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Miami Dolphins Head Coach Tony Sparano Discusses Roster Moves

Yesterday, Miami Dolphins Head Coach Tony Sparano spoke to the media about the Dolphins recent roster moves.  He hit on many topics during the press availability, including why the team kept Marlon Moore (the team had worked too hard to get the speed Moore, rookie Clyde Gates, and Brian Hartline bring to the team to let Moore go), Daniel Thomas' talent level (a young version of Larry Johnson), and what kind of training camp quarterback Chad Henne had (a really good training cam and expectations of a really good season).

Sparano was asked about the process of deciding the 53-man roster.  He replied:

"Well, it was hard.  I mean, it was a good problem because we had hard decisions to make.  But it was hard.  I think there was a point in there where you're in an around 45 [players] and you're kind of grinding on the last eight or nine guys, and who fits where and why, and all that good stuff.  I mean, I think that the last ball game helped us a little bit, you know, to identify some of that stuff.  It was really a total body of work here in training camp, and you can't excuse what went on for three, four weeks."

Sparano then continued, explaining that the release of veteran cornerback WIll Allen was based on the "total body of work" concept:

"I mean, I really, really like Will Allen, and I really had a hard time with making that decision at the end of this thing.  We're deep back there right now with guys.  I felt like Nolan Carroll had a tremendous training camp.  I really though Benny [Sapp] did good things, you know, and that group of guys.  And Jimmy [Wilson].  And, I had the least amount of work on Will right now.  That's where I was, and that's what really came into play.  Just a total body of work, with a lot of training camp and a total evaluation at the end."

Star-divide

The topic also turned to the release of fullback Lousaka Polite, who just a week ago, Sparano defended and stated was a big part of the team's plans.  Sparano said:

"That was really difficult.  That was a really difficult decision, and conversation to have.  You know, both those guys, Lou and Will Allen, just tremendous pros.  Really good pros and good people.  Guys that have all the things that you really want to have on your team.  It's just you have to make decisions that are hard decisions and these were hard decisions.  We kind of went in a little different direction, so there's a little more flexibility right now with where we are, than maybe where were were.  All that being said, those guys have done an awful lot for us and I appreciate that."

Continuing his focus on the running back position, Sparano added:

"My thoughts are, I think that we've helped ourselves a bunch here with Reggie [Bush]. I'm looking forward to getting Reggie out there, and getting him the football.  Reggie is the starting running back.  Daniel Thomas will be the next guy, pretty simple process.  So, I only have three of them, and they're on the roster now."

Turning to Larry Johnson, who the team released, Sparano said:

"I thought Larry did a really good job.  I think it just came down to numbers and comfort.  You know, right now, I kid of felt like, at this particular time, I have something similar [Daniel Thomas] that's younger, and a little faster, and all those good things.  But, I mean, I thought Larry did a really good job for us and it really came down to numbers at the position."

Speaking of numbers, Sparano worked his way to the new quarterback rule, removing the "emergency" quarterback, and activating an additional member of the roster for each week's game.  The Dolphins, rather than keeping a third quarterback on the 53-man roster, waived rookie Pat Devlin, placing him on the practice squad, and keeping starter Chad Henne and backup Matt Moore.

"Well, I think the rules has something to do with it, and I think also the rule gives you flexibility at the game, you know, for a little different body, and I think it gives you the ability to bring in, maybe somebody else that can contribute 25, 30 plays at the game, some place.  So, I mean, that helps us a little bit that way.  To be honest with you, I felt best with two quarterbacks right now.  And, there's a lot of teams that don't do it, but there's a lot of teams that dot it.  Right now, we are one of the teams that are going to play with two quarterbacks."

Sparano also spoke about the wide receivers.  The Dolphins kept six wide receivers on the 53-man roster this year

"I have six and I have six pretty good ones.  So it's a deep position, and I don't want to give up speed.  I worked too hard to get it on this roster to give it up."  He continued, "I mean, as of the last couple of weeks it really wasn't that tough a decision [to keep Marlon Moore on the roster]."

Continuing on his thought about the team's speed;

"I think we are playing faster.  I think the tempo of things has changed tremendously in our approach on both sides of the ball.  I think we've always played fast on the defense, but I think offensively we've been able to play fast, and that's kind of made our defense play a little faster, if you will.  That being said, and there's no substitute for having speed, I think we've created some speed on this team at a bunch of positions.  The linebacker position runs better right, the line runs better, so we have different speed right now, I think, all around."

Finally, Sparano was also asked about keeping five of the six draft picks from the 2011 draft class:

"I've said all along, I thought this was a really good rookie class.  That being said, they've had limited time out here to get themselves ready to go, here, and still not there yet.  But, I do think that each one of these kids has shown tremendous upside, and can help this football team in a lot of ways.  I see a lot of play eaters in this group, guys that will play a lot of plays one way or the other.  Whether it's Jimmy Wilson on special teams, [Clyde] Gates and his contributions, or any of those guys. So, I'm just happy that our guys did a super job in the draft, and I think it showed in training camp here and when the roster shaped up."

So, what do you think about Coach Sparano's decision making process in picking the 53-man roster?

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by biggaandbadda on Sep 5, 2011 5:26 PM EDT reply actions  

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by Alpha6 on Sep 5, 2011 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

How can you be so insensitive!

