A Broader Look at QB's
In regards to some possible quarterback scenarios that may play out among teams who are in the market for a new signal caller, I must admit, I have been looking at such possibilities rather narrowly. Like many of you, I am stuck on this mentality that....Ok, we need a QB, we are drafting 8th/9th, and the only two legit franchise QB prospects are expected to be long gone by then since there are arguably 3 or 4 teams that are in the same or worst position as we are (Indy, Cleveland, Washington, and maybe TB or Jacksonville). Therefore, we must either mortgage the future for by trading away countless top draft picks for RGIII or throw a ton of money at Matt Flynn (neither of which I am not completely opposed to).
What I have been failing to do, and this may just be the inner optimist in me desperately trying to force its way out, is also understand that, besides Matt Flynn, P. Manning is possibly an option for one of the aforementioned teams. Also, from what I have been reading, K. Kolb may be a possibility for a team as well. Personally, I would love if Kolb hit the market some how, not because I want him anywhere near the Dolphins lockeroom, but because it would naturally eliminate someone from the RGIII/Flynn sweepstakes. I do not feel that Kolb leaving is likely. But Manning leaving is certainly more of a possibility. Who couldn't see a team like the Redskins snagging a guy like Manning, who some say have a few good years left in him?
So, let's think about this possible scenario based on these QB needy teams......
Indy - Luck
Cleveland - Flynn
Washington - Manning
Miami - RGIII?
**Kolb is the long shot but hey, I have seen crazier things happen.
The reason I have Flynn hypothetically going to Cleveland is because Flynn has proven he can play in the brutal Cleveland weather. If the Browns really thought this through, they would certainly understand that they are guarnteed to play two games against Cincy, Two against Pitt, and of course those late November-January home games along the snow belt in Cleveland. RGIII, like Colt McCoy, is a Texas boy, and Texas sure as hell ain't Northeast Ohio. One thing I underestimated as a kid who lived my whole life in south Florida and then went to play college football as a quarterback at Kent State (20 minutes from Cleveland) was how difficult of a transition it was to go from playing playoff games in late November in Palm Beach County where it was 75 degrees with that beatiful, light ocean breeze, to going to playing in weather I did not know was even possible (I mean what the hell is an ice storm? I thought they meant hail). Don't get me wrong, RGIII is better than I could be in three lifetimes and may be good enough to adjust, but this should not be taken lightly.
With that being said, RGIII would be tough for anyone to pass up, but it may not be so simple for a team like Cleveland, or at least shouldn't be. Although I am a pessimist, this is just another way to look at things, especially because any if not all of these deals would likely take place well before the draft.
What do you guys think about any or all of these scenarios playing out?
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I'm still not sold on CLE going QB but it absolutely could happen
WASH is the wildcard. I can see Snyder and Shanihan lobbying for Flynn, Manning AND RG3 so I’m not really sure what our options will be once they pick, its unfortunate they pick before us so if we really want RGIII (which I do) we will most likely have to trade up.
I'm ALL- IN. Do whatever it takes to get Andrew Luck or RGIII to Miami in 2012.
Laces out!
-2008 AFC East Champions-
BRANDON MARSHALL- FUTURE MIAMI HOF WR!!!!!
Tom Brandstater- more TD's than completions. Last person to tell him that's not possible, well, nobody has seen him since.
Philbin.......
The kicker to this is if Philbin is Miami coach Flynn may sign with Miami and solve Miami’s QB problem. I think its likely Peyton will sign somewhere. Whether or not its the redskins is a question only time will solve.
Luck, RG3/Flynn, Manning, Kolb. Kolb will serve as nothing but a consolation prize for a team that doesn't get any of the others.
Personally, I would love if Kolb hit the market some how, not because I want him anywhere near the Dolphins lockeroom, but because it would naturally eliminate someone from the RGIII/Flynn sweepstakes.
Kolb won’t eliminate NE1 from the RG3/Flynn sweepstakes. Kolb would be the scraps that falls to whoever is left after RG3 and Flynn are gone since they would be seen as better choices than Kolb.
NY Jets = NFL's Chicago Cubs
There's a fine line between hopeful and desperate. Just look @ Jets fans.
Weather a factor??
Sorry, but, if you’re getting paid millions to play football, then rain, sleet snow or ice storms are things you’ll have to adjust to.
As for your scenarios, Kolb got paid too much to let be loose after 1 season. Manning and Ersay are pretty close. If he can play, then he’ll stay.
Come on Buddha, Its not weather it should or should not be a factor, it is whether it is or is not a factor, if you ever played football down south AND up north, especially quarterback, you would know it makes a difference. Just because someone is getting paid a ton of money, does not mean someone WILL or CAN adjust, even if he should. I’m with you that if I pay someone a ton of money he better do everything possible to adapt, but that does not mean it is going to happen. Especially if you do not have big giant hands. I will say this though, one advantage RGIII has over Flynn is arm strength which is a big factor when throwing into those cold wind gusts. But ask yourself why for years, Miami and Tampa Bay would have a horrible winning percentage in games that were played below 40 degrees.
by The Scarecrow on Jan 19, 2012 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed...
