Anyone fancy a change at GM?
by Who knows on Jan 22, 2012 10:37 AM EST
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PrintRight to start off with I think the set up is all wrong with the Dolphins. I think that Jeff Ireland has too much power and influence. He should have gone with Tony. I think Bill Polian would be a good move and a upgrade over Jeff Ireland. (Even thou to give credit where its due his last draft was quite good).
Everyone is talking about Luck, RGIII, Flynn etc but I quite like the idea of getting Brandon Weeden in around the 4th round. Yes he's older but has the tools to make it in my mind. Even if we only have him for a few years that will still be a few years of not potentially searching for a QB.
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This is how many Dolphins fans feel about Jeff Ireland
That said. Its too late. As Omar Kelly says, learn to love the one you’re with.
"I think we can all agree the best thing about this years Superbowl is the Jets aren't in it. The Jets are a lot like the Yankees...everyone hates them. Only they don't have good players, a winning tradition or a coach who doesn't beat off everytime a player gets their ankle taped." - Daniel Tosh
by Davone_Is_BessT on Jan 22, 2012 11:11 AM EST reply actions
i thought the body language and tone at the press conference yesterday was interesting. philbin is the coach, and ross is the owner, and jeffy appeared irrelevant.,
lets hope it stays that way.
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How was he irrelevant?
He spoke about the search. He talked. He answered questions. And, it was a press conference about the hire of a new head coach. What were you expecting? Him to break down draft prospects?
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by Kevin Nogle on Jan 22, 2012 12:19 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
^^THIS
He said exactly what I want him to say.. He is going to find players, and let Philbin figure out who plays. That is exactly what we want. We want him to go do what he does.. he is known around the league as the “Super Scout.”
Like him or hate him… be upset that he asks what you feel are the wrong questions… It is a good thing that Dez Bryant is not here in South Beach all the time. He has already been arrested here the other day and he was just visiting. Imagine how much trouble he would be in if he LIVED here… That guy has been arrested a few times and as much talent as we have down here in Miami, we also have to worry about the types of players we bring here for just that reason.
Be upset that he betrayed Sparano … whatever. But we have a better head coach now I believe then we had before. Sparano was a decent coach… but not a good coach. 3 7-9 seasons. Sparano made enough mistakes to not get another year here, and I am glad that Ireland had the guts to say what we were all thinking. Here is a short list of the things I feel made him a bad coach:
1. Kept Pasqualoni too long.
2. Kept Henning too long.
3. Constantly played to tie games while other teams were playing to win.
We had [Brady] down… but we didn’t kick him. We helped him up and gave him a PowerPuff Girls band-aid for his knee. What exactly did you expect would happen when we did that?
by Jason Scott_90 on Jan 22, 2012 6:38 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Sparanos biggest downfall IMO
was that he played scared, he played to not lose rather than playing to win. How many times in his 4 years do you remember the Dolphins taking a risk?
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how many times did he have the QB kneel instead of taking a shot downfield at the end of the half?
We had [Brady] down… but we didn’t kick him. We helped him up and gave him a PowerPuff Girls band-aid for his knee. What exactly did you expect would happen when we did that?
by Jason Scott_90 on Jan 22, 2012 9:23 PM EST up reply actions
everytime
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he appeared irrelevent. so what that he showed up and blathered about 'the search process' or talked or answered questions.
his main newsmaking moment was telling everyone that the new coach has 100 percent latitude in hiring….ie. he will step out of the way (presumably) on that one. omar kelly is saying his role will migrate ever more towards scouting.
i’m glad we have a person called general manager, but the core of that press conference was ross and philbin.
its just my opinion or read of this. could be wrong, but nothing you’ve said changes my mind (with respect!).
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A Head Coach should have 100% authority in determining his coaching staff. Parcells actually vetoed a Sparano pick for offensive coordinator in order to bring in Henning.
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by TheFinReaper on Jan 22, 2012 9:57 PM EST up reply actions
I agree with everything you said
Go Heat and Dolphins
RIP Jim Mandich
by mikethedolphinsfan on Jan 22, 2012 11:27 AM EST reply actions
ross/philbin can now give jeff something, some specific task, that he will excel at and help the fins with, and ross
can judge him or review his contract on his ability to deliver.
scouting, community relations, nfl relations, whatever.
