Ask Battle Red Blog: The Unofficial Q&A about the Houston Texans
What's up, Dolfans. My name is Jordan(n) and I hail from Battle Red Blog.
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It's about that time again where our beloved Houston Texans are slated to face off against your Miami Dolphins this coming weekend. I know that everybody's aware that the Texans record against the Dolphins is a stellar 5-0, making the Texans the bane of your existence.
If it makes you feel any better, there's still no legitimate proof that our secondary is much more improved than last year's under-achieving(Read: Sucktastic) unit.
But our pass-rush is something to be afraid of. All that talk about Mario Williams sucking at OLB is nothing but a propaganda fueled by opposing coaches in order to lull their starting quarterback in a false sense of security. And our 1st rd draft pick, J.J. Watt(Mario Blanco, Honeybadger), ain't too bad either.
To continue the great rapport that we have going on with the Phinsider and fellow NFL fans, feel free to leave your questions about picking up a hookers, what brand of bleach you need to use for a specific occasion, beer, dating, and the Houston Texans in this fanpost. I, along with other BRBer's, will try our best to answer them.
Looking forward to another exciting game this weekend against the Dolphins. Go Texans!
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You are strange
and trust me, I know strange
"The first thing I do when I get out of bed and feel the jolt in my knees is think of Roy Winston. On the second step, my calcified Adam's apple starts bobbing, and I think of Carl Eller. A few more steps in the dark and it's Willie Lanier. By the time I get to the bathroom, I'm flashing back to Dick Butkus and Ray Nitschke. And when the light finally comes on, I just hope that somewhere in the darkness they're thinking of me, too" - Larry Csonka.
He played before my time but one of the toughest SOBs to ever play!
I'm not strange.
I’m just big-boned!
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
LOL
"The first thing I do when I get out of bed and feel the jolt in my knees is think of Roy Winston. On the second step, my calcified Adam's apple starts bobbing, and I think of Carl Eller. A few more steps in the dark and it's Willie Lanier. By the time I get to the bathroom, I'm flashing back to Dick Butkus and Ray Nitschke. And when the light finally comes on, I just hope that somewhere in the darkness they're thinking of me, too" - Larry Csonka.
He played before my time but one of the toughest SOBs to ever play!
his bones aren't big...
but his belly is. #pow
"my momma was the Mike Vick of ass whuppin. side arm delivery, no wasted motion.. and very mobile." - @doobieman21
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is it me or strange acting strange
WE WINNING THE SUPERBOWL DON'T MATTER IF HENNE SUCK DON'T MATTER IF REGGIE NOT A FEATURE BACK DON'T MATTER IF WE NEED A BETTER TIGHT END DON'T MATTER IF COLOMBO SUCK DON'T MATTER IF WE NEED A BETTER SAFETY DON'T MATTER IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE
DID I FORGOT ANYTHING? DON'T MATTER
by biggaandbadda on Sep 15, 2011 1:50 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Does that mean I am acting normal?
"The first thing I do when I get out of bed and feel the jolt in my knees is think of Roy Winston. On the second step, my calcified Adam's apple starts bobbing, and I think of Carl Eller. A few more steps in the dark and it's Willie Lanier. By the time I get to the bathroom, I'm flashing back to Dick Butkus and Ray Nitschke. And when the light finally comes on, I just hope that somewhere in the darkness they're thinking of me, too" - Larry Csonka.
He played before my time but one of the toughest SOBs to ever play!
That being said, my questions are as follows
1) How do Texans fans rate Matt Shaub as a QB, say compared to top QBs around the league. He has good numbers, but what are his strenghts, weaknesses, and etc. I am not asking this challenge you but to get a sense of fan opinion
2) Who are the guys that Texans fans love, but no one else in the league has heard about? Not your elite probowl types, but the underdog players you root for because through grit, hard work, and/or intelligence, they always manage to play well.
3) Can you describe specific things Wade has brought to your D?
4) Are you (the poster, not texans fans) in therapy? If not, am I going out on a limb in assuming I am not the first person to recommend it? No stigma or anything attached, as I believe it can be a great tool for self=reflection and improvement. Otherwise, what are you on and do you for a second believe we can’t get a hold of it in the great state of Florida (although I live in New York)? ;D
"The first thing I do when I get out of bed and feel the jolt in my knees is think of Roy Winston. On the second step, my calcified Adam's apple starts bobbing, and I think of Carl Eller. A few more steps in the dark and it's Willie Lanier. By the time I get to the bathroom, I'm flashing back to Dick Butkus and Ray Nitschke. And when the light finally comes on, I just hope that somewhere in the darkness they're thinking of me, too" - Larry Csonka.
He played before my time but one of the toughest SOBs to ever play!
1) Matt Schuab is a top 10 QB imho. His weakness is the deep ball, but he is one of the most accurate QBs in the league and is very smart. He will usually throw one really stupid pick a game though.
2) James Casey our TE/FB I think qualifies.
Stole the answers right out from under me.
3) An actual defined defensive scheme and being a proven DC. Frank Bush’s scheme, if it can be called that, were crayon drawings on the back of a bar napkin made when he spent late nights drinking with Kubes.
Anyways, Wade has a plan, knows what he is doing and has done it for years. He has done it for longer than many of our players were born, he knows his stuff.
