A look at the 2012 AFC East Salary Cap Positions
Miami is projected to be $10 mil under the cap.
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Goddamn New England, man....
Not only are they a perennially elite team, but they have tons of draft picks ever year, and are in amazing salary cap shape. They really are a marvel. I hate them so much…..
The only reason I watch Jets games is to see if TODAY is the day Rex Ryan's fat heart gives out on him...
Welker will consume a lot of that space.
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Doubt it. NE will do something crazy. Like trade him so he can’t eat their cap space.
Draft a first round QB and then build around him.
Please do not insult other phin fans if you disagree with them.
by 54 on Jan 20, 2012 1:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
They'd have to franchise him to trade him, but they won't do that.
They need him. He’s all they have at WR. They’ll resign him and he’ll get between $5-10 mil this upcoming season.
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Franchise tag number for WR will be 9.4 million
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I am saying that under the assumption they work a deal.
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Just shows...
If we go for RG3, we will have holes on the team we won’t all be able to address on the team.
So the question is:
1. Continue to build the Roster.
2. Go for RG3, add a free agent or two, and leave a few holes on the team.
This really is a tough decision because we can get some real good value on the draft this year if it falls to us right.
I don' think it puts us out of RG3 at all.
Miami will be able to make some moves.
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? Rookies salaries are capped. We’ll have room.
Draft a first round QB and then build around him.
Please do not insult other phin fans if you disagree with them.
by 54 on Jan 20, 2012 1:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
No, no.
I was saying if we go for RG3 we will have to give up 1sts and 2nds, possibly two 1sts and 2 2nds. We don’t have the cap space to go after top free agents to fill our remaining weak spots. We would have to leave some spots as they are, or have 3rd, 4th and 5th rounders filling them.
by BahamaDolfan on Jan 20, 2012 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
We don't really have that many holes.
It’s just that the few have are huge.
We can get the cap room. I said in a few ways we can do that in other comments.
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We also already have a pick missing.
We gave up an undisclosed draft pick for Reggie Bush.
Sept. 26, 2010 - 2013 Draft Kyle Padron Bandwagon
As soon as the HC search is over, I'm going to do a post on Miami's Salary Cap situation.
In some ways it is worse than the numbers would indicate.
(How’s that for a tease?) LOL
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It's not that bad.
Look for an extension to Jake Long, who will be entering the final year of his contract. Same with Starks. Bell could sign an extension, but he may also be cut to save money. Long and Starks signing extensions will reduce the cap number and teams can use a $1.5 million exemption on 3 players each. We’re $10 mil under and there’s moves that could put us closer to being $15-20 million under.
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But, isnt Solia taking up like 12 million of that space?
by D0lphins4Life on Jan 20, 2012 12:38 PM EST via mobile reply actions
No.
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NE will pull another ubelievable trade. Theyll blindside everyone by trading Welker like they did Moss.
Everyone will b like wtf, but somehow theyll have some no name thatll take his place and go to the pro bowl next year. LOL!
by D0lphins4Life on Jan 20, 2012 12:43 PM EST via mobile reply actions
They can't, he's a FA.
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Welker is a Patriot for the duration of his career
he personifies that not the most physically talented athelete – but hard working smart football player that New England loves. They will pay him more than they would most vets his age …. BUT he will end up giving them a discount.
by scrappy the wildcat on Jan 20, 2012 1:49 PM EST up reply actions
When that post says 'projected'...
it doesn’t tell you who they project the Dolphins to resign. I swear we were $7 million under last year. I doubt Solai will get above the $12 million he’s getting now. Henne will be gone ($500,000), Colombo will be gone, Carey could be gone, Taylor is gone. I know resigning Langford could be expensive, but how do they only predict $10 million?
They're not projecting the salaries of Henne, Soliai, Carey, or Taylor.
They’re UFAs and those numbers don’t include their salaries.
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In that case....
We have everything to worry about if we’re under $10 million and still have 5-6 roster spots to fill….
by BahamaDolfan on Jan 20, 2012 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
Like I said before, we have ways to create much more space.
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NE will pull another ubelievable trade. Theyll blindside everyone by trading Welker like they did Moss.
Everyone will b like wtf, but somehow theyll have some no name thatll take his place and go to the pro bowl next year. LOL!
by D0lphins4Life on Jan 20, 2012 12:58 PM EST via mobile reply actions
crap...
thought we were in better shape than that
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"A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore." - Yogi Berra
We're not in that bad of shape.