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I like the way Ireland drafted last year, which is the draft thatbhe had the most say...
I think Ireland is a good evaluator of talent, and we should give him another draft to really see what he is made of
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by finzrule on Jan 22, 2012 11:49 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Disagree
If you are gonna get weeden, might as well stick with Matt Moore, he’s younger, has more experience, and he won’t have to go through the rookie learning curve as weeden would have to
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matt moore is a backup, weeden has WAY more potential even at 28
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by mikethedolphinsfan on Jan 22, 2012 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
i disagree, we went 6-6 under Moore (starting) after being thrust into the starting position
he put us in a position to win in every game, and after a rough start, its tough to keep a team competitive… and he successfully did so
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Weeden, on the other hand, is an unproven player who could be a total bust and is older than Moore
now, lets say he turns out to be a solid QB, it would probably take 2-3 years for him to fully form into a competitive QB.. at that point, you have a 30-31 year old QB, who probably has less than 5 years of his best play left in him
Luck >Griffin>Flynn>Moore>Weeden
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Matt Moore is a good backup
He is not a franchise guy, a real franchise guy elevates the play of the players around him, Matt Moore did not. He is a good backup, thats it. He couldn’t keep his job in Carolina, it would be irresponsible to go into next season as Matt Moore as your only viable starting option
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by mikethedolphinsfan on Jan 22, 2012 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
I agree that Matt Moore shouldn't be our only starting option, but he did create plays for us and limited mistakes
Also, Brandon Marshall dropping 15 passes didn’t help
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I agree he is a decent stopgap while we groom a young QB
Your damn right about Marshall. haha
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by mikethedolphinsfan on Jan 22, 2012 4:41 PM EST up reply actions
I think he's a very good stopgap while we groom a young QB
A stopgap that can HELP groom, computer with the young one, and keep us in playoff contention
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I agree
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by mikethedolphinsfan on Jan 23, 2012 9:10 PM EST up reply actions
Wes Welker dropped 1 less pass than BM
and Tom Brady still had an alright season. :)
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wow ... good point...
We had [Brady] down… but we didn’t kick him. We helped him up and gave him a PowerPuff Girls band-aid for his knee. What exactly did you expect would happen when we did that?
by Jason Scott_90 on Jan 22, 2012 6:38 PM EST up reply actions
But Wes Welker had more targets, and Tom Brady is ne of the best players of all time
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is that true??
We had [Brady] down… but we didn’t kick him. We helped him up and gave him a PowerPuff Girls band-aid for his knee. What exactly did you expect would happen when we did that?
by Jason Scott_90 on Jan 22, 2012 6:38 PM EST up reply actions
Yup
Roddy White – 15 dropped passes
Greg Little – 14 dropped passes
BM – 14 dropped passes
Wes Welker – 13 dropped passes
Victor Cruz – 11 dropped passes
That’s the top 5 in dropped passes in the NFL in 2011. Dwayne Bowe with 10 dropped passes was the only other player with double-digit drops. The info was from Pro Football Focus.
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Those players didn't drop more touchdowns than they caught like Marshall I bet
Those players are also good soldiers unlike B Marshall
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by mikethedolphinsfan on Jan 22, 2012 7:42 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm willing to bet none of them have ever served in the army
Those players are also good soldiers
So none of them would be good soldiers.
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Let me reword that
They are probably good teammates and don’t get involved in incidents regarding the police unlike B-Marsh
Brandon Marshall is a solid #2 possession receiver, he is not a #1
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by mikethedolphinsfan on Jan 22, 2012 8:36 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Marshall has been fine with Miami.
And he is a legitimate #1 WR. He’s not top 3 at WR, but he’s a #1 WR.
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Real #1's don't drop more touchdowns than they catch
and they get involved with police often
They also don’t pout after wins (2nd Buffalo game)
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by mikethedolphinsfan on Jan 22, 2012 8:49 PM EST up reply actions
Marshall hasn't had problems with police in Miami
It’s also not known how many of the 14 drops were TDs, so it’s very well possible he didn’t drop more TDs than he caught. Besides, the top WRs generally are the ones with the most dropped passes.
And if you want to see what Miami would be like without Marshall because he’s not a #1 WR, I would bet that our offense would be really ugly. He is a #1 WR whether you like it or not.
