Potential Free Agent Targets for the Miami Dolphins: WR Edition
Previously, I have discussed an overall view of top free agent targets and most recently, I discussed free agent targets at QB. We already know that debate will go on well into March. Being that RB isn't on the wishlist, I have decided to forego that position and get right into the WRs. Depending on who you speak to, the WR may or may not have to be addressed in the offseason.
Personally, I believe Brian Hartline is an average #2 WR. I don't think he's great, but he is consistent and I do believe he's better than some give him credit for. Others think Clyde Gates may be ready to challenge him for a starting position. Based on what I've seen of Gates so far, as much as I would love that to happen, I'm not sure he's ready. I don't believe WR is a huge need for the team, but I also wouldn't be opposed to some acquisitions in that department. There are plenty of free agent WRs available, but some will resign prior to free agency and some others may receive the franchise tag. Let's get started and take a look at some of the free agents and who I believe could make good targets.
Wes Welker (NE): He is a former Dolphin player and many would love to have him back. Not only is he unlikely to return to Miami, but I don't feel he's exactly what we need. We have Davone Bess in the middle and while I have no doubt that Welker would be a good WR for us, I think we're better off not only looking for cheaper options, but at other options that bring more of a vertical threat.
Vincent Jackson (SD): He's got everything you would look for in a WR. His future in San Diego is murky as the two sides have yet to begin contract negotiations for 2012, but Jackson may not return because of previous injuries and his poor relationship with team management. Describing Jackson's relationship with San Diego's front office as rocky would be speaking kindly of the situation. While Jackson may be arguably the best WR available, he also may be the most expensive WR available as well. It's not that I wouldn't love to have him, but I think our money is spent elsewhere.
DeSean Jackson (Phi): Like Vincent Jackson, DeSean Jackson has been going through a rocky relationship with Philly, but he did say in December that he'd like to go back to the Eagles and that he wouldn't be opposed to receiving the franchise tag. The only thing is now, would the Eagles want to franchise him? The rift between DJax and Philly is not as bad as VJax and SD though. Reid has always defended Jackson and I dont' think they'll split... yet. Beyond that, Jackson would be very expensive as well.
Marques Colston (NO): A sure-handed WR and more physical than he appears, Colston does a good job of creating seperation, but that is more because of great route running than top end speed. Because of his route running, I'd still think he would compliment Marshall pretty well more than some of the other WRs that lack top speed. The only problem with Colston is that he will likely be too expensive for my liking.
Stevie Johnson (Buf): A diva WR in Buffalo, but would bring the skills we'd want to see in Miami if he was pursued. Unfortunately, a combination of Brandon Marshall and Johnson in Miami could be too volatile as both are considered diva WRs. Johnson seems like a younger version of Chad Ochocinco. You take the good with the bad. He won't be as expensive as the Jacksons, but his salary demands may still be too high for my liking.
Dwayne Bowe (KC): A big WR with hands, he has emerged as a #1 WR and even though his numbers dropped, KC will certainly try to keep him, even if it means the franchise tag. Like the rest, Bowe would be expensive. On top of that, I believe he's too much like Marshall and I think we need to find more speed to compliment Marshall instead of finding a clone of him.
Mario Manningham (NYG): If I were to make a tiers of the WR position I would put Welker, Colston, and both Jacksons in tier 1 for the top WR free agents. Bowe and Johnson would be placed in tier 2. Manningham would be in tier 3. He's not as gifted as the others, but he has the skills Miami could use. He's only 6'0, but he has speed and can make big plays. He also has the knack for turning 10 yard receptions into big plays with his shiftiness when the ball in his hands. His production slipped this year due to injuries and the emergence of Victor Cruz, but Manningham can bring several years of productivity to any team. The benefit with Manningham is that he would cost less to sign that the above free agents and would leave Miami with enough cap space to fill bigger holes.
Robert Meachem (NO): He's a favorite target for many Dolphin fans because he can be signed relatively cheap and brings very good speed to Miami's offense. Like Manningham, Meachem would fit in tier 3 of free agent WRs, but would bring a good skill set to compliment Marshall and Davone Bess. At 6'2, he's not one of the tallest WRs, but he has also made himself to be a solid red zone target. Fans in Miami know very well they can use another red zone option to help improve Miami's red zone efficiency. He would be another solid free agent target for the Dolphins.