I am not mr. PC, but you f-ing crossed the line on that one buddy!

"The first thing I do when I get out of bed and feel the jolt in my knees is think of Roy Winston. On the second step, my calcified Adam's apple starts bobbing, and I think of Carl Eller. A few more steps in the dark and it's Willie Lanier. By the time I get to the bathroom, I'm flashing back to Dick Butkus and Ray Nitschke. And when the light finally comes on, I just hope that somewhere in the darkness they're thinking of me, too" - Larry Csonka.
He played before my time but one of the toughest SOBs to ever play!

by Strange on Sep 5, 2011 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL Wait wut?

"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"

by Alpha6 on Sep 5, 2011 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

IDK

Mercenaries never die. They just go to hell to regroup. - Unknown. I dont always make paradoxes, but when i do, i don't.- Brock Obama. Leading the fighter escort of SU-47s for the Lindley Bandwagon "pm striker king"- WZB.
Good, cheap FA upgrades out there: Gurode, E. Royster, L. Sheppard, J. KirkPatrick, K. O'Dowd, D. Thomas, D. Avery. Dolphins not pulling their weight: B. Sapp, J. Berger, J. Jerry, I. Alama-Francis, M. Columbo.

by PotM on Sep 5, 2011 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really how Obtuse!

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by wild zion beaver on Sep 5, 2011 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Some people are just lacking in education and social graces

"The first thing I do when I get out of bed and feel the jolt in my knees is think of Roy Winston. On the second step, my calcified Adam's apple starts bobbing, and I think of Carl Eller. A few more steps in the dark and it's Willie Lanier. By the time I get to the bathroom, I'm flashing back to Dick Butkus and Ray Nitschke. And when the light finally comes on, I just hope that somewhere in the darkness they're thinking of me, too" - Larry Csonka.
He played before my time but one of the toughest SOBs to ever play!

by Strange on Sep 6, 2011 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

What did I say?

kjhf [iopu to you too….

LOL

"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"

by Alpha6 on Sep 5, 2011 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damn thats hiddious!

wopper "the king" computer
We often look rite past the positive's cuz the negative's-r-so hard they dominate! Have you touched & preened your beaver-pelt today? There one thing that needs to be said (Miami Dolphin) i exspect you'll win!

by wild zion beaver on Sep 5, 2011 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

it woodn't be so bad, but its disrespectful also!

wopper "the king" computer
We often look rite past the positive's cuz the negative's-r-so hard they dominate! Have you touched & preened your beaver-pelt today? There one thing that needs to be said (Miami Dolphin) i exspect you'll win!

by wild zion beaver on Sep 5, 2011 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah!

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by texascowpunk on Sep 5, 2011 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

lmfao!

Excellently played….

"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"

by Alpha6 on Sep 6, 2011 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for getting it :)

"The first thing I do when I get out of bed and feel the jolt in my knees is think of Roy Winston. On the second step, my calcified Adam's apple starts bobbing, and I think of Carl Eller. A few more steps in the dark and it's Willie Lanier. By the time I get to the bathroom, I'm flashing back to Dick Butkus and Ray Nitschke. And when the light finally comes on, I just hope that somewhere in the darkness they're thinking of me, too" - Larry Csonka.
He played before my time but one of the toughest SOBs to ever play!

by Strange on Sep 6, 2011 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wish he would have addressed the

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by daytonadolfan on Sep 5, 2011 5:41 PM EDT reply actions  

"O" line

damn can’t type lol

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by daytonadolfan on Sep 5, 2011 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

didn't we pick up a guy that can play C, G or T?

Lets give the O-line guru a chance here… He is still working…

Prove everyone that said you weren't a franchise QB wrong, Henne. "WE WANT HENNE!!" GO PHINS!! What can I say I am a homer, I have come to terms with that and accepted it. I predict 10-6 and a wildcard berth. Jets got worse this year when they lost Ellis to the Patriots. The Patriots are going to be more solid on defense this year than they have in the past.

by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 5, 2011 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

They really just need 8-10 games out there working togeather, to figure each other ins & outs!

wopper "the king" computer
We often look rite past the positive's cuz the negative's-r-so hard they dominate! Have you touched & preened your beaver-pelt today? There one thing that needs to be said (Miami Dolphin) i exspect you'll win!

by wild zion beaver on Sep 5, 2011 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also ...I am thinking that Jerry will surprise us as he learns the RT position...

I think between the new guy and Jerry we will solve our RT problem.

Prove everyone that said you weren't a franchise QB wrong, Henne. "WE WANT HENNE!!" GO PHINS!! What can I say I am a homer, I have come to terms with that and accepted it. I predict 10-6 and a wildcard berth. Jets got worse this year when they lost Ellis to the Patriots. The Patriots are going to be more solid on defense this year than they have in the past.

by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 5, 2011 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Jerry learns any position at this point, that would be a delightful surprise.

In fact, if he managed to nail down the waterboy slot, that would represent gratifying progress!

Chad Henne is clearly the answer. But what exactly is the question?

by nickzi on Sep 5, 2011 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

He might just be in a slump. Smith had one too.