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Answer: 5 Dropped TDs, 6 Caught TDs.
A Red zone threat he is not.
Keep in mind that Marshall has caught 34 TDs in his career (91 games, 494 receptions) and only reached double digits once (10 in 2009).
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by TheFinReaper on Jan 22, 2012 9:33 PM EST up reply actions
Andre Johnson has never reached double digit TDs in a year.
Yet he’s considered the best WR in the NFL. Marshall is a red zone threat, has always had his fair share of drops, but did have more drops than usual in end zone. Marshall is a #1 WR, but is not one of the top 5 WRs in the NFL. Yet the fact that he has only 1 season of 10+ TDs obviously doesn’t mean he can’t be among the top WRs if the NFL’s best has never reached that milestone.
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Dude, he got stabbed by his wife and “forgot” to pay a cab.
Those are two problems right there.
I would like to see it w/o Marshall. We wouldn’t have to force him the ball to keep him happy and the other receivers wouldn’t drop as many touchdowns or randomly run out of bounds (Jets Monday Night Game)
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by mikethedolphinsfan on Jan 22, 2012 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
Being stabbed is not a legal problem
And the cab portion never amounted to anything. This is like saying someone that receives a loud noise complaint is now a team problem.
Without Marshall, we wouldn’t be in position for the other WRs to have a chance to drop a TD.
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it is when he lied about it. Why the hell would he be given the benefit of the doubt when he hits women and got a teammate killed
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by mikethedolphinsfan on Jan 22, 2012 10:15 PM EST up reply actions
Because many people don't want to implicate their wife in a crime.
And the entire shooting incident was actually shown to be that the killer was believed to be targeting Marshall’s cousin, not him. Marshall didn’t get a teammate killed. The shooter got his teammate killed.
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He was targeting Marshall who was talking trash to a CRIP gang member
If he (an his cousin) wouldn’t have been running there mouth nobody would have gotten shot.
How could you trust this guy with women after he has hit them on multiple occasions.
You have your opinion, I have mine
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by mikethedolphinsfan on Jan 22, 2012 10:20 PM EST up reply actions
It came out in testimony it was his cousin, not Marshall.
And I know what Marshall’s personality has been like. I don’t condone things he’s done, but there are hundreds who have done things that people still back. Leonard Little was still backed after he killed someone. Same with Stallworth. Nobody cares about Ray Lewis’ incident now. All I’m saying is Marshall hasn’t had any issues in Miami that would cause him to be suspended.
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are you blaming a victim for getting shot at?
Is it ok though since he didn’t get shot? I can’t imagine that if he had gotten shot you would say he had it coming for talking to a CRIP… we should all live in fear of thugs… right?
We had [Brady] down… but we didn’t kick him. We helped him up and gave him a PowerPuff Girls band-aid for his knee. What exactly did you expect would happen when we did that?
by Jason Scott_90 on Jan 24, 2012 7:26 AM EST up reply actions
lol. whatever dude
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by mikethedolphinsfan on Jan 24, 2012 7:40 AM EST up reply actions
We still haven't figured out how to use Marshall correctly...
Philbin will be able to figure it out though… It should be crazy… Especially if we can get something out of Clay and Gates…
We had [Brady] down… but we didn’t kick him. We helped him up and gave him a PowerPuff Girls band-aid for his knee. What exactly did you expect would happen when we did that?
by Jason Scott_90 on Jan 22, 2012 9:36 PM EST up reply actions
And if our QB can start hitting Hartline and Bess in stride.
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by texascowpunk on Jan 22, 2012 9:37 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
^This^
Would be nice to have a QB lead his WR.
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Good Soldiers?
What the hell does that mean? So I guess BM should be happy when we are 0-7? No offense, but I want him to be pissed off. I want him to be upset when our QB sucks and can’t get him the ball. I also want a QB like Marino that will be pissed off when he drops the ball. Being happy that we suck is not what I want… Don’t give me a good soldier… give me a winner.. FYI aside from Greg Little all of those guys are on teams with winning records.
We had [Brady] down… but we didn’t kick him. We helped him up and gave him a PowerPuff Girls band-aid for his knee. What exactly did you expect would happen when we did that?
by Jason Scott_90 on Jan 22, 2012 9:35 PM EST up reply actions
Brandon Marshall is not a winner
What winning team has he been apart of? NONE!
