Saturdays to Sundays--A Look at College Players Who Could Soon Be Miami Dolphins
Explosive. Hilariously entertaining. Strikes without warning.
A description of a knockout college prospect? No, it's actually just the description of Tony Sparano's upcoming firing.
Anyway, I am painfully aware that this college-player series will likely turn into a quarterback free-for-all once it's confirmed that our current regime is getting the boot (and we're talking "when," not "if"), which means we should probably take a look at some other holes on this team (safety, outside linebacker, right tackle) while it's still acceptable to do so. Once the draft-a-quarterback talk starts, it's not going to stop (understandably), so let's get to it.
Chris Clemons and Reshad Jones fans should probably avert their eyes, because it's about to get real in here. A big problem with our safety position is that it is plagued with players who have all the physical tools, but no instincts or savvy to tie those skills together. Clemons could probably keep up with a Kawasaki crotch rocket for most of a quarter-mile stretch, but he's late to diagnose plays. Jones is aggressive, physical and a gambler in coverage, but he's late to diagnose plays. Yeremiah Bell, while old, is a thumper with freakishly huge arms (his biceps look like they are in their third trimesters) ... but he's late to diagnose plays. Noticing a trend here? Our opponents certainly do, and it's not going to get better anytime soon.
The fix? How about a safety who is as smart as he is an explosive athlete; a leader who excels at protecting the seam; a play-maker who doesn't blow assignments and then stand around with the Urkel "Did I do that?" look on his face.
We need a premier safety in Miami. Nothing less will do.
Markelle Martin, S Oklahoma State
Who is he? A game-changing free safety
Markelle Martin is arguably the best college safety to come out since Eric Berry, possessing an excellent blend of speed, strength, size (6'1", 203 lbs), instincts, awareness, and the ability to simply go up and make tough interceptions (he tallied three picks in 2010, one of which he returned for a score). Martin has gone up against some high-end quarterback talent during his time playing in the Big 12, and his aggressive, relentless approach to the safety position will serve him well at the next level. Martin has very good recovery speed, as well as the ability to defend and cover a large amount of real estate in the secondary. He's also more than happy to shoot in and drop the ball carrier (he already has 21 total tackles and one forced fumble this season).
There's plenty to like about Martin's speed and physicality, but his mental prowess is what sets him apart from many of the other safeties coming out in 2012. Martin does his homework when it comes to sussing out opposing offenses, and he knows what to look for in coverage. He also consistently gets a good jump on throws, and isn't afraid to take on bigger receivers and tight ends.
What does he have that our current safeties lack?
Are you kidding me? To paraphrase the movie Blade, Martin has all of their strengths, none of their weaknesses. He's not about to outrun a bullet train or take on the Ultimate Warrior in a super pose-down, but he has the instincts and awareness to get into the quarterback's head, and the speed to provide immediate help over the top ... or clean up the cornerback's mess. If that's not enough to convince you, ponder this: Clemons, Jones and Bell all do one or two (perhaps even three) things well; Martin is, at worst, average in maybe one or two areas. I like those odds.
But is he better than University of Miami (Fla.) safety Ray-Ray Armstrong?
I expect this question to be asked about a billion times between now and next April, so here's the short answer: Armstrong is the better physical specimen and has plenty of upside, but Martin is the total package at safety and will become an immediate cornerstone in the secondary he inhabits at the next level. It simply comes down to which scenario you most prefer.
Verdict: If the Dolphins want to continue hemorrhaging passing yards up the seam, they should stick with the safeties currently on their roster. If the Dolphins want to lock up the middle-third of the secondary and give Vontae Davis and Sean Smith a reason to show up to work every day, they need to draft a safety early in 2012. It doesn't have to be in the first round, but even waiting until the third round would be pushing it.
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we dont need a QB and a safety looks good but no
we need a stud RT or a massive LG……..i would even like to see we hit that area twice…reason being they are safe picks……if we do end up blowing this season and getting in the top 15 picks we draft ether the highest ranked guard with a 10-19 pick area and if it is a 1-12 area pick (please i hope not) we pick up one of the top tackles in the draft…..henne needs more time….wideouts need more time….bush and thomas need bigger holes……we have alot of talent on the offence side but we cant buy time……only other guy i would like us picking up if we are in the top 15 picks is Vontaze Burfict……this guy is a str8 beast hands down best linebacker in the draft….guy can cover stuff the run and blitz the QB……we can go with a corner or safety ether in the 2nd or 3th round or even free agent….
by b20vhatchf20s2k on Sep 22, 2011 5:49 AM EDT reply actions
Need athletic OLine….guys that can get to the second tier…pull and get out in front of DB’s, LB’s… Watch Peters from the Eagles… He is the guy that will be the typical guy teams will be looking for
by Phins4life2334 on Sep 22, 2011 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions
exactly
This line is sorely lacking a good athletic guard who excells at pulling and getting to the second level. Right now I’ve been looking heavily into DeCastro (sp?) The guard from Stanford. From what I have seen he appears to be stellar and fit that role really well, if we end up with a high draft pick I would not be against trading back and cashing in like clevland did last year to pick up another 1 next year and another 2 this year then get DeCastro and then spend the 2nd grabing a pair of safties.
by AcolyteofRa on Sep 22, 2011 12:33 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
like this ^. whould be easier to move out of
The upper picks with the new rookie salary cap. conversly phins shouldnt have a fear of “over-paying” for a tackle or gaurd either. stood by henne all the way but like to pick up QB with the 1st and O-line with 2nd.
by cdizzy on Sep 22, 2011 2:33 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
And I would take either Kuechly or Te'o over Vontaze Burflict
Te’o is as good as it gets for a classic middle linebacker, and Kuechly is a tackling machine.
