Armando Salguero is a useless git.
by urbino on Aug 5, 2011 6:10 PM EDT
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PrintOn the NFL channel on Sirius a little while ago, the host (dunno which one, they all sound alike to me) set up a segment on the Dolphins by saying everything is terrible in Miami: the owner is terrible, the FO is terrible, the coaches are terrible, the offense is terrible. Those are his words, almost verbatim.
He then brought Armando on to discuss the details. Did Armando correct any of that nonsense? No. Did he even attempt to provide a more balanced view? No. The setup told him what the host wanted him to do, and he obeyed. He crapped on everything about the Dolphins. Everything.
After the conversation we've had recently about the lousy coverage the Dolphins get from the national media, Armando's performance really hit a sore spot. If your own local media isn't prepared to correct the national media's errors, why ask the national media to get better?
Thanks for nothing, Armando. You've demonstrated once again that while you are a gifted self-promoter, you're a lousy excuse for a reporter.
Pardon the screed, Phinsiders. Had to get that off my chest.
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Arrmando is pretty bad
He posted a couple days ago that “Orton will be our starting QB for sure” when the deal was already dead
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Rec'd....what a joke.
Don't tell me Miami has no O. We've got Colombo and Fasano and Sparano!
Chad Henne is 7 feet tall and consumes DBs with fireballs from his eyes and lightning bolts from his ass.
You're welcome Urbino. This is going to be one interesting year.
Don't tell me Miami has no O. We've got Colombo and Fasano and Sparano!
Chad Henne is 7 feet tall and consumes DBs with fireballs from his eyes and lightning bolts from his ass.
Rec'd as well
Cant stand the guy, its a shame that he was even able to find a job in the media with how terrible he is. I can wholeheartedly say If I were walking down the street and he was walking by Id kick him square in the jewels
by AcolyteofRa on Aug 5, 2011 6:24 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
rec'd before i even read it haha
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by NickCallaway on Aug 5, 2011 6:26 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
rec'd for taking the words right out of mouth
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He played before my time but one of the toughest SOBs to ever play!
Ha! I certainly didn’t expect this bit of venting to go green, but thanks, everybody.
Chad Henne took the Lindbergh baby!
Consider it a protest :P
Don't tell me Miami has no O. We've got Colombo and Fasano and Sparano!
Chad Henne is 7 feet tall and consumes DBs with fireballs from his eyes and lightning bolts from his ass.
Mondo sucks, nuf said!
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by Dolfan88 on Aug 5, 2011 7:52 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Maybe Kdog Can Do a Post on Mondo?
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The owner is terrible, the FO is terrible, the coaches are terrible, the offense is terrible.
As of today, which part of this is inaccurate? I agree that terrible might be too strong a word. But until they (ownership, FO, offensive coaching staff) prove otherwise, they have a lot to prove.
"It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing." MACBETH
"Walter, I love you, but sooner or later, you're going to have to face the fact you're a goddamn moron." THE DUDE (The Big Lebowski)
You're right. The FO really had a solid talent base to work with after 2007.
What kind of terrible front office brings in these kind of bums: Dansby, Marshall, Long, Starks, Langford, Smith & Davis, Bess, Carpenter….
Seriously. Take a look at the Bengals. Now there is a truly terrible Front Office.
Oh I know
and then bringing in awful players like Wake, Burnett, Jones, Hartline, McDanniel, Gates and Bush? they are just horrible aren’t they? and then look at how bad the development was on Soliai and others on the Defense? oh wait this isn’t backwards land. We are stacked with young up and coming players and it is all thanks to our FO, did they make every single move possible to make the team better? No, but this is not Madden. Have they been steadily improving our team and setting us up to be contenders year after year after year? Yes Yes they have
by AcolyteofRa on Aug 5, 2011 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Thank you!
How would all the haters react if we did sign Orton for around $10 mil year?
They would probably hate that, too.
Yep we would be doomed
see because our name is the dolphins that automatically gives us 12 losses and since our coaches and FO is SOOOO bad they will try to take to the field and lose the other four. Thats the way it goes ya know lol
On top of that
Replacing the old OC with a young and talented mind, taking responsibility and accepting that they have to reinvigorate the offense, while at the same time having the balls to take a risk on a relative unknown. Ross and Ireland are like the dumb and dumber of the National Football League. Gotta be.
