thomas, Trusnik, Pruitt, McDaniel & Pouncey). Given that the numbers appear to be higher than the actual, I have corrected the lower numbers for Dansby and Bush and got a salary against the cap of $110, 242, 752. Until otherwise discredited I am going to round that number up to $111 million and use that as a launching point.
We can use exceptions to get to a cap of around $123.4 million without renegotiating a single contract. This gives us a minimum free cap space of $12.4 million right out of the gate. If Jeff Ireland isn't the douche that many Phins fans think he is then he will spend some time freeing up more money by negotiating contract extensions. The principle guys to extend now are Jake Long and Richie Incognito with Randy Starks, Sean Smith, Y. Bell and Fasano as options. It will be interesting to see how Ireland tries to structure these deals to create cap space for 2012. Finhead has pointed out how the salary cap is expected to increase for the 2013 season but it is unknown by how much so some light treading is advisable.
Before we can start drooling over new players to pick up in free agency, we must first consider setting aside money for incoming draft picks and unsigned free agents. For the most part undrafted free agents take care of themselves since several of our players currently under contract will be cut before the end of the league year and won't have bonus money to consider (Futures contracts like Marcus Thigpen) but we should set aside at least $5 million to sign the draft picks (Our draft picks from last season totaled $4.387 million against the cap this coming year but that was only for the 5 players we kept). This puts us up to $116 million before any negotiations begin.
Obviously whatever positions are deepest in the draft should be the lowest priority in free agency and a franchise QB is a big need for Miami so Peyton Manning and Matt Flynn will dictate our external free agency direction and we won't try to sign a high priced free agent if a suitable alternative exists in the draft. The deepest positions in the draft are CB, WR, DE, OT, and DT. We are in need of a CB, DE, and OT so these should be among the first 4 draft picks we make. Remember this for later. How about QB, FS/SS, OG, and TEs? Not so much. There are up to six top 3 round talent at QB, 8 at Guard, 5 at TE and 3 each of FS and SS.This really means we have to leverage our free agency by true needs.
TE - So long as we aren't drafting a TE, Fasano and Clay should be out TE corps in 2012. I would love to see Jermichael Finley here in but it would be big bucks we need to devote to more pressing needs. Besides, Tyler Eifert (Notre Dame) should be available to us next year and he should be a suitable replacement for Fasano.
FS/SS - This boils down to what do we do with Yeremiah Bell. If we cut Bell to free up cap space, Reshad Jones should have little trouble sliding over to SS but this leaves big question marks at FS with Culver and Clemons. Both positions are fairly thin in the draft so we would be wise to either sign a FS or a SS that we an bring in for $4.3 million or less. Preferably, Kevin Coyle can convince Reggie Nelson to bring his talents to South Beach Davie for $3 million or less in 2012. If we signed Nelson to a 5yr/$13 mil contract with a $5 mil signing bonus and a $2 million roster bonus to kick in in 2015 ($20 mil total) we could structure that for a minimum pay day in 2012. Break the salary down as follows: Yr 1: $1.5 mil, Yr 2: $1.75 mil, Yr 3: $2.25 mil, Yr 4: $3.5 mil + $2 mil roster bonus, Yr 5: $4 mil. Now add $1 million a year for the prorated signing bonus and we could replace Bell's $4.3 million cap hit for $2.5 mil in 2012 thus freeing up $1.8 million. Guaranteeing $6 million of the salary and the $5 mil bonus should just about convince Nelson to come here but we could go a little bit higher if need be.
OG - We have the option of trying to bring back Vernon Carey, signing a later draft pick or going after one of the big name guards in free agency. If we do sign a free agent QB, you can kiss Nicks and Grubbs goodbye. The best options here are Jake Scott or bringing back Carey (hopefully he gives us a hometown discount to make it easier).
QB - This will all but certainly take up the overwhelming majority (If not all) of the remaining cap space since neither Manning nor Flynn will come cheap. Flynn could probably be had for similar to Kolb's money which will get him around $4 to $5 million in 2012 but the cost will shoot up in 2013 and likely push $10 million. Still, if we can get Flynn for $5 million in 2012 and Nelson for the contract listed above, we would have taken on $7.5 million in new salaries but would have shed $4.3 million (Bell) for a total increase of $3.2 million in 2012.
