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New York Jets at Miami Dolphins: Dolphins end Jets' season with 19-17 victory

Give credit to the Dolphins for what they were able to do yesterday against the Jets. In addition to personally packing the Jets' golf clubs for them, Miami also A) got Santonio Holmes to reveal his pouty and selfish true colors on camera, B) potentially put the final nail in the coffin of Mark Sanchez's tenure as Jets quarterback (not that it took much), and C) reduced Rex Ryan to a stammering, cursing pile of black sweater vest on the sideline. After three seasons of ground n' pound offense and getting fat off of Darrelle Revis' presence in the secondary, the Jets are officially where the Dolphins were at the start of the 2011 season: a team unsure of its identity and without a franchise-caliber quarterback. And though Miami didn't have a particularly strong offensive performance yesterday against New York, the Dolphins' defense was good enough to ensure that the Jets won't play football again until next summer.

Star-divide

A bad day for anyone whose name begins with "San"

Sanchez got things rolling on offense midway through the first quarter with a snazzy, eight-play touchdown drive (made possible by a 41-yard completion that was thrown by wide receiver Jeremy Kerley), but then the Jets' offense basically went into the turtle position for the rest of the half (save for a Nick Folk field goal in the second quarter). Oddly enough, only a few of Sanchez's woes during the game were due to the Dolphins' pass rush, which registered just two sacks on the afternoon. Instead, Sanchez simply looked off when throwing the ball downfield, missing badly on several targets and carrying a genuinely befuddled look on his face while standing on the sideline.

And then Sanchez started throwing interceptions ... lots of them.

Three interceptions, to be exact . And all three picks were nabbed by Dolphins front-seven defenders (two by defensive end Randy Starks, one by linebacker Marvin Mitchell), thanks to some sloppy, rushed passing underneath. With the Jets' ground game unable to consistently move the offense yesterday, Gang Green desperately needed Sanchez to step up, stretch the field a bit and force the Dolphins to pull back and respect the passing game. Instead, he threw behind receivers and seemed to be a quarter-count late while going through his progressions. Maybe this poor performance was all because Sanchez had the weight of the world on his shoulders after leading his team to slaughter against the Giants on Christmas Eve. Who knows? Nevertheless, it's hard to envision the Jets going into the 2012 season with the belief that their quarterback position is taken care of. Quite the contrary. Sanchez needs a lot of work, and I don't know if he's even salvageable at this point.

You know what else wasn't salvageable? Santonio Holmes' virtual no-show and subsequent fourth-quarter benching in Miami yesterday--a disinterested performance that drew the ire of none other than teammate LaDainian Tomlinson.

It isn't surprising to see dissension in the ranks of an brash, insecure team that came up short of the playoffs for the first time since 2008; what is surprising, however, is that it took this long for Jets players to start feasting on each other in the press and locker room. This is supposed to be an NFL product that is fan- and family-friendly entertainment? The family of murderous cannibals from The Texas Chainsaw Massacre was more dignified and respectable than this current Jets team! Go ahead and attribute this chaos to Rex Ryan, too, because the Jets' approach to the game (mainly consisting of bullying and getting g**d*** snacks) is absolutely a product of their head coach.

Anyway, Holmes was held catchless for the first time in 88 contests, so the Dolphins have that going for them ... which is nice.

You call that offense?

It's a good thing the Dolphins' defense brought its lunch pail yesterday, because Miami's offense looked considerably flat through most of the game. Sure, Dolphins quarterback Matt Moore led a highly impressive, 21-play scoring drive that was capped with a Charles Clay touchdown, but Miami's inability to get anything going downfield was troubling, perhaps even maddening. Also, running back Daniel Thomas looked like he was running head-first into a WWE turnbuckle every time he hit the line of scrimmage, and we really can't have that kind of soft running in a guy who was drafted to be a premier power back.

Still, that 21-play drive was a sight to behold, featuring six conversions on third down and a sweet touchdown throw from Moore to Clay in the shallow portion of the end zone. That's the kind of play that makes you sit back and think, "Maybe this guy should be starting for us next season."