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^Both responses are pretty accurate
a summation of what I typed below hah
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
Oh ... so he was the Dan Henning of defense??
Wait I thought Paul Pasqualoni was the Dan Henning of defense?
Prove everyone that said you weren't a franchise QB wrong, Henne. "WE WANT HENNE!!" GO PHINS!! What can I say I am a homer, I have come to terms with that and accepted it. I predict 10-6 and a wildcard berth. Jets got worse this year when they lost Ellis to the Patriots. The Patriots are going to be more solid on defense this year than they have in the past.
by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 15, 2011 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions
If those two guys are terrible, then yes they are like Frank Bush.
I have no idea who those guys are but I have heard bad things about paul.
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he sounds like a younger Chad Pennington?
Does that sound right?? minus the glass shoulder, glass knee, etc…
Prove everyone that said you weren't a franchise QB wrong, Henne. "WE WANT HENNE!!" GO PHINS!! What can I say I am a homer, I have come to terms with that and accepted it. I predict 10-6 and a wildcard berth. Jets got worse this year when they lost Ellis to the Patriots. The Patriots are going to be more solid on defense this year than they have in the past.
by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 15, 2011 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions
1) We’re pretty realistic when it comes to ranking Matt Schaub. The ones that looks at every thing through battle red colored glasses will rank him in the top five, while most of us would put him in the top 10.
As for his strengths, it would be his accuracy, toughness and resilience. He can run Kubiak’s offense with precision, and can step up to the plate when they need him to. The “injury-prone” was thrown around a couple years ago by BSPN and other traditional media, but what they left out was that the injuries Schaub suffered were due to illegal hits. Schaub can take a beating, and he even came back to win a game after having his shoulder popped back in.
His weaknesses are lack of arm strength and he’s liable to throw a bone-headed interception once in a while. A couple of people criticize Schaub for having a “noodle-arm” and claimed that if it wasn’t for him, Johnson would rack up more TD’s. But you can’t have your cake and have birthday sex too. What i’m trying to say is that, he doesn’t have a cannon-arm. But with this offense, he doesn’t need it.
2)Connor Barwin is one of those guys that doesn’t get a lot of hype from the media, but is well known by the fans. His season was cut short last year, but we expect him to garner a lot of attention from the league once he gets going this season.
Another one would be James Casey. He’s the reason why Vonta Leach was expendable. The guy can do everything. I’m not gonna elaborate because I might get a boner, so I’m gonna let somebody else do all the praising of James Casey.
3)Defensive Coaching. You’re probably looking at me like I’m stupid because Wade is a Defensive Coordinator and that’s what he was hired for. But what you don’t understand is that our previous DC didn’t do any of that. The reason why our secondary was ranked last in 2010 is because he told our DB’s to just “do their thing” out there. No coaching whatsoever. And Wade brings that to the table.
Another one would be an aggressive attitude. We’re not used to seeing a lot of pressure from our front seven, and he’s not even doing anything fancy yet.
4)No, i’m not. And yes, you’re not the first person to recommend it. And yes, I can send some your way. I’ll throw a bottle of it in the Gulf and hope that it reaches you up there in NY!
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
"But you can’t have your cake and have birthday sex too"
totally false. Blowing out the candles is a bit tricky, but not impossible.
Thanks for the answers. All of you.
"The first thing I do when I get out of bed and feel the jolt in my knees is think of Roy Winston. On the second step, my calcified Adam's apple starts bobbing, and I think of Carl Eller. A few more steps in the dark and it's Willie Lanier. By the time I get to the bathroom, I'm flashing back to Dick Butkus and Ray Nitschke. And when the light finally comes on, I just hope that somewhere in the darkness they're thinking of me, too" - Larry Csonka.
He played before my time but one of the toughest SOBs to ever play!
Are you talking to me?
Or the other me. Can’t force my other personalities to come out, but when they do; I’ll tell them to seek help
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
LOL
Definitely not the other you. That bastard owes me money.
"The first thing I do when I get out of bed and feel the jolt in my knees is think of Roy Winston. On the second step, my calcified Adam's apple starts bobbing, and I think of Carl Eller. A few more steps in the dark and it's Willie Lanier. By the time I get to the bathroom, I'm flashing back to Dick Butkus and Ray Nitschke. And when the light finally comes on, I just hope that somewhere in the darkness they're thinking of me, too" - Larry Csonka.
He played before my time but one of the toughest SOBs to ever play!
Yo, brotha from another blogger
I don’t owe you jack isht!
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
#2...
Bryan Braman. dude got busted for possession of Psilocybin mushrooms a few years back which is friggin AWESOME. lol
"my momma was the Mike Vick of ass whuppin. side arm delivery, no wasted motion.. and very mobile." - @doobieman21
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Wow! That brings me back...
"The first thing I do when I get out of bed and feel the jolt in my knees is think of Roy Winston. On the second step, my calcified Adam's apple starts bobbing, and I think of Carl Eller. A few more steps in the dark and it's Willie Lanier. By the time I get to the bathroom, I'm flashing back to Dick Butkus and Ray Nitschke. And when the light finally comes on, I just hope that somewhere in the darkness they're thinking of me, too" - Larry Csonka.
He played before my time but one of the toughest SOBs to ever play!
To yesterday?