Yea a good soldies as in don’t get stabbed by your wife and try to get out of not paying a cab. He also has 10+ arrests while in Denver for hitting women and getting a teammate killed.
Sounds like a winner to me!
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by mikethedolphinsfan on Jan 22, 2012 10:02 PM EST up reply actions
Um, isn't that like saying Dan Marino isn't a winner?
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Dan Marino was in playoffs every year........
Brandon Marshall has never been apart of winning team PERIOD. Hell, even in College his team was mediocre (UCF).
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by mikethedolphinsfan on Jan 22, 2012 10:13 PM EST up reply actions
The Broncos were a winning team in 2006, but weren't in the playoffs.
And I’m willing to bet that he will be in the postseason at some point. There are more players on the team than just him. He’d be in the playoffs if he was on a number of teams. Miami and Denver didn’t miss out because of him. They probably were closer to the playoffs than they’d be without him.
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I don't agree but ok.
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by mikethedolphinsfan on Jan 22, 2012 10:17 PM EST up reply actions
Don't bring back 2010, but point made hang onto the ball not just when its a hard catch!
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by wild zion beaver on Jan 27, 2012 10:50 AM EST up reply actions
not sure I would go that far with Matt Flynn...
We really don’t know enough about Matt Flynn to say he is definitely better than Matt Moore. The person that might know is Philbin. If we go hard after Matt Flynn, it is safe to assume that Flynn can be a #1 QB…
We had [Brady] down… but we didn’t kick him. We helped him up and gave him a PowerPuff Girls band-aid for his knee. What exactly did you expect would happen when we did that?
by Jason Scott_90 on Jan 22, 2012 9:27 PM EST up reply actions
and you can tell this by the way he takes advantage of a college defense?
Put Matt Moore up against any college defense.. I am sure he would light it up also…
We had [Brady] down… but we didn’t kick him. We helped him up and gave him a PowerPuff Girls band-aid for his knee. What exactly did you expect would happen when we did that?
by Jason Scott_90 on Jan 22, 2012 9:25 PM EST up reply actions
I agree this is a fan shot.
"Theyas no fawking qwatahback!"-Anonymous Patriots fan at seeing the Wildcat formation for the first time.
by texascowpunk on Jan 22, 2012 12:09 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
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what with what I’m saying or that this is a fan shot?
Both.
"Theyas no fawking qwatahback!"-Anonymous Patriots fan at seeing the Wildcat formation for the first time.
by texascowpunk on Jan 22, 2012 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
agreed,...
Marching to the beat of a different drummer since 1965...
by Ohiofinfan4life on Jan 22, 2012 4:28 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
agreed.... good call
We had [Brady] down… but we didn’t kick him. We helped him up and gave him a PowerPuff Girls band-aid for his knee. What exactly did you expect would happen when we did that?
by Jason Scott_90 on Jan 22, 2012 6:39 PM EST up reply actions
What am I agreeing with?
The Jeff Ireland part or the Weeden part?
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Hopefully neither. lol
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LOL
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Okay, maybe I should say what am I agreeing or disagreeing with?
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by Kevin Nogle on Jan 22, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
i guess just answer for both
Miami's Superstars: Reggie Bush, Brandon Marshall, Jake Long, Mike Pouncey, Karlos Dansby, Cameron Wake, Vontae Davis and Sean Smith (just wait), Lebron James, Dwyane Wade, Chris Bosh, Mike Stanton, Gaby Sanchez, Hanley Ramirez, Josh Johnson, Heath Bell, Mark Buehrle, Jose Reyes, Tomas Fleischmann, Stephen Weiss, Jose Theodore, and Chris Versteeg. :)
I guess it shows the diversity of opinion around here...
I completely disagree on all fronts.
Ireland is just fine in my eyes (as a GM lol). The truth is people have been so overcome with their bitterness they don’t know a good thing when they have it.
I don’t know too much about the QB you mention, but just simply too old in my mind. Maybe if he goes undrafted……
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by Phinphinatic on Jan 23, 2012 4:32 PM EST up reply actions
You mean the same Bill Polian who has drafted terribly for the Colts?
