Some Dolphins History & My Take On Why We Have Been Mediocre The Last Decade.
by E_Dove on Sep 22, 2011 8:02 PM EDT
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First and Foremost - Let me state that this is not a "hate" thread, nor a "Henne, Sparano, Ireland, etc, bashing" thread. This includes our history as a franchise, and my honest opnion on why we have been a mediocre franchise the last decade!
We were pretty much the last AFL Franchise to be made in 1966 (For a historical side note, we were the Miami Seahawks (1946) before they turned into the Baltimore Colts). For you Madden players, I'm sure you noticed that we weren't on the Anniversary AFL mode that was available to download. Like most expansion teams, we had a losing record for the first few years, but unlike most before, and nearly all since, this was about to change!
After only 4 seasons, in which we were a losing franchise, we got Don Shula to be our head coach, and lost our first round pick in 1970 to the Colts for him. But I’d say he was well worth it! We got a franchise QB, Bob Griese, a first round pick, and made the playoffs our first season under Shula! Then, unlike almost any "newer" franchise in history, we made the Super Bowl in our 6th season! We also won the Super Bowl going undefeated throughout our 7th season, and won it again in our 8th season as a franchise.
We only made the playoffs 2 more times during the 70’s, and would not appear in another Super Bowl untill 1982. That same year (1983 as we all know SB’s are played at the start of the new year), we drafted another franchise QB in the first round, by the name of Dan Marino. Marino’s 2nd season saw all kinds of records being made & broken, along with us going to another Super Bowl in 1984 (but we lost to the Redskins). So by then we had made 5 Super Bowls in 13 years with Shula as our HC. We would make it to the playoffs 5 more times under Shula, And he retired following the 1995 season. His all time record coaching the Dolphins for 26 seasons is 257-133-2.
Counting this year, we are now 125-126 since Don Shula retired following the 1995 season. Our record while Shula was the coach for 26 seasons is 257-133-2. Out of the 26 seasons he was our coach, we had ONLY 2 losing seasons! In the 16 years since he retired (counting this season) we are only 7 losses away from matching the number of losses we suffered during a 26 year span! This could happen this season (although, I hope not!).
Maybe all of the early success is haunting us. We were not used to losing, and never had to endure what the likes of the Buccaneers, Jaguars, Texans, etc, have really had to go through! Also, not drafting another franchise QB since 1983, has hurt us tremendously! Under all 7 coaches since Shula's depature, counting Interim Jim Bates, we have traded picks and used free agency, but have never "really" found our top 5-10 QB! You can’t put the blame on Shula, as when he retired, it was only Dan Marino's 12th year & Scott Mitchell proved to be a good back-up to Danny Boy.
Our favorite team, that we bleed Aqua & Orange for, has a history of being a winning franchise - not a "losing" or "mediocre" franchise that it is today. There will always be arguments about things like "you need an O-Line before getting a QB", "Believe in Chad Henne", etc. BUT if history in the NFL as a whole has taught us anything, it's that a franchise QB is needed to become a winning franchise. (Editors note: The only exception to this general rule that comes to mind is the 2000 Baltimore Ravens winning with Trent Dilfer - LCFF) And 90% of current franchise QBs are 1st rd picks! I hate to say it, or the name, but Tom Brady is the exception! Also, painfully, Drew Brees is one of the only other ones.
And we went from 1978 until 1996 without a 1,000 yard rusher, this proves that even before the league went so "pass happy", you dont need a super RB to get to the playoffs every year!
To be truly legit contenders again, we need a franchise QB!
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I will admit I started feeling ....not so good about the direction of the team
Even in the last couple of the Shula teams, maybe about the time Joe Robbie passed , there was a “waiting for the end” feeling. You just knew the end of a great coaching career was coming to an end. The uncertainty of what course the team may take was always there.
I won’t regurgitate what followed, we all know the recent history. Jimmie Johnson and Bill Parcells both had a decent start at a good team but did not stick around to finish the product. Dave Wannstadt never had much success as a head coach anywhere and as a GM was at best, bad.
