Miami Dolphins Stock Watch
It's been a couple of weeks since we took a look at the rising and falling Miami Dolphins "stock." So, let's go ahead and take a look at this week's stock watch:
Rising:
- Daniel Thomas, Running back - Thomas has been impressive through his first two games, to the point of setting the Miami Dolphins rookie rushing record though a player's first two games. Thomas is averaging 4.9 yards through 41 carries (202 yards). After a preseason in which Thomas was criticized for his lack of aggression and the tentative way he hit the hole, Thomas seems to have solved that problem. The rookie isn't afraid of contact, and takes the ball straight at opponents.
- Brandon Fields, Punter - Fields has become one of Miami's best weapons. Fields is second in the league in punting average, currently holding at 53.3 yards per punt. He has a net average of 44.8 yards (3rd in NFL) and is fourth in the league with six punts inside the opponent's 20-yard line. Whenever the Dolphins' offense struggles, Fields is a constant field position changer - holding 3rd place in the league for longest single punt (70-yards).
- Brian Hartline, Wide Receiver - The Magician has 10 catches thus far this season. He's catching everything thrown his way right now, making some ridiculous catches over defenders and at the sideline. Hartline, along with Thomas, has become the primary weapon on the offense, and he is only getting better every game.
Holding
- Chad Henne, Quarterback - Henne has actually played fairly well through the first three games of the season. He is averaging 7.79 yards per attempt (13th in the league and over a yard higher than his career average). He has four touchdowns on the year, and three interceptions, with two of those picks coming on last play heaves, and the third coming when his elbow was hit as he tried to thrown the ball. Henne also has a 7.9 yards per carry average, having rushed 14 times for 111 yards and 1 touchdown. Those stats put Henne ahead of Ricky Williams, Danny Woodhead, Chris Johnson, and Brandon Jacobs. In fact, Henne is the 33rd highest rusher so far this season.
Falling
- Brandon Marshall, Wide Receiver - Something is wrong with Marshall, and it's become a problem for the team. Marshall has dropped passes all over the field, including one this past week in the endzone. He has also changed routes, leading to Henne throwing the ball to the wrong location. Whatever is wrong with Marshall, he has been putting in extra work this week to ensure he is ready for the entire game plan. Hopefully he snaps back and becomes the #1 Miami needs.
- Reggie Bush, Running back - This is partially the offense's problem because the team is misusing Bush. But, it doesn't really matter, because Bush came to Miami explaining how he was going to be the workhorse. Currently, with an extra game to rack up stats, Bush is 133 yards behind Thomas, and has gotten 14-fewer carries. The team is also not looking at Bush in the passing game. Plus, the Dolphins were awarded former Houston Texans running back Steve Slaton this week. After making a splash in the preseason by trading for Bush, he is slowly disappearing from the offense.
- Jake Long, Offensive Tackle - It pains me to put Long here. He's still one of the top left tackles in the league, but there's the problem. He's one of the best - not THE best. Long has been getting beat this year, and has made un-Jake-like mistakes leading to multiple penalties.
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Thanks Mosul
You have a level head on your shoulder and aren’t ditching Henne He has played well his o-line hasn’t
here kitty kitty kitty BANG!
And about 3 or 4 were his fault, the rest is the line, IMO, Dont agree about the Brandon stock falling
he is always drawing double teams,and cant be targeted as much. Bush stock has dropped not by his fault that would be play calling and coaching!!
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by 21Dave on Sep 29, 2011 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
OC; Deboil needs to get 7 or 8 "screens to Bush" every game, if your gonna have an exsplosive player, why not let him blow up the others defence!
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We often look rite past the positive's cuz the negative's-r-so hard they dominate! Have you touched & preened your beaver-pelt today? There one thing that needs to be said (Miami Dolphin) i exspect you'll win!
by wild zion beaver on Sep 29, 2011 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions
this wood cure at least 2-3 sacks a game!
wopper "the king" computer
We often look rite past the positive's cuz the negative's-r-so hard they dominate! Have you touched & preened your beaver-pelt today? There one thing that needs to be said (Miami Dolphin) i exspect you'll win!
by wild zion beaver on Sep 29, 2011 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
i dont understand us not
doing this since the first game. Did the offence put up too many yards that game? Are we saving Reggie for something bigger down the road? They have to know the paved road is quickly turning to gravel and quicksand is approaching very fast.
"I likem me some UDFAs"
You can never get enough Bush!
by Phintastic on Sep 30, 2011 5:24 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Thx sumone reads not just coments!