Other Notable Free Agent WRs: Reggie Wayne, Pierre Garcon, Jerome Simpson, Brandon Lloyd, Andre Caldwell, Roy Williams, Braylon Edwards, Ted Ginn, Mike Sims-Walker, Donnie Avery, Plaxico Burress, and Eddie Royal.
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Great analysis,
But you shouldn’t added Wayne, garçon, lloyd and sims-walker. All of which would be good acquisitions as well as being more realistic than vjax, djax, bowe and colston
RGIII or flynn, whichever one helps us win
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by AnishB15 on Jan 27, 2012 5:50 PM EST via mobile reply actions
They may be more realistic, but I feel that players like DJax and VJax bring more to the discussion.
After all, there are some out there that think Miami should pursue them. Not many people are high on Miami pursuing Sims-Walker.
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You can't stereotype the WCO as thinking that is solely the basis of it
The WCO has many variations of it and even the Air Coryell is sometimes referred to as the style of the WCO. The theory of the WCO isn’t that you just beat defenses by spreading them out horizontally, but that doing so generates the ability for longer runs and longer passes. Even in the WCO, you will see plenty of passes that are more than 3 step drops and the QB doesn’t release the ball in 2 seconds. Even in the WCO, a vertical threat is preferred to keep safeties at bay. Again, stretching the field horizontally and getting those quick passes set up the deep pass as well. Without the threat of a deep pass, you don’t have it. If you look at some of the offenses out there that run versions of the WCO, you will see that teams like GB still use plenty of deep passes.
I am excited to see Miami in the WCO, but I don’t want to be the type of WCO like Seattle where they have players like Sidney Rice and Mike Williams, players that while have done good by themselves, have so far failed as a duo. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that Seattle played better when someone like Doug Baldwin (4.4) came into the game and helped open up their offense. Yes, I know the WCO is primarily based on spreading defenses horizontally, but that isn’t just all it does. You will have a hard time winning if that is the only part of the field you can attack.
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Do the phins not have deep threats already in Gates and Hartline? Marshall is no slouch deep either with 20 receptions of over 20 yards at 8th in the league at that catagory.
Two wide receiving deep threats would be enough I thought. I watched green bay a lot, and most of their deep passing plays involved double moves, play actions, deep crossing routes, and isolating deep half safeties. Most of their players didn’t rely on straight line speed, they used quickness off the line and agility. While I’m not saying being able to run deep isn’t important, I’m just saying that the ability to catch short passes is the primary thing, and that a player who is primarily a deep threat won’t suit the WCO. I also noticed that the Green Bay leader in passes of 20 yards or more is Jordy Nelson with 19 (1 less than Marshall’s 20) who ran a 4.51 40 time.
by Irishphan on Jan 28, 2012 7:55 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Hartline has decent speed, but Gates needs to improve his route running, especially in the WCO.
And with players like Manningham and Meachem, I like them because they’re not only deep threats (like Ginn and currently, Gates) that are only threats to go deep, but offer limited in abilities in underneath routes. Meachem and Manningham offer the abilities in all facets of the passing tree and Manningham I am particularly high on because he already has a knack for turning short passes into big gains. If he can do that and bring speed to be a vertical threat, I’d love to see what he can do in Philbin’s offense.
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Ginn
Is it just me or did Ginn play with Swagger this year. I think it would be a good idea to bring him back for KR or PR.
by Dolfan2006 on Jan 27, 2012 7:45 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I don't believe he played with swagger
People think he’s all of a sudden doing better for SF and yes, he’s a quality return man, but he still hasn’t contributed anything as a WR.
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by Finhead83 on Jan 27, 2012 7:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
no thanks...
We have a KR that isn’t afraid of contact… Give him a couple of years… he will be way better than Ginn ever was..
