How MANNING to the Dolphins MIGHT happen
Ahhh, rumors. With the internest, ESPN, and so many print and TV reporters out there, who knows what is correct and what is just an opinion based on little factual information. But the rumor and "what if" game is fun to play, so I'll participate.
Let's say that Manning works himself out of the Colts and comes free AND is healthy enough to play next year (I'm thinking all this will happen). And let's say that Flynn does not get tagged by the Packers (possibly a Transition tag, but most likely not) and is free to sign wherever. And lastly, let's say that Kolb stays in Arizona (makes sense they would give him one more year to get comfortable there with the system and players).
So we have 2 highly sought after QB's (Manning, Flynn), 2 highly sought after rookies (Luck, RGIII), and a few second tier QB's on the market (Orten, Henne, Campbell, possibly a few others).
The teams looking for QB's seem to be Washington, Miami, and Seattle, followed by (to a lesser extent) Cleveland and Kansas City. Teams like Jacksonville, NY Jets, and maybe another surprise team looking for competition for their young QB's. I'm also assuming A. Smith stays in SF after his run through the playoffs this year.
So what makes the most sense?
Luck to the Colts, obviously.
I think Cleveland stays with McCoy, takes one of the second tier QB's to compete (Henne would look good there I think), and takes Trent Richardson to help their anemic ground game (Peyton Hillis experiment is over).
Not the fun part. Washington. Reports say (from 2 sources I've heard) that Manning/Shanahan are not a good fit. The offensive style that Shanahan preaches is very, very much not compatible with what Manning does best. So this leaves either Flynn or RGIII. If he is looking for baby Elway (similar to Griese, Cutler), then I think you have to lean toward Shanahan going all in on RGIII in the draft. Part of me says that he would prefer to have an experienced QB in there and is on the clock with Snyder, but it just seems to me RGIII "fits" a lot better than Flynn does.
So does Miami cash in on Flynn if they come to this same conclusion? Or will Seattle jump into the mix and see if they can make magic happen twice with GB 2nd string QB's (Hasselback a decade ago)? I'm thinking Miami won't go all in with the salary demands Flynn might have due to the work Moore put in during the second half of 2011. I'm just not sure the Dolphins will be sold that Flynn will be that much of an upgrade to Moore and will most likely cost $30-50 million to sign. Seattle will though, having less QB options in place, so Flynn signs with Seattle for basically more cash and a 100% chance of starting (vs. competing with Moore in Miami or with Cassell in KC or Sanchez in NY).
So....this leaves Orton and Manning. Does Orton like it in KC and is he willing to fight for the starting job next year with Matt Cassell? Does Manning see the NY Jets as an option with their locker room issues to get a chance to play in the same city as Eli? Only Manning knows this and I do think there is a chance he might head to the Jets despite everyone going all out on defending Sanchez over the past week.
I do think Manning makes a lot of sense for the Dolphins. An owner who wants to make a splash. An owner who will be willing to pay huge dollars at him. A new coach to work with where he can share power in calling plays and setting up a system that he likes. The Dolphins in perfect position to draft an OT giving Manning a great line to work behind. The Dolphins have a good defense that could get better with a pass rusher or quality free safety. The Dolphins also have above average weapons at RB and WR and possibly can get another TE in the draft.
And don't underestimate the competitiveness of someone like Manning. Being in Miami would allow him to go against Brady 2x a year and would allow him to challenge himself with the "other" best QB of the last decade.
So I'm pushing Manning to the Dolphins, Orton to the Chiefs, and Campbell to the Jets.
I think that might be an offseason Dolphins fans could get excited about. Even if it means drafting another OT/OG in the first round!!
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I like the sound of this and I like the conspiracy behind it all Great post and read.
Manninng is by far my favorite player in the NFL. So this would just make me cream my pants. Sorry probablly TMI. LOL! either way great post once again.
Peyton will be a COlt next year or wont be playing. He may even get into coaching. He pretty much already is the coach of that team.
but nice read and a long shot, but still solid read
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I am still betting that he is cut loose before his giant pay day.
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by texascowpunk on Jan 19, 2012 9:12 PM EST up reply actions
hay check this outtwo QB saleries, nice if you can aford that !
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Chyt; cha aint seen the worst tilo youd seen the least - Henne to Marshall compleat two year descreption!
by wild zion beaver on Jan 20, 2012 12:49 AM EST up reply actions
I doubt it, I can't see how the Colts can keep him and play him over Luck
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The thought of Manning as Miami QB is fascinating
It would certainly put asses in seats, which is undoubtedly a concern of Ross (or any owner).
It frees up the draft for some other needs. Manning could come into Miami with a really solid line.
If I was Brandon Marshall or Brian Hartline I’d have the chubbs just thinking about it.
