Miami Dolphins at Cleveland Browns - The Story Of Yet Another Loss
They say it's a game of inches.
But it is also a game of moments.
The Miami Dolphins had every chance to win this game. And in a few particular moments, they lost it.
For example:
- Dan Carpenter NOT missing the first 51 yard Field Goal attempt - Would have won the game.
- The Dolphins Offense red zone failure (once again) - Down to the Cleveland 5 yard line and coming away with 3 points. A touchdown would have won the game.
- Reggie Bush NOT fumbling on the Cleveland 19 on what would have been a 3rd and 5, and certainly a 3 point FG (even with Dan Carpenter's limited range) would have won the game.
- Davone Bess NOT running backwards on 3rd and long, when he HAD THE FIRST DOWN! - would have kept that drive alive.
- Jason Taylor NOT jumping offsides on 3rd and 10 at the Miami 27, on what would have been an incomplete pass bringing up 4th and 10. This certainly helped to LOSE the game.
- Connecting on ANY of those last drive passes, getting the Dolphins within Carpenter's limited Field Goal range, might have won the game
There were some good individual performances in this game, but the overall appearance of a team that is just not fighting for the win is overshadowing even the few bright spots....
I am not going to rehash the things that have been beat to death all week in every local Miami newspaper's sports section, or Miami sports blog. We all know the topics - The team has no fight; the leadership is lacking; the coaching is terrible; Fire Sparano, etc. etc.
I happen to agree that this problem with the team performance has been illuminated to be an overall coaching problem - but to be honest, even though Tony Sparano is ultimately responsible, I am not sure how much of the Defensive problem is strictly due to Mike Nolan - or how much of the Red Zone woes are due to Brian Daboll's play calling.
The Miami Defense did not play horribly today - but when put in proper perspective, they damn sure didn't play well. You might look at the final score and say that they did well to hold the Cleveland Browns to 17 points. But the Browns have Colt McCoy as Quarterback, and were without their star running back in Peyton Hillis. To be honest, I would have expected a GOOD Defense to have shut them out.
The Miami Offense played well overall, but continues to struggle in the Red Zone.
Here are a few key notes on the game:
Daniel Thomas looks good! The kid looks like the real deal! He runs hard, keeps his pads low, hits the hole hard, and drags first tacklers. He can also catch, and seems to pick up blitzers well. The more I see of this kid, the more I like. One note of concern - rookies typically hit a rookie wall after 10 games or so because of the longer NFL season. Rookie Running Backs are notably susceptible to getting worn down. And if the Fins lean on him to hard early in the season, he might run out of steam. HOWEVER... If the Fins don't start winning - I won't matter anyhow!
Reggie Bush - Why? He struggles after first contact, which makes him a wasted play when run up the middle. Why call it? If you are going to use him, but him in the backfield with Thomas or Hilliard, or line him up in the slot where he can catch the ball in space.
Chad Henne looked good - mostly. I think Henne is actually getting better! There are those that will want to pin this loss on Henne throwing that last interception, but I say that it was more on Henne's teammates. Even on that last drive, there was a catch that Devone Bess could have made but didn't. But the game should not have been lost on that last throw. Henne had a respectable game, and I say that with better play calling and coaching in Red Zone situations, this game would have been won in the first half. No quarterback makes EVERY throw, but Henne made some very accurate, very excellent throws in this game, that showed a confidence I have not seen much of in previous games. I have hope for Henne.
Brandon Marshall didn't look fired up. I don't know if it was just his hamstring bothering him or if it was just Joe Haden bothering him, but other than that personal foul that he finally drew out of frustration, he was pretty much un-involved for the entire game.
Jimmy Wilson looks good - He plays the ball! Even though he got beat on that last TD, he was still going after the ball, and he was a pubic hair away from tipping it! He came away with a heads up Interception, by grabbing a ball that came into his area, even though you could see he wasn't expecting it. This kid's got skills!
Sean Smith never seems to play the ball! I am getting tired of seeing this guy waiting for the receiver to catch the ball before he reacts! I-I-I say there son! You're built too low; the fast ones go right over your head! Turn Your Head Around Son!!!!!
Brian Hartline - Hot! If he keep playing like that, the opposing Defenses will have to pick their poison. Downside? Marshall seems to withdraw when he is not the focal point of the passing game.
Carpenter - cold. Goes back two game - What more can I say?
0-3
You ARE what your record says you are, but since I am going to see them next Sunday at Qualcomm Stadium, all I can say is:
YOU BETTER NOT PLAY LIKE A DAMN 0-3 TEAM WHEN I PAID GOOD MONEY TO COME DOWN THERE TO SEE YOU!!!!
Pray for change! Whatever that change might be, it can't be any worse.
Cheers Fin Fans!
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Hey I'll take your ticket ; )
but over all well made points, in the end though I think we are looking at another rebuilt unless we still manage 9-7 or better somehow (doubt it). So I guess from here on out it’s mostly a moot point. (Don’t worry still a fan, support the team etc etc).
dolphins 0-3
I went to the game and miami out played the browns all game except for the browns last drive pathetic . this team isnt playing to win rather not to lose imo.
this seems true, and has been the criticism main of Tony S for the past few years now.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 26, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I've never seen a coach get as fired up for field goals as Tony Sparano does.
Never. Field goals by themselves don’t win you football games, but you wouldn’t know it watching Tony Sparano.
by AlmightyHamSandwich on Sep 26, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL
there is an on running joke around here about Sparano fist pumping FGs…
;^)
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 26, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I just want to win :(
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Still a fan. That will never change.
But what better change is the way our guys play football. It was said back in the beginning of the year when Ross made that move for Tony’s replacement, a broken play as it were, that the team would have no motivation to play for a lame duck coach. Turns out that was true. Then we pick up a bargain basement OC. OK, a head scratcher but we give Daboll a chance to prove himself. He hasn’t. My best guess is an 0-5 start and an excellent position to be in if we’re looking to draft Luck. Unless this commitment to losing turns around, Tony won’t make it past the bye and JI will be gone next season. The biggest puzzle to me is Nolan’s defense. Why don’t we seem to match up with anybody ?
We always come up with new and various ways to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Once the Cameron-Mueller-Sparano-Ireland era ends and the rebuilding under Cowher begins, the Dolphins will return to relevence.
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i honestly don't know what to think about Daboll
i like the more aggressive play calling in general, but the red zone performance is terrible.
I am beginning to wonder whether Tony S is letting Daboll call his own plays or if he is dictating the general play selection, like putting mandates in for more running plays, etc.
The first game, the offense was clicking, and I would have expected them to build on that.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 26, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Is It Rumor
Or is there any basis ? I see Sparano’s fingerprints all over it … but it’s still unconfirmed. Is Daboll allowed to call plays as long as he stays between the lines ? It walks like a duck and quacks like a duck. Is it a Sparano ?
It is only a rumor that Sparano calls plays
I wouldn’t be surprised though if Sparano does dictate on how the plays are called, but Daboll calls the specific play itself.