We had [Brady] down… but we didn’t kick him. We helped him up and gave him a PowerPuff Girls band-aid for his knee. What exactly did you expect would happen when we did that?
by Jason Scott_90 on Jan 27, 2012 7:55 PM EST up reply actions
It's funny how you say give him a couple of years
But most wanted Ginn to produce out the Gates. Pun intended. I think getting rid him so quickly was premature.I know he was drafted 9th in 07 so you would want an early pick to produce, but most didn’t give him a fair shout mostly because they wanted Brady Quinn. Look that turned out.
Ginn return ability( both KR and P) alone was enough to keep him on the 53 man roster. Ginn was 3rd in KR and 4th in PR(scoring a TD from both) this season. That’s just what we needed. Not only that Ginn has the speed top take the top of the defense.
We let Ginn go for a 5th round pick. That was dumb. We came right back and drafted Gates in the 4th the following year to replace Ginn. We had the deep threat and return man already in Ginn and could have used that pick on an area of need. If Ginn would have been a 4th round pick he would still be on the team. It’s not his fault most are still trying to replace DM13.
Both Ginn and Quinn are free agents. We need a QB and we need a deep treat’. If you had a chance to get either. Which 1 would it be.
If we had Ginn we wouldn’t even need this post.
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by NawlinsPhinFan on Jan 27, 2012 9:20 PM EST up reply actions
He had 3 years here in Miami...
He has done well as a return man, but we need to stop this “he can pop the top off the defense” nonsense. He hasn’t improved as a WR in SF at all. With all his speed, he struggles to separate from CBs and he doesn’t have good hands. Teams aren’t scared of Ginn as a WR. Ginn did not work out as a deep threat WR.
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Ginn was fighting a losing battle the minute he was drafted
This fan base( at least the majority) wanted Quinn. I never said Ginn was a great receiver, but he could’ve been a part of an elite core. He would’ve been our 4th WR. Ginn could’ve played the rule Devery Henderson does for the Aints. Speed? Ask Revis if he has speed. He beat the Jest twice almost by himself. For that reason alone he should still be a Phin. The 3 years Ginn had in Miami wasn’t great, but he has better numbers then Hartline 1st 3 years in Miami.
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by NawlinsPhinFan on Jan 28, 2012 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
Wait what?
we need to stop this "he can pop the top off the defense" nonsense.
How is this nonsense? Ginn has flashed plenty of times that he can take the top off a defense. Unfortunately for him during his time in MIami he didnt have a qb that could hit him in stride. But when he did have a QB in Pennington he had alot more deep plays even though Pennington couldnt hit him in stride
With all his speed, he struggles to separate from CBs
Lmao this is a joke right? I was actually able to watch most of SFs games and Ginn was constantly beating cbs deep but the deep ball wasnt exactly Smiths strength for most of the regular season . One thing you have to understand is that SF wasnt exactly and explosive offense. They played great defense and Smith was efficient enough to win games.
Teams aren’t scared of Ginn as a WR.
Lol say what you want about his hands but when he lines up corners respect his 4.2 speed.
Ted Ginn. That is all
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Your right about him not having a QB
In his 5 years in the NFL Ginn has plyed with 4 different QB’s(Green,CP10,CH7 and Smith). None of them elite. The best of them was CP10 where Ginn had his best season. Ginn led them team in catches with 56 in his 2nd season. I don’t put to much into what players do when they leave us, but if Ginn would’ve been healthy the 49ers would be in the Superbowl. Those 2 fumbles by Williams cost them the game.
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by NawlinsPhinFan on Jan 29, 2012 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
Ginn is one of the best returners in the league
Even if he sucks at WR, you HAVE to give him credit for being one hell of a returner. And it’s still retarded that we gave him away for a 5th round pick.
Tajh Boyd and Dre' Ellington are the future.
Brandon Jennings; Just keep waiting people.
by BlackPack-fan on Jan 27, 2012 10:00 PM EST up reply actions
It didn't look retarded when Carroll had potential.
We’ll see if Carroll improves next year. If he ends up working out, I think it was a fair trade.
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I'm not really thinking about what we used the pick on
But in general, a 5th rd pick is worth very little, and it’s worth far less than having one of the top returners in the league. But your right Carroll isn’t bad for a 5th rounder.