We can make a number of moves to be in a better situation.
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I don't see a big problem here. They list 3 guys as key free agents and all 3 can be let go.
Our free agents are as follows:
Unrestricted Free Agents: Ike Alaima-Francis (OLB), Will Allen (CB), Vernon Carey (RG/RT), Marc Colombo (RTPOS), Chad Henne (QB), Kendall Langford (DE), J.P. Losman (QB), Marvin Mitchell (ILB), Steve Slaton (RB), Paul Soliai (NT)
Restricted Free Agents: Ryan Baker (DE/NT), Lex Hilliard (RB/FB), Phillip Merling (DE), Lydon Murtha (OT)
Exclusive Rights Free Agents: Jeron Mastrud (TE), Austin Spitler (ILB)
I did a full offseason mock up back in September including analyzing our Free Agency with Salary cap given particular attention. Here’s the snippet from the post.
The Dolphins are hurting at RT, RG, FS, Rush LB, and nickel CB. They will almost certainly be hurting at NT after this season since they were unable to lock down Soliai before the deadline (one of only 2 Franchise tags not to be signed I believe). This clearly means we have some work to do as far as improving the team but what about keeping the team’s strengths intact. Check out Miami’s free agents to come this offseason:Those salary numbers are for 2011. Considering that JT has retired, we can automatically eliminate 860K. Anyone think that Langford AND Merling both get retained? Axe another $770K (Low-Balling here since we could keep Merling instead) As I said back in September,
Vernon Carey ($2.5 mil), Chad Henne ($555K), Lex Hilliard (RFA-$480K), Kendall Langford ($1.4 mil), Jeron Mastrud (ERFA-$405K), Phillip Merling ($770K), Lydon Murtha (RFA-$480K), Igor Olsahnsky (? likely $760K 8yr-veteran minimum), Steve Slaton ($1.2 Mil), Paul Soliai ($12.38 Mil), Austin Spitler (ERFA-$405K), Jason Taylor (? at least $860K veteran minimum) for a total of $22.2 million
Well, let’s see we can start with the obvious and eliminate Soliai’s franchise $$, we should dump Vernon Carey, Olshansky, and Slaton or Hilliard since locking both up will require more than $2 mil and neither is set to start. I think we will go with Slaton since Clay should be taking over Hilliard’s spot and D. Thomas looking so strong. I however, will let go of Slaton. The good news is that this will save us anywhere from $16 million to $17 million ($18 million if Taylor retires AND we sign Hilliard instead of Slaton) to go put towards the other free agents and locking down draft picks/signing other free agents.Now for an updated analysis, Taylor did retire and I would still take Hilliard over Slaton (Week 17 aside unless Slaton signed for the same $$ or less). If we dump Soliai (Go back to Starks at NT or draft someone to fill the spot-Looking at Delvin Johnson from Marshall as an option) and Vernon Carey we would save $14.88 million. That brings us up to $16.22 million (Signed Slaton) or $16.94 (Signed Hilliard) freed up to tackle our next years salaries and about $10 million to go towards free agency. Dump Olshansky’s and Marc Colombo’s veteran minimums and we are right around $18 million freed up.
Now look at our known Upcoming Salary increases:
Y. Bell (0.6 Mil), D. Bess (0.4 mil), R. Bush (2.275 mil), DC$ (0.15 mil), n. Carroll (0.085 mil), C. Clemons (0.085 mil), R. Cook (0.3 mil), T. Culver (0.1 mil), K. Dansby (6.1 mil), V. Davis (3.99 mil), j. Denney (0.135 mil), A. Fasano (1.7 mil), B Fields (0.138 mil), N. Garner (0.6), B. Hartline (0.085), J. Jerry (0.085 mil), R. Jones (0.085 mil), J. Long (No Change), B. Marshall (-0.2 mil), K. Misi (0.085 mil), Matt Moore (No Change), Marlon Moore (0.085 mil), J. Odrick (0.1631 mil), S. Smith (0.085 mil), R. Starks (0.1 mil), C. Wake (0.085 mil), R. Wallace (0.085 mil). That is a grand total of: $17.4011 million.