Remember we started out with $12.4 million to work with using only a base exception that is available to every team this season. We can also carry over cap savings from 2011 to apply to 2012. I will low ball this estimate to cover the bases and attribute another $2 million (I would be stunned if the number wasn't double that) to our cap space. This now gives us $11.2 million free space ($12.4 mil +$2 mil carry over + $4.3 savings for cutting Bell - $5 mil for Kolb and $2.5 for nelson) . Before everyone gets giddy with excitement over signing some more big names with that $11.2 mil, remember those salaries are going up in 2013 and some space will be needed to cover the increase. We could still attempt to sign a guard like Jake Scott or attempt to bring in Jermichael Finley (If he was interested) but this would be up to which was more important and only if we sign Flynn instead of Manning.
Bearing in mind we still have our own free agents to retain, we would need to resign guys like Langford and perhaps Carey and Phillip Merling (for cheap). Our RFAs (Hilliard, Murtha) should come back on the cheap (<$3 mil combined in 2012). So to recap, we sign Matt Flynn, Reggie Nelson, an Offensive Guard (Likely Carey or Scott but Nicks could potentially be had), our RFAs, Kendall Langford and possibly Merling (If he signs Cheap) and Tyrone Culver for DB depth. We will all but surely try to extend the contracts of Jake Long, Incognito and Starks.
DRAFT
As mentioned earlier, we need to upgrade where the upgrading is good and that means CB, DE, and OT are a must in the draft. We are going to run a heavy dose of 4-3 next year in all liklihood since we already did it nearly half the time in 2011. However, if Coyle does utilize a hybrid scheme he will want a DE that can also stand up and act as a 3-4 OLB. Our CB depth is pathetic. Our best hope for nickel CB (Unless we re-sign W. Allen) is Jimmy Wilson. Clemons or Culver would be involved in the dime. We would be very wise to take advantage of the unreal depth at CB in this draft. There are easily 16-18 3rd round or better talents at CB in this draft so getting one in round 3 is not implausible.We have to find an anchor on that right side to complement Jake Long and solidify a stout O-line. I am going to assume we lose the coin toss to Carolina and pick 9th for the purposes of this mock. Bearing all of this in mind here we go.
ROUND 1 - Pick #9: Melvin Ingram (DE/3-4 OLB - South Carolina)
Quentin Coples is a beast and has lit up Mobile, AL these last 7 days but he may not fall to #9 with the emphasis on pass pressure that is going to be so prevalent this off season in the NFL. Ingram is lighting up the senior bowl this week as well and with the success of the Giants, Texans and others via pass rush there is less and less chance of trading back and still landing Ingram as each day progresses so we will have to take him here. The other big options here are Courtney Upshaw and Whitney Mercilus. My final choice would be based on the measurables, Senior Bowl performances, College Careers and if all are even available at #9. Right now I have it as Coples, Ingram, Mercilus then Upshaw. Since Coples is the highest touted and I don't expect all 4 to make it to #9, I will go with Ingram here over Mercilus and Upshaw.
ROUND 2 - Pick #42: Mike Adams (OT - Ohio State)
In Round 2, Miami can go with either a RT, CB, QB, WR or TE. For all the talk of drafting Tennehill (Due to the hiring of Sherman) or Weeden as a future franchise QB, I can't see us burning a pick on any of the flawed QBs in round 2 when we will have Matt Moore as a backup this season and our starter locked up in free agency. I want Coby Fleener. I'll say it again, I want Coby Fleener. If he is here I would pick him. We don't have to cut Fasano if we draft Fleener but if we get Fleener and he proves capable of replacing Fasano, we can trade or cut Fasano by the end of the year and save over $3.5 million against the cap. The dirty little cap secret is we don't have to be under the cap until the end of the year so this is a tantalizing option. The other option is to shore up the O-line with our new RT. I like Zebrie Saunders but he looks like he needs time to refine his game against pass rushers. I like Nate Potter but he will need to show he can handle both facets of the game and he will need to show up to the combine over 300 lbs. Depending on the workouts at the combine, this pick will switch between Adams, Saunders, Potter or possibly Matt Reynolds (Potter being my preference) but if Fleener is here then the point is moot (At least for me).
ROUND 3 - Pick #73: Tommy Streeter (WR - Go Canes!)