I think with any organization, success or not; it starts at the top. Players and coaches can change but if there is leadership and commitment at the top end the rest will come around.
Thats my mini-rant.
"Never let the competition know what your thinking"
Feringi rule of acquisition #85
that is something that I didnt understand at the time
but fully understand it now! I was only in 11’th grade when Shula retired, and living in VA & a not so easy access to Dolphin news, I didnt understand what all was going wrong! I imagine, if we were like this during these internet days, ESPN would be all over us and would not have to worry about black-outs, and our not-so Home Field Advantage!
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Tis is true.
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by texascowpunk on Sep 22, 2011 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions
i can still picture him breaking McNeal's tackle
painful one there
by scrappy the wildcat on Sep 22, 2011 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions
he was their czonka
and yeah it was painful to watch
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by daytonadolfan on Sep 22, 2011 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions
38 frickin carries in the SB
that’s ridiculous
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You can never get enough Bush!
he was a bulldozer, not sure if any defense could have stuffed that guy !
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by daytonadolfan on Sep 22, 2011 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Didnt the Jags and Panthers
both make the conference championship in their second seasons? (jags/pats panthers/packers)
That’s not really enduring a lot of bad seasons to start off.
sorry, I may have forgot a few, but you see my general idea correct?
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wow Lefty, thanks for fixing this up for me!!
goes to show that some turds can be polished!!
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Ohh did you do it bro? I just seen LCFF in the "editors note". Whoever done it, thank you so much!
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ohh WOW!! Its on the front page!! Thank You!!
I really appreciate this!! I really do!! Thank You sooo much!
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No brother it was most likely Lefty.
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by texascowpunk on Sep 22, 2011 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
we had a franchise QB for years
and how many super bowl rings did he bring?
here kitty kitty kitty BANG!
our first one brought 2, along with the help of Earl Morrall
but I see what your saying about Marino. Still we were perrinal SB contenders, and made the playoffs more often than not, with a great HC & a franchise QB!
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I understand but Marino probably the best passer in history couldn't bring us a ring
I just don’t know what to think anymore if they just got us into the playoffs again I would be excited
here kitty kitty kitty BANG!
me too! I would be real happy!
just to be in contention to make the playoffs on a yearly basis would be great. We would probably get our home field advantage again once the fanbase started believing again!
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Top flight QB's keep teams in contention year in and year out
guys like Henne are the ones that are like a roller coaster
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Yep. Henne can be good and would make a great long term answer at backup but not ever going to be GREAT!
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by texascowpunk on Sep 22, 2011 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Truer words are rarely said
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ehh the blame imo lands squarely on the coaching staff
Taught him how to play scared,then expects him to play like someone hes not and has never been.
Give him a qb coach like the one they have in philly and hed be a lot more consistent. After hearing what the guy did with Vick when he got outta jail,i was hoping wed at least talk to him about the OC job.
Instead,we have the recievers coach trying to untrain him of all his deficiencies. And while hes doing better,its still not progressing like it should.
by dolphinfan4lyfe on Sep 23, 2011 1:06 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I would be open to it and yet I do not see that making him a top 5 guy.
I know that seems greedy but I want to be one of those 4 or 5 teams that knows it has a legit shot year in and year out because of the QB.
With Marino you always had that. Maybe we only got to the playoffs but with him back there we at least knew there was a possibility every year. I need that feeling again. We need this. Don’t you see. Don’t you understand!?!?!
Ok sorry I lost it a bit there but seriously………………………….
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by texascowpunk on Sep 23, 2011 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions
think about teams like the Lions, who have NEVER won or been to a Super Bowl
atleast we have been to 5, and have won 2! Thats more than most teams, and we are one of the youngest franchises besides Houston & Carolina
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Marino was unsupported
It is pretty absurd to blame Marino for the lack of Superbowls in his era. During the time he was in we typically had a mediocre defense (actually we have never had a great defense since Bill Arnsperger left) and we also never had a running game. We drafted many high round running backs but never got a great one (reflecting the fact that after Bobby Beathard left our scouting and draft quality was also no better than average). Marino got us to the playoffs year after year on his sheer ability but with no running backs and no defense to break serve it was hard to make it to a SB win against more talented teams. If we could have a young Marino back now, I’d take him in a minute over any QB in the game now including Brady or Manning.
