2012 Free Agent Targets for the Miami Dolphins: Breaking down the QBs
Last week I posted the first of many Friday editions about free agency. Again, as free agency gets under way, I will do recaps of the week's moves and I'll pay more attention to the moves made by the Dolphins and AFC East clubs. Still, we're a bit a ways from free agency so for now we'll look at free agents by position and who Miami could target out of those positions. The first week will start with the most important position on the team, the QB.
Notable QBs available:
Drew Brees: Don't expect him to be there. I list him because technically, he will be a free agent. If he doesn't receive the franchise tag and hits free agency, every member of New Orleans' front office should be fired.
Matt Flynn: His recent outing against the Lions just helped earn him another few million per year. Suddenly he's the highest prospect at QB that legitimately has a great chance to hit free agency unless Peyton Manning's option is declined.
Kyle Orton: Miami had the opportunity to trade for him in August, but they declined due to the price tag. They can get him for much cheaper in March.
Jason Campbell: He has always had pretty good talent, but has been plagued by inconsistency. His future with Oakland is done with Carson Palmer on board now. Campbell will land himself with a franchise, but he won't be given the starting position without having to fight someone for it.
Chad Henne: Let's face it, the current Dolphin probably won't be a Dolphin in March. His chance of returning has been squandered by the emergence of Matt Moore.
Donovan McNabb: An aging QB that is better suited to tutoring a young QB. Except McNabb sees himself as a great QB and isn't interested in mentoring. He's likely squandered any opportunity to play again in the NFL unless a team becomes desperate.
Alex Smith: He has done much better this year, but few give him credit for that. Because of San Francisco's success, the team will probably look to bring him back with a one or two year deal. Smith would be smart to accept that offer before free agency to help solidify his standing in the future.
Others:
Vince Young, Derek Anderson, Chris Redman, Shaun Hill, Drew Stanton, Brady Quinn, David Garrard, Dennis Dixon, and Charlie Whitehurst.
Taking a quick glance on this list, there is not much to be impressed about. This would be a hell of a QB offseason if Drew Brees and Peyton Manning were available, but we know Brees won't be.
Manning is the biggest mystery, but Colts owner Jim Irsay did announce Manning would be back in Indy if he's healthy. Still, Manning is nothing more than a 3 or 4 year rental for a team that needs to win now. Could Miami make a run at Peyton? It's not a likely destination and if they did, it should not prevent them from looking for a QB in the draft.
Of the notable QBs, I think it is fair to say that Orton, Campbell, Smith, Henne, and McNabb are not upgrades over Matt Moore and don't look to be a franchise QB. On the other hand, Flynn is the source of a lot of debate. Many are very high on him, much like they were on Kevin Kolb. Before I go on, I am not saying that Flynn is a similar QB to Kolb, but they have similar hype. Flynn won't require a big trade like Kolb, but it's likely he could receive a nice deal. I don't expect the offer to be extremely high, but I think a 4-year deal worth $30 million with many incentives would be a start. I'd hope any team would try to protect themselves by having a lower signing bonus, of let's say $12 million, and have roster bonuses in years 3 and 4 of the deal. That would lessen the pain if he turns out to be a bust. Flynn is a legitimate target for many teams and I could see Miami making a move at him if they feel Robert Griffin III won't be available to them in the draft, even through a trade. The same could be said for Seattle and as the dark horse, I wouldn't be surprised if the Broncos show interest as well. Personally, I am hoping the Redskins sign Flynn which would leave the door open for Miami to draft Griffin.
As far as his physical talents go, Flynn is only average. His arm strength and mobility are average, but they are good enough to elude the rush and get the ball downfield. He was also considered an accurate passer as well. People get lost in his last game, but he has had a spotty record in relief and before you think everything has always been good, he did have a poor outing against Detroit in 2010 in which he went 15-26 for 177 yards and an INT when he replaced an injured Aaron Rodgers during the game. The bad part? Green Bay lost and only scored 3 points. I don't point that out to say Flynn will be bad, but I don't think people should be expecting a top 5 QB to be hitting free agency with Flynn. Expectations could be set unreasonably high for him in free agency. Now, for the big question. Should Miami take him? I'm fine with it, but I'd still look for a QB in the draft as well. Generally I don't like having a first round rookie as a QB, but I'd be open to making an exception for having Moore and Flynn in front of Griffin. I'd also be perfectly fine with having Tannehill as a #3 behind them. Having Flynn on board instantly would create a giant QB controversy though. His contract would say he's automatic starter, but previous performance should indicate Moore should have a shot? How would that situation be handled? Luckily, that's not my decision to make.