Now there are several undisclosed contracts that the team has but most of them are last year’s draft class or of inconsequential roster fillers. The one exception may be Kevin Burnett but he is unlikely to have a big leap in his contract for his second of 4 years on a contract with 46.7% of the salary guaranteed. This means we are pretty much right where we were at the start of the 2011 season in terms of cap space. Estimates at that time put us at around $10 million remaining so there ya go. Personally, I say dump Fasano altogether which would eliminate his total salary for 2012 instead of just his raise so we can save the $3.6 million he is owed and draft a replacement. This would actually give us somewhere around $13 million available cap space to sign free agents.
As for Acquiring Free Agents
Offer Nicks a salary of around $4 million a year with a $20 million signing bonus for 5 seasons (Guarantee around 55% of the contract value – roughly $22 million) and it will only set us back $8 million per season. This deal could be structured so that the first year we only pay him $1.5 mil, then $2.5 mil, then $3.5mill, then $5.5 mil, then $7 mil. This would give us time to free up the remaining money while giving Nicks close to Logan Mankins type money and giving us time to get out from under some larger contracts like Y. Bell ($5.8 million cap hit in 2012). A similar deal could be proposed to bring Michael Griffin (FS-Tenn) here but it looks like it will have to be one or the other (Unless we dump Soliai and Fasano and possibly Y. Bell) If we were to acquire Griffin I wouldn’t miss Bell that much since I have every confidence that R. Jones could take up much of the slack left by Bell’s absence. I just don’t know if losing a major veteran presence on the defense is such a great idea. Put a gun to my head and I still dump Bell and Sign Griffin.
Any remaining $$ will have to have been dedicated to resigning the free agents we intend to keep.
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I got a reeeaaaal strange feeling we might use Marshall as trade bate and grab Dwayne Bowe in Free Agency...
by BahamaDolfan on Jan 20, 2012 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
Won't happen this year although next year is a distinct possiblity.
I could see it this year EXCEPT that Marshall’s contract has a guaranteed $7.1 million cap hit this season ($1.1 mil – Prorated Signing Bonus hit and $6 million of salary guaranteed since he wasn’t suspended before April 2, 2011) whether he puts a helmet on or not so most teams would see themselves as better off signing Bowe instead of trading for Marshall. Marshall’s current deal has 3 years and $30.8 million left on it. The only positive about trading for Marshall is you don’t have to worry about any guaranteed money beyond his signing bonus if you cut him before 2015 but who would trade for a guy you might cut inside 3 seasons with so many free agent WRs to throw money at? Financially the deal makes perfect sense for the Dolphins but it takes two to tango.
If Jeff Ireland manages to pull off that trade before Bowe gets signed (Let alone actually manage to sign Bowe on top of it) then the fans need to bow down and kiss his feet because he will have pulled off a miracle. It would be far more likely that Ireland sign Bowe to a back-loaded contract while retaining Marshall and then looking to unload Marshall after the 2013 season.
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by TheFinReaper on Jan 20, 2012 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
Meant to make it more clear but I think I failed upon re-reading. If we trade Marshall this offseason, we would be responsible for his remaining Signing Bonus Cap hit.
We owe Marshall $1.1 million a year for the next 3 years ($3.3 mil in total) that he is in a Dolphins uniform. If we were to trade him, the remaining amount would hit the cap immediately.
Acceleration also occurs when a player is traded or waived and picked up by another team. The new team is not responsible for any of the original signing bonus. The team that waived or traded the player is responsible for the accelerated signing bonusIn laymens terms, If we trade Marshall now we would have all $3.3 million in bonus money hit the cap for us even though he isn’t on the team anymore. So trading Marshall will cost us $3.3 million against the salary cap (As opposed to paying him $7.1 million to play) plus whatever cap hit we take on for signing Bowe.
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by TheFinReaper on Jan 20, 2012 2:39 PM EST up reply actions
Why would we do that?
Bowe will still be very expensive and then we have to swallow a cap hit from Marshall. If you think we’d do that for salary cap relief, it’d cost us more to actually pull off such a move.
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Forgot to point out that even if we did backloading of contracts we are unlikely to land more than 2 big name free agents. I listed Nicks and Griffin but that isn't necessarily the duo we would get.
Also the last sentence should say Any remaining $$ will have to have been dedicated to resigning the free agents we intend to keep and signing our 2012 draft picks. I didn’t list cap hits but if we cut Bell and signed Nicks to the structured contract I mentioned we would actually save money in 2012 ($5.5 mil cap hit vs. $5.8 mil) which would give us somewhere between $4.75 and $8.5 million to put towards free agent #2 per year IF we cut Fasano (Fasano and Bell would still be owed a combined $2.2 million in prorated signing bonus money).