Speaking of third-down conversions, the Dolphins were 8-15 on the afternoon, which is a whole lot better than the conversion rate they had during the previous three games. I'll take those numbers any day.

So long, Jason Taylor

Yesterday's game marked the last for Dolphins great Jason Taylor, and it's safe to say Miami may never again see a defensive end as great as No.99. Sadly, he could probably play another five seasons, and he looked as good as ever on that fumble recovery touchdown late in the fourth quarter (the fumble call was changed to down by contact, nullifying the score). One more Air Jordan leap across the goal line would've been an appropriate end to Taylor's 15-year career, no?

Quick hits

-I soooooo did not think Dan Carpenter had the leg for that 58-yard field goal attempt right before halftime. Instead, he practically kicked the ball into orbit, looking like Pete Stoyanovich during his early '90s prime.

-Did anyone else watch the Cowboys/Giants game tonight and worry about the fact that Rob Ryan could be our next coach? I certainly did. I can't even fathom watching those walruses coaching against each other twice a season.

-With the win yesterday, the Dolphins finish the 2011 season with a record of 6-10, which means they'll have the No.9 pick in the 2012 draft.

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How does the draft order go then?

Who gets picks 1-8? I think it is safe to say we need to go get that franchise QB. It is the one thing holding us back at this point. Not to take anything away from what Moore has done for us this year, but we could have seen a Pennington-esque season had he actually been with the team more than a couple of weeks and been the starter going into the season.

We had [Brady] down… but we didn’t kick him. We helped him up and gave him a PowerPuff Girls band-aid for his knee. What exactly did you expect would happen when we did that?

by Jason Scott_90 on Jan 2, 2012 6:25 AM EST reply actions  

But at this point we only have one QB on our roster...

And we desperately need to have that QB of the future taking up one of those backup spots. Moore comes in with the starting job unless we somehow move up and land Andrew Luck. Even if we draft RG3 he is not good enough and proven enough to warrant giving him the job. Luck is a little different I think, though.

We had [Brady] down… but we didn’t kick him. We helped him up and gave him a PowerPuff Girls band-aid for his knee. What exactly did you expect would happen when we did that?

by Jason Scott_90 on Jan 2, 2012 6:28 AM EST up reply actions  

This is the draft order through pick 20 (with the rest being decided in the playoffs)

1. Indianapolis Colts, 2-14
2. St. Louis Rams, 2-14
3. Minnesota Vikings, 3-13
4. Cleveland Browns, 4-12
5. Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 4-12
6. Washington Redskins, 5-11
7. Jacksonville Jaguars, 5-11
8. Carolina Panthers, 6-10
9. Miami Dolphins, 6-10
10. Buffalo Bills, 6-10
11. Seattle Seahawks, 7-9*
12. Kansas City Chiefs, 7-9*
13. Arizona Cardinals, 8-8
14. Dallas Cowboys, 8-8
15. Philadelphia Eagles, 8-8
16. New York Jets, 8-8
17. Cincinnati Bengals (from Oakland Raiders, 8-8)
18. San Diego Chargers, 8-8
19. Chicago Bears, 8-8
20. Tennessee Titans, 9-7

Also we do have three Quarterbacks on hte orster, Matt Moore, J.P. Losman and Pat Devlin are all on the active roster.

As for RG3 and Andrew Luck I can’t see either one of them making it out of the top 5. Quarterbacks are simply too valuable in the NFL and Quarterbacks of their caliber go extremely quickly off the board. I firmly believe that if we are to make a move for either it will require a costly trade into the Top 5, possibly even jumping the Browns at four.

I also believe that after both Luck and RG3 are off the board we will see multiple prospects go higher than they probably should simply because of the importance of the position. I think Tannehill and Landry Jones will both go in the top 15 easily, and Jones may go as 6 to Washington or 7-8 with a trade. Tannehill soon after and as some have detailed already finding a Franchise Quarterback in FA is always extremely difficult. So understanding where we are with Matt Moore is vital.

2008 AFC EAST Champions.

by civwarbuff on Jan 2, 2012 10:02 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Well said...