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my d picks would be
Vontaze Burfict in the first round…….Markelle Martin or Ray Ray Armstrong both of these players will be in the bottom of the 2nd round…..Julian Miller, DE/OLB, West Virginia in the 3rd round…..
by b20vhatchf20s2k on Sep 22, 2011 6:01 AM EDT reply actions
We need alot more
than a playmaking safety! its a good start! Misi and Burnett not getting it done! Fasano isnt even a top tightend in our own division! Either of the NE TE’s are better! The only OL thats a lock is Long. I thought our young DB’s were on the verge of greatness, I was wrong! Langford, Merling average at best.
KMB
great stuff, since i dont get to watch much college ball(traveling for work), i was wondering if you could also name the top 3 or 4 guys that might be competing with your pick? If i do see a game, i’ll be looking out for the guys you mention above. Again, great stuff and thanks for the info.
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Martin's biggest competition:
1) Ray-Ray
2) Robert Lester, Alabama
3) T.J. McDonald, USC
4) Mark Barron, Alabama (he’s more of a SS)
5) Tony Dye, UCLA
6) Kenny Tate, Maryland
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i said in the offseason
we needed an upgrade at FS.
Did anyone agree with me…no.
Like the scouting report kmb, don’t get to watch college football often. Usually familiarize myself with the prospects at the combine.
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don't get me wrong...Clemons is a good player...not great
I like that he’s always in position to make the tackle or deflection. I just want to see him start making the BIG plays.
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It's not that the FS couldn't use an upgrade
But I don’t think many, including myself, thought it was a big enough need that should be addressed before other positions. In fact, I think both safety positions need upgrading.
Luckily, I still hold out hope for Clemons. I am hoping we do address the positions in the future, but I still don’t think we may need to use a high pick on one.
This may shock some, but I actually think Bell may end up being the biggest liability. With the NFL being so pass happy and penalizing big hits, the days of Steve Atwater and John Lynch are gone. That means SS will end up going the way of FBs and you’ll see more FS-type players manning both safety positions. Bell is strong against the run, but has limited range in the passing game. If Clemons even performs average when he comes back, I wouldn’t be too surprised to see him at FS and another player at SS.
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Of course I don't have a link but
I read a blurb about Parcells saying a few years ago that the days of the Strong Safety are numbered………
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I see Jones as more of a SS
Bell’s replacement?
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I agreed with you. I think FS is probably the 2nd most important position on Defense behind a pass rusher.
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agreed
safety is the last line of defense
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but i would rather see this saying if we had the 12th overall pick cuz tony cant coach!!
Vontaze Burfict ILB if hes not there Jonathan Martin moving him to the RT spot….if both are gone Cordy Glenn….glenn will be the best guard on many draft boards and could prob. play RT as well but would rather have him inside……2nd round would be a toss up depending on free agent….…….Markelle Martin FS or Ray Ray Armstrong SS ether one but if both are gone Janoris Jenkins CB should slid outta the first round becuz of off feild issues but that didnt stop us from drafting vontaie davis or jimmy wilson,the guy has alotta upside but if hes not there ether Kenny Tate SS maryland
by b20vhatchf20s2k on Sep 22, 2011 6:23 AM EDT reply actions
Jonathan Martin or Riley Reiff would kill it at right tackle
Same with Levy Adcock.
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ray ray over martin all day
ray ray is faster stronger and taller…….ray ray is 6’4 gotta luv that and he is a south beach boy!!!!!!
by b20vhatchf20s2k on Sep 22, 2011 6:25 AM EDT reply actions
taller is bad for a safety
Safeties need to be around 6’ because a taller safety can’t twist around as fast, isn’t as agile, can’t bend their hips as much. A safety needs to have a flexible body, which is hard for a taller safety to be.
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Chad Henne for the 2012 pro bowl
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by AnishB15 on Sep 22, 2011 6:53 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
and finally in the 3rd round
Kelechi Osemele GUARD….dolphins have been doing a two pick thang the last couple of drafts and could see us getting glenn in the first and coming back and picking up Kelechi Osemele from Iowa State this guy is a monster at 6’5 340 plus pounds and would be about a 3rd or fouth round pick….stick him between long and pouncy and the left side will be a beast for 8 years……….and other choice would be Asa Chapman from Liberty at nose tackle….guy is 6’4 over 370 pounds and would be in rotate with solia…..or Ladarius Green from Louisiana-Lafayette at TE…..this guy has alotta up side but cant block at the next lvl has really good hands and runs clean routes….also at 6’6 230 pounds has room to grow
by b20vhatchf20s2k on Sep 22, 2011 6:36 AM EDT reply actions
Earl Thomas
Was there when they picked 2 years ago & they trade down AGAIN! I’m soo sick of the Dolphins F Them, i hope nobody goes to their games
Randy Shannon owes me a Liver.
by SSFDballer on Sep 22, 2011 6:56 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Man I know that were not getting the #1 pick there's to much upside to the Offence. Our QB is covered, just now haveing said that & keeping in mind, that i thought our linebacker situation was coverd. But alass, i was compleatly fooled by our defense!