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
He's been called out by his own players as "micromanaging"
How bad does he have to be micromanaging that his own players complain of it? And if he’s micromanaging his players, many of whom make more money than he does, how bad must he be micromanaging his coaching staff?
I guarantee that he has demolished anything fresh or innovative about Daboll’s gameplan. 100% guarantee it.
by DolfanVince86 on Sep 26, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Would these be the same ignorant jackasses
Who picked the Fins to win 3 and 4 games, respectively? With each passing game, they are looking less ignorant in that regard. As far as blaming the owner…that was one of the reasons they gave for picking the way they did, and I don’t disagree with them, actually. By his actions in the fiasco with not-so-secretly courting Harbaugh and Cowher, he basically told Sparano “hey, we don’t really want to keep you, but you’ll have to do for now.” That can’t inspire confidence and loyalty among the staff and players. I’m thinking NFL Films could save some money when putting together the season recap for the 2011 Miami Dolphins….as so far, they could simply break out some old Keystone Cops footage. I love my Fins and all, but it’s looking like yet another frustrating season for us.
by blackadder_650 on Sep 26, 2011 7:34 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
The Very Same!
I never said they couldn’t pick the records of a few (very few) teams, but they insist Sparano is a GOOD coach. Really?
i have to agree with you
the owner is not training the players or calling the plays.
Sparano might be a good coach, but that’s where the buck stops in terms of who is responsible for team success…. or lack thereof.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 26, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
There was a really good article on another Phins blog
And they made the point that the HC fiasco during the offseason turned Sparano into a lame duck coach and that it would be extremely difficult for him to get respect from the players because of it. I thought it was a very good point.
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by OldJetsFanatic on Sep 26, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
It didn't take a popular host to realize TS was a lame duck.
I think we all knew that. The only part is this lame duck is not flying out of the range of the cross-hairs pointed directly at him. He’s just becoming a bigger target after each passing week.
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
how will he be able to fly out of range if the players dont respect him?
they knew since the beginning of the year that there was question as too whether or no TS would be here after this season..So as long as there was any dought,TS will not get 100% from 100% of the players..To me,it all kind of falls back on Ross cuz now we dont know how the players would have responded if they had not been aware of the HC situation via Ross in the 1st place..
I don't buy that
Coaches are often on the hot seat. Coughlin has been living on the hot seat for years and some players were vocal against him. His team never gave up. Del Rio has constantly been on the hot seat and survived. He went 8-8 last year. Oh yes, Belichick was on the hot seat when Drew Bledsoe was injured. He still had the respect of players and won.
Yes, it is difficult life on the hot seat. The thing is, players aren’t only playing for their HC. They’re playing for money, their love of the game, and especially so when their coach is on the hot seat, their own job security. Did the Harbaugh mishap make it tougher for him? Absolutely, but that is not an excuse for the team’s current failures.
Ross’ move was foolish and I said it at the time. Even if he didn’t do it, we knew Sparano was on the hot seat, but it made matters worse. I haven’t been a fan of Ross and I still have concerns about him, but the situation we’re in now isn’t because of the Harbaugh fiasco.
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
by Finhead83 on Sep 26, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I also factor in that the players are lollygagging in practice.
The players are gonna fire this coach, or at least have a good percentage of responsibility in doing so….
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But it is also the coach's responsibility to prevent players slacking during practice.
Which is why the players were much more serious in their practice up until their loss against Cleveland.
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
completely agree 83
Well said and rec’d
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 26, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Excellently said Finhead
Rec’d
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"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
Lame as hell
Lets face it ,.If he were a good coach then the owner wouldnt have been trying to replace him,.He has been lame since day one,.He is horrible,.Why are we waiting till AFTER th CHARGERS game to put this fool out of his misery? They say the NFL is a cruel business,.Its not cruel enough!!!! Unbelievable
I missed that segment.
At the top of the show they said Adam Schefter would be on with discussions about Sparano possibly getting fired. Did they ever discuss that? I missed Adam if he came on in the 6AM hour
I believe he said
The most likely scenario would be if they go to San Diego and lose to go 0-4, then Sparano could very well be fired going into the bye week, giving replacement more time to take over before next game. Don’t remember any possoble names mentioned, just a possible scenario.
by blackadder_650 on Sep 26, 2011 9:24 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Oh ok, thanks alot
If the interim coach is someone from the insde, I still hope Ross hires someone else for next season.
In a way I hope that scenario you described happens because at this point a lucky win at SD would just be false hope.
Waiting????
I hate that we are waiting for something thats inevitable,.Its ridiculous and its weak,.And weak and football is a badd mix,..Go figure,.the owner is as gutless as our coach,..FIRE HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by Patssuck456 on Sep 26, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
I think you covered just about everything and i agree
maybe im nutz but this o-line looks alot like the one we had last year. turnstiles. especially on the right side. even when jerry came for cary there wasnt much difference. 11 sacks in 2 weeks is going to get henne hurt, then who we got, geez. I will continue to root on this disfuctional team, but have no expectaions of them doing anything. what a waste of talent.
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by NawlinsPhinFan on Sep 26, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Jerry is terrible
the O-line has not come together well, and is thin in terms of depth.
HOWEVER – there were many play in which Henne had plenty of time in the pocket, and where Danny Thomas found running room.
The line isn’t great, but it is serviceable with good play calling. The problem comes when penalties or botched plays put the Offense in predictable situations.
IMO
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 26, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
But then again...
The OL has committed a lot of those dumb penalties…
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
SAME GAME
Thats part of the problem,..Sporano cant keep our line intact,.he is constanly changing the roster so they cant gel or get cohesive,.Sampson Satele is playing we for the Raiders,.Who woulda guessed??? I bet he got coached up!,.We coach down,..FIRE SPORANO,..NO MORE FG’S!
Nice post LCFF
I see a few knee jerk reactions on message boards and wondering if I watched a different game but it looks like I wasn’t the only one thinking positive about Thomas, that Henne is making headway, Wilson plays like Smith should and Reggie is being wasted.
Enjoy the trip to SD next week.
I got a bad feeling about this...
Agreed
I really like what I’ve seen of Thomas so far…he always seems to fall forward and give a good push. The biggest thing that has bothered me, in EVERY game, so far, is not nearly enough pressure on the QB’s. Once in a great while, they will get a sack, or maybe hurry the pass, but it seems more often than not, the opposing QB gets to impersonate a statue before delivering the ball to an open receiver. I think we should line up with pigeons in passing situations in a desperate effort to get the QB’s uniform dirty.
by blackadder_650 on Sep 26, 2011 7:45 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
agreed. our d-line, that was suppsed to be our strength
is looking like a liability. But isn’t that up to Nolan to get fixed? I would have thought he would have figured it out bu game 3.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 26, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
thanks brutha Fin =)
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 26, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
We are still a losing organization (going on for years now)
We have to get a serious nfl coach:
1. One who doesn’t pump his fist when we settle for a field goal.
2. One who sets up an offensive line that will work and doesn’t spend years “tinkering” with it.
3. One that doesn’t always tell the players that their doing a great job, when they are playing terrible…
4. One that keeps seeing the positives in losing games.
5. Etc. Etc. Etc. ( I could go on for days but it won’t change anything)
Jimbo
by Dolphinator on Sep 26, 2011 8:05 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
i can't argue with you
that’s why i decided not to make that a theme of the article. It is like shooting fish in a barrel. ;^)
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 26, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
HOWA BOUT?