If we could have a young Marino back now, I’d take him in a minute over any QB in the game now including Brady or Manning.
Amen! Just think of the terror he would be in today’s NFL with all the rules to protect the QB and the new way that the PI rules are applied.
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by texascowpunk on Sep 25, 2011 3:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Remember when we turned down Drew Brees?
Good thing we got Daunte Culpepper.
by HoosierPhinatic on Sep 22, 2011 9:42 PM EDT reply actions
sad thing, from what all I have read..
Brees really wanted to come here!
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thanks for bringing back the pain H P
lol, and I wanted to scream when we got culpepper, I was never a believer in him.
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by daytonadolfan on Sep 22, 2011 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Everyone that mentions that should have to suffer like a one week ban or a day alone with Alpha.
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by texascowpunk on Sep 22, 2011 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions
if you're alone with Alpha
hopefully lots of beer is included!
"I likem me some UDFAs"
You can never get enough Bush!
If you're alone with alpha, you've just been darted !! welcome to the basement.
you can buy escape plans from bacon lol
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by daytonadolfan on Sep 22, 2011 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
LMFAO "you've just been darted!!"
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by texascowpunk on Sep 22, 2011 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
AMEN dude
its about damn time we sink a first round pick into the most important position on the field
Were gonna keep strugglin till we find our guy, just like ever other franchise that makes the same mistake
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blah blah blah
I don’t see how our record since Shula has anything to do with anything. The NFL has grown since the 60’s, 70’s, and 80’s. Shula was great for his time but how would he do today? Why not compare the price of a coke today to one 30 years ago, same thing essentially but very different circumstances.
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by kevyfranchise on Sep 22, 2011 10:48 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
thats why its called- Dolphin History .. You never have anything nice to say, or even a good debate in any of my threads.
Why even read them?
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seriously, the morale of the whole story is;
Our winning history. A great HC & 2 franchise QBs have taken this team to greatness. Not what it is today. We need to take a shot on a franchise QB. The article is not about Shulas record, it is about our record since he retired, and our record without a franchise QB. Your entilted your own opnion, but I dont see why you take the time to comment on my stuff when you clearly didnt read it all the way through. If you were to actually write something, I would atleast give you a comment worth talking about or just not one at all if not worth my time.
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We need to take a shot on a franchise QB
Thats called hitting the nail on the head
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How is that hitting the nail on the head?
Drew Brees-Rd 2,Brad Johnson-Rd 9,Tom Brady-Rd 6,Kurt Warner-UNDRAFTED,Brett Favre-Rd 2,Mark Rypien-Rd 6,Joe Montana Rd-3…Do I need to keep going? Do you get the point?
I wasnt trying to be ugly,Im just stating
that a franchise QB doesnt have to be a 1st rd pick and I keep hearing a bunch of that.History proves,well maybe not Dolphins history that it isnt necessary.Meant to write all that in my 1st reply but forgot..I have adult A.D.D..My bad
I think your missing the bigger picture good sir.
I will post something in a few days after I have time to work on it.
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by texascowpunk on Sep 22, 2011 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry been working my rear off.
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by texascowpunk on Sep 25, 2011 3:19 AM EDT up reply actions
You realize your list is the tiny minority right?
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Let it go. Your going to ruin my post.
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by texascowpunk on Sep 23, 2011 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions
LOL
you know Im the biggest preacher of first round QB’s on this site and have done my homework many a time…. just cant help myself
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"F*** SUNSHINE AND RAINBOWS" -Nicky's reaction to the Stamos selection
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I know.
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by texascowpunk on Sep 23, 2011 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Geuss you didnt get the point,
cuz I said I could keep going…Tiny minority? Dont exxagerate to prove your point..That tiny list there is only going back 20 years and if you add up the multiple SB’s a few of them there had is about equal to half of the SBs in the last 20 years..So how is that a tiny minority?