Note: If we did get Fleener in Round 2, this automatically becomes a RT. We've addressed many holes by now (QB, FS, OG, DE, OT or TE) but we have got to get another WR if we are going to run an effective West Coast style offense. Streeter is about 6'3.5" tall and has some big ups to get those high lobs in the red zone. Streeter is still fairly raw at his route running but can stretch the field vertically or sit down in a zone opposite Marshall. The mood around here seems to be the Hartline needs to be replaced. I don't agree with that but Streeter is a prospect that can become an effective #2 opposite Marshall or fall into a 4 wide set with success so I will take him here. Besides, I'm a Canes fan and I have liked what I have seen from him this year. This pick is dependent on the CB prospects but I want Ryan Steed or Casey Hayward and both may very well slip to round 4.
ROUND 4 - Pick # 105: Casey Hayward (CB - Vanderbilt) or Ryan Steed (CB - Furman)
We've addressed many holes by now (QB, FS, OG, DE, OT or TE) but we have got to get another CB. How many times did we here announcers talk about needing 5 CBs on a team today? We currently have Davis, Smith, Carroll, Wilson and some camp bodies. We need a capable CB to leap frog at least Carroll or Wilson. Hayward is a versatile CB that can play both man and zone and can press and play run defense. Hayward has some ball hawk in him as well. Hayward ranked 1st in the SEC (3rd in NCAA) in passes defensed among CBs and was 2nd in the SEC (5th in NCAA) in INTs with 6. Hayward has the potential to actually leap frog Sean Smith so drafting him to serve as a nickel CB is a great choice. Steed has turned Mobile into his own showcase of his skills. Coming from an FCS school already raises questions but Steed's skills speak for themselves. Some scouts even rank Steed higher than Hayward but I would go with Hayward over Steed. If Steed hadn't raised his stock above round 5, I would've drafted them both. Depending on who you ask Hayward can go anywhere from round 2 to round 4 (Even potentially early round 5) and Steed can go anywhere from round 2 to round 4 but if their stock has them both going before Pick 100, then 1 gets picked at #73. If we take a CB over Streeter in Round 3 we can get a WR here or even later.
ROUND 5 - ~Pick #137: Jerry Franklin (ILB - Arkansas)
Round 5 is where Ireland likes to find diamonds in the rough and I doubt anyone accurately mocks his choice for round 5 but we could use this pick to double up on an earlier position here. I could see a WR prospect here but right now I don't see any sure 5th rounders that will be worth using a pick on. For me this pick comes down to one of 2 things, O-Line depth and 4-3 LB. Most are speculating that Dansby and Burnett will be OLBs and Koa Misi will man the Middle. No disrespect to Koa but I don't think he is quick enough to be a great MLB. In his 37 games Franklin has collected 281 tackles, 21.5 for loss, 9.5 sacks, seven quarterback hurries, 10 pass breakups, five interceptions, two forced fumbles and four fumble recoveries. Jerry's 40 time is projected to be 0.15 seconds faster than the time Misi put in at the combine in 2010. If Franklin can exceed Misi's performance in the 3-cone, Shuttle, and 10 yard splits than he is a no-brainer here as he provides an upgraded starter at best and some needed depth at worst.
ROUND 6 - ~Pick #187 (From Saints): Chris Rainey (RB/WR/PR - Florida)
This pick may have some scratching their heads but I see major potential for offensive mismatches with Rainey. Rainey is a speedy son of a gun who should post a sub-4.40 time in Indy. Rainey has the potential to line up at any skill position and could be a linebacker's nightmare on 3rd downs. At the least, Rainey is a mismatch. At the best, Rainey can become what most expected Reggie Bush to be. Rainey won't ever be a #1 RB but he could be a fine #2 RB/scat back. If Rainey comes along at a strong pace, we may not fall off too much from not retaining Reggie Bush (It's a possibility so don't go crazy, I'm not suggesting it happens). should that happen.
ROUND 7 - ~Pick #205: Derek Moye (WR - Penn State)
Okay put simply, there are no great positions of need and the linemen that are left are all pretty similar and one can be had as an undrafted free agent. Red Zone Threat with above average hands posted 16.7 yards/catch (2nd best in Big 10) that can potentially serve as a #4 WR. Maybe Moye can manage to unseat Hartline but I doubt it improves us that much (even though some seem to believe Hartline is a big handicap).