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- Groucho Marx
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by Alpha6 on Jan 2, 2012 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree... If we want either Luck or RG3 we need to move up to get them...

That said we need to pull the trigger. As well as Matt Moore has played there is only one position that we can draft that will improve us to the point that we are in every game-QB. True we have some holes. But it has been 13 years since Marino retired and it is high time we do whatever it takes and get our guy.

We had [Brady] down… but we didn’t kick him. We helped him up and gave him a PowerPuff Girls band-aid for his knee. What exactly did you expect would happen when we did that?

by Jason Scott_90 on Jan 2, 2012 1:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Great game and great way to end a terrible season

and a great final game to one of the greatest Dolphins ever.

by Maguss on Jan 2, 2012 6:44 AM EST reply actions  

The 9th pick...

Doubt we can get RG3.. We might have to pay Flynn some big bucks, it might be worth it!

by Goon305Boy10 on Jan 2, 2012 6:48 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Flynn and Manning may be our ticket in landing RG3.

Get the best man to clear every hurdle that stand in the Dolphins way, go RG3.
RG3, the new Transformer of the future.

by fin4three5yrs on Jan 2, 2012 6:50 AM EST up reply actions  

I hope your right.

I’ll be satisfied with any of the three QBs. This is going to be one hell of an offseason.

by Goon305Boy10 on Jan 2, 2012 7:00 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Its going to be an interesting offseason for sure starting with who is the next HC for the Dolphins.

"Theyas no fawking qwatahback!"-Anonymous Patriots fan at seeing the Wildcat formation for the first time.
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by texascowpunk on Jan 2, 2012 11:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Proud of Moore and the Defense

Anticipated an ugly game, especially being minus of a few key players. While Moore may not be our long term answer at QB, he do deserve to lead this team heading into the 2012 season, no matter what qb we draft. After losses in the 4th qtr to Cleveland, Denver, NYG, Dallas, and the Pats, it was exhilerating to see a qb not throw the game away and our defense rise up to the challenge in crunch time.

Get the best man to clear every hurdle that stand in the Dolphins way, go RG3.
RG3, the new Transformer of the future.

by fin4three5yrs on Jan 2, 2012 6:49 AM EST reply actions  

Good Post

I whole heartedly agree about Blob Ryan. I am hoping that with him and fat boy’s failures of late , that we don’t have to worry about the endless nonsence coming out of Miami next year. Or maybe he would accidently eat “fIreland” and choke to death on his arm bone or something. That would be a win-win for us.

by Northern Fin Fan on Jan 2, 2012 6:53 AM EST reply actions  

What if Rob Ryan is willing to keep Mike Nolan as DC?

Don’t you think a Nolan-Ryan defense sounds good?

_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ TE MP [RI] RF MC JJ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _SE
FL_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ SC __ FB
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _QB_ _ _ _ _ Direct Snap WildSCAT Option Attack

by DolphDallas on Jan 2, 2012 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Why? Rob Ryan has done NOTHING. I am not even sure why his name gets batted around as a possibility.

Seriously he has had one defense ranked over 14th and the rest have been an exhibition in how to suck. How does that resume make him a HC candidate? Seems similar to a Shula boy once getting a HC job in the NFL even though he could not coach a HS team. Luckily he seems to be better at running his dads steak houses.

"Theyas no fawking qwatahback!"-Anonymous Patriots fan at seeing the Wildcat formation for the first time.
As of 01/01/2012 an officially ordained priest of the Church Of The Latter Day Dude

by texascowpunk on Jan 2, 2012 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

sorry...I just thought Nolan-Ryan sounded cool

Worked for the Texas Rangers…sort of…

_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ TE MP [RI] RF MC JJ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _SE
FL_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ SC __ FB
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _QB_ _ _ _ _ Direct Snap WildSCAT Option Attack

by DolphDallas on Jan 2, 2012 11:53 AM EST up reply actions  

LOL The best thing the Rangers have ever done is to hire Nolan to run the whole thing.