Mercenaries never die. They just go to hell to regroup. - Unknown. I dont always make paradoxes, but when i do, i don't.- Brock Obama. Leading the fighter escort of SU-47s for the Lindley Bandwagon "pm striker king"- WZB.
Good, cheap FA upgrades out there: Gurode, E. Royster, L. Sheppard, J. KirkPatrick, K. O'Dowd, D. Thomas, D. Avery. Dolphins not pulling their weight: B. Sapp, J. Berger, J. Jerry, I. Alama-Francis, M. Columbo.

by PotM on Sep 5, 2011 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Slump as opposed to what?

I don’t recall the Good Period in the life of the artist named John Jerry.

Chad Henne is clearly the answer. But what exactly is the question?

by nickzi on Sep 5, 2011 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was at least average last season. He didn't start all of the gamkes last year due to illness and the recovery from

that illness.

Mercenaries never die. They just go to hell to regroup. - Unknown. I dont always make paradoxes, but when i do, i don't.- Brock Obama. Leading the fighter escort of SU-47s for the Lindley Bandwagon "pm striker king"- WZB.
Good, cheap FA upgrades out there: Gurode, E. Royster, L. Sheppard, J. KirkPatrick, K. O'Dowd, D. Thomas, D. Avery. Dolphins not pulling their weight: B. Sapp, J. Berger, J. Jerry, I. Alama-Francis, M. Columbo.

by PotM on Sep 5, 2011 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just because a guy can't play inside doesn't mean that he can't be a Pro Bowler outside...

I thought that was the plan for him anyway. The guy was a T in college and we moved him inside. He stepped on Henne’s foot 2 times in one game, and you could tell he was having a hard time playing in that tight space. We drafted a TACKLE and he proved that he doesn’t do too well at GUARD… .SURPRISE!!!

Prove everyone that said you weren't a franchise QB wrong, Henne. "WE WANT HENNE!!" GO PHINS!! What can I say I am a homer, I have come to terms with that and accepted it. I predict 10-6 and a wildcard berth. Jets got worse this year when they lost Ellis to the Patriots. The Patriots are going to be more solid on defense this year than they have in the past.

by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 5, 2011 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

stop drinking

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Don't change your mind.
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by Patssuck456 on Sep 5, 2011 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

All reasonable

The decisions Coach Sparano made all seem reasonable and justified. Obviously he was seeing more in Thomas than I have seen from watching him in the games. I agree with keeping Moore – he will be a Dolphin long term – and with experience should be pressing Hartline as should Gates.

At this point my main worries are the pass protection from Columbo and Carey on the right (will Henne be standing up long enough to find a receiver and throw the ball) and the fact that even if the OL is fixed the loss of Ricky and Ronnie is NOT replaced by the addition of Thomas (so far) with the result that I expect we have lost our earlier ability to control the clock.

I hope through trade or great luck on roster releases that we manage to come up with an improved Right Tackle and Tight End to enable our running game. It may be possible that Clay can be transformative in this. You did not see him much during the preseason. I interpreted this as indicating that he is not ready for prime time. But reports from practice sounded decent. So there is an outside possibility that he actually will be a real impact player but they are hiding him til the season (fingers crossed).

by student1776 on Sep 5, 2011 5:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Agree

I see a more Air than Ground game this Year…
Clay give a blocker and extra target in Pass game… keep 6 WR… this team in name say ground, but in practice say Air…
If I remember good (need to se box scores) in the preseason dont run more than 25 times peer game… and have 35+ pass plays, I see lot formations with Marshall, Hertline and Bess… and dont be uncommon marchall, Hartline, Bess and Gates (him in a dual role of second slot/deep reciver)

by David Leal on Sep 5, 2011 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Didn't we pick up 2 more TEs the past few days...

and a guy that can play C, G, and T?

Prove everyone that said you weren't a franchise QB wrong, Henne. "WE WANT HENNE!!" GO PHINS!! What can I say I am a homer, I have come to terms with that and accepted it. I predict 10-6 and a wildcard berth. Jets got worse this year when they lost Ellis to the Patriots. The Patriots are going to be more solid on defense this year than they have in the past.

by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 5, 2011 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

They cut Lousaka Polite to keep him...

I am thinking we are going to unleash this guy against the Pats….

Prove everyone that said you weren't a franchise QB wrong, Henne. "WE WANT HENNE!!" GO PHINS!! What can I say I am a homer, I have come to terms with that and accepted it. I predict 10-6 and a wildcard berth. Jets got worse this year when they lost Ellis to the Patriots. The Patriots are going to be more solid on defense this year than they have in the past.

by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 5, 2011 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Some good talent released...LJ, Will, Edds

…which is why I’m convinced Columbo has pictures of Tony and/or Ireland.

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are capable of living normal lives in a productive society.
The other 77% are Jets fans.

NY Jets fan base: Bringing insanity and inbreeding to your community since 1960.

Back on the Hennewagon. Chuggin' along with no spare...

by CanT0o on Sep 5, 2011 6:15 PM EDT reply actions  

None of those guys is even a halfway decent RT....lol

Prove everyone that said you weren't a franchise QB wrong, Henne. "WE WANT HENNE!!" GO PHINS!! What can I say I am a homer, I have come to terms with that and accepted it. I predict 10-6 and a wildcard berth. Jets got worse this year when they lost Ellis to the Patriots. The Patriots are going to be more solid on defense this year than they have in the past.

by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 5, 2011 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

And Col-frickin'-lumber is?