UNDRAFTED FREE AGENTS
Case Keenum (QB - Houston) Case Keenum posted phenom like numbers at Houston and could easily surpass Devlin as the #3 QB.
Jeff Adams (OT - Columbia) Raw measurables but can be coached to provide depth on the O-line.
Josh Chichester (TE - Louisville) Converted WR (Legit 6'7" and 240 lbs) that could provide a pass catching threat but will have to show a blocking prowess to make practice squad.
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Good Article!
I like all the details of the salary cap. Its a good draft. I like the siging of Keenum. Miami could use a QB to groom, and competition is always good. Rainey would also be a good pickup.
No mention
of Soliai, I agree we cannot tie up $12m (or even close to that) in him. It seems to be a forgone conclusion he will leave via FA. That is OK, I think it is time for Tony McDaniel to take a more active roll here. When he is on the field it seems something good almost always happens – same as it used to with David Bowens – who is still playing by the way.
good post
but i do agree with soliai being cut that would free up alot of cap room and if we go to a 4-3 it wouldnt hurt us
Bring me some exciting moves this offseason
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by Mr.Phintastic on Jan 29, 2012 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
Solial's contract is up, him going does not give more caps space as he doesn't have a contract to take cap space away to begin with
Not signing Soliai saves us money that would count against the cap and eliminate our ability to sign a quality Guard in free agency.
NY Jets = NFL's Chicago Cubs
There's a fine line between hopeful and desperate. Just look @ Jets fans.
by TheFinReaper on Jan 29, 2012 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
Oh yeah, definitely. I just got the impression that people think 'cutting' him will add extra cap space that the dolphins didn't have before..
It's rarely distinguished what people mean when they say He'll save us money by leaving. He did mean what you thought though since he said CUTting Soliai. I just wanted there to be full clarification for everyone else.
NY Jets = NFL's Chicago Cubs
There's a fine line between hopeful and desperate. Just look @ Jets fans.
by TheFinReaper on Jan 29, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry there is no mention of Soliai, but there is a reason for that. Soliai is a fine 3-4 NT but he would see tremendous dropoff at 4-3 DT and we are already very strong at DT so Soliai would be a very expensive commodoity that we don't need.
Remember that we have tried Starks as a 3-4 NT before and on hybrid plays he could shift more over the center.
NY Jets = NFL's Chicago Cubs
There's a fine line between hopeful and desperate. Just look @ Jets fans.
by TheFinReaper on Jan 29, 2012 1:03 PM EST up reply actions
Tim Bowens?
I remember David Bowens … but only briefly.. he didn’t make that much of an impact.. did he?
We had [Brady] down… but we didn’t kick him. We helped him up and gave him a PowerPuff Girls band-aid for his knee. What exactly did you expect would happen when we did that?
by Jason Scott_90 on Jan 29, 2012 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
I like it but...
I would prefer Quinton Coples in the first if we can’t get RGIII
I'd be happy if
We cut Columbo, cut Carey and cut Soliai, drafted Reiff in the first and Tannehill in the second to develop. I don’t think they had a very high opinion of Devlin’s work and progress on the PS since they wouldn’t make him the number two and signed Rosenfels/Losman, so I can see him being cut or picked up by someone else. We can sign a FA pass rusher and Manning and he’d be protected behind an amazing O-line.
Hail To The King, Baby!!!!
by SergeHimself on Jan 29, 2012 12:22 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Nice article.
As an alternative, if we do go through a QB through the draft instead of FA I would love it if we signed a top notch pass rusher like Avril or Mario Williams.
Also Matt Reynolds is projected to be a 4th round pick. I do love this guy, but is he agile enough to play in a high tempo offence? I like Mosely at RT as an alternative in the 3rd, esp if we use our 2nd to trade up for griffin.
And Ladarius Greene in the 4th…the guy is gold!!
Wait until after the pro days. I tried to project with a little forethought for the combine and pro day performances. I expect Reynolds to increase his stock. Whether or not he presses for 2nd round I can only guess.
I’m also fine with Mosely as over Reynolds depending on who is available where. I’m still leaning towards Potter but right now I have to go with Adams in Round 2 to be the new RT.