If you look at the Colts, they are pretty depleted. Manning made him look like a genius, because he covered up all the weaknesses on the team. He can barely even hit on 1st round picks… Joseph Addai (RB), Anthony Gonzalez (WR), Donald Brown (RB), and Jerry Hughes (DE). They have all either been extremely injury prone or not impactful.
I don’t want Bill Polian anywhere near this team. I put the colts bad season as much on Bill Polian as on the abscence of Manning.
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by Choose your screen name: on Jan 22, 2012 1:51 PM EST reply actions
Ireland
Ireland has his marching orders. IMO the writting is on the wall. Ireland wanted McCoy and Ross wanted Philbin. The next 2 years are make or break for Ireland. Philbin seems by all accounts to be a solid hire. I believe Ross will listen to Philbin. I saw a shift in power structure. An the people that think last years draft was great. I don’t get it. It’s one year and everyone is anointing it a great draft. You can’t say it was great after 1 year. It takes atleast 3 years to judge a draft class. The Draft is half the job of a GM.
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well... lets look at the potential hits...
Pouncey and Clay have already made an impact. Gates is also already making an impact on special teams returning kickoffs. He hasn’t seen the field much on offense, but remember it was a shortened year and we had bigger problems this year on offense than trying to get a rookie involved. That would be 3… a good draft. But add to that Daniel Thomas who doesn’t look to be a home run, but certainly looks like he might be a really good compliment to Reggie Bush. You can also throw in Jimmy Wilson who is already making an impact on special teams and has even made plays when he has seen the field. Picking up a difference maker in the 7th round at any position is a homerun.
We had [Brady] down… but we didn’t kick him. We helped him up and gave him a PowerPuff Girls band-aid for his knee. What exactly did you expect would happen when we did that?
by Jason Scott_90 on Jan 24, 2012 7:33 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah Pouncey, Thomas, Gates, Clay....
They’ve all been busts haven’t they…LOL!! Ireland had a solid draft this past year, so I don’t see what all the fuss is about. Sure he’s made his mistakes. But I think he’s picking up some good solid players for us at the moment. It’ll be real interesting to see how this draft pans out.
by BahamaDolfan on Jan 22, 2012 2:49 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
You replying to me Bahama?
Pouncey solid pick. No brainer except. I believe he was rated 10-15 in the league as a center. You pick a center that high at 15 he should be a Probowler like his brother. An yeah I know he is a 3rd or 4th Alt. for the probowl. I believe he will be a top 6-10 center. Thomas? Your kidding right. His YPC sucked. Gates is the exact player you rate in his 3rd year. LOL. Clay? Is he better than Gronk, Hernandez , Graham, Pitta, or Gresham? Being a GM is not about looking for acorns in the draft. Its about looking at the strength of the draft and going after it.
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by FinFanFromCA on Jan 22, 2012 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
No it was just a reply in general.
Pouncey has done better than anyone expected. Most thought he’d be a guard. Thomas has had a difficult time with injuries and the resurgence of bush, but I think he’ll be a nice player. Gates was always going to take a season to transition. He’s a DII player. And he did improve on kick returns. Clay for a 6th rounder is a steal! Those guys u talk about drafted much higher.
by BahamaDolfan on Jan 22, 2012 3:53 PM EST up reply actions
Ireland has done okay as GM, but in drafting I think he took the cowardly route
Safe picks but no gamechangers right now anyways. The OL, pass rushers, TE, and our safety position are holes we’ve had last offseason, so I don’t know where you can say he done real well drafting. The influx of Cowboys castoffs have also blemished his cred. Sparano deserved some blame for our dismal seasons, but to exclude Ireland from blame is downright neglect.
Get the best man to clear every hurdle that stand in the Dolphins way, go RG3.
RG3, the new Transformer of the future.
by fin4three5yrs on Jan 22, 2012 3:56 PM EST up reply actions
Ummm...
He found wake didn’t he? Pretty good pass rusher. And we had JT there too. We will be getting a new one this year. Philbin knows of the importance of getting to Brady. If we sign Flynn I think he’ll address this need in he 1st, and if we trade back it’ll be even better.
Just need tweaks to OL and we will be fine. Jerry may well start next year too. I’m actually really liking Mosely at RT at the moment if Sanders and Adams aren’t there in the second.