Chad Henne is clearly the answer. But what exactly is the question?

by nickzi on Sep 5, 2011 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

halfway decent... yes... he could dominate on the college level I bet...

Prove everyone that said you weren't a franchise QB wrong, Henne. "WE WANT HENNE!!" GO PHINS!! What can I say I am a homer, I have come to terms with that and accepted it. I predict 10-6 and a wildcard berth. Jets got worse this year when they lost Ellis to the Patriots. The Patriots are going to be more solid on defense this year than they have in the past.

by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 5, 2011 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

In the Lingerie League, possibly

Chad Henne is clearly the answer. But what exactly is the question?

by nickzi on Sep 5, 2011 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh... and here are my thoughts on that ...

As bad as Columbo is at RT… he is a good matchup against our first opponent. Where is NE’s speedy OLB? Who is their “athletic” D-lineman? I feel pretty good with guy like Columbo matching up against Wilfork or Haynesworth. I mean, there are not a lot of guys that will be able to single them, but you gotta think that he is going to be usefull when you double those guys.

Prove everyone that said you weren't a franchise QB wrong, Henne. "WE WANT HENNE!!" GO PHINS!! What can I say I am a homer, I have come to terms with that and accepted it. I predict 10-6 and a wildcard berth. Jets got worse this year when they lost Ellis to the Patriots. The Patriots are going to be more solid on defense this year than they have in the past.

by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 5, 2011 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

But then again ... he might be able to single those guys...

His strength seems to be mauling … Those guys are not going to be as athletic as the Bucs D-line is… we’ll see …

Prove everyone that said you weren't a franchise QB wrong, Henne. "WE WANT HENNE!!" GO PHINS!! What can I say I am a homer, I have come to terms with that and accepted it. I predict 10-6 and a wildcard berth. Jets got worse this year when they lost Ellis to the Patriots. The Patriots are going to be more solid on defense this year than they have in the past.

by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 5, 2011 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Never thought I'd see the day

When the Bucs had any advantage over the Patsies.

Chad Henne is clearly the answer. But what exactly is the question?

by nickzi on Sep 5, 2011 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

They used their 1ST and 2ND round picks on D-lineman...

Last year and this year….
Gerald McCoy (3rd overall pick, 2010)
Brian Price(35th overall pick, 2010)
Adrian Clayborn(20th overall pick, 2011)
Da’Quan Bowers(51st overall pick, 2011)

I would call every single one of those guys more athletic than Wilfork or Haynesworth. I would take any of Tampa Bay’s D-lineman in a foot race over Wilfork and Haynesworth.

Prove everyone that said you weren't a franchise QB wrong, Henne. "WE WANT HENNE!!" GO PHINS!! What can I say I am a homer, I have come to terms with that and accepted it. I predict 10-6 and a wildcard berth. Jets got worse this year when they lost Ellis to the Patriots. The Patriots are going to be more solid on defense this year than they have in the past.

by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 5, 2011 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

You must admit though

That the concept of the Bucs having ANY advantage over the Patsies is a little.. unusual.

Chad Henne is clearly the answer. But what exactly is the question?

by nickzi on Sep 5, 2011 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am not saying they have an advantage...

I am just saying that Columbo matches up better against Wilfork and Haynesworth than he does against a guy like Gerald McCoy or any of the Bucs D-line… they philosophy is different… Haynesworth and Wilfork are big fat slow guys that are beasts. McCoy and the rest of the Bucs line are athletic big guys. Are you surprised that we build an O-line that matches up better against our 2 biggest rivals in the AFC instead of a team that we play once in the preseason and the next time we could possibly face them would be the Super Bowl? In college you game plan against schemes. In the NFL you game plan against players. We match up well against both the Jets and the Pats on the O-line and we face them both 2 times.

Prove everyone that said you weren't a franchise QB wrong, Henne. "WE WANT HENNE!!" GO PHINS!! What can I say I am a homer, I have come to terms with that and accepted it. I predict 10-6 and a wildcard berth. Jets got worse this year when they lost Ellis to the Patriots. The Patriots are going to be more solid on defense this year than they have in the past.

by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 5, 2011 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

*THEIR* philosphy is different

Prove everyone that said you weren't a franchise QB wrong, Henne. "WE WANT HENNE!!" GO PHINS!! What can I say I am a homer, I have come to terms with that and accepted it. I predict 10-6 and a wildcard berth. Jets got worse this year when they lost Ellis to the Patriots. The Patriots are going to be more solid on defense this year than they have in the past.

by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 5, 2011 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

The problem there is that Colombo isn't facing Haynesworth or Wilfork

Those guys are interior D-linemen. They will be facing Incognito, Pouncey, and Carey. Belichick is going to run 4-3 at us all night and place Carter at the LE spot. He is going to force our interior linemen and RT to beat them consistently at the point of attack. I’m not sure we can.

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by The Earl on Sep 5, 2011 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not worried about Carey or Incognito against those guys...