How about a coach that doesnt grade his players and then they all play like F’s
this team misses Crowder...
He brought more than football to this team! He was the generator of attitude. Covering tight ends is his downfall…really? Watson was open all day long against an improved LB corps. Bring back Crowder and the defense plays top notch.
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by phatfinfan on Sep 26, 2011 8:09 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
It's Monday.
Take a step back, a deep breath, and go focus on life (for a day).
& wear your Phins shirt.
I never got a prize for doing what was expected of me.
I'm with you, sir.
I shall proudly sport the Dolphin’s logo.
On the Brink of Greatness. Your 2011 Miami Dolphins!
by kdock on Sep 26, 2011 9:04 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Beautiful pic for the avatar!
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
What *is* this? Sanity from the Tuna?
A tuna sandwich has a different meaning for you, huh…. lol
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
Tuna sandwiches...
So much fish oil…
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
hey hey hey
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and Dolphin friendly, too!
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by Tunaflipper on Sep 26, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
So...
If you’re messing around with an octopus, is it considered an orgy? I’m not familiar with the laws of the sea!
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
If octo means eight and pus means, well pus... then it's an eight pus animal.
The white monkey will be so happy, tho I don’t know how cross breeding works between land mammals and sea creatures.
Maybe Tuna can let us in on that….
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
That is...
A lot of hair. Nicky would get lost! Someone get that midget a beacon…
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
heya flip
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 26, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Think Positive
Hopefully in a couple of weeks Sparano will be gone. If we get lucky and go 0-16 maybe we’ll have a coach who will actually draft Luck. The fins are pathetic this year finding ways to lose and excuses after every game.
It would be easy to think positive
If we see a new coach asap. However, all the talk seems to be within these posts and in papers. From what I’ve read this moring on miami sites, the front office doesn’t plan on making any changes now. I wish they’d just do it so we have something to look forward to.
Dude, drafting Luck is not this team's solutions to ALL it's woes! Be real.
Offensive Line giving up 5 sacks…how many sacks did we have?
Fumbles/Turnovers
Costly inopportune penalties
Defensive Secondary can’t come up with plays…Will Allen had a dude right in front of him to prevent first down and totally whiffed
Carpenter missing chip shot field goals
Bottom Line this is a team game and 1 man EVEN DAN MARINO couldn’t cure all this team’s issues right now
by silverking13 on Sep 26, 2011 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
well said.
for once I am glad to say that the QB position is not losing the games.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 26, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
wait...what?
lemme get this talk straight….r u saying that hoping we go 0-16 is thinking positive?
=)
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 26, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
So do we host some kicker tryouts this week?
I know 51 yards is a long attempt but we’ve got a disturbing trend happening here. And I do believe there will be more blood in the water this week as the fallout continues. People will start asking Ross for a public endorsement of Sparano and then gauge his willingness to provide it.
It’s about to get interesting down in Davie.
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by kdock on Sep 26, 2011 9:09 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Kickers have slumps. Unfortunately, there's no parience for it....
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
I wonder...
If I was still so erroneous for my statements earlier in this year lol
You're always wrong, except for when you're right... lol
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
i was wrong once....
back in ’87…. it was when I thought I was wrong, but was really right.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 26, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Ross is a business Man
I have to think if the Dolphins come back to Miami 1-4 or 0-5 for the Denver Game and are 2-6 and already out of the playoffs for the Buffalo and Washington Games which don’t sell out, Ross will not have another option.
I think it is a question of when TS gets fired not If. But then again miracles like the Wildcat happen, so one can never say for sure. But I was truly surprised when TS came back this year.
Yes
But we need to pray that Henne sucks this year. I want 23 touchdowns 40 picks, so Ross can do his business and hire a good HC (cowher, Gruden) and we draft luck.
by marshallrocks1 on Sep 26, 2011 9:24 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
we don't need Henne to suck in order to fire Sparano
we just can’t end up with a 10-6 season, but i doubt we are in danger of that at this point.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 26, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Love what Thomas Has Done
He is looking good and I have to say I am surprised, I just hope we don’t fire Tony mid season or anything because no good will come of it. I say we do things right and tough it out in till the off season. Anyways the Patriots got there asses handed to them on a silver platter which is beautiful. 3-0 with no big names. Football is amazing.
by phinphanatic6666 on Sep 26, 2011 9:16 AM EDT reply actions
Coaching....
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
remember back when Chan Gailey was our coach?
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 26, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
One thing I noticed with one of Bush's runs,....
It looked like he had enough speed to make the corner and turn it up field for a decent gain, but he made a cut gaining only a few yards. Granted the defender was close but I thought he had speed and lots of field in front of him. I said to myself,….why ?
Oh well,….it was a great trip, just a shitty outcome to the game. I remained hopefully until the very end. So what do I do today, spend more money on tickets to MNF in NYC. I love my team, and I love road trips,….so off to the Meadowlands we’ll go.
Marching to the beat of a different drummer since 1965...
by Ohiofinfan4life on Sep 26, 2011 9:17 AM EDT reply actions
You rock, sir!
Have a good trip and enjoy
by blackadder_650 on Sep 26, 2011 9:29 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I think we should keep Tony forever!
This year we could go 0-16, get the first pick in the draft and trade down to take some D-linemen. By keeping Tony forever, we assure ourselves of stupidity stability and very high draft picks that we can either trade away, or use for non skill-position players!
“This team will win!” What, the draft lottery?
Here, you forgot this...
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 26, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
The frustration of losing is different in Miami
Miami has a lot of talent in some much needed areas. There is no question we can be a good team. The frustration is we have longed played to our opponent, never kick the other team when they’re down, and we make silly mistakes. For those that don’t know what I mean when I say we play to our opponent, we hang with some of the really good teams, but then we’ll play down to teams we should beat. We often mirror the intensity and drive of the other team, which helps keep them in the game.
This was a game Miami easily could’ve been up 10-0 or 14-0 or even 20-7, but silly mistakes and the lack of a killer instinct prevents us from putting other teams away.
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
there no lnger are teams we should beat
We are the team other teams should beat. We are the basement!
by Don't hate on Yeremiah on Sep 26, 2011 1:16 PM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions
I say that as teams we're more talented then.
Despite their record, Miami still has more talent on their roster than many other teams.
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
where is that talent?
I don’t see it on the field and we haven’t for the past three to seven years. I think the Dolphins have a definite lack of talent and that is why they don’t win.
The talent is not there. There isn’t a real good player on offense (Long is overrated) and the defense only has Wake (and he’s starting to look undersized).
by Don't hate on Yeremiah on Sep 26, 2011 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I think you're just being overly critical of the players
Which is understandable given how they perform. Would you really prefer players such as Brian Robiskie starting instead Brandon Marshall? This team has talent, but we just aren’t putting it together. I happen to think there are some people that could do a lot with a roster. Tony just isn’t that person.