Don't tell me Miami has no O. We've got Colombo and Fasano and Sparano!
Chad Henne is 7 feet tall and consumes DBs with fireballs from his eyes and lightning bolts from his ass.
by BravePhin on Aug 5, 2011 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I know its awful
the only way we could have possibly been successful is to go out and get an OC older then Fossil was, if he is not in a coffin he wouldn’t have the experience to lead this offense. Then we would have to fire our coach and just let Ross call the plays yep thats what we would have to do. There are a couple of moves I wish they would have made but as a whole I think this team is definetly heading in the right direction and we are staged to have quite the year with a little luck Im stoked
by AcolyteofRa on Aug 5, 2011 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Me too, man, me too.
I am really high on the team right now, highest I’ve ever been. With the returning defense and addition of Burnett, with the improved RBs and our WRs all back. The only trouble spots are the O-line and the QB, and we’ve upgraded the line a little bit and Henne has showed maturity and improved leadership throughout the lockout and third years are a charm for many a great signal caller.
Our weakest link is the position that teams need to be the strongest, but if Henne fails we’re just one acquisition from being spectacular because most of the rest of the pieces are all in place.
Don't tell me Miami has no O. We've got Colombo and Fasano and Sparano!
Chad Henne is 7 feet tall and consumes DBs with fireballs from his eyes and lightning bolts from his ass.
Agreed. The defense is stacked
particularly at key positions. That may be enough to win some playoff games with an average QB.
Well, for starters, as you suggested...
there’s a lot of distance between “terrible” and “have a lot to prove.”
Second, I’m not particularly a Sparano fan, but I don’t think it’s fair to say our coaches are terrible. Mike Nolan is one of the best DCs in the business. Our DL coach is terrific. Zach Thomas and Brian Cox are unproven as coaches, but there’s certainly no reason to think they don’t know what they’re doing. On the offensive side, we don’t know what Daboll is. Our RB coach seems to be pretty good. The QB coach is a total unknown in that job, and there’s reason to think he may not be good at it, but you can’t fairly go beyond that in criticizing him. The OL coach does seem to be pretty bad. The current special teams coach still has a lot to prove, but you can’t say he’s Bonamego bad.
Sparano, himself, isn’t “terrible.” I think maybe he’s not really head coach material, he meddles with the OL too much, and he hasn’t shown a ton of growth, but he’s not terrible. Eric Mangini is terrible. Cam Cameron is terrible. Sparano is clearly a class higher than those guys.
That is, I think, a fair, empirical assessment of our coaching staff. It’s the kind of stuff I would expect a reporter who covers the Dolphins to know and bring up. “Terrible” isn’t just too strong a word. It’s completely unwarranted by the available evidence.
Third, the front office also is not terrible. Are they great? I’d say no. They miss on draft picks too much for my taste, but I don’t have a terribly strong complaint beyond that. They’ve not made any franchise-limiting moves where they wildly overpaid for trades or free agents. That’s something a lot of FOs can’t say. They’ve slowly, but steadily grown the talent level of the roster. They’ve shown the willingness to make the big move when they see one available. I know you think the QB situation is evidence to the contrary, but a lot of reasonable people disagree on the grounds that there just hasn’t been a big move available at a non-franchise-limiting price.
Fourth, we don’t know if the offense is terrible. We know last year’s offense was terrible. And the one before that wasn’t a lot better. But there’s been a lot of turnover this off-season, from the OC right on down. Do I have confidence in all of the moves? No. Do I know how it’s all going to shake out? No. And neither does anybody else.
We know we had a very solid WR corps, with a speed guy the one missing piece. We added a speed guy in the draft, so there’s reason to hope that squad will be even better. We know our RBs were running out of gas awfully fast. We made moves to get a lot younger, and added some promising talent. We know our OL was terrible at run-blocking, and only serviceable in the passing game. We used our first-round pick to address that, picking up a guy most people expect to be a star. (I’m not so sure, but I’m in the distinct minority.) We moved some other guys around and added some veteran guys. I’m not terribly optimistic about all of that, but I do think we’ll be better than last year.
Obviously, we still have a huge question mark at QB, but with all the other changes, and given that our QB is still quite young, the truth is we just don’t know what this offense will look like. I expect it to be improved. Will it improve enough to claw out of the terribleness of the past 2 years? No idea.