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As of 01/01/2012 an officially ordained priest of the Church Of The Latter Day Dude

by texascowpunk on Jan 2, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I bet Sherman is coach next season

Official Driver of the 'Fire Everyone and Hire Someone' Wagon.

by Farorefox on Jan 2, 2012 7:32 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

This^

"Theyas no fawking qwatahback!"-Anonymous Patriots fan at seeing the Wildcat formation for the first time.
As of 01/01/2012 an officially ordained priest of the Church Of The Latter Day Dude

by texascowpunk on Jan 2, 2012 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

BOOT!

Founder of the Sherman-Griffin bandwagon.

by Farorefox on Jan 2, 2012 12:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Wrong on the second part but the first might be correct.

"Theyas no fawking qwatahback!"-Anonymous Patriots fan at seeing the Wildcat formation for the first time.
As of 01/01/2012 an officially ordained priest of the Church Of The Latter Day Dude

by texascowpunk on Jan 2, 2012 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I hope....

He is my first choice… But I wouldn’t be upset if we went out and landed Gruden, Cohwer or Fisher either.

We had [Brady] down… but we didn’t kick him. We helped him up and gave him a PowerPuff Girls band-aid for his knee. What exactly did you expect would happen when we did that?

by Jason Scott_90 on Jan 2, 2012 1:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Just say no to Gruden.

"Theyas no fawking qwatahback!"-Anonymous Patriots fan at seeing the Wildcat formation for the first time.
As of 01/01/2012 an officially ordained priest of the Church Of The Latter Day Dude

by texascowpunk on Jan 2, 2012 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I like Fisher, Chud and Billick

Probably in that order

I'm ALL- IN. Do whatever it takes to get Andrew Luck or RGIII to Miami in 2012.
Laces out!
-2008 AFC East Champions-
BRANDON MARSHALL- FUTURE MIAMI HOF WR!!!!!
Tom Brandstater- more TD's than completions. Last person to tell him that's not possible, well, nobody has seen him since.

by BSerious72 on Jan 2, 2012 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Mike? Idk about that....

A woman is an occasional pleasure but a cigar is always a smoke.
- Groucho Marx
Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. -H.L. Mencken.
"Never miss an opportunity to make others happy, even if you have to leave them alone in order to do it."
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."

by Alpha6 on Jan 2, 2012 12:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Forget Luck, Flynn or RGIII...

Get us some Terrance Ganaway. Matt Moore had the timing, all the throws, and plenty of leadership skills to continue as our starting QB for 2012. He actually made the acquisition of Brandon Marshall look smart…. finally. Those two, given a full set of offseason workouts, camp and preseason, will gel the way they were starting to towards the end of this season. Sure, Matt Flynn was impressive against the Lions yesterday, but Detroit had never seen him before then. It’s like all these teams seeing Tebow for the first time and getting beat. He didn’t look like a worldbeater yesterday, though, did he? What did he have, 60-something yards passing? That’s a number even Henne would sneer at.
But getting back to Ganaway -the kid is listed as 6-0, 240. But the way he ran around, over, and away from defenders this year, he’s like a baby DeAngelo Williams. He capped off a regular season of 1347 yards in 229 carries (5.9 yds/carry) and 16 TD’s with an Alamo Bowl performance of 21 rushes for 200 yards (9.5 per carry!) and 5 touchdowns. Some of those TD’s, he simply burst through the line and ran away from the D. With him and a healthy Bush in the backfield, tossing in a smattering of Thomas, they’d be like the Earth, Wind and Fire combo the Giants used to beat the previously undefeated Pats in SB 42.
Sure, Ganaway isn’t listed yet as a top RB pick, but check back after the Senior Bowl and Combine, and I’m betting he’ll be touted as 1st round material.

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by FLIslesfan22 on Jan 2, 2012 9:20 AM EST reply actions  

Wasn't he part of the Kardashian Ascendancy?