TE I agree we need a TE, and this could get addressed this year.
by BahamaDolfan on Jan 22, 2012 6:01 PM EST up reply actions
are you insane? those guys were all picked before the 6th round.
Some of those guys were picked in the 1st round. I think once we get a legitimate franchise QB you will see better numbers than you saw last year out of Clay, and that is really encouraging considering that every time they threw the ball to him it was for a big play it seemed.
We had [Brady] down… but we didn’t kick him. We helped him up and gave him a PowerPuff Girls band-aid for his knee. What exactly did you expect would happen when we did that?
by Jason Scott_90 on Jan 24, 2012 7:36 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Dear Ireland Haters,
Shut up for 4 months and let the team take shape. Nothing is going to change before the draft so how about giving it a rest for a while. We finally bring in a competent, well respected coach and not even 48 hours later we are talking about changing out the GM? For Christ’s sake, let the team take shape first. Everyone that is talking about getting rid of Ireland is doing so out of spite. Either you are angry about the Dez Bryant thing or are angry that Tony is gone and Ireland is still here. The Dez thing was drastically overblown by Michael Silver so he would have a hot topic story to latch his name onto and was nowhere near as bad as the incident has been painted to be. As for Tony, it was Ross’s idea to get a new coach but everyone whines that Ireland didn’t try to save Tony’s job. Put the shoes on your feet and ask if you would actually stick your neck out (When your job is safe) and try to talk your boss out of what he sees as a significant upgrade. Ireland had a solid draft last year in his first solo stint at the job. Why not give him a second shot and see if he does a better job or a worse job before deciding if that first draft was a fluke or the norm?
To use Parcells’ favorite euphemism, Ireland bought the groceries and Sparano cooked a crappy meal. Do you fire the guy doing the shopping or do you fire the cook that did nothing with the groceries?
NY Jets = NFL's Chicago Cubs
There's a fine line between hopeful and desperate. Just look @ Jets fans.
by TheFinReaper on Jan 22, 2012 4:44 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
I would fire the guy who was the GENERAL MANAGER of the Miami Dolphins for 4 years and is directly part of the reason we are in this mess
Go Heat and Dolphins
RIP Jim Mandich
by mikethedolphinsfan on Jan 22, 2012 6:00 PM EST up reply actions
He has had one year of final say so.............
"Theyas no fawking qwatahback!"-Anonymous Patriots fan at seeing the Wildcat formation for the first time.
by texascowpunk on Jan 22, 2012 6:04 PM EST up reply actions
If he was the GUY IN CHARGE (Like most GMs) for 4 years and was the guy DIRECTLY responsible then I would agree with you.
The Head Coach is the one DIRECTLY responsible for the teams success or lack there of. Who was the man that built 75%+ or the Miami Dolphins 1970s championship roster? Don’t know him by name? Shocking. I bet you know who the head coach was though. How about we examine something:
1969 Miami Dolphins
Head Coach: George Wilson Jr.
Record: 3-10-1
1970 Miami Dolphins
Head Coach: Don Shula
Record: 10-4
I will grant you that Miami had some big acquisitions (Mandich, Scott, Foley in the draft and Warfield via trade) in the offseason but the core of the team was already there in 1969 and the coach didn’t know what to do with it so HE got fired.
NY Jets = NFL's Chicago Cubs
There's a fine line between hopeful and desperate. Just look @ Jets fans.
by TheFinReaper on Jan 22, 2012 6:31 PM EST up reply actions
He brought in Morrel also!
wopper "the king" computer
We often look rite past the positive's cuz the negative's-r-so hard they dominate!
by wild zion beaver on Jan 27, 2012 10:58 AM EST up reply actions
What mess?
This team is solid in a lot of positions, following up the 2007 the FO had John Denney, Brandon Fields and Ted Ginn to build on and nothing else to really work with.
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by Agent J 78 on Jan 22, 2012 6:34 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Solid teams don't start 0-7 not matter how bad the coaching is
Go Heat and Dolphins
RIP Jim Mandich
by mikethedolphinsfan on Jan 22, 2012 7:45 PM EST up reply actions
Bad teams don't finish a season 6-3 no matter how good the coaching is
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They beat other mediocre teams dude.... That's what the Miami Dolphins have been for 4 years
Beat the mediocre teams and break our hearts vs the good ones when they always come up short.