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by TheFinReaper on Jan 20, 2012 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
Some corrections
This salary cap project does not include salaries for Carey, Soliai, Taylor and others. They do not have contracts for next season so the $115 mil number doesn’t include contracts from them. Letting Soliai walk does not lessen the contracts we have locked up for next year.
Now as for the case of Nicks, he will not come at $4 mil per year. Expect him to be between $6-8 million per year as an average salary. We can get Jake Scott for around $4 mil per year though and I’d be very happy if that happens.
While $10 mil doesn’t seem like a lot, there are numerous ways to improve that number. Surely there will be a few players cut. Departing FAs remember will not give us relief of that $10 mil number. Resigning players like Jake Long and Randy Starks, both entering the final years of their contracts, would give us a great deal of relief with the cap position. The same could be done with Yeremiah Bell, but he may simply be cut. Those moves right there could put Miami between $15-20 million under the cap. That is a good amount of space, especially with rookie salary contracts set. That puts Miami in position to possibly get both LaRon Landry and Jake Scott if they wanted. I do not expect Miami to dump Fasano as I don’t think they want to risk going into 2012 with Clay as their only TE option. Fasano is not expensive for a TE either. Don’t count on him being anywhere else except Miami.
Now, if Miami decides to stay in a 3-4, they could be in a pickle with Soliai. He’s not coming back under the franchise tag again, but Miami could try and resign him, but it could cost Miami a chance at Landry or Scott. Langford is likely gone no matter what system Miami runs because of Stark and Odrick.
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Some more corrections
This salary cap project does not include salaries for Carey, Soliai, Taylor and others. They do not have contracts for next season so the $115 mil number doesn’t include contracts from them. Letting Soliai walk does not lessen the contracts we have locked up for next year. I must presume you don’t mean what you wrote as it is written since it would be nonsensical in practicality. If we sign him he would be added to the contracts locked up for next year so letting him walk does provide relief versus the alternative.
Who said it did? ESPN? All my numbers are based off of last season’s salary numbers for our Free Agents and the 2012 numbers for those already signed beyond 2011. as for the letting Soliai walk thing goes, you are right that not signing him doesn’t take more money away from the cap hit but re-signing him certainly would add to the hit.
Now as for the case of Nicks, he will not come at $4 mil per year. Expect him to be between $6-8 million per year as an average salary. We can get Jake Scott for around $4 mil per year though and I’d be very happy if that happens.Re-read what I said. I said “Offer Nicks a salary of around $4 million a year with a $20 million signing bonus for 5 seasons (Guarantee around 55% of the contract value – roughly $22 million) and it will only set us back $8 million per season.” $20 million signing bonus prorated over 5 seasons is $4 million a year. Add that to a base salary of $4 million and you get $8 million a year. With the structured deal I mentioned Nicks would be getting $5.5 mil, $6.5 mil, $7.5 mil, $9.5 mil and $11 mil a season with $22 million guaranteed so why won’t he take that deal? I would sooner expect Scott to follow Fisher to St. Louis. Besides, Scott is little better than what we now have in Carey so why spend $4 mil when Carey will all but certainly sign here for less?.
I do not expect Miami to dump Fasano as I don’t think they want to risk going into 2012 with Clay as their only TE option. Fasano is not expensive for a TE either.Draft a replacement. There are plenty of prospects that can give a greater value return than Fasano. Hell, I would sooner cut Fasano and sign Scott Chandler for less money than hold onto Fasano. As for being expensive, he is overpaid for what he brings to the team. we need a real threat at TE and Fasano isn’t it. I’d rather see Clay and a draft pick get more opportunity to shine in 2012.
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by TheFinReaper on Jan 20, 2012 4:11 PM EST up reply actions
When I read your comment initially (read it a bit fast), I thought you were thinking we could save by letting Soliai go.