I don't mind sucking for Luck - but I draw the line at swallowing.

by nickzi on Jan 2, 2012 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes, I've heard of bush...

lol

A woman is an occasional pleasure but a cigar is always a smoke.
- Groucho Marx
Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. -H.L. Mencken.
"Never miss an opportunity to make others happy, even if you have to leave them alone in order to do it."
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."

by Alpha6 on Jan 2, 2012 12:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Not fond of bush, personally.

Wait, what were we talking about again?

Founder of the Sherman-Griffin bandwagon.

by Farorefox on Jan 2, 2012 12:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I'm sorry but...

did you read the whole post?
With him and a healthy Bush in the backfield, tossing in a smattering of Thomas, they’d be like the Earth, Wind and Fire combo the Giants used to beat the previously undefeated Pats in SB 42.
I’m not suggesting Bush is done after his knee injury, or that he can’t be effective unless he gets every carry. I’m just saying that Thomas, Ganaway and Bush could be just like Jacobs, Bradshaw and Ward were for the 2007-8 G-men who took out New England. Add the receivers we already have with a QB they know better and the offensive issues will take care of themselves.

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by FLIslesfan22 on Jan 2, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Nonsense...

If we want our offense to take the step to the next level we have to go QB. Otherwise a deep throw will be a spectacular play, not the norm.

We had [Brady] down… but we didn’t kick him. We helped him up and gave him a PowerPuff Girls band-aid for his knee. What exactly did you expect would happen when we did that?

by Jason Scott_90 on Jan 2, 2012 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

why in the world we would draft a RB in the first round...

Seriously?

And if we do it sure as hell better be Trent Richardson, which IMO would still be a dumb pick

I'm ALL- IN. Do whatever it takes to get Andrew Luck or RGIII to Miami in 2012.
Laces out!
-2008 AFC East Champions-
BRANDON MARSHALL- FUTURE MIAMI HOF WR!!!!!
Tom Brandstater- more TD's than completions. Last person to tell him that's not possible, well, nobody has seen him since.

by BSerious72 on Jan 2, 2012 2:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Based on draft value points...

We’d have to literally trade away our first four picks this year to compensate for the #1 pick. Moreover, the price for high picks just went WAY up this year now that the rookie salary scale is in place. Bad teams are going to want to keep high picks.

Obviously, there are other scenarios, but I think moving up to #1 isn’t going to happen. A compelling scenario would be to move up to Cleveland’s spot at #4… which would likely only cost us our #1 and #2 picks this year (based on points).

Whatever we do, I hope that any move we make has short-term consequences in the draft… i.e; I don’t want to trade away our #1 picks for the next three years to get one guy… because nobody is proven in the NFL until their actually in the NFL.

by DrJay32 on Jan 2, 2012 9:33 AM EST reply actions  

Is that all we need to trade? seriously?

If that is the case… PULL THE TRIGGER NOW! I will be seriously upset if I find out they would have taken 4 picks to move up to take the best QB to come out of college since Manning and we did not make that deal before the end of the day today.

We had [Brady] down… but we didn’t kick him. We helped him up and gave him a PowerPuff Girls band-aid for his knee. What exactly did you expect would happen when we did that?

by Jason Scott_90 on Jan 2, 2012 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I know you are concentrating on head coach right now...

But seriously. Land that first pick in the draft, and you will be able to draw a head coach much easier…

We had [Brady] down… but we didn’t kick him. We helped him up and gave him a PowerPuff Girls band-aid for his knee. What exactly did you expect would happen when we did that?

by Jason Scott_90 on Jan 2, 2012 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

agreeeeeeeeee

I'm ALL- IN. Do whatever it takes to get Andrew Luck or RGIII to Miami in 2012.
Laces out!
-2008 AFC East Champions-
BRANDON MARSHALL- FUTURE MIAMI HOF WR!!!!!
Tom Brandstater- more TD's than completions. Last person to tell him that's not possible, well, nobody has seen him since.

by BSerious72 on Jan 2, 2012 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Draft Pick

Dolphins and Panther will flip a coin to decide who picks 8th with the loser obviously picking 9th

by NYPHIN24 on Jan 2, 2012 11:12 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

THISSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

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Henne Beleiver '12....oh wait...never mind

by Rytackle on Jan 2, 2012 11:13 AM EST up reply actions  

... you snake, you...

lol

A woman is an occasional pleasure but a cigar is always a smoke.
- Groucho Marx
Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. -H.L. Mencken.
"Never miss an opportunity to make others happy, even if you have to leave them alone in order to do it."
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."

by Alpha6 on Jan 2, 2012 12:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I kind of like the idea of some hot Ryan on Ryan coaching action

Call it the Sumo Bowl when the Jets come to town.