There is one that reminds me of a LT at linebacker! VB
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by wild zion beaver on Sep 22, 2011 7:27 AM EDT reply actions
Cant believe some folks still dont want to
draft a qb in the first round.
Its been almost 30 years!!! Its about time!!!
This philosophy of trying to improve every position except qb is flat out stupid. A good qb can make up for holes and weaknesses in the rest of the team. A good qb can inspire confidence in his teammates. Not inspire doubt and hopelessness like yall saw this week.
Tired of this qb with a throwing motion barely faster than Tebow. Tired of this qb who reads through his reads slower than flavor flav reads a book. Tired of this qb who has the ball placement of Pat White. Tired of this qb with a huge arm made worthless with a complete lack of deep ball accuracy. Tired of this qb who looks like he has the potential to be an average qb but cant even be consistent in that. Tired of ppl saying he needs more time and talent around him.
We’ve wasted enough years. Use 1st rohnd draft picks on players that actually impact wins/losses. Have some balls. Stop drafting non pass rushing dlineman and centers. Thats for teams that have no holes and are looking to strengthen depth.
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Sep 22, 2011 8:17 AM EDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Say bru "Phil Simms" wasent all that, but guess what he won a superbowl. It wasn't that hard eather if Trent Dilpher can win a Super-Bowl I say Henne can also!
I understand; U & me dont just want one we want 4 or 5 in our time, so as we can stick it to the “rest of the NFL” along the way. Espicaly the Rex Ryan crew/speaking of coaches our coach Tony is going through a change, if we make the playoff sceen this year. I say he stays if not he is a coach that ruined a few hundred lives. Dont get me wrong he’s no mass murder, but my son was crying when we “lost to Houston” I lied to him & said all will be ok!
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by wild zion beaver on Sep 22, 2011 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Beav I get what ur saying for once lol
But this is a different league now. it is harder to get a truly elite defense and running game at the same time then it is to find a good qb and build around him.
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Sep 22, 2011 9:42 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Rex Ryan wood die to have the compitentcy of a henne..........
The man MAN is a leader who may or may-not have a god gifted talent!
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by wild zion beaver on Sep 22, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Henne playing for him!
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by wild zion beaver on Sep 22, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Srry kmb for writing my rant on ur post.
Thanks for the great write up and insight though.
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Sep 22, 2011 8:20 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
And he for sure believes in drafting a QB first but is highlighting other positions of need as well.
If only we could go in to each draft like the Pats with 64 picks in our back pocket.
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by texascowpunk on Sep 22, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I am firmly on the QB bandwagon
I just want to cover players at other positions before all hell breaks loose.
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The leader of the (Miami Dolphins Offense) is here already/get that sum (QB's) it take up to 4-8 years Before they finely get it!
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by wild zion beaver on Sep 22, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL Beaver I love your optimism so I will not shoot it down!
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by texascowpunk on Sep 22, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Bottom line
The fins won’t be worth a sh*t until they get rid of Mentally-challenged Sparano and get a real quarterback.
Or sumone who can get-u a td on first from inside the one yard line!
Where are u Polite??????????
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by wild zion beaver on Sep 23, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
You look at the performace of Henne the last two games
Then look at the play of guys like Incognito,Carey,Fasano,our DART “dumb *ss right tackle”,safeties,linebackers,corners,and can still say our problem is at QB?
If anything id rather see us get a LG,and switch Incognito to the RG position where he belongs.
Safety in the second,if not a RT. Complete our oline,i mean its not bears bad,but its not patriots or jets good either
by dolphinfan4lyfe on Sep 22, 2011 9:19 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Our oline played well last game
Gave Henne time and limited mistakes. If the other team is blitzing then its the qbs responsibility to get rid of it quick. The run blocking looked excellent when we had a back who could fall forward in there.
This regime has already invested big money on our linebackers corners and safeties. Karlos Dansby highest paid ilb in history at the time. Burnett got a big money deal. Vontae and sean smith are 1st and 2nd rounders respectively. Gibril Wilson and Yermiah Bell got HUGE deals, were paid like top 5 players.
Dont keep making the same mistakes over and over again or else the team will be mediocre forever. Get a qb.
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Sep 22, 2011 9:31 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Our O-line played well last week? Luv ya D-BessT but that is the dumbest thing you have ever said.
- The run game succeeded as much because of placeent as it did effort. The majority (not all) of Thomas big runs (7+ yards in Sunday’s case) came by running to the center or center-left gaps.Maybe Sparano finnally figured out to run to the left because Carey and Colombo are crap.