I don’t necessarily think Fisher is going to land all the Tennessee FAs. I think he may seek some players from there like Griffin and Finnegan, but STL needs help at OTs more than OGs. I expect STL to move Dahl from RT to RG, his natural position. Dahl was placed at RT out of need, but he is a very good Guard which is why I don’t think Scott may be a target for STL. He’s also much better than Vernon Carey. I can’t believe you made that comparison. Scott has graded out to be the 7th best OG in the NFL, better than Guards like Jahri Evans, Logan Mankins, and Ben Grubbs. By comparison, Carey was 44th. Scott was also 6th best in pass protection, an area Miami needs much help.
You make that draft seem like it’s easier said than done. Why would Miami release Fasano in March when the draft occurs in April and assume they can find a Day 1 starter? Who are we going to find. You can say Allen or Fleener, but what if they’re taken before Miami picks in the 2nd? People would be here criticizing Miami for getting weaker at TE, not stronger. Fasano isn’t making too much for a starting TE and there is no reason to dump him for salary cap relief, especially when I mentioned below how Miami can save much more money.
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When was Scott the 7th best guard? This season? How about the others before it? The man is 31 and was making about $5 mil a year prior to 2012. What is your source?
Regardless of Carey vs Scott, Nicks is better than both and worth the extra money given his age. As for TE, If we trade back then we can take either of them late in round 1. Regardless Fleener won’t be gone before pic #40 and even if they were we could take Ladarius Green or Michael Egnew in Round 3. Both would be better than Fasano. I’m also open to Chase Ford and/or David Paulson in Round 7.
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by TheFinReaper on Jan 20, 2012 5:40 PM EST up reply actions
Scott was the 7th best guard this year.
Nicks is better than Scott and Carey, but he’s much more expensive. Scott will be 31 next year and I don’t see a huge increase in salary for him. He will be the same age as Carey, but he’s much better and doesn’t have the injury problems.
Even if Miami were to trade down, they’d have to find a trading partner. That’s still a big gamble and I don’t know if Fleener can be a starter on his first day. Green, Egnew, Paulson, and Ford I certainly don’t see as immediate starters. Fasano is much better than you give him credit for and there is no need to cut his contract.
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Nicks is better than Scott and Carey, but he’s much more expensive. Scott will be 31 next year and I don’t see a huge increase in salary for him.
Nicks can be signed for $6-8 mil a year while Scott is coming off a deal that paid him $4.75 mil a year. So would you rather have the 31 year old scott for $5 million or the 27 year old Nicks for $8 million. I’ll spend the extra money to lock in a superior player with many more miles in the tank.
Fasano is much better than you give him credit forHe appears to be worse than you give him credit for and wouldn’t start for any of the playoff teams this year. Fasano is above average to good at best. He is a fine blocker but he is not a big threat in the passing game.
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by TheFinReaper on Jan 20, 2012 6:17 PM EST up reply actions
It's more than just who is better.
I’d much rather have Nicks. Would you rather have Nicks or Scott and Landry? That could be the difference with the salaries.
As for Fasano, I don’t think I’m overhyping him. He could start for NYG, Baltimore, Denver, and Cincy.
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He could start for NYG, Baltimore, Denver, and Cincy.
You are completely insane if you think Fasano would start over Jake Ballard (NYG), Todd Heap (Bal) or Jermaine Gresham (Cin). The only playoff team Fasano could have started for was Denver and even they would only start him because they don’t employ a passing attack TE.
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by TheFinReaper on Jan 20, 2012 8:19 PM EST up reply actions
Except I do think he could start over them.
He does very well with what he’s asked to do. Heap also plays in Arizona, not Baltimore. Oh, and Fasano is ranked as the 8th best TE in the NFL, ahead of those TEs you just mentioned. The fact that he’s not catching 50 passes a year isn’t because he can’t, but because he’s not asked to in Miami’s system.
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Where are you getting your rankings from? Provide link. I'm going on yards/reception and # of receptions.
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by TheFinReaper on Jan 20, 2012 10:16 PM EST up reply actions
I'm going from PFF.
It’s more than just receptions and yards. That’s not the only job of a TE. Now I don’t actually think Fasano is the 8th best TE in football, but you can’t just go on yards/receptions as the only standard to judge players, let alone a TE. Perhaps you think Antonio Brown is a better WR than Vincent Jackson, AJ Green, Steve Johnson, Andre Johnson, Reggie Wayne, and Greg Jennings because he has more yards and YPC?
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Hardly, but Fasano's strength is blocking not receiving.
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by TheFinReaper on Jan 20, 2012 10:53 PM EST up reply actions
I think he's a pretty good, not great receiver.