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
by Jordann on Sep 15, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
rec'd
which is not a denial nor a confirmation
"The first thing I do when I get out of bed and feel the jolt in my knees is think of Roy Winston. On the second step, my calcified Adam's apple starts bobbing, and I think of Carl Eller. A few more steps in the dark and it's Willie Lanier. By the time I get to the bathroom, I'm flashing back to Dick Butkus and Ray Nitschke. And when the light finally comes on, I just hope that somewhere in the darkness they're thinking of me, too" - Larry Csonka.
He played before my time but one of the toughest SOBs to ever play!
You've been holding out on people, haven't you?
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
shhh....
"The first thing I do when I get out of bed and feel the jolt in my knees is think of Roy Winston. On the second step, my calcified Adam's apple starts bobbing, and I think of Carl Eller. A few more steps in the dark and it's Willie Lanier. By the time I get to the bathroom, I'm flashing back to Dick Butkus and Ray Nitschke. And when the light finally comes on, I just hope that somewhere in the darkness they're thinking of me, too" - Larry Csonka.
He played before my time but one of the toughest SOBs to ever play!
Long time listener, first time caller
I was wondering, is it true that Mario Williams has had a terrible time making the move to OLB? Have you guys considered trading him?
I’m going to hang up and listen to my answer. Thanks.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Sep 15, 2011 1:47 AM EDT reply actions 4 recs
Should've taken Reggie Bush with the 1st pick overall!
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
We have this outside linebacker with a ridiculously long name that was drafted in the 2nd round last year...
But you can call him Koa Misi(shortened).
We will do a straight up trade....
follow up with Jeff Ireland… I am sure he would be mildly interested…
Prove everyone that said you weren't a franchise QB wrong, Henne. "WE WANT HENNE!!" GO PHINS!! What can I say I am a homer, I have come to terms with that and accepted it. I predict 10-6 and a wildcard berth. Jets got worse this year when they lost Ellis to the Patriots. The Patriots are going to be more solid on defense this year than they have in the past.
by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 15, 2011 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Another question
Does Kubiak/Schaub like to run the hurry up offense? How effective at it are you guys?
"The first thing I do when I get out of bed and feel the jolt in my knees is think of Roy Winston. On the second step, my calcified Adam's apple starts bobbing, and I think of Carl Eller. A few more steps in the dark and it's Willie Lanier. By the time I get to the bathroom, I'm flashing back to Dick Butkus and Ray Nitschke. And when the light finally comes on, I just hope that somewhere in the darkness they're thinking of me, too" - Larry Csonka.
He played before my time but one of the toughest SOBs to ever play!
We don't run no huddle much, but do tend to snap the ball quickly.
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Sep 17, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah...
our hurry up offense is still really slow. even in the 2 minute drill we never really act like we’re in a rush to do anything.
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Hola Texans!!!
Few questions for you guys:
1. Why did matt schaub suck so bad in fantasy year. I had him in 09, and liked his performance so I decided to keep him, before he lacklusterly (I made this up, so what?) decided to crap on my team by throwing dumb ints and not enough td’s. Therefore my team has been renamed (there is no more ‘take me to the candy schaub’) and I have decided to roll with stafford, whom is my new fantasy love child.
2. What do u guys feel about jason allen? He was always a likable guy and a STUD on ST, but so much of a liability on D that he really wasn’t worth the money as a first round uber bust. I’m glad he found a home there, but ill admit we were as pissed as you guys when he shit the bed covering santonio last year, trust me. Wtf jason, you’re still not on our team and STILL fucking us.
3. Andre johnson is awesome. As much of a BMarsh stalker I am, ill admit id rather have andre than any other WR since Moss in his prime, maybe even over him bc his demeanor. Him fighting cortland was classic. How important do you think an Andre Johnson is truly to your team? Would you rather have a stud RB? Oh you have one of those too? Well son of a bitch…
That’s it, good luck, I like the texans and always root for them as a afc darkhorse despite the fact that we can’t beat you. In fact, you might be surprised to hear that my preseason prediction was that the Texans will finish with the BEST record in the AFC, despite the AFC South finishing with the worst collective record in the conference (this was made due to peytons injury btw). Most people don’t agree with me here but I see you guys finishing with 12-14 wins before losing your first playoff game in an upset at home (sorry).
I think Hou will key off in what NE did last week on us and try to come out firing to build that early lead on us that they have done so often. I expect the Texans to win an exciting shootout 35-31. I’m not being negative fins fans, I feel as if houston gets us here, but still think we will bounce back strong and have a solid year.
However, as many nice things I can say about you guys Houston, I wish you a good healthy game, but I’m hoping we kick your ass lol. My ex is a texans fan (because Matt Lienart is cute, SMH) so a win would all but guarentee me saying some smart ass inappropriate comment that I’m so good at lol.
GO FINS!
Laces out!
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BRANDON MARSHALL- FUTURE MIAMI HOF WR!!!!!
Tom Brandstater- more TD's than completions. Last person to tell him that's not possible, well, nobody has seen him since.
by BSerious72 on Sep 15, 2011 8:44 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Good questions
1) I’m no fantasy geek, but I’d guess it was because in 2009 we had no running game, so Schaub threw for a lot more tds, but in 2010 we had Arian Foster who ran for a lot of scores. Also, Schaub does tend to throw the odd pick from time to time.