Ultimately, the front office can bring in Manning or Flynn. I'm fine with both. As long as they don't pass on Griffin because of them. You could think that would indicate a lack of trust in Flynn and Moore, but I don't see it that way. As the old saying goes, you hope for the best and plan for the worst. If there was ever a position to overstock with talent, QB would the best position to do it. At least until we know who the future QB of this franchise is.
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Griffin III
If the Dolphins do anything but get Griffin III, everyone and I mean everyone in the front office should be fired! There will never be another Dan Marino but this teams record of quarterbacks since Dan has been absolutely ridiculous!!!! Stop messing around and finally get a top quarterback and stop settling for mediocre. I am a fan! I am “DanPhin”!
I've been saying this for weeks now
I'm ALL- IN. Do whatever it takes to get Andrew Luck or RGIII to Miami in 2012.
Laces out!
-2008 AFC East Champions-
BRANDON MARSHALL- FUTURE MIAMI HOF WR!!!!!
Tom Brandstater- more TD's than completions. Last person to tell him that's not possible, well, nobody has seen him since.
I want RG III as well...but
It may be unreachable…or our New HC may really like Flynn….I’d be happy with either!
by MassFinFan65 on Jan 13, 2012 10:37 AM EST up reply actions
I wouldn't necessarily
I can’t blame them if Griffin is unattainable. Now if they pass over him and he’s on the board, I’ll be upset.
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This^
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by texascowpunk on Jan 13, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
if you want RG3
you’ll have to trade with the vikes, because the browns at #4 are looking at RG3
"the bengals are not a west of the 104 longitude team."
Great article Mosul, REC'd because I fully agree with everything.
I wouldn’t mind Flynn giving Moore competition but I think we should go after Griffin rather than pay $30 mil for a 7-round QB with average talent, and 3 starting games in the NFL.
People see 500 yards in an inflated game on the best offensive in sports and they get a massive man-crush. I’m not saying Flynn, can’t be great, but he’ll be equally risky and expensive and I doubt he can step into the Miami offensive and IMMEDIATELY become a playmaker. Overall, I think Moore may turn out to be better.
RGIII is a remarkable talent and to move up 4 spots to not have to worry about the QB position for the next 5 years is a no brainer in my opinion. Best scenario is like you said, Browns take Richardson, Washington trades for Flynn and Griffin falls to Miami at 8.
I'm ALL- IN. Do whatever it takes to get Andrew Luck or RGIII to Miami in 2012.
Laces out!
-2008 AFC East Champions-
BRANDON MARSHALL- FUTURE MIAMI HOF WR!!!!!
Tom Brandstater- more TD's than completions. Last person to tell him that's not possible, well, nobody has seen him since.
by BSerious72 on Jan 13, 2012 10:39 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
*cough cough*
I feel the love!
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just saying....
I see more of the Matt Cassel, Kevin Kolb vibe than the Drew Brees, Matt Schaub vibe as far as FA QB’s go.
But hey, that’s just my opinion.
I'm ALL- IN. Do whatever it takes to get Andrew Luck or RGIII to Miami in 2012.
Laces out!
-2008 AFC East Champions-
BRANDON MARSHALL- FUTURE MIAMI HOF WR!!!!!
Tom Brandstater- more TD's than completions. Last person to tell him that's not possible, well, nobody has seen him since.
I kind of feel that too.
I feel Cassel-type career is most likely with the ceiling of Schaub.
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this is a pretty good description in my book
Schaub is a good QB but you got to put an ELITE team around him if you are talking SB goals.
I'm ALL- IN. Do whatever it takes to get Andrew Luck or RGIII to Miami in 2012.
Laces out!
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Tom Brandstater- more TD's than completions. Last person to tell him that's not possible, well, nobody has seen him since.
LMAO
Great write up Finhead
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My love for THE MIAMI DOLPHINS is unconditional...period!
Win for pride, Win for us fans!
God I hope we can knock the Jets out of the playoffs, I couldn't imagine despising a team and fan base more.
Go Dolphins!
by Phinphinatic on Jan 13, 2012 10:53 AM EST up reply actions
LOL
Some people just don’t pay attention to details.