Incognito might not be able to pull as a G, but he can hold his own against most people in the league. Carey can probably handle one of them on his own, and you bring Pouncey over to help with one or the other of those guys. Aside from those 2 guys … who are you afraid of on that defense? We have 5-7 guys to block those 2 guys… I think we can probably put something together to stop those 2. Put them in the middle, and we are giving the ball to Reggie on an off tackle play all night long. All we have to do is get a little bit of pass blocking and we will have WRs, TEs and FB/TEs running open all over the field.

Prove everyone that said you weren't a franchise QB wrong, Henne. "WE WANT HENNE!!" GO PHINS!! What can I say I am a homer, I have come to terms with that and accepted it. I predict 10-6 and a wildcard berth. Jets got worse this year when they lost Ellis to the Patriots. The Patriots are going to be more solid on defense this year than they have in the past.

by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 5, 2011 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am worried...

Wilfork and Haynesworth are two of the most disruptive D-linemen in the NFL. It’s going to be a long night for our 3 interior O-linemen. And if Long or Colombo have to help out, then that just means their edge rushers will get a free lane to the QB.

And it’s not about who scares me off that defense. Look at what an unproven TB line did to us. Clayborn is a rookie. Bennett has 2 career sacks in 3 seasons. Those guys were in the backfield routinely. And that was with 2 unproven second year DTs. Imagine what a Belichick coached defense with 2 of the best DTs in the game can do and an actual proven DE (Carter).

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by The Earl on Sep 5, 2011 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

see below...

I feel like we keep having the same conversation…lol

Prove everyone that said you weren't a franchise QB wrong, Henne. "WE WANT HENNE!!" GO PHINS!! What can I say I am a homer, I have come to terms with that and accepted it. I predict 10-6 and a wildcard berth. Jets got worse this year when they lost Ellis to the Patriots. The Patriots are going to be more solid on defense this year than they have in the past.

by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 5, 2011 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here's the problem with our RT position in general...

Because Jake Long is so good, we are going to have to find an equally good RT. The reason is that teams are just going to move the best pass rusher to the opposite side. When we play Dallas, do you think Ryan is just going to have Ware get stonewalled by Long all game long? No. He’s going to move him to face Colombo. Yeah, that’s not Henne’s blind side, but it won’t matter since Ware will be getting to the QB in approximately 1.3 seconds anyway. Every team we play is going to put their best pass rusher on the left side all game long to neutralize Long.

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by The Earl on Sep 5, 2011 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

That isn't really a bad thing ...

If I were the QB and you asked me if I would rather have my back to the other team’s best pass rusher, or see him the whole time … I would choose seeing him…. Henne can at the very least learn to protect himself a bit there… He might draw a 15 yd penalty if they get too aggressive…

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by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 5, 2011 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

The problem is Colombo is so bad, that it doesn't matter if Henne ses him or not

He will have no time to throw. Look at the TB game. He was constantly under pressure and aside from two big Marshall plays, our offense was stagnant. We are going to be limited in our pass protection until we get a very good RT. If we don’t have other, more pressing needs in the draft next year, we need to draft an OT early.

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by The Earl on Sep 5, 2011 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

News Flash... those Bucs D-lineman... they are pretty athletic...

I think that Columbo will probably be able to do a little more to slow up Haynesworth and Wilfork than put a hand on them as they go by. I am not really worried about him being able to pass block for this first game at least.

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by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 5, 2011 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

First of all, Haynesworth and Wilfork are interior linemen

That’s a completely different issue. Whoever NE’s best pass rusher is will be attacking our right side MOST of the night.

And back to that TB game, the only reason Clayborn wasn’t attacking Colombo’s side was because Murtha was playing LT. Colombo was beaten repeatedly by a guy you couldn’t name without having to look it up and who will likely finish the season with less than 6 sacks. You can bet that teams will be scouting Colombo and will be putting whoever they can to abuse him all game long. Which means well have to chip with a back or TE all game long (we had to against TB).

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by The Earl on Sep 5, 2011 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

who is that OLB?

I heard they were running a hybrid 4-3/3-4. I expect to see one of them playing DE when they switch to 3-4. I don’t know who the elite speed rusher is on the Pats … or the Jets for that matter … so you will have to excuse me. I have to think at the most we throw a TE or FB at the guy and we will be ok for most of the night.

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by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 5, 2011 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Pats will run 4-3 all night against us...

You have 2 interior D-linemen who are extremely disruptive against a team with a shake interior line. They have a decent 4-3 edge rusher in Andre Carter that I expect to see at the LE spot a majority of the time against a struggling RT. IMO, it would be foolish for them to run a 3-4 against us. The strength of their defense in on the line.

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by The Earl on Sep 5, 2011 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Carter is listed as RDE ... but he is one year younger than Columbo...

I don’t see him as a real speed rushing threat. Shaun Ellis is the LDE and again… not worried about Columbo facing him … he is not a speed rusher. This guy is not a total bum. He just has problems with speedier more athletic D-lineman and OLBs. I still haven’t seen the guy on the Pats defense that can be that guy. I am sorry.

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by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 5, 2011 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Of course he's listed at RDE...

but do you think BB is dumb enough to let Carter get blanked by Long all night long? He’s going to put Carter at LDE and let him face Colombo. He’s going to send some of the younger, faster pass rushers at him. He’s going to let Haynesworth and Wilfork disrupt from the interior. But that’s not even the main point. The main point is that Colombo is a HUGE liability in pass protection and teams are going to exploit that all season long.