2) Jason Allen is a good addition, but let’s face it, he only looks good because, until this year, we had a bunch of rotting corpses playing defensive back. He seems to be splitting time with Kareem “I fall over” Jackson at CB2. It’s too early to tell how well this will work out, since we played a team with a bad passing game last weekend. In any event, our secondary will be better than it was last year because a) we have J. Joseph and D. Manning back there now; and b) our new defensive coordinator does not get easily distracted by shiny objects.
3) Yes, Andre is awesome. I’m quite certain that several BRB regulars would volunteer to have his children. Andre is very important to the team, however people who think he is a one-man show are mistaken. We have a lot of weapons, including our TEs (three of whom are capable of going off) and of course the Pterodactyl. As a side note, I advise you to watch our two and three TE sets closely. We are very productive in them, especially with the play action game.
Thanks for the kind words; right back at you. Here’s to a good game with no injuries.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Sep 15, 2011 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions
we can use a TE
We will trade you nolan caroll for one?
Laces out!
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BRANDON MARSHALL- FUTURE MIAMI HOF WR!!!!!
Tom Brandstater- more TD's than completions. Last person to tell him that's not possible, well, nobody has seen him since.
by BSerious72 on Sep 15, 2011 10:16 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
^^THIS ...
And Benny Sapp…. We would also like to add that both of those corners are better and more productive than Jason Allen….
Prove everyone that said you weren't a franchise QB wrong, Henne. "WE WANT HENNE!!" GO PHINS!! What can I say I am a homer, I have come to terms with that and accepted it. I predict 10-6 and a wildcard berth. Jets got worse this year when they lost Ellis to the Patriots. The Patriots are going to be more solid on defense this year than they have in the past.
by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 15, 2011 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions
You have a guy that falls over on ever huge play in his direction??
I mean… you have Jason Allen … but you have another guy that does the same exact thing??
Prove everyone that said you weren't a franchise QB wrong, Henne. "WE WANT HENNE!!" GO PHINS!! What can I say I am a homer, I have come to terms with that and accepted it. I predict 10-6 and a wildcard berth. Jets got worse this year when they lost Ellis to the Patriots. The Patriots are going to be more solid on defense this year than they have in the past.
by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 15, 2011 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Jason Allen is doubly better
Don’t know if “doubly” is a word, but he is. And it’s sad.
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
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-Catch 22-
3....
besides Demeco Ryans, i would say that Andre Johnson is the heart and soul of our squad. he’s the engine that makes the car go.
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Le me guess......
texans have been running nothing but hurry up offense and 2 minute drills in practice. In preperTion for the dolphins.
"The Reggie Bush Experience" coming this fall !
get used to the name of Owen Daniels and Joel Dressen...
they’re our tight ends. lol
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Lol, ugh!..... Another fast athletic TE.
"The Reggie Bush Experience" coming this fall !
by sonnycrockett on Sep 15, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
we have 4!
Graham and Casey are unproven but Casey will be used more this year(we actually converted him to FB this offseason but we like to motion him out to all sorts of places).
exactly.
a lot of people projected OD to have a pro bowl year, until he was injured. seems like he’s pretty much back at 100% so hopefully he can fufill his potential.. starting against you guys. i got him on my fantasy team so fingers crossed.
no offense miami fans.
lol
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Jordann, good to see ya man.
Hey, I got that boxer named Baxter you wanted, but I’m still waiting for you guys to deliver Andre Johnson to the Dolphins.
Anywho, with you guys transitioning over to a 3-4 D, how has it been looking? Does it look like you might have some issues by not having a big nose tackle? I know Wade is familiar with the not quite as big, but faster, nose tackles like he had in Jay Ratliff back in Dallas, but do you think that is going to be more of a liability than a benefit?
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That trade is still in review.
You can always sweeten the deal by adding a case of beer! Preferably dark.
The D looks great. As I said, it’s a major upgrade to what we had last year. A defensive coordinator that actually knows what he’s doing is quite a breath of fresh air. More aggressive front seven that plays to the strength of our key players.
There’s definitely some issues with our NT. And I agree that the middle of the defense(NT, ILB) is a liability. We have a big bag of suck in Shaun Cody and an unproven player in Earl Mitchell. Most of us have been lusting for a space-eating, planetoid NT; but you can’t always get what you want. And the DC’s that we’ve had always favored smaller DT’s. The same goes with Wade. As you mentioned, he’s a proponent of a smaller, but faster NT that can disrupt the rhythm of the opposing offense. I believe that this will be a bigger issue than our secondary this season, with opponents exposing that weakness in the middle by running it up the gut.
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
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-Catch 22-
Time for Bush and Fasano to step up, then.
Which is sad because Fasano has sucked most of PS and was only solid in week 1.
Bush on the other hand has been awesome when given a crease to run through.
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Good, cheap FA upgrades out there: Gurode, E. Royster, L. Sheppard, J. KirkPatrick, K. O'Dowd, D. Thomas, D. Avery. Dolphins not pulling their weight: B. Sapp, J. Jerry, I. Alama-Francis, M. Columbo.
Hard to say not knowing Wake
but Mario is as physically gifted as seemingly anyone on the planet. He is finally healthy after fighting a bum shoulder in 09 and a sports hernia(?) last year, and even with those injuries still has around 20 sacks the last two years. He looks great so far this year.
wow...