Again, all of that stuff is readily available information that I would expect a Dolphins beat writer to know and to bring up when the host of a nationwide broadcast makes a blanket statement that everything in Miami is terrible.
Chad Henne took the Lindbergh baby!
by urbino on Aug 5, 2011 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions 9 recs
Turn this green.
Don't tell me Miami has no O. We've got Colombo and Fasano and Sparano!
Chad Henne is 7 feet tall and consumes DBs with fireballs from his eyes and lightning bolts from his ass.
I disagree with one part of this:
They miss on draft picks too much for my taste
The only real issue this FO has had is finding a franchise QB.. Other than that, this FO has done a good job in the draft. We have 3 starters from the 08 draft, 2 of which are long term starters/stars (Long and Langford). We have 4 starters from the 09 draft, 2 of which are long term starters/stars (Davis and Smith). While it’s too early to tell about the 2010 draft, it looks like we have 2 potential long term starters/stars (Odrick and Misi) with potential for 2 more (Jones and Carroll). They have done well in the draft IMO, with the notable exception of QB.
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And we'll find out this year how good the '10 draft was.
Chad Henne is 7 feet tall and consumes DBs with fireballs from his eyes and lightning bolts from his ass.
This FO has done very well building a team IMO
The problem is it looks like they missed on Henne. We’d have a contending team with a good QB. Unfortunately, we still have a need at QB, unless Henne can prove otherwise.
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I agree with that assessment. We'll find out this season if it's true or not.
I just hope that Henne doesn’t play just well enough to keep his job. I like the guy but he really needs to blow us all away.
But that said, we have a great team, and all we really need is a QB. If Henne fails this year, we WILL get our guy next year. Either in the draft, by trade, or free agency.
Chad Henne is 7 feet tall and consumes DBs with fireballs from his eyes and lightning bolts from his ass.
I don't think Henne can play just "well enough" to keep his job
He needs to come out of this season looking like a franchise QB in order for him to keep it. His stats have to improve across the board. We have to win because of Henne, not in spite of him. If those things cannot happen, then we are drafting a QB next year.
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That's what I was saying :P
I murdered that sentence.
Chad Henne is 7 feet tall and consumes DBs with fireballs from his eyes and lightning bolts from his ass.
Great Teams with a Great GM, Great Coaching, and Great Players don't finish 7-9 the last two years.
Great Teams don’t lose 3 in row to end each of the last 2 years when trying to get in the playoffs. Great Teams don’t go 1-7 at home. Great Teams don’t go 10+ years with no playoff wins.
The only way for this team to be “Great” is to win and win big. If this team this year doesn’t win in the playoffs, in the 4th year of their regime, then it is time to bring in someone new as GM and HC.
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We're not a great team until we prove it.
But not yet proving it is no reason to throw the hole thing over a bridge and start over, which is what you and everyone else who is complaining about this franchise with such intensity is advocating.
You want a new owner, a new GM, a new coach, new players? Have fun for the next 10 years while they figure it out.
Chad Henne is 7 feet tall and consumes DBs with fireballs from his eyes and lightning bolts from his ass.
That's just it, they haven't proved it. It's been 3 years and they haven't proved anything.
While the Jets and Pats have done thing to get better when they were already ahead of the Phins. The Phins have been and are in a constant catch-up mode because they fail to do what is necessary to leapfrog those teams, meaning getting a real QB.
You said the following:
But that said, we have a great team, and all we really need is a QB.
I would say that the Jets have a great team and all they really need is a QB because they made the AFC Championship Game two years in a row with a QB that isn’t much better than Henne.
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I definitely agree that we're not great.
But we’re also not terrible.
Don’t think the Jets have a great team, either, btw. Very good, yes. Great? Meh.
Chad Henne took the Lindbergh baby!
To get to two straight AFC Championship Games with Mark Sanchez at QB, tells me they are doing something right!
Great? OK maybe not. But Pretty Damn Good! Can we agree on that? =)
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The difference between you and me
is that I never thought we’d turn around a 1-15 franchise completely void of talent in a couple of years. Our 11-5 season was a much needed aberration. Last year was disappointing because we did not improve on our record, but we’ve improved in many other things. We’re moving up, I’m sorry you don’t see it.