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
Way Different
Thats why I blame Sporano more than anyone else,.There has been like 6 games he has coached that remind me of last weeks game,.Where we get an early touchdown and then we stop being aggressive,.We should have beat Clevland by 25 pts,..Our team is MUCH more talented,.FIRE SPORANO NOW!,.Save the year while there is still time!
Fire TS
He is a terrible HC. Heres why;
1) He mixes and mashes his line so that it sucks.
2) He always tells the players their doing great when they’re not.
3) He plays for FGs
I could go on and on, but the point is we need to fire TS
by marshallrocks1 on Sep 26, 2011 9:19 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Lets just get the whole Parcells Taste out of Miami
This includes TS and Jeff Ireland. Player development is just not what it should be and the fins continually pass up on big name player for a safe pick in the draft. Granted I am on of the people who did agree with the drafting of Jake Long and Pouncey, but when is the last time the fins took a shot on a guy in the draft that had a huge up side and a lot of risk? And with the exception of Marshall when is the last time the fins made a splash in free agency (Bush not a big splash and neither is Dansby). For the redzone woes lets start with trying to run the ball with #33 D. Thomas most good teams try to pound the ball in the redzone and have success! The fins continually try to throw the ball, why? The short field makes it easier to cover and unless you are throwing a quick slant there is a very small chance that one will score a td on pass play in the redzone. The fins need to take a step back get rid of TS and JI and fix a team that is in my opinion easily fixable.
That was not a risk
This was not a risk just a stupid Pick everyone thought he was a 2nd or 3rd rounder. Cam Cameron even said in his press conference he will be a good PR and KR. You don’t pick these guys in the first round.
I like Dansby
I think that was a solid FA move
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 26, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
hey man your stealing my material ( scroll up, I said the same thing earlier) lol
Jimbo
by Dolphinator on Sep 26, 2011 12:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
ON AND ON
I know,.I think I have like 47 reasons now,..What are we waiting for???
TIME FOR MATT MOORE !!
insanity – doing the same thing over and over again and expecting
a different outcome. [ Albert Einstein ]
The miami dolphins has done Chad Henne over and over again
going on 3 yrs and expecting a different outcome?
“HELLO”,“HELLO”, " is anybody reading " …the reason this offense
cannot put TDs on the board (going on 3 yrs) has to do with the lack of
passing skills by Chad Henne in the red zone.
Chad henne is pretty good at accumulating yards up and down the field
with a high QB ratings, but when the offense enters the red zone, his decision
making and passing skills are incompetent!
“it is time to give Matt Moore his shot, i know he can get the job done.”
PS
You can put lipstick on a pig,guess what?…its still a pig!
You can put a new OC on chad henne,guess what?…its still chad henne!
I disagree
Chad Henne is one of the few players actually doing something out there.
by Mustang920 on Sep 26, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
+1
"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that." George Carlin
by DolphinNation on Sep 26, 2011 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Agreed and rec'd
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 26, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
AGREE
Chad Henne is playing some good football,..I always knew he wasnt to blame,.Its the coach,,.He can even be better than he is now if we ditch Sporano
Henne wasn't the problem
But Cam Wake hasn’t been winning with us and we’ve been using him too. Should we dump him as well? Start IAF next week? If you think starting Moore will help us, I beg to differ.
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
I agree 100%
Henne just doesn’t have what it takes to score points. The game is about scoring points – not moving the ball to the red zone in a workman like manner. If you don’t get the ball in the end zone you lose. Plain and simple.
Why NOT try something new?
by Don't hate on Yeremiah on Sep 26, 2011 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
So I have not been a huge Henne supporter, but I try to keep an open mind
Through these first three games, Henne has not been the reason the team has lost. He actually has improved so far over his performance last season and I am beginning to suspect the the OC was a bigger problem last year than QB.
If Henne continues to improve, he could be a solid QB.
That being said, I was pissed that the Fins did not DO what they said they were going to DO in the offseason – bring in competition at the position. I was not a big Orton fan, but I was majorly disappointed that they did not grab Mallett in the draft when they had the chance.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 26, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
I wanted Mallett too. Is it possible that the team is playing bad because Henne is the QB and not because Henne is a bad QB ? Like they don’t want him to succeed. It seems like some players make uncharacteristic plays at the worst possible times.
Preference
I would prefer to have a center for the next 10 yrs,.Chad is playing better than ever and ourr defense is playing worse than ever,.and our coach is a bufoon!
I don't see the Henne improvement
How is the offensive play better than last year? Because they scored 16 points this year against the Browns instead of 10??
This is not the improvement I was hoping for.
by Don't hate on Yeremiah on Sep 26, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Watch Henne play
forget the # of points or whether the WR catches the ball.
- He is much more decisive than last season. This shows up in his ability to find the single coverage, make play calls at the line, and tuck the ball and run when the opportunity is there.
- He is showing confidence in his arm. He throws the ball with more zip – less tentatively than last year. He is more often putting the ball where only his guy can make a play on it.
- He is showing more confidence in Marshall. How many times last season did we all scream “Just put the ball up and let Marshall go get it!”. Marshall was blanketed by Haden yesterday, but generally Henne has been doing just that with Marshall.
- He is checking down less often than last season His yds/attempt is up, as is his yds/completion. That alone say he is checking down less often, in case you aren’t noticing the difference during the game (personally, I have noticed it myself when watching the games).
- He is showing more emotion – getting fired up. This is HUGE because it translates into his ability to inspire and lead his team mates.
I am not saying Henne is “the guy” but it is silly to say that he is not improving, because he clearly is. Whether that continues through the season – who knows? But if it does, he could actually end up being quite good.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 26, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Agree 200% LCCF
Damn the sheriff, Bring on MARSHALL LAW
by fin4three5yrs on Sep 26, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
thanks man!
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 26, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Rec'd good buddy....
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thanks bro
u know it was hard to write this one… ;^)
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 26, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
where does the blame lie?
Its the defence`s fault……..no its Chad Henne`s fault……..no it not its the head coach`s fault….no its not its the personnel dept`s fault……..no its the owner`s fault etc etc There is no definitive answer, fixing one part will not cure all the other ills.
Why are we regressing when other teams are stepping forward? Lets look at the Bills and the Lions. The Lions have built a team around a QB, and then added a stout front defence and some weapons in Best, and complimentary wide receivers to Calvin Johnson….yes there are some wekanesses but they are going places! The Bills- no superstar QB , no superstar wide receivers (lee Evans has gone if he ever was a superstar) and no great defence, yet somehow they are winning and in style! Something,has just gelled together for them.