REC!!!!
wopper "the king" computer
We often look rite past the positive's cuz the negative's-r-so hard they dominate! Have you touched & preened your beaver-pelt today? There one thing that needs to be said (Miami Dolphin) i exspect you'll win!
by wild zion beaver on Sep 30, 2011 8:29 AM EDT up reply actions
According to PFF (from what I counted)
Henne has dropped back 130 times with 11 sacks, 16 hits, 5 hits while throwing, and 27 pressures. Not good at all……. oh and they have Henne 5th overall behind Brady, Brees, Rodgers and Fitzpatrick. Some really interesting stats at PFF.
Damn! I thought last year's OL was bad! They let Henne get hit in the low 30s over ALL 15 games.
This group is on track for 55 QB hits.
The choices you make dictate the life you lead. -Greydanus. Two roads diverged in a wood, and I - I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference. - Robert Frost. Leading the fighter escort of SU-47s for the Lindley Bandwagon. Leader and Founder of the Ray Ray Armstrong for 2012 Bandwagon "pm striker king"- WZB. Good, cheap FA upgrades out there: Gurode, E. Royster, J. KirkPatrick, K. O'Dowd, D. Thomas. Dolphins not pulling their weight: J. Jerry, I. Alama-Francis, M. Columbo.
I saw an interesting stat today...
I can’t pull up the numbers but someone pointed out how Thomas is doing a great job and all but he doesn’t command the attention Bush does and therefore Miami isn’t as productive. Look at the total yards production in the NE game vs the rest. It has went down. I’ve pretty much concluded that Sparano isn’t that great of a coach. I’m not sure yet, because the OC has a lot to do with this but still.
Haters gon' hate...
Hartline is a riser, but let's not go overboard.
He’s catching everything thrown his way right now, making some ridiculous catches over defenders and at the sideline.
You know why Hartline has to make “ridiculous catches over defenders and at the sideline”? Because he doesn’t create enough separation from the defender to make “easy” catches.
"It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing." MACBETH
"Walter, I love you, but sooner or later, you're going to have to face the fact you're a goddamn moron." THE DUDE (The Big Lebowski)
Henne and Hartline, from 20 to 20, have been fine. They are playing well.
I am just saying let’s not go overboard yet. Let’s see them score some TD’s (along with Marshall, Bess, and Fasano).
They need to produce TD’s to take the next step.
"It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing." MACBETH
"Walter, I love you, but sooner or later, you're going to have to face the fact you're a goddamn moron." THE DUDE (The Big Lebowski)
hartline is overrated.
dont even see him as a riser. dont see him making ridiculous catches either. he is not a #2 WR. he is backup material. we are suppose to have depth at the WR position but yet hartline is still the #2. ur right he can not create seperation and until we get a real #2, defenses will continue to focus more on marshall. morlon moore and wallace is way better then hartline.
i was kinda wondering too – 10 catches makes you a “riser” ?
I’m not sold that Hartline is NFL Starter material right now either personally
there are a lot of guys with more rec than Hartline including Marshall AND Bess
Name Team Rec
Wes Welker NWE 31
Matt Forte CHI 22
Andre Johnson HOU 21
Mike Wallace PIT 21
Nate Washington TEN 21
Darren Sproles NOR 21
Roddy White ATL 20
Earnest Graham TAM 20
David Nelson BUF 20
Mike Tolbert SDG 20
Stevie Johnson BUF 20
Jeremy Maclin PHI 19
Jason Witten DAL 19
Greg Jennings GNB 18
Brandon Marshall MIA 17
Rob Gronkowski NWE 17
Vincent Jackson SDG 17
Kenny Britt TEN 17
Santana Moss WAS 16
Brandon Pettigrew DET 16
Calvin Johnson DET 16
Dustin Keller NYJ 16
Steve Smith CAR 16
A.J. Green CIN 15
Michael Jenkins MIN 15
Jermichael Finley GNB 15
Jahvid Best DET 15
Vernon Davis SFO 15
Larry Fitzgerald ARI 15
Mike Thomas JAC 15
Eric Decker DEN 15
Deion Branch NWE 15
Tony Gonzalez ATL 14
Hakeem Nicks NYG 14
Aaron Hernandez NWE 14
Nate Burleson DET 14
Dexter McCluster KAN 14
Ray Rice BAL 14
Ryan Mathews SDG 14
Reggie Wayne IND 14
Anquan Boldin BAL 14
Miles Austin DAL 14
Robert Meachem NOR 14
Jimmy Graham NOR 14
Chris Johnson TEN 13
Jonathan Stewart CAR 13
Jabar Gaffney WAS 13
Julio Jones ATL 13
Brandon Gibson STL 12
Davone Bess MIA 12
Greg Olsen CAR 12
by scrappy the wildcat on Sep 30, 2011 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions
okay i get it
a week to week team stock watch deal. now I understand the title better thanks.
wake me up when he has a 10 catch 100 yd 2-td performance
if we are getting excited about 4-87-0 we are really desperate
by scrappy the wildcat on Sep 30, 2011 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Let me get this straight....