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by i bleed for phins...no really! on Sep 15, 2011 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Sounds like homerism, I know
But it’s highly possible.
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
its not like he hasn't done it before
last time he was fully healthy he had 14, the year before that 12
this has all happened before and will all happen again
I've been a fan of Cameron Wake since last season
After seeing a couple of Dolphins-Patriots game. He’s relentless and talented. Scary combination.
I don’t want to sound like i’m tooting my own horn here, but I think that Mario is better than Wake. He’s one heck of a physical specimen (6’6, 280lbs) that can unleash havoc against the opposing team. Not everything shows up in the stat-sheet for him, but he’s definitely worth that 1st overall pick back in 06.
As nolander said, he’s been fighting injuries ever since he started. But that’s never stopped him from putting up above-average numbers. He’s healthy this year, and with a pretty good supporting cast, offensive coordinators are going to have a hard time singling him out and focusing their game plan on him.
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
Do u think after watching the dolphins nationally
That the texans fans think we should be handled easily like the colts in your last game or are taking us lightly. Certain DB’s were getting torched by Brady but what ppl fail to realize is, before the cramping issue began, it was 21-17 with 2 minutes left in 3rd QTR.
If there was a matchup we can exploit, what would it be?
"The Reggie Bush Experience" coming this fall !
Not too much.
Personally I think this is going to be a good game. Our perceived strengths against your perceived strength, and the same for weaknesses. Our Juggernaut offense against your defense that was top 10 last year and our in transition defense versus your still working to get it together offense.
As far as what you can exploit, Wades D is historically weak against runs up the middle, especially if Shaun Cody is playing. I can’t really tell what other weaknesses our defense has because we still don’t even know.
Now offensive weakness, and there are “some” ;). Eric Winston has been struggling against faster Pass Rushers so if Cameron Wake is fast (I’ll admit, I don’t know much about him) then you should definitely attack him.
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He learned his pass rushing moves in Canada where they have 1 yard between the offensive and defensive lines...
He isn’t anywhere near the monster that Mario is… but he is definitely a speed rusher.
Prove everyone that said you weren't a franchise QB wrong, Henne. "WE WANT HENNE!!" GO PHINS!! What can I say I am a homer, I have come to terms with that and accepted it. I predict 10-6 and a wildcard berth. Jets got worse this year when they lost Ellis to the Patriots. The Patriots are going to be more solid on defense this year than they have in the past.
by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 15, 2011 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions
As Texans fans, we rarely take other teams lightly.
Call us damaged, and we probably won’t deny it. The only reason we thought that the Texans could handle the Colts easily was because of the Manning injury. He’s been a pain in our necks(pun!) ever since the inception of this franchise.
I don’t think that it’ll be a cake-walk going against the Dolphins. It rarely is, but we seem to pull through every time. The offense always have problems against a 3-4 defense, but I just have this gut feeling(homerism) that we’ll pull through once again.
If there’s something that the Dolphins can exploit, it will be the middle of our defense. We don’t have a reliable NT and our ILB’s are under-performing. A power-running offense can take advantage of it by running it up the middle.
But from my understanding, Reggie Bush is the starting RB for the Dolphins. And he can’t run between tackles. So maybe some screen passes to take advantage of the texan’s aggressiveness would be the way to go.
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
jordann is right.
we always assume the worst, and are amused when stuff DOESN’T fall apart. how we’ve been able to beat you guys every year is a friggin mystery.
"my momma was the Mike Vick of ass whuppin. side arm delivery, no wasted motion.. and very mobile." - @doobieman21
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If I recall, we had some success early against NE in the middle of the field too
But for some reason gave up on it
"The first thing I do when I get out of bed and feel the jolt in my knees is think of Roy Winston. On the second step, my calcified Adam's apple starts bobbing, and I think of Carl Eller. A few more steps in the dark and it's Willie Lanier. By the time I get to the bathroom, I'm flashing back to Dick Butkus and Ray Nitschke. And when the light finally comes on, I just hope that somewhere in the darkness they're thinking of me, too" - Larry Csonka.
He played before my time but one of the toughest SOBs to ever play!
We didn't get the push we got in the first half.
That’s why. Also, we were playing catch up.
Mercenaries never die. They just go to hell to regroup. - Unknown. I dont always make paradoxes, but when i do, i don't.- Brock Obama. Leading the fighter escort of SU-47s for the Lindley Bandwagon. Leader and Founder of the Ray Ray Armstrong for 2012 Bandwagon "pm striker king"- WZB.
Good, cheap FA upgrades out there: Gurode, E. Royster, L. Sheppard, J. KirkPatrick, K. O'Dowd, D. Thomas, D. Avery. Dolphins not pulling their weight: B. Sapp, J. Jerry, I. Alama-Francis, M. Columbo.
A few questions, Jordann
1.) How do Texans fans feel about Jason Allen? He was the interception champion for the Dolphins last year despite only playing in just a few games. I know that you addressed Jason Allen in another question, but what I want to know is do fans generally believe that he has a chance to develop into a starting quality corner?
2.) How is Brandon Harris looking? He’s a talented kid and I feel like he could develop into a top-level cover corner.