The bottom line is their is no `one way only approach to success` but clearly its not happening in Miami……is Marshall divisive? Should Harline be the NO1 rec? HAs Bess regressed? why Bush not Sproles? Why is Merling still around? Why did we not go after a safety in FA? WHy no sacks from Dansby or Burnett? Why no sacks……? Is Misi on the roster still? What hold has Columbo got on the front office? Why are we the only team that does `t understand the role of the tight end in 2011 (as opposed to 1996)?……and so on
by Christopher Weetman on Sep 26, 2011 9:49 AM EDT reply actions
i feel your pain
and i agree with most of your points.
I especially liked this one:
Why are we the only team that does `t understand the role of the tight end in 2011 (as opposed to 1996)?
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 26, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice post left
Since Cam Cam I always tried to look at the positives each player was doing to keep myself going. After 5 years of telling myself “rebuilding” and “look at how well this player is playing” I’m tired of it.
Miami Dolphins, you have the talent. JUST F*CKIN WIN.
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by Neo on Sep 26, 2011 9:52 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
LOL
Rec’d!
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 26, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
pasker 720 has a point
yes, when was the last time we took a risk….oh yes we wasted a second round pick on some undersized QB …….but apart from that? The TUna had a blueprint which was effective to a point…..the point being that size isn`t everything (as my wife comments) The o line has to be big- really- that won`t stop speed rushers- LB` s have to be big_ really does that help us cover tight ends? I would love us to have taken Kaepernick and Young with our first two picks last year…both a bit of a risk but hey- upside!
by Christopher Weetman on Sep 26, 2011 10:10 AM EDT reply actions
Good post LCFF
I’m with everyone else in saying that I’m frustrated, and have been for quite some time. The facts are these – this team has no heart, and that begins and ends with the Head Coach. If the rumors are true about Dabbol and TS having a shouting match because the OC wants to open it up and the HC wants to keep it ultra-conservative, there’s a problem. Funny how our offense looks great when we’re behind in a game, but looks tentative when ahead. Open your eyes, Mr. Ross…for the sake of your fans…just take a step back and look at what you have currently. Are you happy with the team’s performance this season, last season, and the season before that? If you are, you can sell the team and find a different business venture, because your fans are slowly, but surely, dwindling (see attendance).
We need a change at Head Coach and GM. I think it’s safe to say that they’ve proven to be worthless over their time in Miami. Ireland has come up with some good moves, but all in all, I’d give him a mediocre grade as GM, at best. Sporano, on the other hand…there isn’t a grade for how awful of a Head Coach, especially an in-game coach, on the grading scale.
Time for a change, and I’m fine with Mike Nolan having the rest of the year to show the organization/fans if he’s the right guy or not. Hell, it can’t get any worse.
If Nolan isn’t the guy, then I’m sure Cowher’s phone will be ringing.
"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that." George Carlin
I can not argue with this
=)
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 26, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Why not Moore
Shouldn’t we throw the backup QB in there and see if he can bring a spark? Wouldn’t it behoove Sparano to try something/everything to turn this around. I’ve watched for three straight years now with virtually ZERO change to how he coaches and NFL game.
How’s that working Tony? Terrible. Try something new. Try everything new. You have nothing to lose at this juncture because you’ve already lost your job. 8-8 and you won’t be coming back.
Try something!!!!
by Don't hate on Yeremiah on Sep 26, 2011 10:20 AM EDT reply actions
Why not Moore?
Well, simply stated – Henne is NOT the problem. He’s played above expectations so far this season. I’m not going to mistaken him for Tom Brady anytime soon, but all in all, he’s played better than average.
"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that." George Carlin
by DolphinNation on Sep 26, 2011 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
This... Henne is not the problem
He put the Balls in right position, but the receivers are having critical drop pases, dont sop a lot, but drop in critical moments…
Henne has 3 Ints:
1 – a Hailmary last play pass in first game…
2 – causes by a hit, in bad OL coverage
3 – the most gulty int, but he put the pass in the place where Marshall can get it in a vertical jump… if the pass go lower, the DL could be cut (if see the repetition one defense hand almost touch the ball) he meybe could look other receiver…
He dosn’t make to much bad throws… he is the lest gulty in all the losses…
I have a LOT MORE trouble with Bush… he looks very timid… and with this fumble.. and almost a second.
^^^This
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 26, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
2 out of 3 picks
were when he had NO CHOICE but to force a throw at the end of the game.
You don’t throw it away on 4th down… you put it up there and hope your guy makes a play.
Before the final play yesterday, Henne’s QB rating was around 128 or so…
I don’t think he’s the real problem here.
His QB rating is 48 in the 4th quarter
with the ball, one timeout, and only about 10-15 yards needed, he goes 0-4 with a pick.. Meanwhile, on the other side, colt mccoy, needing the full 80 yards and no less than atd, goes 80 yards for a td…
Thats not a problem?
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by Little Nicky 21 on Sep 27, 2011 10:26 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Agreed and rec'd
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 26, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
IF Dabol and Sporano didn`t have a bust up over playcalling, why did Henne throw for 190+ yards in first half and 60+ in second half…………sounds like they did…pound and grind , keep in front make them winit………oooops they did !
by Christopher Weetman on Sep 26, 2011 10:23 AM EDT reply actions
Why not Moore?
But Henne has no touch throws in the red zone? Zip, zip zip…………
by Christopher Weetman on Sep 26, 2011 10:25 AM EDT reply actions
i think this is play calling.
i see things open, but in the red zone there is less time to react, so on timing plays like a fade, if the play is called wrong it just doesn’t work.
IMO
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 26, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
One weird thing to me about our red zone play calling...
is that we have success with the power running game between the 20s, then, in the red zone, we completely give up on it and try the short passing game in the one area of the field where it’s least successful, because the defense has the least depth of field to cover. That seems completely ass-backwards, to me.
I also don’t like the pass plays we call in the end zone, but that’s another matter.
Chad Henne took the Lindbergh baby!
I was reading Pro Football Talk this morning
(sorry…don’t have a link right now) and they said that in order to lure Cowher, Miami might have to get the #1 pick, because Cowher is rumored to want a good QB situation for his next HC position. I could see Cowher coming here if we had the ability to acquire Luck,or even Landry Jones, for that matter.
"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that." George Carlin
HEY LCFF
I WILL AT THE GAME TOO, WE SHOULD TALE GATE, LET ME KNOW!! CAN’T WAIT, THIS IS WHERE MIAMI NEEDS TO SHOW UP AND GET THE WIN BABY!
IM HUNGRY, FEED THE WOLF
by dolfan702 on Sep 26, 2011 10:28 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I Will
Be At the game*
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by dolfan702 on Sep 26, 2011 10:37 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Don't do it! He's a bad influence.... lol
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"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
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how old r u?
;^)
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 26, 2011 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
lmao!!
lmao!!
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
Lol...
I’m 23, my cousins 31 this will be or 4th miami game, we went to arizona in 08, san diego in 09, miami in 10. Now this game, let tailgate before the win
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by dolfan702 on Sep 27, 2011 1:43 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
okay! As long as you are not some 16yr old trying to punk beer
;^)
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 27, 2011 3:05 AM EDT up reply actions
... of course if he was 16 *and* female; that's another story... lol
lol
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
Amazing to think...