Otherwise: “Hell, no!” – to any suggestion of bringing Mr Flubbly-Wubbly’s Cowgirl Defense to South Beach.

I don't mind sucking for Luck - but I draw the line at swallowing.

by nickzi on Jan 2, 2012 11:23 AM EST reply actions  

Excellent intro.. loved the read... rec'd.

A woman is an occasional pleasure but a cigar is always a smoke.
- Groucho Marx
Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. -H.L. Mencken.
"Never miss an opportunity to make others happy, even if you have to leave them alone in order to do it."
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."

by Alpha6 on Jan 2, 2012 12:06 PM EST reply actions  

Santonio Holmes was escorted out of the facility

with boxes in hand by PR officials of the organization. They might have cut him.

2008 AFC EAST Champions.

by civwarbuff on Jan 2, 2012 12:36 PM EST reply actions  

Probably not

I am sure they want him gone, but the Jets will most likely try and get something back for him via a trade. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Belichick offer them a 4th/5th rounder.

I don't mind sucking for Luck - but I draw the line at swallowing.

by nickzi on Jan 2, 2012 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow.

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by texascowpunk on Jan 2, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Fun win to watch, even if it hurts us a bit in the draft

1. Dan Carpenter demonstrated last year in the Cleveland Browns game that he can kick 60 yarders. It was also a kick right before halftime.

2. I still believe, very strongly, that Andrew Luck and Peyton Manning will not be on the same team next year. The Colts need to make a choice – do they want to win this year or do they want to build for the future? If they want to win THIS YEAR, they need to re-sign their veterans who are free agents, and in the draft, try to acquire starters for RIGHT NOW, meaning in the first 3 rounds (usually).

If they draft Andrew Luck at #1, and keep both Manning and Luck, they will have used up their only first round pick on someone who, if all goes well, will not start all year.
Moreover, even with the rookie wage scale, the #1 overall pick, if he’s a QB, can expect a deal similar to Cam Newton’s 4 year, $22 million ($5 million a year) deal. You cannot re-sign a ton of veteran free agents and have over $30 million a year (1/4 of the salary cap!) tied up in the QB position. That’s why I like the salary cap in the NFL – it forces teams to make choices.

If they draft Andrew Luck at #1, and trade him for MULTIPLE FIRST and SECOND ROUND PICKS, they can patch up their weaknesses at corner, O-line, and linebacker immediately, making them title contenders. If they don’t trade him, Manning might as well bail for a team committed to winning a Super Bowl in the next 3-4 years.

by MartinH04 on Jan 2, 2012 12:43 PM EST reply actions  

Sign Peyton Manning when they cut him...

Then draft RG3 to back him up for a few years. I would even be happy if we did that, and stayed put and grabbed someone like Landry Jones. Give him a few years behind Manning and see what he could do.

We had [Brady] down… but we didn’t kick him. We helped him up and gave him a PowerPuff Girls band-aid for his knee. What exactly did you expect would happen when we did that?

by Jason Scott_90 on Jan 2, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

There's no way that the Colts just cut Manning

No-one lets go a franchise QB of that level until he’s either obviously senile or too banged-up to play.

I don't mind sucking for Luck - but I draw the line at swallowing.

by nickzi on Jan 2, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Or if you, the team is about to absorb a huge cap hit in an enormous bonus.

It might not happen but in this case, because of the money involved it makes a lot of sense especially coupled with the fact that they have the number one pick. Not your normal situation by any means.