3.) What about Darryl Sharpton? Is the switch to 3-4 going to hurt him?
4.) What is the general feeling about Brian Cushing? Is he ever going to become the impact player that he was before being busted for PEDs?
5.) How do fans feel about Kubiak? Has he been criticized as heavily as Sparano?
6.) When you wave like a retard, do you wave both your hands wildly or just awkwardly wave with one hand? It wasn’t clear in the post.
1) I’m a big fan of Jason Allen too. He helped out our 32nd ranked pass defense last year. That might seem like sarcasm, but it’s not. IMO, he was the second best corner we had last year. Next to Glover Quinn who is now a safety.
I do believe that he can be a starting-quality corner with the right coaching and scheme, but not good enough to cover a WR1. He’s definitely a ball-hawk, but he takes too many chances. I would slot him as a CB2, but if there was a better option; I’d prefer to see him in the nickel or dime packages exclusively.
2) When the Texans moved up in the second rd to draft Harris, I was ecstatic! I’ve focused a lot on CB’s during the draft, and I felt like he’d be a perfect fit for the Texans. I even wanted us to say “fack it” and reach for Harris with our 1st rd pick because we needed so much help in the secondary. Right now, he’s slotted as a Nickel CB. I’m pretty sure that we’ll eventually see him as a CB2 this season, depending on how he progresses. He was great during camp, picking off Schaub multiples times and returning it for a TD. If the Jason Allen/Kareem Jackson experiment doesn’t work, I feel like we can rely on B-Harr to take over CB2 duties.
3)All our our ILB’s are going through a learning curve right now with this switch to a 3-4 defense. Sharpton is the back up to both of our ILB’s from what I recall. He was average during the pre-season, but I expect him to fight for more playing time as the season goes on. The switch to 3-4 neutralized the strengths of our DeMeco Ryans and Brian Cushing. They’re being asked to cover more, and I think that’s their major weakness. But it’s really too early to tell.
4)I’ve been avoiding all the Cushing talk that goes on in our site lately, because I really don’t have a lot of nice things to say about him. I don’t think that his fantastic rookie season should be attributed to the use of PEDs(it was never proven, btw). He’s just going through a transition right now. If anybody can turn Cushing into a success, it would be Wade.
5)One thing goes wrong, even if it’s not Kubiak’s fault, you’ll start seeing “FIRE KUBIAK NOW” comments and posts. It’s sad, really. I’m a big fan of Kubiak, but a lot of people that he can’t lead us to the promise land. I’m not going to preemptively defend him, so all I’m going to say is that I am a big fan of him. And I believe that he’s the right coach for the Texans. Not very acquainted with the Sparano situation, would you mind elaborating?
6)I wave with two hands, jumping up and down, wearing a panda suit. With the zipper down. I can be more specific, if you’d like!
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
Don't listen to him
That guy doesn’t know what he’s talking about!
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
That just makes me more curious
"The first thing I do when I get out of bed and feel the jolt in my knees is think of Roy Winston. On the second step, my calcified Adam's apple starts bobbing, and I think of Carl Eller. A few more steps in the dark and it's Willie Lanier. By the time I get to the bathroom, I'm flashing back to Dick Butkus and Ray Nitschke. And when the light finally comes on, I just hope that somewhere in the darkness they're thinking of me, too" - Larry Csonka.
He played before my time but one of the toughest SOBs to ever play!
It's never been mine
It’s just a rental
"The first thing I do when I get out of bed and feel the jolt in my knees is think of Roy Winston. On the second step, my calcified Adam's apple starts bobbing, and I think of Carl Eller. A few more steps in the dark and it's Willie Lanier. By the time I get to the bathroom, I'm flashing back to Dick Butkus and Ray Nitschke. And when the light finally comes on, I just hope that somewhere in the darkness they're thinking of me, too" - Larry Csonka.
He played before my time but one of the toughest SOBs to ever play!
The Kubiak situation sounds a lot like the Sparano situation.
Steven Ross didn’t help the situation by publicly courting Jim Harbaugh. It couldn’t be more obvious that Sparano is in the hot seat, and that fact is reflected in the opinions of Dolfans. I guess the real question is, where does Kubiak stand in the eyes of the front office? What does it take for him to return in 2012?
by DolfanVince86 on Sep 15, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
BTW
My only question about the retard wave is are you jumping up and down on both legs or alternating from one leg to the other?
by DolfanVince86 on Sep 15, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Personally, I don't think it matters as long as you are drooling and wearing a helmet
Laces out!
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BRANDON MARSHALL- FUTURE MIAMI HOF WR!!!!!
Tom Brandstater- more TD's than completions. Last person to tell him that's not possible, well, nobody has seen him since.
It's not a helmet
It’s a panda head!
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
Sexual Harrassment Panda?

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by Chupathingy on Sep 15, 2011 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWywHqHCrSA
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
This is a put up or shut up year for kubiak
I think he kept his job by brining in Wade this year, and unless they make the playoffs he is probably gone.
I always thought they should have moved him back to FS...
He plays like a FS.. not a cover corner… plain and simple
Prove everyone that said you weren't a franchise QB wrong, Henne. "WE WANT HENNE!!" GO PHINS!! What can I say I am a homer, I have come to terms with that and accepted it. I predict 10-6 and a wildcard berth. Jets got worse this year when they lost Ellis to the Patriots. The Patriots are going to be more solid on defense this year than they have in the past.
by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 15, 2011 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions
We were hungry for some good corner play last season
He showed some flashes, and he got the job. But as you already know, he’s not really consistent.