- Henne’s INT was because Colombo let his man burn him like toast similar to Wake’s forced fumble on Favre last season. The Texans rushed 5, each lineman was one-on-one (although Pouncey’s and Incognito’s Texans both bunched up in the middle), and everyone held their block clean except Colombo. Henne finished the 3-step drop and set to throw but both of his targets were too tightly covered. Henne pats to give his receiver a signal to break to the sideline to get seperation and the receiver (Hartline) did that just as Henne started his throw. Colombos’ assigned Linemen then whacks Henne’s arm sending the ball fluttering into the air. A nominally good O-line gives Henne enough time to complete that 2-5 yard pass. In other words it wasn’t a long developing play that required the OLine to hold the Texans back for a long time. Schaub’s 3rd quarter bomb to Johnson saw the Texans O-Line hold us out for a full 5 seconds with no pressure in sight. That is an O-Line playing well.
-Henne was sacked twice on Sunday and both were because the O-Line caved in around him.
- How many balls were batted down at the line of scrimmage? Henne isn’t Pat White (ie. Short) so why did this happen? Perhaps if the line was playing so well they would have kept on their blocks instead of letting them back off (still inside the line of scrimmage mind you so no penalty would be called on us for ineligible downfield) and throw their hands up. Show me a good O-Line coach that hasn’t instructed his palyers to pop the chest of a D-Linemen who has thrown his hands up to get him to drop them as a reflex. Twice I saw Carey just stand their while his guy disengaged and threw his hands up to bat down a ball and succeed doing it. Someone should be telling Carey and the rest of the O-Line that the play ends on the whistle, not when your guy decides to disengage from you!
- The Texans weren’t blitzing!! For nearly the entire game, Houston rushed 5 or fewer (often less than 5) and still put pressure on Henne.
- The answer on the batted down balls was 6 by the way. Now if Henne completes half of those and half the drops are caught Henne would have been 18-30 (60%)
and had each of those passes gone for just 4 yards each (well below Henne’s career 6.62 Y/A) Henne’s QB rating would have jumped 20 points to 76.25. factor in another TD (Marshall’s drop) and the rating would top out at a little under 90 (which many here agreed would be a suitable performance to put Miami in the playoffs).
- Henne had 6 passes dropped 3 of which were all but impossible to go incomplete. Are you gonna suggest we draft a #1 WR because Marshall dropped a TD pass in the end twice in as many weeks?
- Henne isn’t gonna elevate a 7-9 team to 11-5 and the playoffs perennially but there is no guarantee than any drafted QB is either. I was all ready and willing to draft Landry Jones out of Oklahoma this year if Henne didn’t improve but in both games he has shown big improvement in his game. It isn’t Henne’s fault that our defense no-showed week 1, Daboll called a fade route for Brian Hartline while jumbling up Bess and Marshall on the right side and not utilising his TEs (that should probly say TE in the singular sense), or that Colombo is about as effective at stopping somebody as a limbo pole erected 6 feet off the ground. Let’s cut the kill Henne garbage and watch how the Cleveland game turns out. Also don’t forget that Henne is average 8.5 yards per carry (Mike Vick is averaging 7.17 BTW) so he has even added that extra dimension to his game. Will you get that with a college QB next year? If our O-line still sucks we will need a scramblin QB. Sad part is, Henne can play great all season but if Sparano goes, Henne will be shown the door by whoever the new coach is.
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by TheFinReaper on Sep 22, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Wow I dont know what I can say
that is a thing of beauty, perfectly said sir. Since Sunday I have heard that Henne played awful, that he regressed, that he is not the answer, and even the replace him with Moores already. BUT if you actually watched the game Henne did great. Put just about any other QB in that game and the result is much MUCH worse. He was running for his life the entire time had his passes batted down with little contention and his WRs did him absolutely no favors yet all of the blame is falling directly on him for some reason despite him continually showing his many improvements. Its ridiculous
It's taken time for the O line to gel each year
Of course we have a different O line each year, but I see it only taking longer this year due to lockout. That is if we gel at all…….
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Ill give u oline
The other points still stand.
i actually went to the game so wasnt able to see the close ups and replays. Still Henne was staring down his first read every play. He didnt move on to his next read until the number one had completely run his route but by then its too late. Im not saying the oline is elite, im saying its sufficient.
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Sep 22, 2011 8:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'll give you that Henne doesn't progress in his reads as quick as some of the upper-tier QBs (As far as we can see). However,
It must be stated that we don’t know how fast he is going through his reads. Remember that on many occasions (such as the play with the batted arm INT and the fade call to Hartline back in week 1) we have had two or more WR on the same side of the field where Henne can see both (or more) routes. Henne’s does take longer than many NFL QBs to turn his head to a new read but that may be his 2nd, 3rd, or even 4th read.
Im not saying the oline is elite, im saying its sufficient.I really think you need to define sufficient.
- Miami has surrendered 6 sacks in 2 games which is tied for 8th most in the league after playing two teams who averaged less than 2.25 per game last season (We allowed an average of 2.4 last season). Granted, of the 5 teams that have allowed more QB hits than us, all but 1 (Eagles) have allowed more sacks than we have.
- Henne was sacked/pressured/knocked down constantly last week and (I know it’s special teams) but the blocked field goal was partly on the line as they got stood up and pushed back. Miami is currently tied for sixth most QB hits allowed (2 hits short of tied for 1st).