Go Heat and Dolphins
RIP Jim Mandich
by mikethedolphinsfan on Jan 22, 2012 8:38 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
you seem angry and misinformed
your perception of my miami dolphins does not represent my reality.
a wise man once said..."My cats breath smells like cat food"
My love for THE MIAMI DOLPHINS is unconditional...period!
Win for pride, Win for us fans!
God I hope we can knock the Jets out of the playoffs, I couldn't imagine despising a team and fan base more.
Go Dolphins!
by Phinphinatic on Jan 23, 2012 4:41 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
lol ok dude...
Go Heat and Dolphins
RIP Jim Mandich
by mikethedolphinsfan on Jan 23, 2012 9:11 PM EST up reply actions
No not at all rec for haveing a stand!
wopper "the king" computer
We often look rite past the positive's cuz the negative's-r-so hard they dominate!
by wild zion beaver on Jan 27, 2012 11:00 AM EST up reply actions
Do you remember this pearl of wisdom?
“Coaching is taking the talent you have and getting the most out of their ability.”
Care to guess who said that? I will give you a hint, his first name is Don and his last name rhymes with hula. Tell me again who is DIRECTLY responsible for a teams success. Nobody talks about the guys that build the roster, they talk about the head coach and the players on that roster.
NY Jets = NFL's Chicago Cubs
There's a fine line between hopeful and desperate. Just look @ Jets fans.
by TheFinReaper on Jan 22, 2012 6:42 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
haha ok ok....
Go Heat and Dolphins
RIP Jim Mandich
by mikethedolphinsfan on Jan 22, 2012 7:45 PM EST up reply actions
Time for fun Trivia: Name the Personnel Director that put the 1970-71 Dolphins together. Name the coach of the 1970-71 Dolphins Head Coach.
ANYONE????
NY Jets = NFL's Chicago Cubs
There's a fine line between hopeful and desperate. Just look @ Jets fans.
by TheFinReaper on Jan 22, 2012 9:18 PM EST up reply actions
tom brandsater?
a wise man once said..."My cats breath smells like cat food"
My love for THE MIAMI DOLPHINS is unconditional...period!
Win for pride, Win for us fans!
God I hope we can knock the Jets out of the playoffs, I couldn't imagine despising a team and fan base more.
Go Dolphins!
by Phinphinatic on Jan 23, 2012 4:42 PM EST up reply actions
Seriously?
This is stupid. Are most Dolphin fans not happy unless they are firing or complaining about someone? Polian? Did you see their team this year? That was a disgrace to the NFL. Because they had Peyton he didn’t evaluate the rest of the team I guess, no thanks. By the way Ireland is a good GM just be patient. The future is bright. This Philbin guy is going to be good.
by Joe McNeil on Jan 22, 2012 7:39 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Every team has them
Are most Dolphin fans not happy unless they are firing or complaining about someone?
We are no different.
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We are not happy when we have not even MADE THE PLAYOFFS in 10 of the past 11 years
Go Heat and Dolphins
RIP Jim Mandich
by mikethedolphinsfan on Jan 22, 2012 8:40 PM EST up reply actions
9 of the past 11 years.
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
Contributing Writer to the The Phinsider
Whatever thats not the point, still one of the worst franchises the past decade
Its just frustrating how the Pats, Steelers, etc. make it every year and us…
Go Heat and Dolphins
RIP Jim Mandich
by mikethedolphinsfan on Jan 22, 2012 8:47 PM EST up reply actions
Just figured if you're going to be so anal that you may want to be using correct numbers.
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
Contributing Writer to the The Phinsider
by Finhead83 on Jan 22, 2012 9:05 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
If you want to be blind ass fan and think everything the team does is right then go right ahead
I hope I’m wrong and Jeff Ireland turns into a great GM and we make the playoffs every year but I just don’t see it. Be honest with yourself.
Go Heat and Dolphins
RIP Jim Mandich
by mikethedolphinsfan on Jan 22, 2012 10:11 PM EST up reply actions
I don't think every move made is the right one.
But you should also apply the same theory to yourself and not try to think everything that has been done was a bad move. Despite your claims, Marshall has shown to be a good WR and Miami would be much worse without him.