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by The Earl on Sep 5, 2011 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I still don't see him as a speed threat there...

Carter is one year younger than Columbo… I wouldn’t call him young. I just don’t think they have the personel to exploit Columbo. I think we match up well there. If anything we put Fasano on that side and let him chip the LDE. I don’t see a problem here.

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by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 5, 2011 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Except that our interior line has a rookie and a converted tackle

facing two of the best D-linemen in the league. I am not seeing our O-line dominate the pats D-line at all. Hopefully we can spread them out and use a short, quick passing attack to minimize Henne’s in the pocket. If they were abused by a questionable Tampa line, they will struggle against a very good NE line.

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by The Earl on Sep 5, 2011 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

McCoy is questionable??

I seem to recall he was the 3rd overall pick in the draft. Carey had some trouble with him for sure… but the guy has been everything he was advertised to be so far(2nd best player in that draft).

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by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 5, 2011 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was the 3rd overall pick...

which means nothing. He hasn’t proven anything at the pro level yet. The DT that was giving us the most trouble in that game was Frank Okam. He’s like 370 and was completely clogging the running lanes, which is why I’m worried about the Pats line.

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by The Earl on Sep 7, 2011 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

We need to be able to run right then.

Dictate what the D does, not have the D dictate what we do.

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by PotM on Sep 5, 2011 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Doesn't matter...

Every defense is going to keep their best pass rusher on the left side all game long, regardless of whether we run or pass. They are going to neutralize Long as much as possible. Any time we get into a passing situation, the best pass rusher is going to face our RT instead of Long. Our lack of talent at the RT position has already limited some of what we can do.

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by The Earl on Sep 5, 2011 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree about RT talent, but in normal situations; we can

dictate that the other team will want to put the pass rusher ahead of Long. Typically Edge rushers leave the off tackle run un-defended and if we have a big RT (i hoped we would get Carimi). If the RT can run block them, we can have a situation similar to the 09 Indy game where our OTs abuse their outside guys and we will be able to gouge them with the run. If the DC lets this happen, I say fine, 6.0 YPC is great production. Also, the RT should be able to win most of the battles, unless it is C. Matthews.

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by PotM on Sep 5, 2011 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I understand what you're saying...

but their is just one problem:

Also, the RT should be able to win most of the battles, unless it is C. Matthews.

Not with Colombo. He isn’t going to win most battles, at least not from what I’ve seen. He was abused by Tampa’s LE repeatedly. The guy has 2 career sacks in 3 seasons. The difference in 2009 was that we had a very good RT to complement Long. Now we don’t. Teams will exploit our right side in any way possible. Your idea of running the ball is good, except we don’t know if those guys can run block well enough. What we are going to have to do, is draft a LT prospect (like Carimi) and put him on the right side.

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by The Earl on Sep 5, 2011 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was debating theory, not our situation.

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by PotM on Sep 5, 2011 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I still think Jerry is the long term answer there... I know not many will believe me ...

He is a RT that we made play RG. Surprise he is not a RG, but it doesn’t mean that he does not have the feet to be an exceptional RT.

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by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 5, 2011 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can see him making that move...

He just needs to improve his run blocking.

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by The Earl on Sep 5, 2011 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he will run block better as a RT...

You gotta think about how hard it must have been for a RT to try to play RG last year. If you have to think about not stepping on the QBs foot, etc, it makes you hesitate just enough to get someone on top of you. Once they get into you, you are done for. I can remember at 170 lbs as a high school senior getting the first step on a 360 lb RT, and bullrushing him back into the QB. The key there was getting into him and turning his shoulders. Once you do that it is like the guy is on skates. If that guy had been able to get on me though… he would have killed me.

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by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 5, 2011 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's why the running game is so important.

Just attack the left side and pass through play action.

by DolfanVince86 on Sep 5, 2011 11:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

What all this means to me....

THere are words, and there are actions. Last year at this time, I remember hearing things about getting aggressive on offense, and opening things up. Forgive my french, but that all turned out to be bullshit. This year, we are actually seeing steps being taken towards offensive aggression. This year, they went out of their way to get, and keep, speed. They went out and got an OC that was born after WWII and has an actual intention of a wide open game plan. ALthough cynical by nature, I am starting to see concrete evidence that this regime has finally decided to start running a 21st century offense. I hope Sporano has the guts to stick to it….

The only reason I watch Jets games is to see if TODAY is the day Rex Ryan's fat heart gives out on him...

by Brantner78 on Sep 5, 2011 6:40 PM EDT reply actions  

if he likes his job he will

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by daytonadolfan on Sep 5, 2011 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

With the talent we haqve, it’ll be the coaching that makes or breaks.

I will agree to disagree with you - as long as you understand that I'm right.

by Tunaflipper on Sep 5, 2011 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

tons of diferent pass formations

REgular: Marshall, Hertline, Bess
Speed: Marshall, Bess, Gates
4 WR: MArshall, Hartline, Bess, Gates
4WR speed: MArshall, Moore, Bess, Gates

I hope to see this formations and more with the WR’s

by David Leal on Sep 5, 2011 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would love to see the first play against Pats on MNF to be 6 wide!

