Why Miami Dolphin's Chances Of Getting RGIII Is Better Than You Think
by ChrisTheGod5 on Jan 15, 2012 2:42 PM EST
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I believe that a majority if not all Miami fans agree that the Dolphin's need to become serious about their QB situation. Enough is enough and Miami needs to go all in on a QB and settle this once and for all. Although I do like Nick Foles in the second round we can not take chances on late round QB's anymore. We need to take a chance on a QB in the first round because to be completely honest it is embarrassing in how our QB situation has been handled over time since Marino.
Back on topic, sorry I went off on a tangent on how the QB situation has been handled. It just drives me crazy. Miami I believe has better chance to get RGIII than most people believe and I will explain further.
First I will list teams that might be aiming for a QB in first round:
Their our others but none I believe that will be going for a QB in first round or willing to trade up.
Scenarios that I believe will happen:
Indianapolis Colts- Everybody knows who they will be taking here, Andrew Luck.
St. Louis Rams- I believe this is the spot that will be traded. Reasons why, well 1. Jeff Fisher will want to rebuild team to the way he wants so Rams will need a quantity of draft picks. 2. Even though Fisher is not high on Sam Bradford he wouldn't draft RGIII and start a QB controversy in year one. 3. I do not believe Matt Kalil will be taken here as their our many quality tackles in this draft, Riley Reiff, Jonathan Martin, Zebrie Sanders. 4. If Fisher is looking for a weapon for Bradford than Michael Floyd should still be available were the Dolphins draft or Alshon Jeffrey might even slide to them.
Washington Redskins- The number 2 consensus to get RGIII other than Cleveland. Well lets look at the man in charge Mike Shanahan. Mike loves his veterans and we have seen this in the past Jake Plummer and Bubby Brister. When he has drafted QBs it was late in third round with Brian Griese. Not to mention the rumblings suggesting Dan Snyder is getting impatient with Mike. With all these factors in affect Mike does not have time to draft and groom QB, they will get another veteran and that veteran will be Matt Flynn. Look for a ridiculous contract like the one of Albert Haynesworth got from Washington. I am not saying same money or years but a contract that will surprise you like the Hayneswotrh one did. I can see Alshon Jeffrey drafted here to give Flynn a weapon.
Seattle Seahawks- I believe Pete Carrol loves RGIII but there is now way Fisher is trading out of the Top 10 unless it is a ridiculous offer. I do not believe Seattle has enough to offer. I can see Carrol reaching for Tannehill. They can not continue with their current QB situation.
Cleveland Browns- The number 1 consensus to get RGIII. I believe Mike Holmgren has not given up on Colt McCoy yet:
Browns President Mike Holmgren said he "loves" McCoy, "thinks he can be the franchise quarterback", but isn't "ready to anoint him yet", according to the Browns' official site.
Whether this is smoke and mirrors or not I do believe Mike believes in McCoy still because he did show some promise when Peyton Hillis was giving Colt a rush game. That is why the Browns will select Trent Richardson or give McCoy a weapon in Justin Blackmon. Holmgren will make this the year for McCoy to prove he is the one. Cleveland will also use both first round picks because lets face it the Browns need help on both sides, not to trade up for one player.
Miami Dolphins- So now that leaves Miami. Miami has been QB starved for a while now and it is time. Ross messed up twice with coaches and he has to be embarrassed he will look to make a splash to redeem himself and he will get Ireland to do whatever to get RGIII. Ross wants somebody that will put people in the seats and a player that is exciting well does RGIII sound anymore like a perfect fit. That is why I believe we will get a HC that is offensive minded to help with QB grooming and I hope that HC is Chud because we saw what he did with Newton and it was promising.
This is why Miami's chances of getting RGIII is better than you think. RGIII will be a Miami Dolphin and even if RGIII does not workout at least Miami finally took a shot at a QB in the first round.
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Draft RGIII
If RGIII is there when Miami selects I certainly hope they would draft him. I do not think Miami should trade up for RGIII. The cost is too high.
Cost of trading up
Two first round picks is too high, which is a minimum of what it would take, assuming Miami trades up to the #2 spot. What may be doable is a trade up to tampa’s spot, assuming cleveland doesn’t draft RGIII. It may cost a 2nd and 3rd round pick, though maybe Miami could throw in a player instead of one of the picks.
Two 1st round picks is nothing for a talent like RG3.
I am more than willing to give this years 1st & 2nd and next years 1st with maybe a 2013 mid round pick. I would prefer to throw in a player in lieu of the 2nd if possible (not sure who though).
If it's the Rams we trade with
we could probably tempt them pretty well with Sean Smith maybe. The Rams were decimated at CB this past season, they put 10 CBs on IR. They might jump at the chance on a corner (which is also position of need for them) in addition to a few picks.
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by Chupathingy on Jan 16, 2012 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
We have a lot of pieces that a crappy team like the Rams could use.
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by texascowpunk on Jan 16, 2012 1:19 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
As long as we package Columbo in it than I'm in.
I'm ALL- IN. Do whatever it takes to get Andrew Luck or RGIII to Miami in 2012.
Laces out!
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No we would have to pay them to take him.
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by texascowpunk on Jan 16, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions
If its two first rounders then I do it in a second. Don't even stop to think about it.