Hartline isnt a starter with 10 catches but Brandon Gibson is with 12….?? Boldin is #1 for the ravens and yet hes only got 4 more catches than hartline. Granted, hes scored more touchdowns but how many TD passes has hartline dropped?? Or even been thrown to?? 10, for 170 and 1 TD is good for week three. especially the way the dolpins have been playing.
Bess is only averaging 4 catches a game with 12. 10 is a good number. i dont understand. if he had what, 11 catches he would be starter material?? or does it take a performance like Torrey Smith of the Ravens, 5 for 150 i think, and 3TDs in one game?? because thats never gonna happen.
I dont know, i probably know the least about FB of everyone here but still. those are solid numbers from this team right now IMO
17 YPC. That is awesome!
The choices you make dictate the life you lead. -Greydanus. Two roads diverged in a wood, and I - I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference. - Robert Frost. Leading the fighter escort of SU-47s for the Lindley Bandwagon. Leader and Founder of the Ray Ray Armstrong for 2012 Bandwagon "pm striker king"- WZB. Good, cheap FA upgrades out there: Gurode, E. Royster, J. KirkPatrick, K. O'Dowd, D. Thomas. Dolphins not pulling their weight: J. Jerry, I. Alama-Francis, M. Columbo.
Why are some so quick to blame the wrong routes on Marshall and praise Henne?
I believe its Henne not throwing where he should be throwing more then it is Marshall running the wrong route.
Henne needs to step up
B Marshall + B Hartline D Bess = The 2nd comming of The Killer B's MPF 04/17/10
If I took the time to check for errors I would forget what I was trying to say! Deal !
why? because it isn't happening with the other receivers.
The choices you make dictate the life you lead. -Greydanus. Two roads diverged in a wood, and I - I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference. - Robert Frost. Leading the fighter escort of SU-47s for the Lindley Bandwagon. Leader and Founder of the Ray Ray Armstrong for 2012 Bandwagon "pm striker king"- WZB. Good, cheap FA upgrades out there: Gurode, E. Royster, J. KirkPatrick, K. O'Dowd, D. Thomas. Dolphins not pulling their weight: J. Jerry, I. Alama-Francis, M. Columbo.
Jake Long
I do not believe that Jake has fully recovered from his injury. He looks extremely rusty and do not forget he was not able to practice until the last 10 days of pre season. In addition, his first in game experience was the opener against New England. The lockout really hurt him because he could not see our trainer. Several of the ESPN football analysts mentioned this point that for football players in general to go to physical therapists instead of seeing their trainer puts them at a distinct disadvantage. Trainers are more familiar with a player’s pain tolerance. In addition, I believe that because the overall line play has been bad that Long may be trying to do too much. I expect him to be much better after the bye week.
by sundevil11 on Sep 29, 2011 9:41 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Agreed
Pretty harsh putting Long on the list. If anything I think he looked a little healthier last week than the first two outings this season but even at that he’s clearly not 100%. I guess he’s there purely because we’ve all come to expect so much from him that it’s hard to accept anything less than a top performance even when injured.
I got a bad feeling about this...
wow no mention of any defensive players
i am surprised
Ok Zsnoop I will bite ,Dansby with the Hammie pull, Burnett's name has not been called all season, just his numbe to throw at,
FS is horrid and that is an understatement. Our line gets no penetration period. We run 3-4 we run4-3 we still cant get any pressure. With because NE showed how to stop that with 2 split TE on the field to make our ends cover in a zone, that takes them out of the play. I would run nickle a bit more and make them beat us with the run. This way our D-line can try to add pressure while our nickle backs can cover, just a thought.
TO ACQUIRE KNOWLEDGE; ONE MUST STUDY,TO ACQUIRE WISDOM ONE MUST OBSERVE !!
YOU ARE NOT BORN A WINNER, YOU ARE NOT BORN A LOSER, YOU ARE WHAT YOU MAKE YOURSELF BECOME !!