The Jets sucked before they hired Rex Ryan not because they didn’t have talent, but because they didn’t have good coaching. Their cupboards were still stocked. The Patriots have been at the top of their game for years. It’s hardly the same thing as what we’re going through. Our improvements will look much different from there’s just because our situation is completely different.
Chad Henne is 7 feet tall and consumes DBs with fireballs from his eyes and lightning bolts from his ass.
We were 1-15 due to bad coaching,
we could have easily had 6-7 wins with a half way decent HC.
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by uncle finster on Aug 6, 2011 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Bad coaching made Lemon and Beck terrible QBs?
Bad coaching led to on of the worst OLs I’ve ever seen? Bad coaching led to one of the worst Ds Miami has put out? Bad Coaching led to the worst O Miami has ever had?
Blame it all on the coaching, player talent has nothing to do with winning
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The coach was making those calls.
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by uncle finster on Aug 9, 2011 7:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Well let's look at those two playoff runs
In 2009, they only got in the playoffs because teams laid down in the last two weeks of the season to let them in. They beat a terrible Cincy team in round one that had fizzled out have way through the 2009 season. They beat a SD team that was clearly better, but lost due to ST. They lost to Peyton Manning in the AFC title game.
In 2010, they caught a lot of breaks. They won games against weaker opponents that they easily could have lost like the Browns and Lions because of fluke plays or injuries. In terms of injuries, the Jets had very few injury concerns all season and didn’t suffer any significant injuries to their O-line. In the playoffs, they beat an injury riddled Colts team that had lost most of their weapons. Even then, it took a big KR in order to win. The Pats game was the only really good win of the playoff run in both seasons. The Jets defense had the perfect game plan against the Pats. It didn’t hurt that Sanchez had 3 TDs in that game either. They lost to a better defense and better QB in the AFC title game.
To me, I don’t see the Jets making a big playoff run again this year unless Sanchez improves dramatically. Their offense got worse by losing Edwards and Cotchery. Their defense, while good, hasn’t really improved. And you can guarantee that they aren’t going to go all season without key injuries and catching breaks like they have been over the last two years.
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by The Earl on Aug 6, 2011 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
This.
Sums up the over-hype of the Jets perfectly.
by DolfanVince86 on Aug 9, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
That's just it, they haven't proved it. It's been 3 years and they haven't proved anything.
The greatest single season turn around in NFL history and they haven’t proven anything.
The jests have the same ownership and the same GM and the core of the team they had in 2007 (Fergusson, Mangold, Ellis, Harris Revis and about 10 other guys)
Who is left from 2007 now? Soliai. Fields, Carrey and Bell. Am I missing anyone..oh right Taylor for the second time.
The jest FO has done a good job, but the Dophins FO has re-built the team almost completely…and they have drafted well especially in the later rounds…they have also been agressive going after talent – Marshall – Dansby – Bush and UDFA’s Carpenter – Bess.
I think people over value what happens in NY…simply because it happens in NY…and we are undervaluing what our FO has accomplished here.
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Where are you getting "great"?
Cuz it’s sure as hell not from anything I said.
Chad Henne took the Lindbergh baby!
BravePhin said the Phins are Great but need a QB. I disagree.
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I said great.
But then I thought the Dolphins were great when we were 1-15. I’m a fan. I love this team. The colors, the location, the history, the players, everything about this franchise is great. Some years are more great than others. I well understand that to be great in the eyes of non-Phin fans we need to actually win games, in the playoffs, and in the super bowl.
Chad Henne is 7 feet tall and consumes DBs with fireballs from his eyes and lightning bolts from his ass.
Correction...
Great Teams with a Great GM, Great Coaching, and Great Players don’t finish 7-9 the last two years.
you forgot the part about great QB. This team was more than capable of making a playoff run last year if we’d had a great QB. We have a very good defense, good WR core, hopefully improved O-line, and a more dangerous rushing attack. All we need is a better QB and we’ll be in contention. Either Henne improves or we draft a better QB. Either way, we aren’t THAT far away.
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Defensively, the Phins are right where they need to be for greatness.
While I agree a great QB is needed, I am not convinced that the Phins have enough explosiveness on offense yet. How far this offense is from Great is hard to say right now.
I look at the Packers, Eagles, Steelers, Pats, Jets, Saints, Giants, Chargers, Chiefs, etc and see all the talent that they have on offense. I don’t think the Phins are to that level yet.
We will see soon.