…the season is over after 3 games. I don’t remember packing it in this early before. I’ll still be in my seat when they’re home but I’m guessing the tailgates will be better than the games
We're 0-3, and the BIlls are 3-0...
Never saw THAT coming….
I’m cranky that we’re 3-0…but I’m not sure what we can do to turn this around..I don’t think the season is a total wrote-off yet…I mean the Colts are also 0-3…no one saw that coming either. I think it comes down to focus…it’s that one missed hit…that one almost pass…people need to keep their heads in the game. Henne’s been a brighter light this season than a lot are giving him credit for…I think the players around him are letting him down. I’d like to see him step up, bitchslap a few of them in the locker room, and pull this team out of this funk of ‘almost-wins’.
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3-0
Teams that are 3-0… Green Bay, no surprise… Detroit, not earth-shattering, but an eyebrow raiser for sure… Buffalo, umm what??
The Bills certainly have looked good so far, but is this a story of the league just needing a few weeks to catch up with them, or are they that good… I mean it’s Chan Gailey at the helm, not some up and comer running some fancy new scheme. We’ll see on that one…
As far Henne goes— he has improved greatly this year, but he still shares the blame for our Red Zone issues. It’s the QB’s job to get the team in end zone, and he just hasn’t gotten it done. I’m not calling for his head- he’s played well enough to stay our starter, but leaders lead when the pressure is on, and that’s what the Dolphins need on at the QB spot: a leader. Haven’t seen it out of Chad yet, but we’ll see how he progresses or not.
by NumberSeven on Sep 26, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
i wish Chan Gailey were steering our ship
;^)
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 26, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL
how would that be a bad thing, relative to where things are at today? ;^)
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 26, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Looks like Sporano is safe, this week...
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/26/report-sparano-100-percent-safe-for-now/
"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that." George Carlin
... the bye-week then....
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
0-3
I can’t see the game… only can follow by internet, and see the highlights in the other games… but when see the last Browns drive and the last TD… I don’t understand why the defense cant stop them not in this last play, they can stop the Brown in the previus snaps… but like other person say in other post, I dont see at this moment a Player with the heart and leadership of Thomas and Taylor (not this version of almost retaired Taylor, a Taylor in his best shape some years ago), the offense play well, but in the most critical moments (last drive) again the droped passes apears… Henne play well… in the last pass he thinks Marshall do a vertical jump to get the pass, but Marshall didn’t do that…
I fell a lot disapointed… when Sparano arrives, some chemistry in the team are comming… but in 2010 seasson something happends… and this chemistry starts to go… with this chemystry teh heart and pasion of some players starts to go down to…
It’s just a game… but a passionate game for me… I be a PhinFan since I a little boy (here in Mexico the main sport is the Soccer, but in my home always was a preference for Football, and my father say when I see my first game of the Miami Dolphins, around 1975-76 when I have 3 or 4 years old, I say the Miami Dolphins was my Team, and this never change since this day) I dont plan to change the team… but feel hard pain when see this kind of losses… and more when I know they have the abilities to play better than that…
Hope the season finish at least 8-8… but let’s gone a see how evolves the season.
Each week I get increasingly fustrated with this team...
not only is it bad enough that we are 0-3, but going into this week the Browns were favored to beat us. Think about that, the Browns have been terrible and are considered better than us around the league. I hate to say this but, our season is basically finished. We no longer have even a fools chance at the playoffs and honestly, what would be the point of another 7 win season (if we could get that many). As a fan it pains me to say this, but I would rather see the team get to worst record than end up with 5-7 wins. I look at what the Pats and Colts have enjoyed over the last 10 years and say to myself, “IMO, being the worst team this year and getting Luck is well worth it due to the 10 year run we could have a chance at”. I have not been one of those fans saying “suck for Luck”, but at this point I can certainly see the appeal and have come to agree with those people. Again, I want to reitterate how painful it is for me to say this, but as of this moment, I have joined the ranks of those saying “Suck for Luck”…
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Miss the misery.
Need a reason for a change.
Need a reason to explain.
So turn it on again.
Don't change your mind.
You're wasting light.
i mentioned that above
the rookie wall looms large =)
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 26, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Good post. Rec'd
In reading these comments, and melding them a bit with my own thoughts, I have got to wonder about these coaches. What are they seeing? Because, we must be seeing something differently from a fan standpoint or something.
Wilson looked really good out there yesterday. Why isn’t he playing regularly? Thomas was the big bitch they all had during the Preseason: “too timid”, “not ready”, “dancing around in the backfield”, “too stubborn to accept the caoching points”…….I heard about how rough this kid is, and, to me, he looks like an effing natural out there. Colombo still looks like complete hell to me, but they insist “he’s fine”. Carey is SLOW, and keeps getting hurt. Yet, they say he’s fine, too.
AND THESE RED ZONE CALLS ARE GARBAGE! Quit throwing the same pass that never works OVER and OVER.
These are good enough players. They just need more leadership. And, somebody needs to dig DEEP in the cupboard, and dust off they’re eye for talent. Because, our coaches and management team DON’T HAVE ONE! I’m just a fan. I can’t do shit, but complain and/or cheer for them to improve.
But, I’m not blind. I can see that talents are being misused out there, and that this team is NOT properly prepared to take on pro football teams.
As far as players go, these players ARE NOT giving their all. And they are not playing their hearts out for this coach. Hell, I really like the guy, but something is amiss…..and it’s gotta be fixed. Like NOW. It can be fixed. NOW.
I don’t give a quarter damn about Andrew Luck or Bill Cowher or ESPECIALLY Jon Gruden (I think he’s a little peckerhead). But, I do care about the MIAMI DOLPHINS, and they need to change. So, I have come up with a new mottto for this team:
WHATEVER IT TAKES!
Just do whatever it takes to fix this. Fire ANYBODY who is not giving it everything they’ve got, na dthen some. Work them harder! Make a curfew for home and away games. Put some boots in some asses and make this machine run.
"Five yards is my life!" - Don Shula
you know, i'm glad i am not the only one seeing it
i didn’t want to specifically call out the coaches (again!), but when you look at all the individual failures on the field, you naturally end up at the same explanation.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 26, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
at the game
Hey LCFF,
I’m going to be at the game as well. The wife and I are driving in from AZ. Get in touch with me and I’ll buy ya a beer.
lets all tailgate!!!
would be awesome to hang out with some fin fans!!
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by dolfan702 on Sep 26, 2011 12:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
great idea!
figure out some place to meet up and let me know what time and I will come down early and join you guys (and gals)
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 26, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
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by dolfan702 on Sep 27, 2011 1:44 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i'm not on facebook, but i'll email you
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 27, 2011 3:05 AM EDT up reply actions
now you get in touch with doughrama
and figure out where we are going to meet =)
-LCFF
DotJPBW
(under protest)
by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 27, 2011 3:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Now we're gonna know how ugly you *really* are....
LOL
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"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
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if its a game of inches - the Dolphins are sporting a pinky schlong
YAY!!!