- The line isn’t the worst in the NFL but being ranked #25 by NFL.com shows that they are HARDLY sufficient as far as I am concerned.
As for your other points if you mean this:
Karlos Dansby highest paid ilb in history at the time. Burnett got a big money deal. Vontae and sean smith are 1st and 2nd rounders respectively. Gibril Wilson and Yermiah Bell got HUGE deals, were paid like top 5 players. Dont keep making the same mistakes over and over again or else the team will be mediocre forever. Get a qb.I emphasised the last sentence because it seems the exactly wrong direction based on everything else you said. According to you we
- Overpaid for Dansby (Well hindsight is 20/20 as Dansby was a franchise-caliber LB)
- We gave big money to a guy to replace Crowder that happens to be leaps and bounds beyond Crowder (Historically speaking)
- Drafted Vontae and Smith in the 1st and 2nd round (Yes and your point is. . . )
- Gave Gerbil and Y. Bell HUGE deals (Bell has been the one guy on the defense that has been consistently solid and is our only mult-year captain. There is no defending Gerbil Wilson.
- (ADDITIONAL) We gave a one-dimensional loudmouth that was average at best and big contract extension. Well at least they tried to remedy that with Burnett but so far that has been a big bust.
Okay all accurate points but your solution to all the failings at acquiring defensive talent is to get a QB? Have you noticed how not one player has had a single negative thing to say about Henne since the lockout? #NOTE# I said player so I am ruling out Crowder. Step back from the ledge because either the team will gel or Sparano (and Henne by default) will be gone come January. I just hope that whoever we draft get’s his NFL game wired down quick because as good as this class is I have doubts that a rookie behind this O-line will fair any better than Henne would. We are still trying to find our identity as a team and IF we get there before the end of the Cleveland game everybody better take notice and 3 weeks later after we beat the Jets everyone will.
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by TheFinReaper on Sep 22, 2011 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I have to agree w/Davone...
If tony gets fired – then we simply MUST DRAFT A QB… b/c that will also mean that Henne had a poor year. NOTHING is more important than a QB – nothing…until this franchise learns this we will be a .500 or below team. Please quit drafting D-line, Oline, second rate RB’s and others before getting a great QB !
Luck, Landry Jones, Nick foles, would be good picks – and there is a chance that landry jones could fall to us without a trade up – the way we are losing.
I am still hopin that henne continues to improve – but last week the regresses.
12 for 30 ??? REALLY 170 yards ? sure the OLINE was bad again, but Henne did regress. He still has a chance to be very good – but time is running out.
QB is the most important position in all of sports…
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New coach almost always means new QB.
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by sonnycrockett on Sep 22, 2011 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Did you even watch the game vs the Texans?
the stat line looks bad yes but the blame does not belong to Henne. The WRs were dropping perfectly thrown passes especially the perfect TD throw to Marshall. The Oline was letting the Dline swat down a ridiculous number of Hennes passes and couldn’t give him any time to throw the ball resulting in two sacks and an INT. He played far better than his stat line suggests and from what I was watching it was far from a regression he played well. If he does actually regress later on and becomes the reason we are losing games rather than the reason we have stayed competitive like he has been the past two weeks then yeah we should jump on the first round QB, but if he keeps playing like he has QB shouldnt even be a thought except maybe a mid rounder to groom behind Henne.
A Safety...?
We don’t need any safety if not late in our pick meaby a 5 or 6th. Jones is a SS and Clemons a FS. Jones is suited way better a SS. We need a Pass Rush. Wake he is alone and cannot do it by himself.
1st Pick DE
2nd TE
3rd OL
4rd OL
5rd MLB
6rd SS
We drafted Odrick n Misi
Wasted picks. Odrick is not an impact player, not because of lack of talent but because hes a 3-4 end. Misi is a bust. 2nd round pick on an average 2 down linebacker?
I agree pass rusher is a major need. Get a raw one in the 2nd round or sign one in free agency. I know they are expensive and hard 2 find but not as much as qbs.
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Sep 22, 2011 10:30 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Look the bottom line here is...............
We first need people who actually know how to evaluate talent,plain and simple!!! We can talk till were blue in the face,but this front office has MISSED way more then they’ve hit.He Cowher,is by FAAAAAARRRRRR the best coach available,so get him now to evaluate the talent(coaches too)and end this ………..BUFFOONERY!!!! cuz I cant take another year of this shit,and thats putting it mildly…………Still waiting….since 1973
by keyzkidd on Sep 22, 2011 10:37 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
You should probably
go back and read that post that someone (i think it was Mosul) did a few weeks ago about the FOs success in the draft maybe then you will realize this group is actually really good in evaluating talent and has hit more than they miss especially if you take out the parcells picks like Pat White
by AcolyteofRa on Sep 22, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
This^^^^^^.....................................................................................!
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by wild zion beaver on Sep 22, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I agree. They have made some bad choices but name me a GM that has not.
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by texascowpunk on Sep 22, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Ok Ill end it all here....we need alot of things lol
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In today's NFL, the 3 most important positions (in order) on a football team are: QB, Pass Rusher (DE or OLB), and FS.
Right now, the Dolphins have only one of those positions that can be relied upon week in and week out. That is Pass Rusher in Cam Wake.