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the problem is
not that they missed on draft picks, but they missed on high picks (1st and 2nd rounders) that the fans disagreed on from the start (white and ginn)
however IMO i believe that the FO is doing an excellent job in building a solid young team
remember defense wins championships
my mistake
but still there others that i didnt care to mention as well
If you notice
a good portion of the flops of first and second rounders the past few years were guys that Parcells was really high on (White, Turner, and Henne(Who will likely be a bust but could still surprise)) so maybe with him out of the picture they will improve in the first two rounds now.
yes i completely agree with this
nothing else to say
i believe we are going in a good direction right now (hopefuly)
We'll see.
Henne and White are misses. I’m not convinced Odrick will pan out. I don’t expect much from Daniel Thomas, and there were much better backs available. As I mentioned, Pouncey is more of a question mark in my mind than he is in most.
Chad Henne took the Lindbergh baby!
I'll agree that missing on a QB is an issue
but the rest of our drafts have been good. Lots of people think that every draft pick is supposed to pan out and the reality is that you will only get about 2 good players from every draft. More than likely, you’ll only get one long term starter from any given draft. The fact we have drafted not just multiple starters, but potential stars in each draft, then you can see how good this FO has been in the draft. You’re going to have misses in every draft. Every team does every year. So you have to look at the number of hits instead of the number of misses.
The reason this is even being discussed is because we missed at QB. Had Henne panned out like we had hoped he would have by now, everyone would be talking about how great we draft and what a good GM we have.
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Maybe so, but not in my case.
The Henne miss doesn’t bother me all that much. We desperately needed somebody to start grooming. QBs are a high risk/high reward proposition. I can live with it.
The other picks I mentioned actually bother me a lot more.
Chad Henne took the Lindbergh baby!
Well what are you expecting?
You aren’t going to get All-Pros at every position you draft in every round. Chances are most draft picks won’t last 3 years in the league on ANY team. Considering we have drafted the best LT in the NFL, 2 very good CBs, a good DE, a good #2 WR and good backups in two drafts, that’s pretty darn good. You can’t judge any of the picks from 2010 or 2011 yet by any means. We don’t know if Pouncey, Thomas, or Odrick will pan out because it’s too early. You said of Thomas:
and there were much better backs available
Like whom? How do you know they will be better? You can’t make statements like that until well after the fact. Pouncey and Odrick might be question marks, but you don’t KNOW that they are bad picks. You assume they are. You can’t say that this FO is bad at drafting based on future predictions. You have to look at the picks they’ve chosen that you can properly evaluate (typically 3 years). And based on that, this FO has done well at finding talent in the draft. They will look especially great if the 2009 class continues it’s development.
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Pouncey and Odrick might be question marks, but you don’t KNOW that they are bad picks. You assume they are.
No, I don’t, actually. I said as much. In fact, I used exactly the same term you did, about Pouncey: a question mark. So I’m not sure who you’re arguing with.
Nonetheless, my gut does tell me those 2 first-round picks are iffy. Since my gut is all I have to go on — since, as you say, they haven’t played — that’s what I’m going on. I acknowledged as much. I’m not sure what else you want.
Chad Henne took the Lindbergh baby!
Here's what you said:
They miss on draft picks too much for my taste
What misses are you talking about then? Are these the misses you are talking about?
Henne and White are misses. I’m not convinced Odrick will pan out. I don’t expect much from Daniel Thomas, and there were much better backs available. As I mentioned, Pouncey is more of a question mark in my mind than he is in most.
You are justifying the first statement by the second. You are already assuming Pouncey, Odrick, and Thomas are misses whether you say so outright or not. My point is that you need to look at the 2 drafts that you can actually evaluate and then make the opinion. You are making a blanket statement about the FO using a promising 2nd year player who was injured and two rookies as your main justification.
If you look at the 2008 and 2009 drafts, you will see that they have drafted very well. White and Turner were the only major misses. In 2008, the misses were Merling (still a quality backup), and Murphy. The other “misses” were late round guys who had a slim chance of making the team anyway. Of course, one of those late rounders is still here and still contributes (Hilliard). In 2009, the misses were White and Turner. The other “misses” were late round guys who had a slim chance of making the team anyway. Of course, one of those late round guys is still around and not only contributes, but may start this year (Clemons).