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by texascowpunk on Jan 16, 2012 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
duh.
we’d still have the rest of the draft. and we won’t even have to worry about QB for ATLEAST 5 years.
2 first rounders to move up 5 spots, even if we throw in a 3rd or 4th it’s still a NO BRAINER in my book.
I'm ALL- IN. Do whatever it takes to get Andrew Luck or RGIII to Miami in 2012.
Laces out!
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Tom Brandstater- more TD's than completions. Last person to tell him that's not possible, well, nobody has seen him since.
I agree. Also throw in Nicky. Whatever it takes.
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by texascowpunk on Jan 16, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions
Good point. Nicky you live to see another day
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by texascowpunk on Jan 16, 2012 6:13 PM EST up reply actions
I agree 100%
I don’t know if a trade will be made but I guarantee that Ireland will be working the phones as much as possible to move up. Every interview I have seen with Ross and Ireland they have both stated they will attempt to address the “QB situation”.
I also like the Baylor connection with Ireland. I wouldn’t be surprised if he has some old contacts at Baylor and has actually been keeping a close eye on him for a few years (people tend to pay close attention to what is happening at their alma mater).
I remain "cautiously optimistic"...they claimed they would address it last year
Though we are in perfect position this year to trade up.
I don’t care what they have to give up…we’ve failed at everything else to find a QB since the late 90’s, but we haven’t tried drafting one in the first round with his potential. Sure, there’s a chance he’s not that great, but there’s just as big a chance that he is, more than any other of our failed QB experiments.
Well we could go with a proven QB like Daunte Culpepper or AJ Feely
or a ready QB in the draft like John Beck………….. Oh wait we have already tried that. lol
I thought one of the reasons Jeff wanted to go to the Rams is because of Sam
either way they won’t take RG3
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No one really knows why but it seems plausible.
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by texascowpunk on Jan 16, 2012 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
I picked the fins out of hope...
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How do you know they won't go after Flynn?
This is the same team that thought they were set with John Beck and Rex Grossman.
or Manning
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by Little Nicky 21 on Jan 15, 2012 10:16 PM EST up reply actions
Or Henne? Oh yeah never mind!
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by texascowpunk on Jan 16, 2012 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
dang...
why does everyone want to take a chance insted of waiting and get what we want, trading our future picks for a QB the organization doesnt want is stupid imo
IM HUNGRY, FEED THE WOLF
we are going to have to trade for a QB eventually
because the team isn’t bad enough to get a top 5 pick, but we won’t be a consistent contender until we have a Franchise QB.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Jan 15, 2012 10:17 PM EST up reply actions
Why?
Because it’s something every successful franchise does? I’m sorry, but trading for your franchise QB is not a recipe for success. Which is why it’s rarely ever done.
I used to think I had a drinking problem.
So I stopped thinking.
It is rarely done because teams either:
A) have a franchise QB (or at least think they do) or
B) because they don’t have said QB they suck so bad they have a top 5 pick
We don’t fit into category a or b so we have to do something to remedy the situation. I don’t know about you but I don’t want another AJ Feely, Daunte Culpepper, Chad Henne or John Beck. We have tried everything but draft a 1st round graded QB (there are 2 in this draft).
Ummmmm....
Obviously I was talking about teams without a franchise QB. Why would a team with a franchise QB trade for one?
The reason it’s rarely done, isn’t because of a or b. It’s because GMs don’t like to mortgage their futures. I’m all for drafting a 1st round QB, but I’m not in favor of crippling our teams drafts in the process.
I used to think I had a drinking problem.
So I stopped thinking.
or we can just go 8-8 every year
It's a bold strategy Cotton, let's see if it pays off...
I'm ALL- IN. Do whatever it takes to get Andrew Luck or RGIII to Miami in 2012.
Laces out!
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LMFAO I think thats the first time that anyone has called him Cotton. Brilliant!
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by texascowpunk on Jan 16, 2012 4:36 PM EST up reply actions
but.
whos to say RG3 is the guy? wait for the solid pick, thats the problem with this fan base, if they trade all we got we flip the script and say there stupid and want everyone fired cause we got 3 picks in next years draft
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voted with my heart, not my head..
I mean, seriously if we don’t throw it all in now to get this guy, when are we going to get our guy?
We had [Brady] down… but we didn’t kick him. We helped him up and gave him a PowerPuff Girls band-aid for his knee. What exactly did you expect would happen when we did that?
by Jason Scott_90 on Jan 15, 2012 10:34 PM EST reply actions
What if we get the #2 spot in the draft, get Khalil.... and go for Flynn??
that would be amazing
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by el presidente 00 on Jan 15, 2012 10:52 PM EST reply actions
Kalil over RG3?
RG3 and Carl Nicks would be better than Kalil and Flynn
We would throw money at Matt Flynn like the Bills did with Fitzpatrick on a knee jerk reaction. He’s a former 7th rounder, the odds he’s the new Tom Brady seem slim.
by hbkDolphins on Jan 15, 2012 11:44 PM EST up reply actions
Why trade so many draft picks for Kalil?
Riley Reiff is more likely to be available at 9 (or 8 if we win the coin toss) and he is an excellent OT prospect, a lot think just as good as Kalil.
What if the Rams draft RGIII
and offered up Bradford for your #9 pick?
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