LOL
It’s no big deal. I probably look like an attention whore a lot when I do that, but it’s all in jest!
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... just a plain whore.
A woman is an occasional pleasure but a cigar is always a smoke.
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Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. -H.L. Mencken.
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Well that too!
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lol why do i ALWAYS do that
my bad haha
Well written Finhead83, very well done.
Nice job Mosul too lol
I'm ALL- IN. Do whatever it takes to get Andrew Luck or RGIII to Miami in 2012.
Laces out!
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BRANDON MARSHALL- FUTURE MIAMI HOF WR!!!!!
Tom Brandstater- more TD's than completions. Last person to tell him that's not possible, well, nobody has seen him since.
Mosul? Mosul did not write this!
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by texascowpunk on Jan 13, 2012 1:46 PM EST up reply actions
i know... my b. see apology above
i have to fly through articles bc im at work and i have done this before. my bad, it was a really good article
I'm ALL- IN. Do whatever it takes to get Andrew Luck or RGIII to Miami in 2012.
Laces out!
-2008 AFC East Champions-
BRANDON MARSHALL- FUTURE MIAMI HOF WR!!!!!
Tom Brandstater- more TD's than completions. Last person to tell him that's not possible, well, nobody has seen him since.
Ok good!
*note to self-take BSerious72 off the hit list and add Alpha back on………..
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by texascowpunk on Jan 13, 2012 8:54 PM EST up reply actions
Damn it!! I gotta start hiding again....
A woman is an occasional pleasure but a cigar is always a smoke.
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"Never miss an opportunity to make others happy, even if you have to leave them alone in order to do it."
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thinking about the future
With Barkley returning to USC next year, and Landry Jones returning (he’s not the answer for us) the QB class which was perceived to be one of the strongest has now become diluted with only 2 probably picks in the first round (Luck and Griffin).
I wouldn’t mind seeing up trading back picking up picks, securing a RT spot (highest need but hugely unpopular pick of course) and using Moore one more year so that we can package picks and move up next year to take Barkley. I feel better about Barkley than RGIII, but it might just be because Barkley is a prototypical QB compared to RGIII.
We have a young team, so we aren’t rushing the clock with a Win-Now mentality. Why not build a dynasty with the right pieces. We are moving in that direction, so why force it and risk it’s collapse?
by tightypatwhitey on Jan 13, 2012 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
FISHHEAD83...???
I lOOked at your list of QBs and matt moore is better
than anyone on that list.period.
As far as chad henne goes he should go to the NYjets and
play for tony sparano.
RG111 is nothing more than another michael vick, hes not that tall and
he runs alot, when he gets to the nfl hes got to tone down all the running
and pass the ball or hes goin to get HURT??
I agree.
I’m not big on any of the FA QBs. I never said any of them were upgrades and only Flynn has any hope to be a future franchise QB.
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Honestly RGIII doesn't run enough
He’s more of a pocket passer than Cam. He’s got mobility, but he doesn’t run that often at all.
I'm ALL- IN. Do whatever it takes to get Andrew Luck or RGIII to Miami in 2012.
Laces out!
-2008 AFC East Champions-
BRANDON MARSHALL- FUTURE MIAMI HOF WR!!!!!
Tom Brandstater- more TD's than completions. Last person to tell him that's not possible, well, nobody has seen him since.
Yeah.
QBs with mobility aren’t exactly always running QBs. Look at QBs like Steve Young and Aaron Rodgers. Griffin has run a lot with the system he’s in, but I don’t imagine him running 100+ times in the NFL.
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Hell Aaron Rodgers is a great runner. He's honestly just amazing lol.
If coverage is good, Griffin can scramble for yards…difference is instead of picking up 5-8 yards he’s capable of 15- 25.
I'm ALL- IN. Do whatever it takes to get Andrew Luck or RGIII to Miami in 2012.
Laces out!
-2008 AFC East Champions-
BRANDON MARSHALL- FUTURE MIAMI HOF WR!!!!!
Tom Brandstater- more TD's than completions. Last person to tell him that's not possible, well, nobody has seen him since.
It looks like Henne could be one of the better FA QBs out there.
I would say that Flynn (maybe) and Manning are the only clear upgrades over Moore and Henne.
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My love for THE MIAMI DOLPHINS is unconditional...period!
Win for pride, Win for us fans!