"Theyas no fawking qwatahback!"-Anonymous Patriots fan at seeing the Wildcat formation for the first time.
As of 01/01/2012 an officially ordained priest of the Church Of The Latter Day Dude

by texascowpunk on Jan 2, 2012 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

The Colts' onwer recently said

He had no problem paying Manning that bonus.

I don't mind sucking for Luck - but I draw the line at swallowing.

by nickzi on Jan 2, 2012 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

And? Do you believe everything these people say?

"Theyas no fawking qwatahback!"-Anonymous Patriots fan at seeing the Wildcat formation for the first time.
As of 01/01/2012 an officially ordained priest of the Church Of The Latter Day Dude

by texascowpunk on Jan 2, 2012 4:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I believe them over someone who has no connection to the Colts, yes.

I don't mind sucking for Luck - but I draw the line at swallowing.

by nickzi on Jan 2, 2012 7:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Not my point. My point is that these people say lots of things.

I guess you also believe these owners that say a coach is safe and then fire them two weeks later? These guys say a lot of things for effect and sometimes they just change their minds.

"Theyas no fawking qwatahback!"-Anonymous Patriots fan at seeing the Wildcat formation for the first time.
As of 01/01/2012 an officially ordained priest of the Church Of The Latter Day Dude

by texascowpunk on Jan 3, 2012 9:18 AM EST up reply actions  

IMO, I wouldn't mind Matt Moore leading the team for part of next year

If that means we bring in a rookie QB to compete with him and to eventually replace him
Moore is by no means a bad QB, he can certainly get the job done at times. But he will never be an elite QB, which is what we need now

by insainsiren on Jan 2, 2012 2:13 PM EST reply actions  

My "quickhits" if you will...

-Today, more than they have all season long, the losses to the Browns, TEBOWWWWWW, Giants, and Cowboys are sitting in my gut like the manchild inside Rex Ryan’s stomach. If we just could have put a harder hit on Massaquoi in the endzone. If we could have just gotten a first down against Tebow Time. If we could have just not played the 4th quarter against the Giants. If Matt Moore would have just ran for that first down at the Dallas 10 instead of throwing it out of the endzone and taking 3 instead of 7. Ugh.

- Matt Flynn played a showcase game yesterday. He was “pimped” if you will. Go out, throw the ball a thousand times and make yourself look good for the next team that wants Ryan Fitzpatricks twin brother at QB. I hope we don’t drink the koolaide.

-Barring the signing of someone completely idiotic…this offseason is going to be fun. It’s Dolphin Christmas if you will. A new head coach, a top 10 draft pick, free agency, a new QB? I can’t freaking wait!

-Herm Edwards always talked about how he split the season up into 4 quarters. Every 4 games, they started with a fresh record. If you break up the Dolphins 2011 campaign they went… 0-4, 1-3, 3-1, 2-2. Once this team shook out the lockout hangover, they went 6-3. If you give this team a full season together, we could have at least made it interesting. At the bare minimum. I think the fact that we had such a strong second half truly shows that the lockout hurt us more than other teams. It was bound to happen to someone, and it caught us square on the jaw. I believe in Matt Moore, I believe in Reggie Bush, I believe in Brandon Marshall when he isn’t around sharp objects. Get rid of Mark Colombo and I believe in humanity as a whole.

-As a 23 year old, Jason Taylor was my childhood. I used to go outside and pretend to be JT, Zach Thomas, Patrick Surtain and Sam Madison all the time, playing against fake offenses and lobbing the ball to myself for heroic INT’s. All these years, every Dolphins game I watch, every sack we get, I draw the circle and punch the hole. It just won’t be the same without 99 on the field. Jason Taylor has done so much for this franchise, and has been a key part of my dolphin fandome. I once dated a girl in high school for the sole reason that she not only was hot, but was a Dolphins fan, and regularly wore a JT jersey to school in the fall. Finding a woman like that in central Pennsylvania was hard to come by. Ahhh, the old days. But I digress. Watching JT get hoisted off the field was very emotional for me. I think we truly have turned the page on the era of Dolphins football. It’s time for new leaders, and new legends. Jason Taylor is one of the good guys in a sport where ego’s fill the locker room. Thanks for all those memories JT, Canton is waiting for you.