If we use our second to trade up for Griffin it will be the gamble of a lifetime. I just don’t see it happening. It might happen, but I don’t think Ireland will wait until the draft this year for a QB. It’s too important to his future this time.
I passed on Ledarius Green because I think we will look to next season’s draft class to upgrade Fasano. However, If Green can show up to his pro day at 250 lbs or better he will almost surely get picked in round 3 instead of Streeter or in Round 4 with Hayward or Steed going in Round 3. I think he would be an awesome pick but I also think he might go before we can get him (I expect him to dazzle at his pro day.
NY Jets = NFL's Chicago Cubs
There's a fine line between hopeful and desperate. Just look @ Jets fans.
by TheFinReaper on Jan 29, 2012 1:23 PM EST up reply actions
Franchise Soliai!
With Soliai making the pro bowl, I would franchise soliai and trade him for draft picks!!!
Nobody is going to trade for a $15 million NT. They will sooner sign Pouha from the Jets without having to trade away anything..
NY Jets = NFL's Chicago Cubs
There's a fine line between hopeful and desperate. Just look @ Jets fans.
by TheFinReaper on Jan 29, 2012 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
My mock...
1. Melvin Ingram – DE
2. Mike Adams – OT
3. Brandon Boykin – CB
4. Joe Adams – WR
5. Kirk Cousins – QB
6. Chris Rainey – RB
7. Mitchell Schwartz – OT
I'm starting to like Coples better.
Ingram is a beast though. Mike Adams and Boykin won’t last past the second round. Cousins is probably a third round guy.
Boykin may slip to the third
especially since he injured himself and reports having him recovering anywhere from 3-6 weeks, should be healthy by combine but injury will slide him down a few notches. I agree Mike Adams probably won’t be there in the 2nd many don’t have him making it out of the 1st round after his performance at the senior bowl.
by kermit the frogger29 on Jan 29, 2012 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
This is almost exactly what I was thinking
only I would try to trade down with Cincinnati acquiring their 2nd round pick (53) and fourth round pick (116) and a player.
1 (17) – Melvin Ingram DE
2 (42) – Zebrie Sanders OT
2 (53) – Vinny Curry DE
3 (73) – Brandon Boykin CB
4 (103) – Micheal Egnew TE
4 (116) – Joe Adams WR/KR
5 – LB (best value)
6 – QB/S (best value)
7 – RB/OG (best value)
by kermit the frogger29 on Jan 29, 2012 3:45 PM EST up reply actions
Really like that mock
but I don’t think Cousins will be there in the fifth and I personally don’t want any of these second and third tier QBs because they don’t look ready. Maybe going safety or TE would be better.
I got S + What a Dog's Tail Does.
One of them "Young Guns"
I don't disagree
But it’s not necessarily about picking a starter. It’s about getting a developmental QB. Devlin will never be an NFL QB. The Phins need somebody with upside as the 3rd stringer.
Kellen Moore would be an excellent pickup in the late rounds. Pro Draft scouts don't like him because he's short, played for Boise State, and hasn't got a great arm. They want a 6' 5'' numpty with a rocket arm, sounds pretty gay.
Moore won nearly every game in college, you can’t coach winning. He has excellent awareness and accuracy and would be perfect for the WC. He may never be able to throw the pro out, but neither could Joe Montana!
Did you watch the senior bowl?
Moore is not going to get drafted and if he is it will surely be in the 7th round. Remember Pat White won nearly every game in College but that doesn’t always translate to the NFL.
by kermit the frogger29 on Jan 29, 2012 3:51 PM EST up reply actions
I did watch the senior bowl, but Moore would be playing in a different system than he played in the senior bowl with someone who can actually snap a ball. The senior bowl is also only one game.
He would be an excellent qb to develop for the WC system as he can get the ball out of his hands quickly with good awareness and accuracy. Flynn went in the 7th round because of height and arm strength and is now an excellent qb.
Very good points
and although I agree that he may excell in Philbin WC offense or anyone’s WC offense for that matter, I still feel that he will be limited by his size. Also the West Coast offense needs a QB that has the arm strength to drive the ball downfeild and keep defense honest if not they will stack 8 in box on you every time. If you watch him on tape the first thing you see is he throws ALOT of soft “rainbow” throws that will not last in the NFL. West Coast offense also works to it’s full potential with a QB that has good (doesn’t have to be great) mobility, Moore has neither (again if you watch him in game situation he can not evade pressure). And probably the BIGGEST knock against him for me is that he has a tendency to pre-determine what reciever he is going to throw to and doesn’t read thru his progressions properly (in other words he stares down his recievers like Chad Henne). Even though I agree with you that he was playing with a shitty center in the senior bowl, you have to remember that one of the only times Moore lined up under center was during a bowl game, he fumbled that one.