Peyton is a competitor
If Peyton is healthy enough to play, and I understand that is a BIG if, then he will not retire and will continue to play. The Colts have a huge choice on their hands, but in the end, I see them choosing Luck of Manning when it comes to protecting the team for the next decade. If they keep Manning, pay him the huge $28 million bonus, and then draft Luck, they are in for a dogfight when it comes to dealing with Luck and his family. I don’t think Andrew or his dad Oliver left school a year early to sit behind anyone for year or two, regardless of who it is. i think the Colts are too smart for this and will move on from Manning. Every offseason move they’ve made so far seems to confirm their willingness and desire for a new beginning for the team (GM fired, President fired, coach fired, etc.).
I can see it
The Colts won’t take Luck and keep Manning. If we did sign him my wife would be an instant Dolphan fan and our asses would travel from So. Cal to South Beach for a game next season. Come on Ross lets make this dream come true.
i actually think its not a total pipe dream, and if you have luck its a total waste to pay manning 28 mil even if healthy and have luck back up, luck needs to start right away that team is rebuilding and could you imagine if peyton is healthy and ross prob will go after him, especially if the colts just cut him loose before owing him the 28 mil, and we draft riley rieff and give payton a brick wall to throw behind without having to sacrifice the future for a qb who doesnt know how to take snaps from under center with rg3, it’d be a dream come true thats for sure, but all i can do is pray we dont draft rg3 and pray colts cut manning and ross reels in the biggest free agent fish in history!!!
It's hard for people to imagine someone like Manning playing on another team, but it happens.
Brett Favre to the Jets and Vikings, Joe Montana on the Chiefs.
it sounds plausible
but, on the other hand, this same kind of analysis may also lead to RGIII to the Phins.
Here’s how:
Luck to Indy,
Cleveland sings veteran help (Orton, Campbell) and drafts RB & WR in round 1,
Washington signs Flynn;
Miami drafts RGIII (barring a Seattle trade up -unlikely, as of now).
I definitly do not see Manning and Luck together on one team.
I do see Clev using both of their picks to fill up one of the many holes they have got.
This leaves Manning out but do not rule out a surprise team (Jets, KC) for him.
However, I would sign up for both of these scenarios.
Greenbays ex-GM is in seattle i dont thinks Washington gets Flynn in my humble opinion!
wopper "the king" computer
We often look rite past the positive's cuz the negative's-r-so hard they dominate! Have you touched & preened your beaver-pelt yet!
Chyt; cha aint seen the worst tilo youd seen the least - Henne to Marshall compleat two year descreption!
by wild zion beaver on Jan 20, 2012 7:10 AM EST up reply actions
Manning?
Interesting. The kicker will be if Philbin is Miami’s head coach, whether he will stay with Moore or sign Flynn? Or Maybe the redskins will make a shot at Flynn?
I dnt want manning, it's high risk (injuries and ow much does he have left in the tank) and not worth the potential reward
And let’s say it did work out and he had three years left to help us contend, three years from now we’d be right back in this same situation of a QB search.
I’d rather take a youngster who can provide at LEAST 10 years for us, so we don’t have to worry about the position for a while, and maybe win some shiny stuff
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You would have 3 years to find that youngster...
More of Moore in 2012!
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QB's in the draft every year
I think if the Dolphins get Manning, they should still take a QB in the draft each year that Manning would be here. Hopefully one would show potential and pan out, especially with Manning as a mentor in front of them, so that when Manning retires the young QB would be ready to play immediately.
by douglaskoehne on Jan 20, 2012 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
Great post, kind of a wild theory, but you backed it up well
This situation is so fluid right now, it’s hard to tell what might happen. Sometimes I’m convinced Peyton will retire, but at the same time he is such a competitor, that I can’t envision him retiring just yet.
It would be great to get him, and also have a solid prospect or two developing behind him. I CAN’T see him staying in Indy with Luck or RGIII there.
As of now the possibilities are (as I see them):
Peyton doesn’t heal well and retires.
Peyton will play, and Colts release him due to huge $ owed to him and new QB.
Peyton will play and remains a Colt, which allows the franchise to trade first pick for more picks or players or both.
Everyone’s talking about the first two, but that roster needs some love, and Irsay could reload very quickly with Peyton on board and a host of picks/players to plug in. It seems unlikely though considering the Colts have said through the media that they are “rebuilding”. I think you do that with a new QB….
......and the rats devour each other as the ship goes down......
Good point
I think those are the 4 options with Peyton as well. Before the season ended, I thought there was still a strong possibility that Peyton would somehow, someway, remain a Colt, but with everything the Colts have done this offseason so far, I think him staying is less and less likely. Just heard on the radio the Colts sacked 8 other coaches. This is a COMPLETE overhaul. Just can’t see Manning in that situation now.
My order for who I'd want starting next year
Brees
Luck
RGIII
Manning
Flynn
Moore
Kolb
I'm ALL- IN. Do whatever it takes to get Andrew Luck or RGIII to Miami in 2012.
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