-Can the Dolphins please wear a throwback at least once a year? Is that so much to ask for? Every other team does it for no reason at all, why shouldn’t we? I’d love for just one afternoon to see the Dolphins donning the grey facemasks and the horizontally striped socks.

-The Sanchize is such a joke. Nice Miami vice jacket yesterday before the game dude. I guess if you’re gonna play like a joke you better dress like it as well.

-Mosul, straight up props on the “Caddyshack” reference…. “so the Dolphins have that going for them … which is nice.” Big hitter, the Lama. haha. Great write up, and fantastic job all season long.

-The Dolphins are undefeated this year!

by Phin-Up or Shut-Up on Jan 2, 2012 2:28 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Loved reading this comment, Phin Up. Thanks for the kind words ... except I am not Mosul. lol

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by kmb8488 on Jan 2, 2012 4:00 PM EST up reply actions  

You don't even look like Mosul!

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by texascowpunk on Jan 2, 2012 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

hahaha

Wow, my apologies. It was one of those mistakes where you know it’s wrong but for whatever reason you do it anyway. I think I have concussion like symptoms after playing some pond hockey this weekend. Haha. I’ll just rub some dirt on it. Great write up kmb! Your recap every Monday and select Tuesdays have plagued my planning period at school every week. Thanks for the distraction!!!

by Phin-Up or Shut-Up on Jan 2, 2012 7:22 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

qb

am i the only one that feels that the dolphins should re-sign Chadd Henne???

by Mark Barnes on Jan 2, 2012 2:38 PM EST reply actions  

Yes.

"Theyas no fawking qwatahback!"-Anonymous Patriots fan at seeing the Wildcat formation for the first time.
As of 01/01/2012 an officially ordained priest of the Church Of The Latter Day Dude

by texascowpunk on Jan 2, 2012 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

hahaha

Looks like Henne’s Mom found the Phinsider.

by Phin-Up or Shut-Up on Jan 2, 2012 7:24 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

He has a right to his opinion. I just dont agree and do not see it happening.

"Theyas no fawking qwatahback!"-Anonymous Patriots fan at seeing the Wildcat formation for the first time.
As of 01/01/2012 an officially ordained priest of the Church Of The Latter Day Dude

by texascowpunk on Jan 3, 2012 9:19 AM EST up reply actions  

A few points I have been pondering the past few weeks

1. Daniel Thomas should be switched to Fullback regardless of who is on roster. In the end the move would allow for Clay to play opposite Fasano on 2 tight end sets and possibly take care of our need to find a second Tight end. Not only this but we wouldnt use a FB every down so it may lengthen DTs career and kill two birds with one stone after seeing how Clay has handled blocking duties. The league no longer calls for a traditional fullback anymore.

2. I really think our Outside Linebacker opposite Wake is already on our roster. Whether we go 4-3 or 3-4 we should allow Dansby a chance to play outside, he has prooven he can do it with Arizona at the 4-3 but it could be a move that can salvage the situation with our secondary. This would move Marvin Mitchell to a starting position in the 3-4 & give us a ’backer that can assist with coverage on the outside.

3. Starks has solidified his spot on the team even though he raised his value. 2 picks one day. Not even making half what Soliai makes, he has reaffirmed to me that we should make the transition to a 4-3 or even a 4-4-3 that would mask our issues in the secondary.

4. Moves like these allow us to mask our deficiencies til we are better suited to address them. It would swap our needs from being NT OLB FS and CB, to simply finding a number 2 corner and allowing ourselves to move Sean Smith to a roving position in the backfield of our D.

by dolphinfan4lyfe on Jan 2, 2012 2:42 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

if the Fins couldn't go I'm happy they stopped the YETS

Wonder where “jet boy” is since this game? Home crying I hope thanks to the better team – when big Rex tells the team to play Yets football – that;s exactly what they do – they lose. HAHAHAHAHAHAAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

by incognito1948 on Jan 6, 2012 1:57 PM EST reply actions  

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