He doesn’t stretch the field, but he has reliable hands. There are far worse receiving TEs. I consider Fasano a mid-tier starting TE in the NFL.
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I think we'll see a few Tennessee guys go down to St. Louis.
I can see Michael Griffin going, Jake Scott, Finnegan. They got $43 million free cap space down there.
I’m starting to really think that we need to use this draft to fill a few holes. We need to make some real smart moves in the latter rounds like we did last year. Ireland made some great draft picks last year. I think the mantra has to be, stick with Moore, draft a QB to groom behind him, sign two free agents and fill the rest of the holes with draft picks and less heralded free agents.
I like your thinking
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by TheFinReaper on Jan 20, 2012 2:46 PM EST up reply actions
Ideal draft
1. Trade back 1st pick then acquire Tannehill.
2. OT Mike Adams.
3. Extra 2nd pick, grab pass rushing OLB Bruce Irving
4. OG Kevin Zeitler in 3rd.
5. TE Ladarius Green in the 4th.
6. 5th round, RB Brandon Bolden (solid north to south runner, can catch also and has a sneaky burst to get on the outside).
7. 6th, Kick Returner.
8. 7th rounder, TE Poulson.
Now, we don’t know precisely which pick we gave up for Bush, but I would be real happy with this draft.
by BahamaDolfan on Jan 20, 2012 3:13 PM EST up reply actions
Love your 4th Round pick but I think your 6th round pick is a huge waste (Not to mention I'm pretty sure it's the one we gave it to New Orleans)
I hate Ohio State but love the pick of Mike Adams. I would also go with Zeitler in Round 3 but I doubt he falls that far so I would take Markell Martin(FS-OSU) if he is there instead. I personally would swap your QB and OLB picks for Courtney Upshaw (If Available) and Nick Foles. If Upshaw is gone I would go with Melvin Ingram instead.
I would probably prefer to also sign Josh Chichester after the draft provided he goes undrafted and if he has a good pro day. Also I would sooner draft Chase Ford from Miami over David Paulson in Round 7 due to the measurables but hi performance in the East-West Shrine game tomorrow and his pro day could change that. I would also be patrolling the undrafteds for OGs and potential NTs such as Akiem Hicks.
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by TheFinReaper on Jan 20, 2012 3:53 PM EST up reply actions
Also to help clarify...
Since people are freaking out and thinking $10 mil is not a lot, I will clarify on this.
Again, Paul Soliai, Will Allen, Kendall Langford, Vernon Carey, and all of Miami’s free agents don’t have salaries projected for next year. Soliai had a $12 mil tag for this year, not next. Don’t think letting Soliai walk will free up more of that space. It won’t.
Miami has players such as Jake Long, Randy Starks, and Yeremiah Bell entering the final year of their contracts. Extensions will reduce the salary cap for 2012. Miami could also cut Bell. They could choose to cut Starks as well if they wanted to go with McDaniel (I hope they don’t). They could also just cut McDaniel for more relief.
Beyond player cuts and extensions, there are provisions this year in place. Teams can place $1.5 million cap exceptions on up to 3 players to provide salary cap relief. This was done with the new CBA to prevent waves of player cuts because of teams that were over the cap. This is the last year the exceptions can be used. Also, for the first time in NFL history, unused salary cap from 2011 can be rolled over into 2012, providing for more room.
Now that we have that settled, can people stop freaking out? That $10 million number in space can be increased an awful lot and can be done without having to cut quality players. Miami will be fine in 2012 and this doesn’t prevent them from going after higher priced FAs.
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also it should be stated that with Mike Nolan going to Atlanta
We may not require the services of Kendall Langford,Paul Soliai and Phillip Merling, though we may retain Merling for depth if we do in fact switch to a 4-3
I also think that we do not in fact have to go for a Ben Grubbs, and will possibly lose Carey and our RT wonderbread, though we will still be okay.
Looking at the cap we may see Ireland pull a Will Allen move with yerimiah bell, and we may see us stay with our qb situation retaining Henne until more fiscally solvent to draft a first rounder next year.
by dolphinfan4lyfe on Jan 20, 2012 4:26 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I don't see Henne returning to Miami.
We’re not in a bad cap situation and the draft won’t hurt us financially. There is nothing holding us back from moving on and trying to find a franchise QB, even if we thought it was Flynn.
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we will make more room
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