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
Let's see:
1. Allen has played well for us. He had a very good training camp, and played pretty well against Indy. He could be our #2 CB if Kareem Jackson doesn’t get it together.
2. Harris played extremely well in preseason. I think only 2 balls were thrown to his man, and one of them was a bad throw due to good coverage. He’s looked good on special teams, but he won’t likely get playing time on the defense, unless there is an injury. Not on him, but our dime CB, Brice McCain, has been surprisingly good.
3. I think Sharpton is going to excel in the 3-4. He had a good camp, and was impressive in preseason. He needs to work on his coverage against TEs and RBs, but his ability to shoot gaps is impressive. He’s good against the run.
4. He looked good against Indy. Made some nice open field tackles, and took good angles on running plays. He’s also looked very good when blitzing. When he does, he’s picked up by RBs, who get pushed back by a few yeards, collapsing the pocket. He looks a lot more explosive this year.
5. We generally don’t like him. We’re satisfied with hiring Wade over firing Kubiak, but we, or at least I, still do not like him.
6. You wave with one hand.
"Hakeem couldn't kick your ass cuz you were too
close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.
by bone31crusher on Sep 17, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
For the teams that have stopped or slowed down the Texans' offense...
how did they do it? Or did the Texans shoot themselves in the foot?
Definition: scatback, n., an offensive back in football who is elusive and fast. Out with the WILDCAT...and in with the WILD-SCAT:
WR _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ LT LG C RG RT TE _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ <;- - - - - - - - - - - - - SC _ _ _ _ _ WR
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ RB _ _QB (Henne) . . . . . . . . . . \_ SC = Bush/Moore/Gates
I don't remember the texans offense slowing down.
They would usually start slow and then fire on all cylinders. There were only two times that I remember when the Texans offense got slowed down. It was against the Giants and the Colts(2nd game) last season. And that was because the team came out flat, and never got into a rhythm.
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
So that would be pressure on the CB without a heavy blitz?
Mercenaries never die. They just go to hell to regroup. - Unknown. I dont always make paradoxes, but when i do, i don't.- Brock Obama. Leading the fighter escort of SU-47s for the Lindley Bandwagon. Leader and Founder of the Ray Ray Armstrong for 2012 Bandwagon "pm striker king"- WZB.
Good, cheap FA upgrades out there: Gurode, E. Royster, L. Sheppard, J. KirkPatrick, K. O'Dowd, D. Thomas, D. Avery. Dolphins not pulling their weight: B. Sapp, J. Jerry, I. Alama-Francis, M. Columbo.
the Giants last year were the last team I remember defending the Texans effectively,
and to be honest, I’m not sure how they did it.
A big part of the success of the Texans offense is its unpredictability. They tend to run out of pass formations and vice versa often enough that it’s really difficult to tell what’s coming from the personnel on the field or the formations. This is also what makes the play action game work well, even in past years where the Texans were not strong in the run game.
The Giants were able to read what play was coming very effectively, seemingly ready to shut down exactly what was called even before the snap. I’m not sure how they did it, whether it was some sort of cue or “tell” that they were picking up on, or if they just did an excellent job reacting quickly once the play began to develop. Our former backup QB, Sage Rosenfels, was a backup for the Giants last year, and there’s a contingent of people that felt he was able to provide some inside info to the Giants that may have helped. I personally think that’s a load of crap, but you never know.
There are also the scattered games where the Texans just never seem to get going offensively, though I think that’s less about the defense they’re facing, and more about just having an off day.
We mainly shoot ourselves in the foot.
Bad playcalling has been a problem, and our offense doesn’t want to ‘turn it on’ on certain drives, for some reason. But when Schaub is in rhythym, we can’t be stopped.
"Hakeem couldn't kick your ass cuz you were too
close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.
by bone31crusher on Sep 17, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
this sounds like us last year.
The choices you make dictate the life you lead. -Greydanus. Two roads diverged in a wood, and I - I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference. - Robert Frost. Leading the fighter escort of SU-47s for the Lindley Bandwagon. Leader and Founder of the Ray Ray Armstrong for 2012 Bandwagon "pm striker king"- WZB. Good, cheap FA upgrades out there: Gurode, E. Royster, L. Sheppard, J. KirkPatrick, K. O'Dowd, D. Thomas. Dolphins not pulling their weight: J. Jerry, I. Alama-Francis, M. Columbo.
Some questions
1. Is the RT any good against speed rushers? Or is he better against power guys?
2. How are your safeties? If they’re susceptible to be getting caught out of position watch out because we’re going to unleash Clyde Gates, who runs a 4.37 and gets deep consistently.
3. Does Matt Schaub struggle when pressure gets to him or does he handle it well?
4. What do you think will struggle more this season: Your run defense or your pass defense?
I got S + What a Dog's Tail Does.
One of them "Young Guns"
2. I don’t really know, our safeties are both new. GQ was a corner last year and Manning played for the Bears, but Manning is hella fast, so I think he can keep up with recievers going deep.