I LIKE TO TAKE A AMBIEN RIGHT BEFORE I GET ON THIS SITE,15 MINUTES LATER, ITS A GREAT RIDE
Yes.
This is a common theme in the NFL and with it being a pass-based league I don’t know WHY we don’t jump on this.
We have a TIGHT END SPECIALIST in cornerback Sean Smith. We need him lined up on the other team’s stud tight end on EVERY DOWN. Owen Daniels, Gronkowski, Ben Watson, Brent Celek, Dustin Keller, Antonio Gates (thankfully we don’t have to worry about him) the list goes on.
WE NEED TO RUN A NICKLE DEFENSE against the other team’s base. We need to run a dime against their 3 WR pack. It’s just the way it is. Every team that doesn’t have Patrick Willis or another top 5 MLB must do this in today’s NFL.
by DolfanVince86 on Sep 30, 2011 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
yeah,
Cameron wake has fell off
IM HUNGRY, FEED THE WOLF
by dolfan702 on Sep 30, 2011 12:26 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Why?
Everything this team does defies football intelligence,.Laughs square in the face at it
1. Starting Noaln Carrol,.Why?? Ever??
2. Running Reggie up the middle more than the edge,..Why?? Ever??
3. Changing the starting O-line all the time,.Why?? Ever??
4. Getting Larry Johnson twice,.cutting him twice,.Why?,..Ever?
5. Passing at the one foot line,..Why,.Ever
6. Practicing in a bubble,.Why,.Ever
7.Not using Reggie as a reciever,.Why,.Ever
8.Calling a time out at your own 19 yrd line and then punting in the 4th qtr,.Why?,..Ever??
9.Not running off the left side more than the right,.Why?,.Ever?
10.Not saving the last 28 seconds of the 1st half against Texans when you had 2 timeouts.Why?.ever?
Keeping a lame duck coach that would rather score fgs over touchdowns,.WHY?? EVVERR?!!!!
FIRE SPORANO!!!,.any questions?? Or do You Need 10 more reasons?
Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/09/29/2431353/dolphins-claim-slaton-off-waivers.html#ixzz1ZPaKHG50
the answers to your questions are really quite simple
1. Because we had no choice,given the alternative,Vontae was hurt,and Will Allen is needed in the slot. Now that we have Nathan Jones,it may be a little different,but we didnt have him up to speed,and without Clemmons,something was needed in pass protection,so we slid Smith to FS,where he might have a better mind on things.
2. We have a rookie center,but he is playing better than our RT,the edges arent setting well,and this causes us to play unconventional football. Not to mention people practice protection on the outside because that is where they think conentional wisdom will go with a guy like Reggie.
3. Because the current one isnt working,and unsettling as it seems,big named free agent O linemen dont put people in seats,so we neglect to do so because people with names like Bush,Marshall,and Dansby do. So our oline is in a hot mess.
4. We needed to do something,and didnt have the coin to procure one of the top names. 5-11 million dollar contracts are killing us in the procurement of solid aqquisitions,so we remain trying to find hidden gems out of other peoples garbage.
5. Because we just cant seem to run it in. people see the red zone,and play the run,good teams stack the lines,and hell even bad teams do,our right side demands we go with unconventional wisdom,and the lesser of two evils,or as it seems.
6. Because the bubble has speakers,and can be manipulated to simulate the roar of the crowd. You have to have some sort of practice against the hidden twelth man on the field.
7. Because we have Marshall,Bess,Hartline,Moore,Fasano,and a slew of others,yet only Bush and DT as runningback threats. DT had yet to show his ability to handle the duties,and we had to see what Clyde Gates had to offer. Expect this one to change soon.
8. Problems lining up,plain and simple. Thats more a tribute to coaching though,and should be practiced more.
9. Again,because it is expected of us. Plainly put,everyone knows the right side is our weak side,so most of the protection is slid to the left. This means we have to try and figure out ways to move the chains,even if it means running to our weak side.
10. That was simply bone headed coaching,and an attempt at clock consumption,something needed in case we did score,it didnt give the opposition a chance to get the ball back with any time on the clock.
Who would you rather have? The better coaching choices were all taken,and/or spurned by our owner. TBH,we almost risked losing him as well,if our beloved owner didnt offer the contract extension,we could be looking at a disasterous coaching choice and be tied up for two useless contracts wed have to eat up in the absence of them both after this season is over.
by dolphinfan4lyfe on Sep 30, 2011 1:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
good one! lol.
by NC Livin! MIA Born and Bred! on Sep 30, 2011 8:08 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I don't know Paul M... but his 10 reasons...