The Safety position is so important in today’s NFL and the really good defenses have really good safeties. They set the coverage. They support the run defense. They create turnovers. Without good safety play, it is next to impossible to be an elite defense. The Phins need to upgrade that position.
I am still of the opinion that Vontae Davis is more of a natural safety in the NFL than a CB. I also think he would have more of an impact on defense if he patroled the middle of the field. Plus, having 3 CB types on the field (think Giants with Rolle and Saints with Jenkins) would solve some coverage issues.
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by ct1361 on Sep 22, 2011 1:15 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Nice this is what i was saying after his first year (Ronnie Lott) type!
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by wild zion beaver on Sep 22, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Would we draft a corner then?
Maybe Morris Claiborne, Coryell Judie or even Janoris Jenkins.
Time to unleash the Greatest Show on Surf!
You did say it was easyer to find a CB then a QB!
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by wild zion beaver on Sep 22, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think you can have too many CB's in today's NFL. You need guys who can cover.
My point has been for awhile now is that when healthy, the Phins 4 best DB’s are (in no particular order): Smith, Davis, Allen, Bell, it only makes sense to me that these guys should be on the field the majority of the time. If these are you 4 best DB’s it also makes the most sense to me that Davis, because of his tackling ability, is best suited for a safety position to support the run. So I would have Allen and Smith at CB with Bell and Davis at Safety.
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Unless the FS is an absolute STUD, I would take CB's and convert one to FS. I want guys who can cover above anything else in the secondary.
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by AnishB15 on Sep 22, 2011 3:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I was thinking Davis as I was reading your comment
And then you went right to it in the last paragraph. He seems the build, I think that’s a great idea……..
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They'll Fvck It Up - Always do
Not signing Drew Brees
Not taking Matt Ryan
Not taking Earl Thomas
Not drafting Ryan Mallet(In the the 3rd freaking round)!!!
& taking shitty fragile rag doll Pat White(in the 2nd round)
This team is cursed & has NO HOPE which is the worst part! Don’t even waste your time talking about them & stop going 2 games
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by SSFDballer on Sep 22, 2011 1:48 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Thats a horrifing thought & i will debuqe you for infering!
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by wild zion beaver on Sep 22, 2011 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Not signing Brees?
That was before this regime.
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
LOL How often do we see this current FO that in all reality has had ONE off season on
their own lumped with all the others in the last decade? People do not think before talking or in this case typing.
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by texascowpunk on Sep 22, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
So the current FO is not to blame for the past decade of failures?
Darn, I was about to criticize them for trading a 2nd for Feeley and a 3rd for Lamar Gordon.
Oh well, I still say out with them all since we did not sign Drew Brees! Damn it. That monkey stole my pitchfork again…
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
LOL Yes. Two losses and everyone looses their grip on reality.
Not saying that a fan has to believe in Ireland but it makes me nuts when people make their argument against a guy with made up shit.
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by texascowpunk on Sep 22, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Ya know...
I may be the odd one out, but I’m not yet in a panic mode after losses to 2 really good teams. I would feel much worse about the prospect of our season if we do lose to Cleveland and start 0-3.
As far as the coaching staff and Ireland, I do think there are faults with Sparano and I think this team so far this season has lacked intensity and has made a bunch of mental errors, which can be traced back to Sparano and the coaching staff. On the other hand, I really don’t think Ireland has done a poor job as a GM. Even if Sparano were to go, I would not be opposed to Ireland sticking around. It definitely looks like he has a pretty good eye for talent and I like how he sticks to convictions and doesn’t panic about the state of the franchise. A weaker GM would’ve caved and traded a 2nd for Orton and giving him a large contract.
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
I don't want Ireland gone either. I was only saying that if others do I am fine
with that opinion as they have a right to it but at the very least they need to back up their argument with fact and not lies or whatever you want to call twisting the truth/facts.
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by texascowpunk on Sep 22, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Not panic mode for me either...
Although I’d really like a DECISIVE win over Cleveland to make me feel better. Does everyone forget the BILLS were 5-1 in ‘08 before ending up 7-9? Can’t take things TOO seriously right now……
Although, I like Sparano. High energy, extreme attention to detail, dedicated, and popular with his players not named Ricky (just shut up dude, you quit on us). I just see is as trial by fire in a very tough line of work………
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Driving the "If we're going down, I'm going down smilin'" bandwagon......
You are not alone Finhead. I won't panic until we go 0-5. Then again, the panic will be short because I will be too busy planning a good riddance to Sparano party if we go 0-5.
I like our odds against Cleveland. Offensively we are superior in all but 4 main categories (pts/game 3rd down %, Time of Possession and turnovers) which is saying something since we played NE and HOU and they played CINCY and INDY. Then again, knowing all this only makes a loss look that much worse.
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There's a fine line between hopeful and desperate. Just look @ Jets fans.
by TheFinReaper on Sep 23, 2011 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions
They have had some misses yes
but now lets look at the hits shallll we?