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by PhinsTifosi on Sep 5, 2011 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

impossible

I got S + What a Dog's Tail Does.
Bring back Pat White. He is the chosen one.

by Va FinFan on Sep 5, 2011 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

lmao

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by PotM on Sep 5, 2011 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

We're still talking receivers, right?

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by Alpha6 on Sep 5, 2011 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

LMAO

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by ROZAY on Sep 6, 2011 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why would Bess still be on the field when we look for speed?

He has none and doesn’t have the knack for making the big play. Hartline has adequate speed and has a knack for making the big play.

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by PotM on Sep 5, 2011 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

gotta have someone underneath its not a hail mary

also you really underestimate bess’ speed his time at his pro day or the combine or whatever it was, was apparently a very low time for him and he usually ran faster

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by NJAlexH on Sep 5, 2011 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

So, Marshall is no good then?

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by PotM on Sep 5, 2011 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought the same thing

Where he has speed I’d replace Bess with Hartline.

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by NawlinsPhinFan on Sep 5, 2011 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

last year's preseason compared to this year's preseason is a complete 180...lets not try and same that this is the same team

this will be a passing team and every offseason move we have done with the exception of the guard and tackle position represent that

by tonyy on Sep 5, 2011 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Couldn't this also be Hilliard?
“I thought Larry did a really good job. I think it just came down to numbers and comfort. You know, right now, I kid of felt like, at this particular time, I have something similar [Daniel Thomas] that’s younger, and a little faster, and all those good things. But, I mean, I thought Larry did a really good job for us and it really came down to numbers at the position.”

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by PotM on Sep 5, 2011 6:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Hilliard plays FB pretty well

thats why he was basically guaranteed a spot

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by Davone_Is_BessT on Sep 5, 2011 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

and STs

I got S + What a Dog's Tail Does.
Bring back Pat White. He is the chosen one.

by Va FinFan on Sep 5, 2011 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

and blitz pick up and back up HB and etc.

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by PotM on Sep 5, 2011 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah...I wouldn't say that Thomas runs like Larry Johnson at all at this point...

Maybe they brought in LJ to teach Thomas how to run …but then realized that Hilliard could do the same thing….

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by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 5, 2011 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

i was thinking the same thing.....

he was prabably talking about hilliard. Larry wasnt meant to be the number 2 back, he was meant to be the number 3 back. which is what Lex is right now. i think it was either cut lex or LJ and they took the younger guy.

by crf163 on Sep 5, 2011 7:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Keep John Jerry, Marc Colombo, Ike Alama-Francis, Marvin Mitchell, Jeron Mastrud, Ryan Baker...

cut Will Allen and AJ Edds.
I think Sparano is going to get himself fired.

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_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ RB _ _QB (Henne) . . . . . . . . . . \_ SC = Bush/Moore/Gates

by DolphDallas on Sep 5, 2011 8:10 PM EDT reply actions  

really?

I am guessing you have been to every single practice(including the ones closed to the public) and taped the practices … watched the practice film… etc..

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by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 5, 2011 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

nope

but that doesn’t mean I can’t sit back and think…whoa…that’s a questionable move…
his rationale for choosing Spitler over Edds…and carrying 5 TEs doesn’t seem to hold water

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by DolphDallas on Sep 5, 2011 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

We only have 4 TEs and one of them will be gone before it's said and done

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by The Earl on Sep 5, 2011 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

exactly...

I fully expect outside of us installing a 4 TE set, that we will be losing the low TE on the totem pole once we get those 2 other guys up to speed. I fully expect that will be Mastrud at this point, but we will see.

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by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 5, 2011 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's between the new guy and Mastrud...

unless Rosario just completely sucks.

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by The Earl on Sep 5, 2011 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mastrud is probably going to be out the door unless he really shows something ...

Somehow I doubt he will…

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by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 5, 2011 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would love to have Allen and Edds back too. Both showed nasty attitudes, that set the

tone for our defense during PS. You can see pure heart when they’re on the field.

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by fin4three5yrs on Sep 5, 2011 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

But Allen was hurt all preseason. You can’t cut someone that was healthy all preseason in the hopes that an old CB will be able to stay healthy all season, when he couldn’t stay healthy in the preseason.

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by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 5, 2011 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

looked plenty healthy in the last preseason game

looked good too

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by DolphDallas on Sep 5, 2011 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was healthy for one preseason game ...

We have guys that are younger and who have upside. We have Benny Sapp who does as well as Will in the nickel spot. We also have the top CB tandem in the league…. lol… Will Allen didn’t fit in our numbers game…

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by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 5, 2011 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Will Allen has not been healthy... Edds was apparently our 52nd or 53rd guy

You really can’t keep an older vet who is your 6th CB and let go of some guys that you need for depth. Columbo is our starting RT still. Until we find someone that can do the job better who is not on IR, expect to see him on the team. Marvin Mitchell showed up more than Edds in the preseason. Ryan Baker is a stud so far… We have to have 2 traditional TEs for right now that know the playbook. Once these 2 TEs we brought in are up to speed expect to see one TE cut(maybe Mastrud). Ike Alama-Francis is a solid SOLB. Jerry is still in his second year. If we had just given up on Soliai instead of giving him a chance we wouldn’t have a franchise NT. Give the guy a chance. He is moving to RT and I am thinking he is going to challenge Columbo for that spot once he learns the position. He is more of a natural RT than he is a RG, because he doesn’t play well in a phonebooth(stepped on Henne’s foot 2 times in the same game last year).