Truth be told I like Moore and I think that he’ll make an execellent QB coach one day just like Ken Dorsey is doing over in Carolina.
by kermit the frogger29 on Jan 29, 2012 5:16 PM EST up reply actions
The whole point of the west coast is to open up the deep passes, his arm isn't THAT bad, its just not good enough in an ordinary offense.
I see a lot of plays where he goes through his progressions and makes his second or 3rd read. But his awareness is so good he already knows who will be open most of the time which is pretty much what West Coast QBs are expected to do. His size and elusiveness is a problem though, but if you look at what Philbin has done for Flynn, you’ll see that Flynn is now excellent at stepping up in the pocket. Drafting a late round qb is a crapshoot, but I feel Moore is the better qb for the WCO what will be available, and he’s low risk. I’d also like to add that in lots of plays RG3 doesn’t go past his first read either (and we all know how hot he is), if its not open soon enough he rolls out to the right nearly everytime to give it time and very rarely makes a 2nd/3rd read throw, most college qbs don’t go through their progressions, that’s why they need to be coached before they play well in the NFL.
At the end of the day no one know for sure what Moore is going to be
and if the Dolphins selected him in the 7th or picked him up in FA I wouldn’t be upset with that at all. Now if they wasted a pick on him in the 5th or higher then I would have problems. All in all, I agree with you, with the right system and the right coaches to teach him the system Moore may turn into a pretty decent NFL QB.
by kermit the frogger29 on Jan 29, 2012 8:48 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
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by wild zion beaver on Jan 30, 2012 12:00 AM EST up reply actions
Tightend
we can get better with a seam threat at tightend, I would say bring in Finley but the draft has options. Fasano disappears for some long stretches at a time, so why not draft Michael Egnew? Piaring up Edgnew and would make a great tight end corps with Fasano
"Football is a game played with arms, legs and shoulders but mostly from the neck up"
People who work together will win, whether it be against complex football defenses, or the problems of modern society.
by Carl Johnson a.k.a CJ on Jan 29, 2012 2:02 PM EST reply actions
Well done
but because Mike Adams did so well at the Senior Bowl practices, I believe he’s going to be drafted late in the 1st round. I’d be thrilled if he fell to us in Round 2.
Be careful with Streeter, as well. As a die hard Canes fan myself, he had 1 year of productivity.
"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that." George Carlin
You're not wrong on any of those points. That's why I listed so many options in both rounds 3 and 4.
NY Jets = NFL's Chicago Cubs
There's a fine line between hopeful and desperate. Just look @ Jets fans.
by TheFinReaper on Jan 29, 2012 2:54 PM EST up reply actions
If Dwayne Allen (Clemson)falls to the second I believe we wouldn't hesitate to get him
For those of you that don’t know he is a 6’4 Te that runs a 4.7 40. Fleener is 6’6 and runs a 4.79 40. Both of these are very good prospects and i believe that both will succeed at the next level but in my opinion Allen has more potential for a big play ability but never had a system which he was used properly at Clemson, while Fleener had luck who made a sub par group of recievers (not saying Fleener is sub par) look good with the plays he could make.
"You can turn painful situations around through laughter. If you can find humor in anything, even poverty, you can survive it." Bill Cosby
"Golf is a good walk spoiled." Mark Twain
Captain of team Kellen Moore
Still a believer of Chad Henne just wait and see
Zach Miller Dolphins 2011 starting TE
Allen will not fall to #40 let alone #42 because of how good he is. He would be the ONLY sensible pick IF he was there. Unfortunately, he won't be.
NY Jets = NFL's Chicago Cubs
There's a fine line between hopeful and desperate. Just look @ Jets fans.
by TheFinReaper on Jan 29, 2012 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
.........