3. Not really, though he has been known to hang onto the ball too long sometimes.
4. Pass defense. Maybe. We are soft at NT and our ILBs are unproven in a 3-4. Then again our 2nd 3rd and 4th corners are all unproven in any scheme so…
this has all happened before and will all happen again
2. Speed has nothing to do with getting beat deep as a S. You just have to be smart.
Mercenaries never die. They just go to hell to regroup. - Unknown. I dont always make paradoxes, but when i do, i don't.- Brock Obama. Leading the fighter escort of SU-47s for the Lindley Bandwagon. Leader and Founder of the Ray Ray Armstrong for 2012 Bandwagon "pm striker king"- WZB.
Good, cheap FA upgrades out there: Gurode, E. Royster, L. Sheppard, J. KirkPatrick, K. O'Dowd, D. Thomas, D. Avery. Dolphins not pulling their weight: B. Sapp, J. Jerry, I. Alama-Francis, M. Columbo.
1. Winston has had some trouble with Robert Mathis over the past few years, especially last year. So yeah, he’s better against power guys.
2. Our safeties are good. GQ has very good instincts and can wrap up very well, and Manning can cover A LOT of ground if necessary.
3. It depends on where the pressure is coming from. If it’s up the middle, he’s done. If it’s on the edge, he’ll step up in the pocket. We haven’t had a lot of instances where he’s under pressure, mainly because we have one of the best pass blocking units in the NFL, so it’s hard to say.
4. Run defense. Our NT Shaun Cody is pathetic. Our best NT, Earl Mitchell, is dealing with an injury. He’s around Jay Ratliff’s size, but like Ratliff, he gets very good penetration. Same can’t be said for Cody, unfortunately.
"Hakeem couldn't kick your ass cuz you were too
close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.
by bone31crusher on Sep 17, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
How is Jason Allen doing? Still sucking ass?
2010 The Jim Mandich NewsFlash Award Winner.
Miss the misery.
Need a reason for a change.
Need a reason to explain.
So turn it on again.
Don't change your mind.
You're wasting light.
more than ever
Mercenaries never die. They just go to hell to regroup. - Unknown. I dont always make paradoxes, but when i do, i don't.- Brock Obama. Leading the fighter escort of SU-47s for the Lindley Bandwagon. Leader and Founder of the Ray Ray Armstrong for 2012 Bandwagon "pm striker king"- WZB.
Good, cheap FA upgrades out there: Gurode, E. Royster, L. Sheppard, J. KirkPatrick, K. O'Dowd, D. Thomas, D. Avery. Dolphins not pulling their weight: B. Sapp, J. Jerry, I. Alama-Francis, M. Columbo.
Yes, but in Houston "sucking ass" is a euphemism for "pushing for the #2 CB spot"
He’s behind a third-year guy, Brice McCain, for the nickel spot now actually.
Sadly, we know what that is like from other positions here.
"The first thing I do when I get out of bed and feel the jolt in my knees is think of Roy Winston. On the second step, my calcified Adam's apple starts bobbing, and I think of Carl Eller. A few more steps in the dark and it's Willie Lanier. By the time I get to the bathroom, I'm flashing back to Dick Butkus and Ray Nitschke. And when the light finally comes on, I just hope that somewhere in the darkness they're thinking of me, too" - Larry Csonka.
He played before my time but one of the toughest SOBs to ever play!
It is pretty sad...
When the 73rd ranked CB in the NFL (Allen) is pushing the 83rd ranked CB in the NFL (Jackson) for the #2 CB position. There were only 83 CBs ranked…
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
Not really.
He could be doing worse.
And no, he’s not behind Brice McCain, he’s the nickel.
"Hakeem couldn't kick your ass cuz you were too
close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.
by bone31crusher on Sep 17, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
how many times have you seen him slip and fall?
2010 The Jim Mandich NewsFlash Award Winner.
Miss the misery.
Need a reason for a change.
Need a reason to explain.
So turn it on again.
Don't change your mind.
You're wasting light.
Actually, he has yet to slip and fall.
He hasn’t been burned that many times, like Kareem Jackson has.
He might let his man get an inch or two of separation from him, but for the most part, he stays with his man.
He’s been impressive ever since he came here.
"Hakeem couldn't kick your ass cuz you were too
close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.
by bone31crusher on Sep 17, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions
except in the final moments against the Jets, dang it!
Definition: scatback, n., an offensive back in football who is elusive and fast. Out with the WILDCAT...and in with the WILD-SCAT:
WR _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ LT LG C RG RT TE _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ <;- - - - - - - - - - - - - SC _ _ _ _ _ WR
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ RB _ _QB (Henne) . . . . . . . . . . \_ SC = Bush/Moore/Gates
He did that to to get us...
"The first thing I do when I get out of bed and feel the jolt in my knees is think of Roy Winston. On the second step, my calcified Adam's apple starts bobbing, and I think of Carl Eller. A few more steps in the dark and it's Willie Lanier. By the time I get to the bathroom, I'm flashing back to Dick Butkus and Ray Nitschke. And when the light finally comes on, I just hope that somewhere in the darkness they're thinking of me, too" - Larry Csonka.
He played before my time but one of the toughest SOBs to ever play!
I didn't check the depth chart before typing that, so I'm sure you're right
but it seems like I’ve seen Mccain on the field more

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