Well then please, keep going
If you’d like I can throw out the list that includes first rounders and not to be a dick but that list is alot bigger than yours
With the 15th pick, the Dolphins select, John Stamos....'s brother!
"F*** SUNSHINE AND RAINBOWS" -Nicky's reaction to the Stamos selection
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its really not much longer..
how do you think I came up with that list? I may sound like a numbnut on here but Im not close..LOL
I will say this Enhalen
thats with a Management with eye for talent..The situation we are in right now with ours,we probably need a 1st overall pick at QB..
lol totally agree
thats why everyone needs to be fired and someone who has that eye needs to be brought it
Lets just hope moneybags Ross doesnt mind throwing piles of cash at the guy we need (which I dont think will be an issue)
With the 15th pick, the Dolphins select, John Stamos....'s brother!
"F*** SUNSHINE AND RAINBOWS" -Nicky's reaction to the Stamos selection
Captain of the "U.S.S. Andrew Luck"; Flagship of the LuckFleet
Please, call me Bacon
If I ever sound like a dick its just cuz Im excited and dont realize how its coming out in the moment..lol
I totally did the math bro..In 45 SBs,25 Qbs in them were 1st rounders & 20 of them were not.All Im saying is the list of 1st rounders is not that much longer..Bart Starr(Rd 17),Johnny Unitas(Rd 9),Roger Staubach(Round 10).In recent history(last 5or6 yrs) there have been more 1st rounders in the SB but its pretty much 50/50 ratio from there back…My point is,our management cant draft a DE in the 1st round and get it right..How do we know they will get it right on a QB? My other point is,we had Marino and never won a superbowl either so I surely dont think this regime could win a championship even with the number one pick.That sux for you and me..
oh im the same way dude for sure
and as far as the numbers I get ya on the SB thing. But just look at that. Over HALF of them were first rounders and the rest were from every other round and include undrafted guys. Im not sitting here saying you cant get your guy past the first round, obviously you can; but the BEST place and most common place to find one is indeed the first round. If you take it a step farther and look at the top 100 passers of all time (regardless of including current players or not) the majority are first rounders….and it makes sense because guys go early because of the talent they possess. First round graded guys arent NOT talented, its just wether or not they realize that talent
And I totally agree about this regime…I dont trust them to make any right decisions and I certaintly dont want this upcoming draft in their hands, especially considering how many quality QB’s are coming out. Theyve missed alot more than theyve hit and I dont want them to get their greasy paws on any pick we’ll have
Case in point, these guys need to go and asap because I believe that they are hurting our franchise even more with each passing day with the culture and attitude they bring with them
Lastly…poor Marino. Guy did everything he could year in and year out, but that’s what happens when you expect one player to carry everything *cough Colts *cough. This is why we need better coaches. An awesome engine is no good if the driver is drunk of his ass and cant see straight
With the 15th pick, the Dolphins select, John Stamos....'s brother!
"F*** SUNSHINE AND RAINBOWS" -Nicky's reaction to the Stamos selection
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Please, call me Bacon
Bacon already submitted his application for the HC position.
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
Oh that is super fail on the sign...
I removed all that junk on the original! Stupid photobucket…
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
LOL
With the 15th pick, the Dolphins select, John Stamos....'s brother!
"F*** SUNSHINE AND RAINBOWS" -Nicky's reaction to the Stamos selection
Captain of the "U.S.S. Andrew Luck"; Flagship of the LuckFleet
Please, call me Bacon
One more time! Bacon's application for the job!
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
lol i dont see a dif between the two
With the 15th pick, the Dolphins select, John Stamos....'s brother!
"F*** SUNSHINE AND RAINBOWS" -Nicky's reaction to the Stamos selection
Captain of the "U.S.S. Andrew Luck"; Flagship of the LuckFleet
Please, call me Bacon
LOL Nor do I. What am I missing?
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by texascowpunk on Sep 24, 2011 3:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Good
The first one changed. It initially had a different sign I didn’t want.