God I hope we can knock the Jets out of the playoffs, I couldn't imagine despising a team and fan base more.
Go Dolphins!
I've said it before and I'll say it again.
Only a fool would give franchise QB money to a guy with 2 career starts.
by PNSter on Jan 13, 2012 10:58 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Oh yeah?
How is that different from paying a 1st Rounder franchise QB money? They haven’t started at all.
More of Moore in 2012!
Coples for our new 4-3!
'Phins phor Liphe!
you dont give 1st rounders Franchise QB money anymore
Cam Newton’s contract is only 4yrs 22million. While Kolb got 5yrs 64 million. If we were to sign Flynn the contract would be much closer to 60mil than the 20 mil RGIII would get as the #2 pick
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Yeah, as of, what, 6 months ago?
What about for the rest of the history of the league? There used to be tons of players getting franchise money that hadn’t played a game. You have to look at Flynn like a rookie with a little bit more experience. 4 years, 28 million seems about right compared to an unknown making 22 with no NFL tape whatsoever.
More of Moore in 2012!
Coples for our new 4-3!
'Phins phor Liphe!
we arent talking about the rest of history, we're talking about right now...
i understand why you like Flynn and i like him too. He is a much safer option than RGIII (or any other rookie). However you have to consider the circumstances. He has played 2 games in one of the best offenses in the league with great talent around him and he has spent the last 4 years learning a specific system from one of the greatest QB coaching staffs in the league. I highly doubt he will be nearly as effective with a larger sample size in a different offense. There is a chance that Flynn (like Kolb) is a product of the system he played those 2 games in and will flop once he signs with another team. Not saying this is a fact, just that it is possible and not really that unlikely. Also, I refuse to look at Flynn as a rookie because he has had 4 years to hold a clipboard and learn from one of the best QBs and coaching staffs in the league. Plus, he will be 27 by the time next season starts, not too old, but certainly not a rookie. IMO RGIII has huge upside and I would be willing to take the risk on him and pay him a very reasonable 20 million.
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"Sorry if everyone thought we were going to go 82-0" - Dwyane Wade
"A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore." - Yogi Berra
You're right.
A guy with that little experience isn’t that far removed from a draft pick.
But I bet you want to pay him more than you’d give a 7th round pick, don’t ya?
Not when the 7th Round pick has actually shown he can hang in the NFL.
His floor is far lower than a rookie with zero NFL experience. If I’m going to spend 22 million on a QB that might be a straight up bust, I’d be very happy getting a qb for 28 million that has a floor of Matt Cassel and a similar ceiling to a first round rookie.
More of Moore in 2012!
Coples for our new 4-3!
'Phins phor Liphe!
if we have the chance to bring him in... AWESOME
i would still move up in the draft and take RG3 and let him learn the NFL from Manning for a year oe 2
We had [Brady] down… but we didn’t kick him. We helped him up and gave him a PowerPuff Girls band-aid for his knee. What exactly did you expect would happen when we did that?
by Jason Scott_90 on Jan 13, 2012 11:04 AM EST via Android app reply actions
Remember the Brady Quinn riot? How'd that work out?
The mighty Flynn is concievable, but I doubt a team should pay what he’ll command. Especially if that team is in the top ten of the draft. There will be in all likelyhood, three top QBs to choose in the top ten. So why would a team spend money on a refurbished model, than get themselves a new one.
But, Washington and Cleveland are in the top ten, and one of them could surely take Flynn. Which bodes well for Miami’s chances of getting that elite QB in the draft.
My new hope… Brock Osweiler in the first. =)
A woman is an occasional pleasure but a cigar is always a smoke.
- Groucho Marx
Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. -H.L. Mencken.
"Never miss an opportunity to make others happy, even if you have to leave them alone in order to do it."
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
I actually think Seattle may make a move on Flynn because of that very reason.
Unless they like Ryan Tannehill enough.
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I was watching highlights of one of Osweiler's receivers and the thing that stood out the most was how inaccurate Osweiler was
he is a huge project and I wouldnt even look his way until the 3rd round.
In Pat we Trust
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"A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore." - Yogi Berra
Yeah, he's a giant galooff...
A woman is an occasional pleasure but a cigar is always a smoke.
- Groucho Marx
Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. -H.L. Mencken.
"Never miss an opportunity to make others happy, even if you have to leave them alone in order to do it."