FEED THE WOLF – FREE IGOR
by scrappy the wildcat on Sep 26, 2011 2:21 PM EDT reply actions
They did free Igor
And he got penalized for landing on McCoy’s head…
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
Everyone might as well just knock off defending chad henne
and hell, half the players on this team as well
this team simply isnt good right now and is gonna get blown the hell up sooner rather than later…..and when it does, a good chunk of players will be gone, including Chad Henne
New regimes clean house and they always find a new quarterback
With the 15th pick, the Dolphins select, John Stamos....'s brother!
"F*** SUNSHINE AND RAINBOWS" -Nicky's reaction to the Stamos selection
Captain of the "U.S.S. Andrew Luck"; Flagship of the LuckFleet
Please, call me Bacon
oh and great writeup as always lefty
With the 15th pick, the Dolphins select, John Stamos....'s brother!
"F*** SUNSHINE AND RAINBOWS" -Nicky's reaction to the Stamos selection
Captain of the "U.S.S. Andrew Luck"; Flagship of the LuckFleet
Please, call me Bacon
for once bacon, we are coming down on different sides of the fence =)
i am not a pro-Henne guy, but I DO think he is doing enough to make the team successful with the right support from the rest of the team, and the correct play calling.
Last season I was calling for giving Thigpen an extended shot to see what he could do. But this season I see enough improvement in Henne to suggest that he COULD be “the guy” to take the team to the playoffs if the rest of the team would step up and play like they are hungry.
However, it was extremely foolish for the team to not draft a developmental guy like Mallett to be grooming to take over if Henne fails. And in ANY event, the team should invest a high pick in a QB next season. Your upside is that you double down on your chance to get that franchise guy, and your downside would be the New England Syndrome. In other words, you get lucky and end up with two talented QBs and trade one to another team (like the Dolphins) for 16 future first round draft picks….
;^)
-LCFF
DotJPBW
(under protest)
by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 26, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Would be nice
however all I see from Henne is benefiting currently from not having an 80 year old man with outdated ideas telling him what to do
He still struggles with his touch, his accuracy and even though he was supposedly stepped up as the “leader” over this summer with running the workouts, I havent seen much of a diff. Sure overall his stats look better than they have but his completion percentage still isnt good and he continues to falter in the red zone and in crunch time. For instance on two of the 4 final plays we had at the end he completely overlooked a wide open reggie bush twice. Not only that but his pocket awareness continues to have issues as he holds onto the ball longer than he should rather than letting his wideouts try to make plays and rolls out of the pocket far too early at times. Case in point, on one particular play yesterday he held, held and then tried to run forward straight into a defender who was 2 feet from him where he had a nice big hole a few feet to his left to run through had he been paying attention and noticed Carey blocking to the guy to his right and opening up said hole. Not to mention that pick at the end was not only a bad play call, but just an awful throw from Henne.
Hes not a killer, simple as that. He may be able to move the offense by dumping it underneath or throwing curls and corner routes but he just cant get it done time and again when we need him the most. Our offensive line is middle of the road right now in pass blocking and not nearly as bad as philly, pitt, baltimore, atlanta, gb and others who have obviously worse lines yet somehow are still able to score more points than us and win some games.
He is joined with this coaching staff in a playing it safe mentality which I dont see him ever breaking free from. Afterall, he was the EXACT same way in his 4 years at Michigan….good stats, lots of talent around him and they always won some games, but could never get over the top and much of it was due to Henne’s inability to finish.
Ive seen all I need from him personally and am ready for an entire overhaul from Ireland down to half of our special teams. And like I said, once Sparano and Co. are officially given the ax, the new bosses will definitly be using our top pick on one of the three Blue Chip QB’s coming out. Even if Henne sticks with us through all that, his job will be lost for sure by ’13 when hes 28 and we have a young stud at 23 or 22 who has a bright future ahead of him.
With the 15th pick, the Dolphins select, John Stamos....'s brother!
"F*** SUNSHINE AND RAINBOWS" -Nicky's reaction to the Stamos selection
Captain of the "U.S.S. Andrew Luck"; Flagship of the LuckFleet
Please, call me Bacon
A summary of Bacon's thoughts
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
LOL
except for one thing…
it should say “Please, call me -Captain Benjamin Bacon of the Flagship, Andrew Luck”
lol
With the 15th pick, the Dolphins select, John Stamos....'s brother!
"F*** SUNSHINE AND RAINBOWS" -Nicky's reaction to the Stamos selection
Captain of the "U.S.S. Andrew Luck"; Flagship of the LuckFleet
Please, call me Bacon
Damn it! you escaped to the circus again!
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
Awesome post LCFF
Really summed up yesterdays game( for lack of better word) well & our continuing struggle as too. All we can do is hope or pray for change of some sort in many places of our team & org cause none of us fans can really do much more. I just never thought this yr Henne would look as good as he has & our D look as bad as it has.
by WvFinsFan1 on Sep 26, 2011 2:29 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
^^^THIS - THIS - THIS!!!
I just never thought this yr Henne would look as good as he has & our D look as bad as it has.
^^^This!
and thanks for the kind words. =)
-LCFF
DotJPBW
(under protest)
by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 26, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
NEVER THOUGHT
Yeah,.the only constant has been Sporano,.Always horrible,..FIRE HIM before i have to get a firearm!
Its all semantics with Henne
He’s certainly not at fault for the losses, but he isn’t helping us win either. He’s not playing good enough to win games, he’s playing good enough that, if the rest of the team played well, we could win. And thats not gonna cut it. He’s a mediocre, limited, inconsistent quarterback, and that hasn’t changed in three years. Time to call a spade a spade, he’s not a franchise guy and he’s not a top 15 qb. What he is a guy who could probably win with the 2000 ravens or 2002 bucs,a team that is pretty damn difficult to build and most likely won’t be successful in this NFL.
You need a good QB if you want to consistently compete for championships, and we don’t have that guy. Henne isn’t that guy, and I don’t believe he ever will be that guy. The stats will say he’s having a good year.. the reality is he is still failing on third downs, in the red zone, and in the fourth quarter. Nothing new. New GM, new coaches, new QB. Because what we have now isn’t good enough to get this team where every single fan wants it to be..
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Fire. Everyone.
by Little Nicky 21 on Sep 26, 2011 4:43 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
i disagree with you nicky.
Henne has shown enough improvement to warrant an evaluation of his talent/ability after the season. The final judgment should be based on how much he continues to grown into the position over the coarse of the year.
In any event, we should draft another QB to develop with a high draft pick next season – possibly even a first rounder.
IMO
-LCFF
DotJPBW
(under protest)
by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 26, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Got the feelin that Peyton and Luck will be together next season, LCCF.
Could Indy repeat having a cornerstone qb in the next era?
Damn the sheriff, Bring on MARSHALL LAW
by fin4three5yrs on Sep 26, 2011 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions
geez I hope not
With the 15th pick, the Dolphins select, John Stamos....'s brother!