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
Probably the same url but you changed the
pic so the new one showed up.
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by texascowpunk on Sep 24, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
yes, please keep going
i think you are just about out…. ;^)
-LCFF
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(under protest)
by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 23, 2011 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions
LOL
With the 15th pick, the Dolphins select, John Stamos....'s brother!
"F*** SUNSHINE AND RAINBOWS" -Nicky's reaction to the Stamos selection
Captain of the "U.S.S. Andrew Luck"; Flagship of the LuckFleet
Please, call me Bacon
excuse me?
How on earth does brad johnson get mentioned following drew brees and preceeding tom brady?
That didn’t just happen
by jbl0ck on Sep 23, 2011 8:25 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Its a list of QBS that werent drafted in RD 1 that won SBS
nothing more..The order was random,my bad..
Chasing the ghost of Marino isn’t going to get us anywhere. That is the reason why qb’s fail in this town.
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by kevyfranchise on Sep 23, 2011 2:18 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
in a nice tone
Chasing the ghost of Marino isn’t going to get us anywhere. That is the reason why qb’s fail in this town.
Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is perhaps, the end of the beginning.
Winston Churchill
Never give in, never give in, never; never; never- in nothing, great or small, large or petty- never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense
Winston Churchill
by kevyfranchise on Sep 23, 2011 2:19 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Well sure. If we try and hold everyone to his exact standard then they are all sure to fail.
I for one do not need the next Marino as much as a QB and a system that will give us the same level of success or in fact even more success.
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by texascowpunk on Sep 23, 2011 2:26 AM EDT up reply actions
bingo
im lookin for a guy who while hes playing can be considered top 10 and noone will laugh
With the 15th pick, the Dolphins select, John Stamos....'s brother!
"F*** SUNSHINE AND RAINBOWS" -Nicky's reaction to the Stamos selection
Captain of the "U.S.S. Andrew Luck"; Flagship of the LuckFleet
Please, call me Bacon
Don't let it bother you E_Dove. There always has to be one guy like that in ever post.
I appreciate the stories about the history of the team even when I can remember much of it. Good stuff bro!
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by texascowpunk on Sep 22, 2011 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
No need to be rude towards another members post unless thats just your "thing"!
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by texascowpunk on Sep 22, 2011 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Can I just point out that two other QBs who weren't first round picks (Strock-5th and Woodley-8th) combined to take us to a super bowl?
You made a great point that a great HC and a franchise QB can make a franchise a powerhouse but have you noticed throughout NFL history how great HCs have managed to keep winning even with different QBs? How about Matt Cassell? Franchise-caliber QB in New England but an inconsistent, average Qb in KC. I just feel like you are giving way too little credit to the weight the HC has on a teams success or lack there of.
NY Jets = NFL's Chicago Cubs
There's a fine line between hopeful and desperate. Just look @ Jets fans.
yes I have sir, and great reply!
Thats kind of my whole story line. Shula had 2 franchise QB’s (also we drafted Joe Theisman) & adjusted to keep us in the hunt every year! If you have a great HC & a franchise QB, it is a tandem that last for 10-20 years or better! Not “musical coaches” like we have been playing each year. 16’th year since Shula retired & we are on coach 7, and I believe if Ross could have made a deal, we would be on 8! Thats an average of 2 seasons per HC. We can never win constanly like that! & Most of my credit is directed towards our HF coach, but also our franchise QB’s. Its about a 60/40 write up.
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Shula wuz
the SHIT!! at the time I was so excited about getting JJ(helmet hair) that I didnt realize what we had in Shula: Class and Consitency! We were always in the playoff picture with only Marino and little else! That is what started this CURSE we are living season after season. We fired(retired) a LEGEND!!! and we are forever doomed!
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SO much lost potential, it is frustrating. We can all look back with 20/20 hindsight and see what has been so wrong over the past ~20 years and numerous valid suggestions have been made already regarding what needs to happen next .