Signing Davone Bess
Trading for Brandon Marshall
Signing Cameron Wake
Drafting Vontae Davis
Drafting Sean Smith
Signing Karlos Dansby
Signing Kevin Burnett
Drafing Jake Long (Jake Long>Matt Ryan)
Thats just off the top of my head, we could also go into the ones who seem like they will be moving into this category in short time. Pouncey, Clay, Odrick, Wilson, Thomas (if he keeps playing like he did Sunday) and Henne.
Your forgetting a few
the signing of randy starks,the trade for mcdaniels,drafting kendall langford,odrick will be better which will give us depth enough to trade for something we need with something they want which is a dt/de combo,unless we switch to a big man 4-3 like later expressed.
alot of these moves would even seem smarter if so many players were not playing out of position.
by dolphinfan4lyfe on Sep 22, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I figured I did but
this just hits on my point though, there are a ton of positives that this FO has made as well and no team in the league always hits, all teams have misses just like we do, it happens. But you know thinking about it I see what your saying about the 4-3 switch, our personnel really does fit it better and could really improve their play. Id even be ok with maybe just a shift from running a primary 3-4 with a little 4-3 to a primary 4-3 with a little 3-4 . The only thing I can picture is Wake and Taylor bursting off the edge and destroying Sanchez in the middle, such a pleasant thought :D
Burnett is garbage
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Sep 22, 2011 8:05 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Not signing Drew Brees
After starting with that the rest of your argument has lost all credibility.
Yeah your right its a FO's fault for something that happened before they got here!
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by texascowpunk on Sep 22, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Its the second rd picks that areJudgment calls!
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by wild zion beaver on Sep 22, 2011 1:56 PM EDT reply actions
You mean the ones that were made when Parcells who is now gone was pulling the trigger
or at the very least had the last say?
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by texascowpunk on Sep 22, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
The same Parcells who was uncharacteristly enamored with Pat White?
That is sooo Ireland’s and Sparano’s fault for letting Parcells draft him.
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
Yeah everyone knew that this was a thing that Parcells wanted.
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by texascowpunk on Sep 22, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah but i'm hearing jerry is suxing up the place!
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by wild zion beaver on Sep 22, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions
umm parcells ran the show,they didnt have a choice
by dolphinfan4lyfe on Sep 22, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah thats the point we are making.
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by texascowpunk on Sep 22, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
lol he forgot the sarcasm box,and i forgot to make coffee this morning.
i read it wrong
by dolphinfan4lyfe on Sep 22, 2011 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL Your good. Much is lost in translation on the inernet.
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by texascowpunk on Sep 22, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
idk i seem to understand wzb pretty good when im caffinated
so i think i need coffee,bbl starbucks here i come,lol
by dolphinfan4lyfe on Sep 22, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Eff the sarcasm box.
When you see my name as the author, just assume every word is sarcasm. Most of the time you’d be 100% correct with that assumption.
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
I'll leave those as the exception to my sarcasm!
Most of the time…
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
Jerry now looks too be years behind!
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by wild zion beaver on Sep 22, 2011 1:57 PM EDT reply actions
The way this ship is sailing we will be in play for one of the top qb’s. We would be dumb not to take him if we are in position. New regime = new QB.
Kacy Rodgers! (Our D-Line Coach) Got to give him some credit.
Rusty Smith! (Titans future qb)
Play to win
by 54 on Sep 22, 2011 2:19 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I agree. I like that Henne has taken a step forward and may continue to do so.
This of course helps the Phins one way or another. That being said if you have a chance to take a guy that you think can be a top 3-5 guy for the next 15 years you DO NOT pass that up. If that happens and you do find that guy then you have an improved Henne to steer the ship while he learns and then later down the road a damn good back-up or a valuable trade piece.
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by texascowpunk on Sep 22, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Worst case scenario
Henne grows and we have two solid QBs, much like SD did with Brees/Rivers. Plus Henne could stay on to start with a young QB to sit on the bench for a year or 2. Too many solid QBs is probably the best problem to have in the NFL. Or else Henne falters and we have a young first round QB that will hopefully fill the void.
Oh yes, I also don’t have to see Dave Buck post the same comment 500 times within a 2 months span.
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
Yeah thats what I was saying.
Also take it easy there on Dave Buck brother! Hes just passionate, very passionate about that one singular subject.
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by texascowpunk on Sep 22, 2011 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL
Always there to support the fellow Fin fans.
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
I hear you and you were not wrong just sayin'........
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by texascowpunk on Sep 22, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Henne is a Free Agent after this year. If there is a new coaching staff, do you think they will bring him back if he isn't a top half of the league QB?
I think that might be a stretch. New coaches want their guys, not the guys that got the last regime fired.
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"Walter, I love you, but sooner or later, you're going to have to face the fact you're a goddamn moron." THE DUDE (The Big Lebowski)
Yes
I don’t think the front office, whoever it may be, would go with a rookie and Matt Moore. Because Henne is familiar with the players and beyond Orton, who is pricey and may not reach the market, I wouldn’t think it would be far fetched if Henne was signed to a 1 or 2 year contract.
Coaches want players they’re familiar with, but they also want players in their system that can win and know they can’t turn it around over night. Plus, Henne would give them some leeway. Because he is familiar with the rest of the team, he may end up doing better than a declining veteran who would be brought in as a stopgap until a rookie would be ready. Even if Miami and Henne lossed, the new regime would have an excuse because they were going with a leftover QB from the old regime.
