Miami Dolphins Coaching Search Continues: So Now What?

I want some substance behind what I heard (good things) about Winston Moss and hopefully they will at least interview the guy on monday before making any rash decisions.

I’d rather the dolphins take their time and interview everyone they can that’s available than announce tomorrow.

Parcells was there to be there vp until we called him and he flew down here and now the falcons are in the playoffs every year and we are well you know

The conclusion to the Fisher saga is what I do like about our FO (Ross/Ireland). I’m glad they didn’t hand everything over to Fisher. IF we could have gotten him as a coach and coach only, that would’ve been great. But he doesn’t deserve Belicheck $, and I don’t want him having that much power. I actually like Ireland and want to see him in control of personnel.

Chud to me is CamCam 2.0, Zimmer is a D guy which means Nolan would be gone……When you take a closer look at Toub, doesn’t seem all that bad especially considering a few good HCs have gone that route.

Does anyone have an answer as to why Nolan is not being considered?

I just read a scathing article by Jason Cole on Yahoo, laughing at Ross for being so inept as to NOT give full control of the organization to FIsher. It’s an outrageous take on the situation. FIrst of all, giving a head coach full personnel control never really works. You are right about Holmgren, but its also true about our buddy Parcells, who never won a thing when he “shopped for the groceries.” And speaking of never winning anything, even if Ross were inclined to give full control to a coach, why would he do so to a guy like FIsher, with his mediocre record? I like Fisher, but the guys who have been given the kind of control he was looking for all had at least one ring when they got it. Not FIsher. So, to me, this was an owner making a prudent decision that is better for the organization, rather than giving too much power to a slightly above .500 head coach in order to make a splash and win a bidding war. Wise move, IMO….

I don’t really care about Fisher. I am more concerned about Ross just saying “to hell with it” and just settling for some average coach. As long as he does due diligence we should be alright. He does need to learn how to do things without making them a freaking circus though.

I want the team to keep Nolan as DC, and maybe make Daboll an assisstant such as QB.

If we decide to get Toub, I will not be upset. Yes, he’s a special teams coach. But maybe, just maybe he turns out to be like John Harbaugh.

just starting the next 5-years of mediocrity ….. no big deal

He was a QB himself and outside of Chud, their may not be a better coach to groom a young QB.

Mike McCoy, Chud, Philbin, or Carmichael Jr. Those are the guys we need to take good hard looks at.

But, I have stated numerous times that I really like Toub..I feel he could be better than Fisher…but Fisher was more of a safe and popular pick because of his experience!
That being said SP coaches manage players form both side of the ball, Toub has impressed his present coach & former…both stating that he would make a good HC someday….+ it is said his attention to detail is A+++++…..+ he commands respect!

…enroute to a blowout victory where the camera pauses on Fisher’s face…sad, frustrated and disappointed in his bad team and in his bad decisions. Perhaps even the gray in his ’stache looking more dominant than ever.

The only real bad part of Fisher choosing the Rams is that it gives the media another reason to fire their wordplay diarhea at Miami and Ross. It gets old. I’d like to see positive things said about the team occasionally.

I’m confident that a new coach inherits a competing team that’s hungry to won for him. I’ll certainly support whoever comes on board.

Philbin, Pete Carmichael, and Winston Moss. I know a lot of people like Chud, but i would prefer a guy who is coming straight out of a winning atmosphere. Modeling a team and an organization after the Packers or Saints certainly wouldnt be the worst thing in the world. and im not just talking about modeling personal decisions like those teams, but also modeling ourself after 2 of the most classy organizations in recent years….

A coach who oeprates as a general manager, or vice president with final say in personnel, typically does not do well. Mike Holmgren struggled in Seattle when he had both powers. It’s not an easy thing to do.

You are right, it is not an easy thing to do, but it has been done. Jimmy Johnson was pretty successful at it in Dallas. And Mike Holmgren went to a Super Bowl in Seattle, let’s not forget that. Those are just two examples. I am sure there are others.

Miami has a plan. Trust them to execute it.

I am sure they do have a plan. If that is the case, then don’t leak the plan to the media. It has been all over the place that Ross wanted to “make a splash” and “hire an experienced HC”. When Fisher became the only experienced HC available, again it was all over the media, that the Dolphins “would not be outbid” for Fisher’s services. If the plan was to get an experienced HC, then Ross, Ireland, and company didn’t execute the plan.

One of the problems with the Dolphins since the Trifecta (and Ross) has got on board is messaging. If the right message doesn’t get out to the media, and by extension the fan base, or the message is not executed properly, the fans and the media take a negative view of the organization. Based on attendance last year, I think it is obvious that has happened.

Let’s look at the last 12 months of mistakes in messaging. It started with the flight west to convince Harbaugh to become HC. Then came the statement that the Phins were going to bring in a veteran QB to compete with Henne. Then their was the very public pursuit of Orton, that failed. Now you have the “experienced HC” search.

Whether you agree or disagree with what Ross and Ireland have done the last 12 months, I think that we can all agree that the spin or messaging of what they have tried to do has failed. IMO, it has failed miserably.

Part of this failed messaging I put on Ireland, simply because he NEVER addresses the media. He is the GM and now in charge of the football operations. If that is the case, why is Ross giving the interviews discussing the direction of the football team?

Until this organization gets the messaging right, they will continue to allow critics to be very vocal. They will continue to generate negative press. Steady organizations are on message, from the owner all the way down to the HC and coordinators (hell maybe even the ball boy). Steady organizations only leak things to the media that puts them in a positive light. Until the Phins master this (and start winning playoff games), negativity will follow them.

Wouldn;t give Fisher final decisions on personell??? ESPN is reporting that Fisher would have signed with Miami pending.

Tageted the right guy again. Couldn’t close the deal again. I see a trend.

They did make some progress however – at least they had the decency to fire the HC before they started courting Fisher – so I guess I should look at the positive there right.

Face this team is going to be New England’s punching bag until Belichick retires or dies – Organizationally it’s no contest. Fisher and or Harbaugh could have closed the gap …… now? Foget about it!!!

I really want to know who it is they are interviewing today…

Usually, you want a head coach that’s at least been an OC or DC. I was surprised to see a ST guy up for the job. Any background on him that makes him stand out?

you need to ask questions to get answers

what makes you think they WILL hire the right guy?

I WANT to believe that – unfortunately i CAN’T.

The Marino years were great but they never won the big game there. but at least they were relevant. But its been over a decade now since this organization has been relevant and missing out on fisher is another brick in the wall.

so pardon my skepticism but my money is on them hiring the wrong guy – being mediocre to poor for another 3-5 years and starting the process over AGAIN. This is like a bad movie that you watch more than once ….. this is like that crappy Patrick Swayse movie Roadhouse ….. freakin torturous.

This guy was using us as leverage the whole time. He is a Midwest guy and had the opportunity to pick the GM in St Louis if he went there. Who is going to pass that up? I would still like to see Chip Kelly get an interview. He has the mental make-up to be successful. My guess for who we get? Zimmer! He is the only one with Dallas ties. Oh well…..

Ross wants a young Don Shula? Didn’t Don Shula have a significant input with personell decisions?

makes it appear he was really torn when all along a trade negotiation was going on so we can swap with the Rams at pic 2, Get RG III & Rams get more of our picks because they have more rebuilding to do!