"F*** SUNSHINE AND RAINBOWS" -Nicky's reaction to the Stamos selection
Captain of the "U.S.S. Andrew Luck"; Flagship of the LuckFleet
Please, call me Bacon
I don't see the improvement
I see the same inconsistencies, along with better play calling. For instance, his lone TD in yesterday’s game was a beautifully designed screen pass off of a fake end around, but when we asked him to drop back, make a read, and make a good throw into the end zone for a TD, he failed.
He made a lot of good throws (the one Hartline toe-tapped on the sideline, the very first one to Marshall vs good coverage), but he also made bad throws (the final throw of the game to Marshall, the throw on 3rd down that missed Marshall by a good margin on a comeback at the sticks..). And in critical situations (3rd downs, red zone, 4th quarter) he was poor. He failed to convert on 3rd downs (we were 4 of 13) and once again, same as last season, consistently threw the ball short of the sticks or missed open guys downfield. I don’t see a different QB, I see the same QB playing in a better offense.
Phinsider HOF C/O 2009
Winner of Six Career Matty Awards
Vice Grand Poobah of the LuckFleet
Fire. Everyone.
by Little Nicky 21 on Sep 26, 2011 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree.
Damn the sheriff, Bring on MARSHALL LAW
by fin4three5yrs on Sep 26, 2011 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Hes not a killer
He proved it at Michigan and hes proving it here with every passing game.
The fact that we got 30 free yards and needed just a first down to have a chance to win, and yet he came up very short….is pretty damning imo
With the 15th pick, the Dolphins select, John Stamos....'s brother!
"F*** SUNSHINE AND RAINBOWS" -Nicky's reaction to the Stamos selection
Captain of the "U.S.S. Andrew Luck"; Flagship of the LuckFleet
Please, call me Bacon
Definitly agree with your second part
cant say Henne wont and doesnt deserve a shot; he probably will
However there’s no way he beats out the likes of Landry Jones or my boy Andrew Luck in the long run if we should be lucky enough to get one of them
With the 15th pick, the Dolphins select, John Stamos....'s brother!
"F*** SUNSHINE AND RAINBOWS" -Nicky's reaction to the Stamos selection
Captain of the "U.S.S. Andrew Luck"; Flagship of the LuckFleet
Please, call me Bacon
Keep playing like we are playing, we are bound to hit the lotto.
Damn the sheriff, Bring on MARSHALL LAW
by fin4three5yrs on Sep 26, 2011 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
i hope so
im willing to take it on the chin this year for the long term well being of this franchise
I got through ’07 just fine, I can get through this s***fest too
With the 15th pick, the Dolphins select, John Stamos....'s brother!
"F*** SUNSHINE AND RAINBOWS" -Nicky's reaction to the Stamos selection
Captain of the "U.S.S. Andrew Luck"; Flagship of the LuckFleet
Please, call me Bacon
I just hope Ireland and Sparano don't use Henne for their failures
A new coach is needed right now to evaluate and alleviate all doubts.
Damn the sheriff, Bring on MARSHALL LAW
by fin4three5yrs on Sep 26, 2011 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
agreed
and at this point I dont see anything saving either of them
With the 15th pick, the Dolphins select, John Stamos....'s brother!
"F*** SUNSHINE AND RAINBOWS" -Nicky's reaction to the Stamos selection
Captain of the "U.S.S. Andrew Luck"; Flagship of the LuckFleet
Please, call me Bacon
I agree
If we get a decent headcoach and Henne doesnt play well,.Then i promise Ill stop saying that Henne is good,.but until we get a new coach,.I cant evaluate Henne properly
Too drastic right now to just give up on Henne
But a nice QB in the wings is much needed, as LCCF alluded to. Enhalen and Nicky, y’all are point on also, but still playcalling is suspect. However, if you want an example of a qb with the “it” factor, just compare Henne’s last drive with Colt McCoy’s. With more experience and better weapons, Henne is suppose to win that game hands down and only needed about 20 yds for a FG to do so.
Damn the sheriff, Bring on MARSHALL LAW
yeah we needed 10 to get into Deep DC range
20 for a good look. And we got zero. Part of that is play calling (I was screaming for a draw play because the Browns were playing deep sideline coverage, and we had a timeout and the ability to quickly spike the ball). Part of it was just bad play on Henne’s part. The first play was a short out route to Bess that Henne threw late and was broken up. The final play was a terrible pass high over the middle that was picked.
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Winner of Six Career Matty Awards
Vice Grand Poobah of the LuckFleet
Fire. Everyone.
by Little Nicky 21 on Sep 26, 2011 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Yelp, just don't think 2minutes to go and Henne don't mix. I think back to last year's
games against the Browns, Steelers, and Detroit. Kind of blamed the OC then, but now the truth is rearing its head.
Damn the sheriff, Bring on MARSHALL LAW
by fin4three5yrs on Sep 26, 2011 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
indeed
With the 15th pick, the Dolphins select, John Stamos....'s brother!
"F*** SUNSHINE AND RAINBOWS" -Nicky's reaction to the Stamos selection
Captain of the "U.S.S. Andrew Luck"; Flagship of the LuckFleet
Please, call me Bacon
yup
although, I haven’t been really impressed with Daboll either. Not sure why he continues to call pass plays to Thomas and inside runs to Bush.. it’s like he confuses the 2’s and 3’s…
Phinsider HOF C/O 2009
Winner of Six Career Matty Awards
Vice Grand Poobah of the LuckFleet
Fire. Everyone.
by Little Nicky 21 on Sep 26, 2011 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
^THIS
however Thomas is doing a better job in the passing game than I had thought he would
-LCFF
DotJPBW
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 26, 2011 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions
we should hire shawn spencer to solve it
-LCFF
DotJPBW
(under protest)
by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 27, 2011 3:08 AM EDT up reply actions
... or MaineFinFan....
LOL
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
not to mention like I pointed out earlier
he completely overlooked a wide open Bush on tow of the plays that wouldve either gotten a first down, or damn close
With the 15th pick, the Dolphins select, John Stamos....'s brother!
"F*** SUNSHINE AND RAINBOWS" -Nicky's reaction to the Stamos selection
Captain of the "U.S.S. Andrew Luck"; Flagship of the LuckFleet
Please, call me Bacon
*two
With the 15th pick, the Dolphins select, John Stamos....'s brother!
"F*** SUNSHINE AND RAINBOWS" -Nicky's reaction to the Stamos selection
Captain of the "U.S.S. Andrew Luck"; Flagship of the LuckFleet
Please, call me Bacon
Lost way before
We lost that game the minute after we scored our first touchdown,.Sporano kills our confidence,.Its a joke,.The end of the game should have been 31-7 with another coach,.we have alott better squad than them
i heart Henne
i think he’s part of the solution more so than the problem.
i know there will be many that disagree
by scrappy the wildcat on Sep 26, 2011 5:22 PM EDT reply actions
DC has limited range?
Um, what? I wonder how he hit four from 50+ last year, including that 60-yarder, then. The caliber of both the information and writing on some of the the things that make it to the front page here is disappointing.
Limited range last year vs this year? He's been losing testosterone weekly....
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"

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