2 things though stand out about your brief history of the Phins. 1, I know it is trivial in the grand scheme but you left out one of my favorite parts of the Dolphin’s story. Joe Auer and opening day 1966…Joe ran the very first kickoff back for a TD. I was never able to research it for the very old clubs but someone once told me that Miami at the time was the only NFL team ever to have scored on their very first play (and I have kept track since and definitely none of the more recent expansion franchises did it after them) I like to sappily think that was a harbinger of great things to come, unfortunately the Phins also went on to lose the game to Oakland, which as it turns out was also some foreshadowing of things to come (until the recent onset of the @&^%#& Houston Texans, Oakland was definitely Miami’s kryptonite team).
Second thing is the part that said, “We only made the playoffs 2 more times during the 70’s,” seems a little unfairly hard on the old club..for starters if we want to nitpick it was 3 more times not just 2 (made it in 74 the year after the Viking SB…that ended in the infamous “Sea of Hands” game, and then again in 78 and 79) that 3 year drought from 75-77, first of all featured 2 decent years where they fell just short of the postseason, including a 10-4 year…That slump was started largely by the dismantling of the roster after 1974 where Csonka, Kiick and Warfield (all critical to the team and none of them QBs I’m just sayin’) were conscripted away from the Dolphins to try and jump start the ill fated WFL expansion league A dynasty in the making was cut short and its a shame because in my opinion if they had been allowed to continue unchecked, could have challenged the Steelers for the right to the tile “team of the 70’s”…and if nothing else at least kept Pittsburgh a little more honest during their run and set up a rivalry on the order of what Indy-New England has been the last decade. but who knows how that would have cascaded in effect through future drafts, maybe they never would have acquired the bulk of the Killer B’s or Marino…
I will dispute one part, yes it is nearly impossible to win it all without a franchise QB but more is needed as well. Franchise QBs need support. Elway played his best years in futility getting repeatedly trounced by superior teams late in the playoffs because he could only go so far carrying the team on his back. he finally won in his twilight becuase he had a total team around him for the first time in his career.
One of the most frustrating things about watching Miami over the last 20 years is how close they have been to elite sometimes,alternating between good Defense bad offense, or vice versa. We need a legitimate NFL starter and if Henne cannot make monster strides this year it is time to go another direction, but that will not solve everything, and if failure this year is enough to cost Sparano his seat, I hope the new regime has the humility and wisdom to see there are some good pieces in place here, and not to tear it all down and start from scratch just for the sake of being able to put their own name on it without owing an assist to anyone else.
by KillerBs on Sep 23, 2011 2:19 AM EDT reply actions 5 recs
Well said sir.
I think that a lot of the good building blocks that are here will still be hear no matter who comes in. While this team obviously still needs some crucial pieces anyone can see that we have several very solid to great young players. Its not like anyone is coming in to a team with nothing to work with.
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by texascowpunk on Sep 23, 2011 2:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Rec.
I believe you have a typo in there:
if they had been allowed to continue unchecked, could have challenged the Steelers for the right to the tile "team of the 70’s"…There is no could. Miami WOULD have unquestionably challenged the Steelers whether or not they would have held onto the title of team of the 70’s is the only real question. Miami played the Steelers 5 times in the 70s (71, 73, 76, and in the playoffs in 72 & 79) and went 3-2. The 3 wins were pre-WFL and the 2 losses were post-WFL. Shula said it best when asked which team was better when he said how can you rank one team ahead of the team it never beat?
The WFL might as well have been in court for the murder of the Dolphins dynasty. The WFL performed a total hatchet job on the Dolphins and we still were tied at the top of the division 3 of the next four years (F’in Tie-breakers). What the WFL did to the Dolphins would be akin to the CFL luring away Terrell Davis, Shannon Sharpe, and the #2 running back on Elway’s Super Bowl champion broncos or better yet Jerry Rice, Roger Craig and the other RB on the 49ers. Anybody think those teams bring in 2 or more super bowls without those 3 guys?