Michael Egnew 6’5 4.5-4.6 40 251lbs :|
"Football is a game played with arms, legs and shoulders but mostly from the neck up"
People who work together will win, whether it be against complex football defenses, or the problems of modern society.
by Carl Johnson a.k.a CJ on Jan 29, 2012 5:50 PM EST up reply actions
I hope he sort of disappoints at the combine so we can get him
"You can turn painful situations around through laughter. If you can find humor in anything, even poverty, you can survive it." Bill Cosby
"Golf is a good walk spoiled." Mark Twain
Captain of team Kellen Moore
Still a believer of Chad Henne just wait and see
Zach Miller Dolphins 2011 starting TE
you sir are terrible for hoping somone to fil so you can take advantage wow, I'd never work in a work place with you lol
"Football is a game played with arms, legs and shoulders but mostly from the neck up"
People who work together will win, whether it be against complex football defenses, or the problems of modern society.
by Carl Johnson a.k.a CJ on Jan 29, 2012 6:47 PM EST up reply actions
*fail
"Football is a game played with arms, legs and shoulders but mostly from the neck up"
People who work together will win, whether it be against complex football defenses, or the problems of modern society.
by Carl Johnson a.k.a CJ on Jan 29, 2012 6:54 PM EST up reply actions
it happens every year where one athlete works his way up
And its a business I bet all GM’s hope there number one player on their draft board falls
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Loving the sensible optimism...great post!
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Assuming a trade back with concurrent I project our draft like this.
2012 Mock Draft
1. Malcom floyyd WR- the mismatches of b marsh, m floyyd, and reggie bush would be sick. Also don’t sleep on charles clay having an even more productive sophomore season
2. Mike Adams OT or Florida states OL men
2. Orson Charles TE- Assuming that he’s still here which is very unlikely the dude is just an absolute stud! Has jermichael finely written all over him
3. Brandon Weeden- Let’s say that abandon Weeden due to age is still available in the 3rd round
4. Brandon Bodkins CB- Another steal and sleeper.
5. Cliff Harris CB- If it wasent for legal trouble and lack of game time play in the 2011 season he would be a 1st rounder.
6. Chris Rainey/ Jeff Demps RB- A pair of Gator backs that are very similar personally I would prefer Demps as he will be running in the 4.2-4.3 the guy can straight fly, he should sponsor red bull lol in all serious in this league speed kills and the more of it you have on a team the better.
7. Best Lineman available- this is where im stuck and where I trust Ireland to strike gold as usual with his late round steals.
If our draft looks anywhere close to this I feel we will instantly contend. If its one thing we can learn from the Packets, Saints, Patriots, Giants and others is that the more skill players you have the more successful you’ll be in this league.
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by chad6 on Jan 29, 2012 9:35 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Forget it we do-not out score, our rivels to the north. Get me an above avg. QB.then we go esclusive wide-out!
Our best shot is king kong at D. end, kong’s bruther at TE & cousin at OT………….. then trickel down!
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by wild zion beaver on Jan 30, 2012 8:40 AM EST up reply actions
Very well thought out post! great job, best I've seen here..
So realistic I could see it happening..
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by TheFinReaper on Jan 30, 2012 9:28 PM EST up reply actions
This is a great and thorough article. I do one for every offseason myself and it’s a great exercise. A couple things I disagree with, however:
I don’t think you can give Long a new deal right now-not with his durability concerns. I think you might have to let him play out his final year, then either extend him or franchise him if he warrants it. He’s excellent but I wouldn’t give him a Joe Thomas deal with his recent injury history. He has to get healthy first.
-If anything, McDaniel should be cut, not extended. He had a bad year last year and is costing $3 million against the cap in 2012. Cut McDaniel and roll with Starks, Langford (re-signed), Odrick and Merling at DT.
Overall though, nice job.
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by Chris J. Nelson on Jan 31, 2012 2:33 PM EST reply actions
I disagree with some of yout things...
Long still deserves to be extended. His injury issues aren’t serious and he even played through them until late last season. He’s not an injury prone player. Long at 50% is still a top 10 OT.
As for dumping McDaniel and resigning Langford, that does not do much for us because Langford would be more pricy than McDaniel anyways. That’s still going to be a lot of money tied up to someone that may be a backup. As for Merling, he’s better off at DE.
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I love your typing the words were rite err great post!
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by wild zion beaver on Feb 5, 2012 11:30 PM EST reply actions
Thank you beav.
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