IS SO FNG TRUE !….Our whole team defies logic any more. and its on TONY S. – even more than jerk off jeff ireland. tony has the power EVERY game day to make adjustments (halftime anyone) and change things that are not working – but he never does. I could name several people on this site that could call a better game plan…MOSUL, CT1361, Nicky, OFFL, Me (62Lou) TexasCP… the list goes on…
WHY don’t we:
1. Pass the ball to start games to Bush (ala 49ers old offense with Roger Craig)
2. How about getting Marshall the ball IN SPACE out of the slot ON THE RUN ?
3. run the damn ball from inside the 5 OVER Jake Long ?
4. Stop telegraphing EVERY blitz ?
5. Put a foot up Vontae’s azz and get him back on the field ? (useless)
6. BENCH COLOMBO (sucks)
7. Bring Back A J Edds ( Burnett has been terrible)
8. figure our why Dansby has about 3 tackles per game ??? WTF
9. Move to a 4-3 front….
10……….just FIRE tony and get it over with….
41 Year FIN FAN
Franchise QB... NOW !!! ...Draft Ryan Mallett ...Draft some Freakin speed for a change. WR & RB speed kills......
this
except i disagree about burnett. and i disagree even more with the idea of replacing him with edds.
by DolfanVince86 on Sep 30, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions
a decade of poor playing and planning
All above posts make excellent points but lets look back at the past 10 years. This organization has made some major blunders in choices of coaches – QB – trading great players – draft choices with a few exceptions – I could go on but you all know what I’m saying. Look around the league – why is it that other teams can pick up an OC or DC who turns out to be a great coach – why is it other teams – mainly NE end up with two or three first round picks every year and plenty of other high picks. What is it Miami is doing wrong by consistently making bad choices in staff and players? Had JJ not anointed Wanny head coach when he left – well things seemed to go down hill from there. I’m just sayin this team has a decade long history of poor choices so why should this year be any different? I think it all has to be put on the desk of the owner – This guy Ross in my opinion hasn’t a clue about how to put together a good football team.
Mis-targeted
Ross is doing the main thing needed of him, laying out bucks to get great talent. He was willing to lay out $10M a year to improve the coaching talent recruiting Harbaugh – while that effort missed I give him credit for the attempt.
The main deficiency of Ross has to do with not being a football person and sticking with the guys he inherited. As I see it Ireland has basically done his core job of greatly upgrading our talent – not perfect but at least a B. Sparano however has failed at multiple levels – failing to dump failing subordinates, misusing expensive talent like Bush, destroying an excellent OL by churning and failing to construct an adequate replacement, sticking with an outmoded highly conservative game plan that just does not work under current rules and on and on. Ross was right in wanting to replace him but did not get it done. We have to get it done next time. For now the thing to do is to fire Sparano, make Nolan the HC and see if he can perform in the next 13 games. For the future the facts are that no head coach who has build a superbowl caliber team or dynasty ever did so again at second team – reflecting the fact that building a champion required youth and 100 hour weeks – so the key is to find a very talented young coach capable of becoming a winner long term – someone smart, creative, successful, who understands the game and is driven to excellence.
Henne is much improved
Henne is much improved over last year – with no help from his OL. He still has a ways to develop, esp on accuracy but he is playing much better. If he was not getting sacked and pressured every play he would be even better. Amazing that Sparano is supposed to be an OL guru but 4 years and many draft picks into the process he still cannot field a first rate OL. Henne has also shown some courage and moxie running when needed. That said, properly using Bush should force some defensive players to hold back and give Henne more time.
Henne is good enough for Miami to win if Sparano uses his resources properly. Big IF.
by student1776 on Sep 30, 2011 1:55 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I agree with this assessment if only for 2 things
We once again focus on the oline this offseason
And get an actual QB coach,that can help him with short yardage accuracy.
One would give us balance we need in the teams offense. We have seemed to lack one or the other even when we had Marino. A good mixture of run and pass goes a long way with a bit of luck,as led by the example of the Jets,Patriots and yes,even Buffalo. Give credit where credit is due. Even if the passing game is aided by sheer luck and not skill I.e jets.
Our right side cannot be helped,even with the help of the refs,i.e patriots. But can be resolve with a true left guard and a right tackle worth his salt.
Make our offense become more than simply one dimensional and one sided and the comment that Henne is good enough to win us some games holds true
by dolphinfan4lyfe on Sep 30, 2011 2:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
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