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
Noooooooo to Osweiler
That guy couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn
"Every island has a beach and mine there will be called Beast Beach."
Leading the drive for our new offensive coordinator: Mr. Dan Marino
I know. His eye-hand coordination is not there..
… it’s why he didn’t make it in basketball….
A woman is an occasional pleasure but a cigar is always a smoke.
- Groucho Marx
Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. -H.L. Mencken.
"Never miss an opportunity to make others happy, even if you have to leave them alone in order to do it."
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
osweiler would be a great high upside player in the 3rd
But he needs serious coaching and tutorship. I see new orleans takes him in the 3rd to develop behind a brees who is nearing the end of his prime. Osweiler learns behind brees for 3 or 4 years, then takes over.
Admiral of the RGIII "Robert Griffin"
Carolina OC Chudzinski for HC.
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by AnishB15 on Jan 13, 2012 3:14 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Agreed.
A woman is an occasional pleasure but a cigar is always a smoke.
- Groucho Marx
Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. -H.L. Mencken.
"Never miss an opportunity to make others happy, even if you have to leave them alone in order to do it."
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
Flynn and Philiban in Miami= SuCCESS
Having only 2 starts in NFL and playing amazing is a lot better than a completely untested college QB, period. Except for Luck maybe. And that’s maybe because he is rated so highly, but the NFL is not Stanford.
Here's the problem
If you just take 2 of Henne’s starts, he looks awesome too. But going back to his college starts, he wasn’t good. Flynn has looked good in two starts, but he sucked in college. There aren’t many examples of bad college QB’s suddenly being Franchise guys in the league..
He’s not the same as a highly rated 1st rounder like Griffin, and he’s certainly not better. Because when he was playing the same competition as Griffin, he was much, much worse. Don’t fall for the AJ Feeley trap of a guy looking good in a backup role for a Super Bowl contender.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Jan 14, 2012 1:24 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
RG 3 won't happen
A lot of people think that Washington will move up to draft Griffen. I disagree. In my mind, the team that has the most fire power and motivation to move up is the Browns. Coach Shumer has already talked about Griffen which tells you all you need to know about their belief in Colt Mc Coy. Plus the Browns have the 4th and 22nd picks in the draft. How many draft choices are we willing to give up when we need the following positions:
RT, TE, FS, CB, SLB, and possibly a NT or DE. I would rather draft the players we need to get better and wait until next year’s draft class. If we do not get our offensive line fixed in a year with an outstanding offensive line class, it does not matter who we have at QB. Personally, I would look hard at Campbell and Flynn.
My only hope is that Manning signs with the Redskins and Flynn signs with the Browns...
that would eliminate a lot of our competition for RGIII
In Pat we Trust
"Sorry if everyone thought we were going to go 82-0" - Dwyane Wade
"A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore." - Yogi Berra
Except for maybe the Rams....
A woman is an occasional pleasure but a cigar is always a smoke.
- Groucho Marx
Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. -H.L. Mencken.
"Never miss an opportunity to make others happy, even if you have to leave them alone in order to do it."
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
If Bradford is a reason that Fisher is considering going to The Rams,
then you can rule out St. Louis even contemplating a QB in the first.
More of Moore in 2012!
Coples for our new 4-3!
'Phins phor Liphe!
Aaaaaah, I see your madness there.
Good prognosis….
A woman is an occasional pleasure but a cigar is always a smoke.
- Groucho Marx
Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. -H.L. Mencken.
"Never miss an opportunity to make others happy, even if you have to leave them alone in order to do it."
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
Maybe it wasn't Bradford
Maybe it was Griffin sitting there for them to pick at #2.. A lot easier for them to get him than us.. Just saying that it’s a possibility
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by Little Nicky 21 on Jan 14, 2012 1:26 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
flynn or stick with moore
Ross won’t wait to develop a rookie qb with big question marks like RGIII. I think he’s a bust anyway. Fisher isn’t going to want vince young part II.
by fishfan54 on Jan 13, 2012 12:34 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Ross won’t wait to develop a rookie qb
Then what’s Ross got?
A woman is an occasional pleasure but a cigar is always a smoke.
- Groucho Marx
Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. -H.L. Mencken.
"Never miss an opportunity to make others happy, even if you have to leave them alone in order to do it."
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
Wait..