Oh, and one thing that bothers me is that we traded Ginn for a 5th rounder and then used a selection (I think it was 5th rd as well, or else 4th) to get a player who is almost exactly like Ginn, Clyde Gates, except he isn’t established as a returner.
Tajh Boyd and Dre' Ellington are the future.
Brandon Jennings; Just keep waiting people.
by BlackPack-fan on Jan 27, 2012 10:38 PM EST up reply actions
He isn't establised as a returner or receiver
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by NawlinsPhinFan on Jan 28, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
It looked retarded at the time of the trade
simply because we had no one to replace him. We still haven’t found a suitable replacement to this day.
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by NawlinsPhinFan on Jan 28, 2012 11:47 AM EST up reply actions
Bottom line was that Ginn needed to move on and get a new start. Miami got what they could for him.
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by texascowpunk on Jan 30, 2012 12:03 AM EST up reply actions
Why??? Did he need a new start
Because alot of the fans were pissed,because they didn’t get Quinn. Or maybe because the Trifeca didn’t draft him? He’s gone so I’ll get off him, but alot of fans hate him for no reason.
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by NawlinsPhinFan on Jan 30, 2012 4:37 AM EST up reply actions
Ginn barely played at all.
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V and D Jacksons NO WAY
Both are frigging Cancer cry babies. I would like to see Dwayne Bowe….
I don't see Wes Welker ever comeing back to Miami ...
He has sold his sole to Belly-cheat and will never be back. I also think all the others can be added to the list of receivers that are past their prime as far as proving themselves. That being said, give me someone like Cunningham from Michigan State, or any from the long list of college hopefuls.
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Didn't miami sell him...
For a ham sandwich? I do not blame Welker for being loyal to a franchise and coach that have given him an outside shot at the Hall of Fame.
Miami traded him for a 2nd round and 7th round pick.
By that point, NE already signed him as a RFA with a poison pill. Miami was going to lose him anyways.
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please explain the poison pill, I don't get what that means
RGIII or flynn, whichever one helps us win
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by AnishB15 on Jan 28, 2012 9:29 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
It is a pill Belicheck forces all of his assistants and players too take
If you leave him he activates it and ruins your life: see Junior Seau for more information.
It was firs used for Steve Hutchinson with Minnesota and Seattle...
It gave a normal contract that made Hutchinson the highest paid OG in the league, but it stipulated that unless Hutchinson wasn’t the highest paid lineman on the team, the entire contract would be guaranteed. Seattle had the chance to match Minnesota’s offer, but they already had Walter Jones at a higher salary. That means that if Seattle tried to match the offer, the entire salary was guaranteed ($49 million) and it would destroy Seattle’s salary cap.
That was different than what we typically see in poison pills now. Most stipulate that if a player plays a certain amount of games in the other city (like Miami for Welker), typically 3 or 4, the entire salary would be guaranteed.
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Dolphins colors are AQUA and orange...
not teal. They are not the Marlins of old. That is all.
Is is just me or is the wide reciever free agent class stacked?
There are some big time producers available. I think if we can sign someone for a couple years that could be a big boost to the new offense.
Miami has the Dolphins
Meachem is the way to go.
I would not sign Manningham because he drops half of what is thrown at him. I also like Garcon or Jerome Simpson, who is young and simply broke out this season.
Next year will be the year of the Big 4: Wade, James, Bosh & Cole.
Yankees = The Marlins of the North!
What?
Manningham had fewer than 5 drops last year. That was the lowest of the NYG receivers including Nicks, Cruz, and their TE Ballard. Even Davone Bess had more drops (6).
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You know what..
You are exactly right. I was looking at statistics and saw the wrong column.
Statement withdrawn.
Next year will be the year of the Big 4: Wade, James, Bosh & Cole.
Yankees = The Marlins of the North!
by Zag on Feb 7, 2012 7:34 PM EST up reply actions
I could see these guys as long-term upgrades
Mario Manningham
Robert Meachem
Pierre Garcon
Jerome Simpson
Eddie Royal
Ted Ginn. That is all
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Manningham is the way to go
He is noticed anymore. People forget he was injured this year and played in only 12 games.
2009….57rec….822yards….5td…..15 plays for 20+ yards…..41 first downs
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