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by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 5, 2011 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

in preaseason, Edds > Mitchell ...though Edds made mistakes that Mitchell didn't

that’s why you have growing pains for young players who are backups
and Ryan Baker is a solid player and versatile…but he’s no stud

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_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ RB _ _QB (Henne) . . . . . . . . . . \_ SC = Bush/Moore/Gates

by DolphDallas on Sep 5, 2011 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

How doe’s Sparano justify keeping Jerry, Colombo,Alama-Francis. Mitchell and cutting Edds & the left tackle who filled in for Long. I also hope he’s right about the halfback Thomas as didn’t show much either.

by freeforaller on Sep 5, 2011 8:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Murtha had a season ending injury

Prove everyone that said you weren't a franchise QB wrong, Henne. "WE WANT HENNE!!" GO PHINS!! What can I say I am a homer, I have come to terms with that and accepted it. I predict 10-6 and a wildcard berth. Jets got worse this year when they lost Ellis to the Patriots. The Patriots are going to be more solid on defense this year than they have in the past.

by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 5, 2011 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with every cut so far except:

Sapp and Allen (same decision), and the Edds.

Allen is excusable because of our policy towards injuries. Edds makes sense if we get him back on the PS and then he goes back on the 53 after a while.

Mercenaries never die. They just go to hell to regroup. - Unknown. I dont always make paradoxes, but when i do, i don't.- Brock Obama. Leading the fighter escort of SU-47s for the Lindley Bandwagon "pm striker king"- WZB.
Good, cheap FA upgrades out there: Gurode, E. Royster, L. Sheppard, J. KirkPatrick, K. O'Dowd, D. Thomas, D. Avery. Dolphins not pulling their weight: B. Sapp, J. Berger, J. Jerry, I. Alama-Francis, M. Columbo.

by PotM on Sep 5, 2011 8:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Frank Kearse was claimed on waivers by the Panthers

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by The Earl on Sep 5, 2011 9:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Damn

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Henne Beleiver '12

by Rytackle on Sep 5, 2011 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now reports are that he wasn't claimed...

Kearse told someone on the phone he was claimed by the Panthers, but now the Panthers are saying that isn’t true.

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by The Earl on Sep 5, 2011 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

There's something rotten in Denmark

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by Alpha6 on Sep 5, 2011 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ive herd tell that the opeium is stagnent, errnot moveing!

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We often look rite past the positive's cuz the negative's-r-so hard they dominate! Have you touched & preened your beaver-pelt today? There one thing that needs to be said (Miami Dolphin) i exspect you'll win!

by wild zion beaver on Sep 5, 2011 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

LLOOLL!

"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"

by Alpha6 on Sep 6, 2011 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

columbo, RT problems....

I guess I’d rather have my right tackle be the weaker of the two. With a right handed qb at least he would be able to see the rusher approach, and be able to adjust. I personally believe that the LT should be the better of the two, especially since he’s protecting the QB’s blind side.
I know that my only concern, as is shared by many here, is the RT position. Hopefully Coach has something up his sleeve that will fix this before Monday Night.

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by sixmikey9 on Sep 5, 2011 11:02 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

He has been planning for this game all preseason...

I think he knows exactly how he is going to deal with this Defense. They do not have a single guy that I would call a speed rusher on that team. I still believe he will be fine if he isn’t facing speed rushers just like Carey was.

Prove everyone that said you weren't a franchise QB wrong, Henne. "WE WANT HENNE!!" GO PHINS!! What can I say I am a homer, I have come to terms with that and accepted it. I predict 10-6 and a wildcard berth. Jets got worse this year when they lost Ellis to the Patriots. The Patriots are going to be more solid on defense this year than they have in the past.

by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 5, 2011 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Keep Allen or Sapp? if it was ur choice....

Me personally cut the one making more $$$$$

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by Redeyedbandit on Sep 6, 2011 1:50 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Cut Sapp

Mercenaries never die. They just go to hell to regroup. - Unknown. I dont always make paradoxes, but when i do, i don't.- Brock Obama. Leading the fighter escort of SU-47s for the Lindley Bandwagon "pm striker king"- WZB.
Good, cheap FA upgrades out there: Gurode, E. Royster, L. Sheppard, J. KirkPatrick, K. O'Dowd, D. Thomas, D. Avery. Dolphins not pulling their weight: B. Sapp, J. Berger, J. Jerry, I. Alama-Francis, M. Columbo.

by PotM on Sep 6, 2011 5:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sapp has outplayed Allen this training camp and preseason

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by The Earl on Sep 7, 2011 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Warren Sapp; clearly the best that the U. produced on the Defense, Well "one" of the top three!

Johnson; took one to Dallas. The Eagles; took one to Philly!

wopper "the king" computer
We often look rite past the positive's cuz the negative's-r-so hard they dominate! Have you touched & preened your beaver-pelt today? There one thing that needs to be said (Miami Dolphin) i exspect you'll win!

by wild zion beaver on Sep 7, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

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