I guess I worded that wrong. I don’t think that an organizations decision to/not to draft a player will be based on where they’re from, weather-wise. You are correct, a player will do his best to adjust and it might not work. LOL, I was raised in Hawaii myself, but have lived in Germany, N.Dakota, Montana, Wyoming and currently Colorado. The cold gets old, but, I’m not playing football either…
by Simple Buddha on Jan 19, 2012 3:18 PM EST up reply actions
TRADE DOWN
The dolphins should trade down and try to get a tackle and dwayne allen. We are all talking about trading up but what about trading down and getting a bunch of really good players. Maybe get a good pass rushing linebacker, right tackle, dwayne allen or even a receiver? Trading down would bring in a bunch of good players and that would be the "smart move." What if matt moore is the real deal? Get this team more talent and find out this year is what i say…. If he isn’t then we go after Barkley next year who will come in with a talented team just like were giving to Moore this year by trading down! AND ENOUGH WITH THIS WASTE OUR 2ND ROUND PICK ON TANNEHILL OR FOLES! DRAFT TALENTED PIECES NOT BUMS!
by edgeofgreatness11 on Jan 19, 2012 2:51 PM EST reply actions
How is Kolb going to be available?
I havent heard of this.. I’m holding my breath until someone answers me.
a wise man once said..."My cats breath smells like cat food"
My love for THE MIAMI DOLPHINS is unconditional...period!
Win for pride, Win for us fans!
God I hope we can knock the Jets out of the playoffs, I couldn't imagine despising a team and fan base more.
Go Dolphins!
Have you passed out yet?
"Theyas no fawking qwatahback!"-Anonymous Patriots fan at seeing the Wildcat formation for the first time.
by texascowpunk on Jan 19, 2012 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
You may have just saved a life sir!
"Theyas no fawking qwatahback!"-Anonymous Patriots fan at seeing the Wildcat formation for the first time.
by texascowpunk on Jan 19, 2012 3:11 PM EST up reply actions
just woke up from blacking out...
alpha revived me with some warm yellow water….
thank for the info
a wise man once said..."My cats breath smells like cat food"
My love for THE MIAMI DOLPHINS is unconditional...period!
Win for pride, Win for us fans!
God I hope we can knock the Jets out of the playoffs, I couldn't imagine despising a team and fan base more.
Go Dolphins!
by Phinphinatic on Jan 19, 2012 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
Um you keep your sex life off the blog please.
"Theyas no fawking qwatahback!"-Anonymous Patriots fan at seeing the Wildcat formation for the first time.
by texascowpunk on Jan 19, 2012 3:18 PM EST up reply actions
there wasnt any consensual sex here
a wise man once said..."My cats breath smells like cat food"
My love for THE MIAMI DOLPHINS is unconditional...period!
Win for pride, Win for us fans!
God I hope we can knock the Jets out of the playoffs, I couldn't imagine despising a team and fan base more.
Go Dolphins!
by Phinphinatic on Jan 19, 2012 3:19 PM EST up reply actions
Well Alpha does not own several dart guns for no reason.
"Theyas no fawking qwatahback!"-Anonymous Patriots fan at seeing the Wildcat formation for the first time.
by texascowpunk on Jan 19, 2012 3:27 PM EST up reply actions
lol
a wise man once said..."My cats breath smells like cat food"
My love for THE MIAMI DOLPHINS is unconditional...period!
Win for pride, Win for us fans!
God I hope we can knock the Jets out of the playoffs, I couldn't imagine despising a team and fan base more.
Go Dolphins!
by Phinphinatic on Jan 19, 2012 4:00 PM EST up reply actions
News is Washington is VERY interested in Flynn
Which is good news for us… If we hire McCoy, which we probably will… it’s beginning to look like we will be right in the RG3 hunt… all we would need to do is get by Cleveland.
If Cleveland takes Griffin, and Washington goes with Flynn however, Miami might be stuck with Moore unless we try to make something happen for Peyton.
I'm ALL- IN. Do whatever it takes to get Andrew Luck or RGIII to Miami in 2012.
Laces out!
-2008 AFC East Champions-
BRANDON MARSHALL- FUTURE MIAMI HOF WR!!!!!
Tom Brandstater- more TD's than completions. Last person to tell him that's not possible, well, nobody has seen him since.
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/4949/matt-flynn
Link
I'm ALL- IN. Do whatever it takes to get Andrew Luck or RGIII to Miami in 2012.
Laces out!
-2008 AFC East Champions-
BRANDON MARSHALL- FUTURE MIAMI HOF WR!!!!!
Tom Brandstater- more TD's than completions. Last person to tell him that's not possible, well, nobody has seen him since.
Here-
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/4949/matt-flynn
"Theyas no fawking qwatahback!"-Anonymous Patriots fan at seeing the Wildcat formation for the first time.
by texascowpunk on Jan 19, 2012 5:13 PM EST up reply actions
sorry i speacial
I'm ALL- IN. Do whatever it takes to get Andrew Luck or RGIII to Miami in 2012.
Laces out!
-2008 AFC East Champions-
BRANDON MARSHALL- FUTURE MIAMI HOF WR!!!!!
Tom Brandstater- more TD's than completions. Last person to tell him that's not possible, well, nobody has seen him since.
No worries. I was just getting your back.
"Theyas no fawking qwatahback!"-Anonymous Patriots fan at seeing the Wildcat formation for the first time.
by texascowpunk on Jan 19, 2012 6:08 PM EST up reply actions
Looks like Cleveland is more likely to draft RG3.
The Colt experiment was a flop, and if Holmgren trades down 3 yrs straight then there will be a revolt in Cleveland. But you guys will be ok, you have a strong roster regardless.

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