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
Oh
And this was going on the theory that Henne does continue to take a step forward, not that he ends up through another subpar season. If that happens, the point of our discussion would be moot anyways. All we’re saying is that if Henne shows a little bit of promise, but Miami is still in position to take a top tier QB, they should still do so. Being that Henne would have shown a glimpse of promise for next year, it wouldn’t exactly be a bad idea to use a 1 or 2 year contract anyways.
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
Yeah I do.
I think you tender him at something reasonable so we either get something in return for him or he has to sign a reasonable offer. I don’t want to draft a guy with the idea that he MUST start. If it works out that way then great. If not then you have some insurance in the mean time.
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by texascowpunk on Sep 22, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Unfortunately we can't tender him with anything other than the franchise tag
But I don’t think he’s at a point where he would command top dollars. I don’t think it is unreasonable to sign him to a short term deal, even if it paid him $4-$5 million for one or two years.
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
Yeah I would be fine with that. Thats decent back up money.
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by texascowpunk on Sep 22, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
If anything the problematic areas on offence and defence ae as follows:
Offence: LG,RT,TE,Depth at O line
Defense: NT “stiil think we should go back to playing a 4-3”,SS,FS,CB depth.
Notice one thing,no pass rushers,no defensive ends,no outside linebackers.
Personally,if we swapped to a 4-3 we’d be making more plays on D. First and foremost,we have several DT’s on the squad. several 4-3 DEs,a middle LB tht thrives in OLB in the 4-3,and most importantly,too many players making too many transitions.
Wake is a 4-3 de,Misi is a 4-3 DE,do the math and we would have so many things to replace next year,and wed get rid of Soliais greedy agent and bloated contract as well.
by dolphinfan4lyfe on Sep 22, 2011 3:16 PM EDT reply actions
I might be leaning towards your thinking on the defense as well.
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by texascowpunk on Sep 22, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
It's your fault as you were the first one that brought it up. Well to me anyhow and got me
thinking about it.
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by texascowpunk on Sep 22, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow, what a shit fest of comments....
Btw, rec’d kmb.
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
My comments were grade A sir!
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by texascowpunk on Sep 22, 2011 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes they are. You know what I meant....
lol
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
I am never 100% sure what you mean.
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by texascowpunk on Sep 22, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
See my below comment....
lol
Well, at least 99%….
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
I deserve a solid B+
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
For humor alone....
lol
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
I gave you a B- but might reconsider if you do some extra credit commenting.
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by texascowpunk on Sep 22, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll start digging through my album so I can post Bacon's baby pictures and his cross-dressing days...
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
lmao
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
You thought I was kidding didn't you? I have 'em!
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
Thta's how he's dressed when I see him leaving out the door.
Then he doesn’t come back for a while….
LOL!
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
That's just the before picture. This is the after...
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
I knew it!
That’s how he does it.
He gets a mohawk and paints his nose so it looks longer.
The little bastard!
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
That's not the only thing he paints to make it look longer...
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
lol lol lol
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
Damn i've seen him lifting mirriors, cuz they May make things look bigger!
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by wild zion beaver on Sep 22, 2011 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions
That is the most organized sentence you've ever put together!
Are you drunk?
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
Lmao!!!
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by wild zion beaver on Sep 23, 2011 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Ill settle for a c
so many good words strt with the letter c,idk y its a mid letter grade. lol
by dolphinfan4lyfe on Sep 22, 2011 3:30 PM EDT reply actions
At least you didn't go offense....
lol
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Such evaluation for two games.
Mostly in firing the offence.
I thought the post was on Safeties… on the defense…
And it’s been hijacked into an the offense philisophical debate in emotions.
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So kmb, wouldn’t more playing time, i.e. games make Clemons and Reshad smarter, faster at diagnosing plays? It’s all about discipline with those two. Bell is just getting old by NFL standards, tho he’s good in run support….
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"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
I agree that Jones and Clemons
both could really improve their playing smarts with more play time, though if they dont show improvement it may be a good idea to look into someone who has natural smarts to go with his physical tools. I do think we should probably grab a guy who can quickly take over for bell as he is getting older, I like Bell but he wont last forever, I really like the safety for Alabama, Mark Barron i think is his name, he looks like he would be a great replacement for Bell and should be available in the second this year.
Well, there's always a chance that Clemons and Jones eventually "get it" through game reps
But I really believe that the elite safeties in the NFL have instincts and awareness that you really can’t teach—you either have it or you don’t. These rare abilities are why guys like Ed Reed and Troy Polamalu seem to disrupt any throw over the middle. The same theory can be applied to MLB centerfielders like Willie Mays and ‘90s-era Ken Griffey Jr.—they got a great jump on almost every ball hit their way, because their heads were in the game and they knew exactly what to look for. Willie Mays supposedly could hear the hit, and without even looking for the ball, turn and run to exactly where the ball would eventually land. And he was able to do that because he could judge the distance of the hit just by the crack of the bat. That’s an attention to detail that very few people possess.
Time to unleash the Greatest Show on Surf!
I understand what you're saying
I remember Miami having real good safeties….
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good read
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