You don’t want Cam Newton? He only rewrote the rookie passing record book and proved that he’s a QB you can build your franchise around…
Yeah you’re right. We don’t want a good QB. Better to stick with the Chad Henne’s of the world because we are all giant vaginas afraid to take any risk whatsoever.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Jan 14, 2012 1:30 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Lol name one question mark about Griffin
Hahaha this is such an uneducated comment
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by Little Nicky 21 on Jan 14, 2012 1:27 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Moore competes with Henne and draft Weeden 2nd round
And I’m sticking by that til the draft!
Great plan
… Holy crap
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by Little Nicky 21 on Jan 14, 2012 1:31 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
We lost Fisher...
we need to do whatever it takes to get the second spot or get bradford or manning.
here are my predictions
Peyton goes to SF, who also resigns alex smith to backup manning.
Brees stays.
Henne goes to the jests, where he beats out snatchez for the starting spot.
Orton goes to baltimore to backup flacco. Campbell will challange gabbert in Jax.
Flynn is signed by the redskins, who need to win now and have everything except a good qb.
Colts take luck, we trade up for RGIII and seahawks take Tannehill. Weeden goes to the browns, with foles going to dallas. Cousins goes to chicago, brock osweiler goes to new orleans and K. Moore goes to the eagles. Case keenum goes to the bills.
Admiral of the RGIII "Robert Griffin"
Carolina OC Chudzinski for HC.
Grand Cardinal of the first holy church of brandstater
by AnishB15 on Jan 13, 2012 3:11 PM EST via mobile reply actions
we'll see how close you are in 4 months!
i’ll be happy with it!
I'm ALL- IN. Do whatever it takes to get Andrew Luck or RGIII to Miami in 2012.
Laces out!
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Tom Brandstater- more TD's than completions. Last person to tell him that's not possible, well, nobody has seen him since.
any other feedback on this
Are all of them possible, anything blatantly not going to happen?
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by AnishB15 on Jan 13, 2012 4:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Manning
We need to do what ever it takes to get manning then in later round draft Moore. Give Manning what ever he wants but state he has to prep Moore.
if we take a developmental qb in the late rounds
I would prefer case keenum out of houston. He set the record for the highest passing yards ever in college this past season. He is a much better passer than moore and is better at getting rid of the ball in time. He also has a much better release compared to moores. Moore throws like tebow used to. Keenum is also tall enough to at least see over the offensive lineman.
Admiral of the RGIII "Robert Griffin"
Carolina OC Chudzinski for HC.
Grand Cardinal of the first holy church of brandstater
by AnishB15 on Jan 13, 2012 3:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
How can you argue with College football most win QB....
Plus experts states he is more of a Brees QB. With out the Brees’ arm strength. We lost out on Brees why not go for Moore if we had Manning there to help coachhim up to be the future.
One word
No.
I'm ALL- IN. Do whatever it takes to get Andrew Luck or RGIII to Miami in 2012.
Laces out!
-2008 AFC East Champions-
BRANDON MARSHALL- FUTURE MIAMI HOF WR!!!!!
Tom Brandstater- more TD's than completions. Last person to tell him that's not possible, well, nobody has seen him since.
How about Donna Dixon circa 1984 or so?
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by texascowpunk on Jan 13, 2012 8:55 PM EST up reply actions
Donna Summer?
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i think im going to barf
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Carolina OC Chudzinski for HC.
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by AnishB15 on Jan 13, 2012 4:22 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
But do it on TCP's shoes....
A woman is an occasional pleasure but a cigar is always a smoke.
- Groucho Marx
Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. -H.L. Mencken.
"Never miss an opportunity to make others happy, even if you have to leave them alone in order to do it."
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
Except for Brees and Manning...
Matt Moore is better than all of those dudes. Nothing to be had from FA this year. Gotta trade up in the Draft or stick with Matt Moore and wait for next year’s class… because we aren’t getting Andrew Luck or RG3.
“His chance of returning has been squandered by the emergence of Matt Moore.”
Right. The same Matt Moore that was riding the bench before Henne was injured?
Politics? Money?
A woman is an occasional pleasure but a cigar is always a smoke.
- Groucho Marx
Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. -H.L. Mencken.
"Never miss an opportunity to make others happy, even if you have to leave them alone in order to do it."
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
Yep
Thats the guy. The one who played better than Henne ever has…
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by Little Nicky 21 on Jan 14, 2012 1:33 PM EST via Android app up reply actions

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