NY Jets = NFL's Chicago Cubs
There's a fine line between hopeful and desperate. Just look @ Jets fans.
by TheFinReaper on Sep 23, 2011 6:44 AM EDT up reply actions
rec'd! I am a History Major & Would Love to hear about what the WFL
did to our beloved Miami Dolphins from people that lived through it! Would someone that actually watched & was a die-hard during that era mind telling us “younger” people about what could have been, what happened, etc;? I wrote my article from a Dolphins book I have, I dont 100% trust wikipedia, so I wanted to make sure what I put was facts. I actually looked at the Dolphins wikipedia page after I read your reply, but it does not expand nor say to much about it. Wow, I didnt know we could or should have been the team of the 70’s! That would make our history even more great! I figured we would be atleast in the top 3 because of the 3 back to back to back Super Bowls, and our undefeated season, but I dont know much about this WFL. Did it turn into the USFL?
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this may be the lazy way to do it
Mosul did some very good write ups on the early Dolphin years, having lived through it, I can tell you it was painful. Basically, Robbie low balled them and the USFL paid them.
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Mosuls write ups for the early years are called Perspectives
"Never let the competition know what your thinking"
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actually, it's my failt
Sorry guys
"The first thing I do when I get out of bed and feel the jolt in my knees is think of Roy Winston. On the second step, my calcified Adam's apple starts bobbing, and I think of Carl Eller. A few more steps in the dark and it's Willie Lanier. By the time I get to the bathroom, I'm flashing back to Dick Butkus and Ray Nitschke. And when the light finally comes on, I just hope that somewhere in the darkness they're thinking of me, too" - Larry Csonka.
He played before my time but one of the toughest SOBs to ever play!
by Strange on Sep 23, 2011 10:51 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
fault..
"The first thing I do when I get out of bed and feel the jolt in my knees is think of Roy Winston. On the second step, my calcified Adam's apple starts bobbing, and I think of Carl Eller. A few more steps in the dark and it's Willie Lanier. By the time I get to the bathroom, I'm flashing back to Dick Butkus and Ray Nitschke. And when the light finally comes on, I just hope that somewhere in the darkness they're thinking of me, too" - Larry Csonka.
He played before my time but one of the toughest SOBs to ever play!
by Strange on Sep 23, 2011 10:51 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
what did you do bro?
Did you have a stake in this WFL thing I keep hearing about? lol
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Knew it.....
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Great post E_Dove, Rec'd
I like TCP’s idea of Henne as premier long term backup, but I would love to see the guy prove us all wrong.
All in all, we need a little history up in here, we are a proud franchise, it’s past time the fans started acting like it!
(oh yeah, and the current team……)
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And can we just admit unicorns are actually kinda bad ass? A friggin' horse with a horn?! C'mon!! That's like the animal version of a 50cal mounted on a '69 Z28.
Driving the "If we're going down, I'm going down smilin'" bandwagon......
I agree
I remember when 8-8 was a losing season. Now we hope for it. Henne is doing a little better. But we really need a QB.
I’m also a little concerned that Sparano is into Offense plays? I know he is head coach but if our new OC and Henne have a chance, let em do it.
Im not smart enough for blockquotes I guess
You quoted,"And we went from 1978 until 1996 without a 1,000 yard rusher, this proves that even before the league went so “pass happy”, you dont need a super RB to get to the playoffs every year!"..We may have made the playoffs every year but without Csonka,Morris,or Kiick we never won a SB..Not to mention a perfect season..And the way our defense is playing right now,a franchise QB wouldnt win us one either.
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by texascowpunk on Sep 24, 2011 3:17 AM EDT up reply actions
I can see your test block quote
& agree with your point.
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Great post Dove!
Laces out!
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we all miss Shula
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Miss the misery.
Need a reason for a change.
Need a reason to explain.
So turn it on again.
Don't change your mind.
You're wasting light.
Shula
Actually, having watched this all since the beginning, if Shula was a young man again he would still be a great coach. Intense and focused. Uber hard working. Creative. Inspiring. Demanding. Technically clever. Inspirational leader. Not just a great coach, a great man.
Sparano is no Shula.
I agree that we need to draft a franchise QB. But I also think that if a coach we think has franchise head coach potential is available we should grab him.
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