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
Contributing Writer to the The Phinsider
Its hard to be positive when this team has been mediocre the past decade
I support the Philbin hire. Just Saying.
Go Heat and Dolphins
RIP Jim Mandich
by mikethedolphinsfan on Jan 22, 2012 10:21 PM EST up reply actions
It's hardervto be positive...
When you’re blathering out of your ass too. Just stop posting, youre reminding me of another fool that was trolling too.
This is Team Teal. Sharks and Phins.
Cut me open and I bleed Teal...
Just a reminder, fans, comin’ up is our "Die-hard Night" here at the stadium. Free admission to anyone who was actually alive the last time the Dolphins won a Super Bowl. -Mosul_DolFan, Phinsider.com
Marc Emery ... the Big Bad Bogeyman ... who offered natural seeds that could potentially become a non-toxic, non-addictive, highly beneficial 12,000-year-old plant. Where are the victims? Where are the bodies? "Justice Minister" Rob Nicholson and his ilk should be the criminals imprisoned.
by Sharkz_N_Phinz on Jan 23, 2012 6:40 AM EST via Android app up reply actions 1 recs
just send nicky and alpha at him...
that should do the trick
a wise man once said..."My cats breath smells like cat food"
My love for THE MIAMI DOLPHINS is unconditional...period!
Win for pride, Win for us fans!
God I hope we can knock the Jets out of the playoffs, I couldn't imagine despising a team and fan base more.
Go Dolphins!
by Phinphinatic on Jan 23, 2012 4:44 PM EST up reply actions
I'm sorry you guys are too soft to handle the truth
I hope I’m wrong and we start making the playoffs every year.
Go Heat and Dolphins
RIP Jim Mandich
by mikethedolphinsfan on Jan 23, 2012 9:12 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe the jets will make the playoffs again before the SuperBowl is in there back yard!
wopper "the king" computer
We often look rite past the positive's cuz the negative's-r-so hard they dominate!
by wild zion beaver on Jan 27, 2012 11:02 AM EST up reply actions
Send them at me?
This is a blog dude.
Go Heat and Dolphins
RIP Jim Mandich
by mikethedolphinsfan on Jan 23, 2012 9:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
and those are jokes...dude
a wise man once said..."My cats breath smells like cat food"
My love for THE MIAMI DOLPHINS is unconditional...period!
Win for pride, Win for us fans!
God I hope we can knock the Jets out of the playoffs, I couldn't imagine despising a team and fan base more.
Go Dolphins!
by Phinphinatic on Jan 24, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
no need for the name calling, be happy its off season April is the draft enjoy life till then & take a rec both!
wopper "the king" computer
We often look rite past the positive's cuz the negative's-r-so hard they dominate!
by wild zion beaver on Jan 27, 2012 11:04 AM EST up reply actions
because of Manning everyone looked better than they actually were....
Even the defense looked better because of him because they were playing with a lead and they could tee off on the opposing QB…
We had [Brady] down… but we didn’t kick him. We helped him up and gave him a PowerPuff Girls band-aid for his knee. What exactly did you expect would happen when we did that?
by Jason Scott_90 on Jan 24, 2012 7:40 AM EST up reply actions
Unless you buy the team, live with Jeff I.
J-E-S-T-S SUCK, SUCK, SUCK.
I always take life with a grain of salt, plus a slice of lime, and a shot of tequila.
fan shot
and while i am at it… rather than post the exact same topic that has been posted several times before, just read the old ones and provide your input there.
just sayin
a wise man once said..."My cats breath smells like cat food"
My love for THE MIAMI DOLPHINS is unconditional...period!
Win for pride, Win for us fans!
God I hope we can knock the Jets out of the playoffs, I couldn't imagine despising a team and fan base more.
Go Dolphins!
by Phinphinatic on Jan 23, 2012 4:45 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
given the fact that we got Reggie Bush for...
Jonathan Amaya and a swap of 6th round picks… I think we made out pretty well in the Reggie Bush deal. You can add that to the list of home runs that Jeff Ireland has hit since he has been in charge.
We had [Brady] down… but we didn’t kick him. We helped him up and gave him a PowerPuff Girls band-aid for his knee. What exactly did you expect would happen when we did that?
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