So unless you are considering late round choices as misses (and you shouldn’t), then the only real miss this FO has is with Henne, and he still might be salvageable. Therefore, I disagree that we have had bad drafts and that this FO is bad at drafting. This FO is good at bringing in talent through the draft and the evidence (that you can use) backs it up.
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And another thing
If Henne truly is a miss, then that should be the WORST of all of them. If you miss with an interior lineman, then who cares? You can find effective guards and centers in FA or in another draft. If you miss with a RB, then you find another one in another draft. If you miss with a 3-4 DE, then you find one somewhere else. Those are supplementary pieces to any team. Missing on a QB sets your franchise back for years. If you are going to miss on draft picks, then you are better off missing on a center, RB, or DL than a QB, not the other way around.
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by The Earl on Aug 6, 2011 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I already gave my reasons.
I recognize that QB picks are, more than any other position, a shot in the dark. Every team in the league misses way, way more than they hit on QB picks. Always have. Ergo, I don’t find it surprising or especially blameworthy that we did.
It hurts, but it’s understandable.
Chad Henne took the Lindbergh baby!
Completely agree with your assessment of our dafting m'lud
However I belive the same logic that applies to the 2009 class should also apply to Henne…he’s not a miss – yet. As long as he’s the starting qb..with a chance to improve..he’s not a miss. (He’s not a hit yet either…and we’re all hoping he will be)
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I'm not high on Ross or Sparano, but I'd say Ireland and Miami's scouting department have done pretty darn well.
The offense has a bunch of holes, but it isn’t terrible.
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
We don't have anything to base this offense on yet except for last year's results. And last year the offense was terrible.
This is year 4 of this regime. The last two years have ended terribly, 0-6 combined in the last 3 games of each year with a chance to make the playoffs.
Since the end of last year, this owner has tried to replace the HC and failed. The FO has done everything that they could do to replace Henne by trying to trade for Orton and Palmer only to fail. The HC has repeatedly pissed off fans and said some things lately that have made him the a laughing stock of the league. There are national sports reporters from all over the country trying to figure out just what the hell this franchise has been doing since the end of last year.
I don’t live in South Florida. All I get for Dolphins news on the radio is a national perspective and right now it is all bad when it comes to this team. There isn’t a lot of positive right now surrounding this team. That plus the fact that I don’t see them getting any closer to the Pats (the best team in the AFC last year) or the Jets (2 straight AFC Championship Game appearances) in the division makes me wonder what the hell they are doing.
Until they prove it to me and a lot of other people on the field, there are going to be a lot of questions surrounding this team.
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Too bad we can't "un-rec" a comment!
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saying everything is terrible in Miami: the owner is terrible, the FO is terrible, the coaches are terrible, the offense is terrible.
Salguero?
I thought you were talking about half the “dolphin fans” who post here. Maybe the negativity portrayed by the media is just a reflection of the negativity of the fan base.
I hear ya man ! the negativity around here does suck.
but armando is still a douche !
founding member of the dolphins really old bastards fan club
by daytonadolfan on Aug 5, 2011 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions
One feeds the other, they both feed each other.
Don't tell me Miami has no O. We've got Colombo and Fasano and Sparano!
Chad Henne is 7 feet tall and consumes DBs with fireballs from his eyes and lightning bolts from his ass.
Sure, but Salguero, as a "reporter"...
is supposed to report the facts. Not vent irrational fan frustration. Presumably, that’s what he gets paid for.
Chad Henne took the Lindbergh baby!
Salguero being a crappy journalist isnt news.
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Miss the misery.
Need a reason for a change.
Need a reason to explain.
So turn it on again.
Don't change your mind.
You're wasting light.
by Patssuck456 on Aug 5, 2011 8:19 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
lol
True. He adds nothing.
"The first thing I do when I get out of bed and feel the jolt in my knees is think of Roy Winston. On the second step, my calcified Adam's apple starts bobbing, and I think of Carl Eller. A few more steps in the dark and it's Willie Lanier. By the time I get to the bathroom, I'm flashing back to Dick Butkus and Ray Nitschke. And when the light finally comes on, I just hope that somewhere in the darkness they're thinking of me, too" - Larry Csonka.
He played before my time but one of the toughest SOBs to ever play!
Miami is the media's whipping boys
Did you have any doubt that he’d jump on the bandwagon and bash on his own team?
Media outlets are so anxious to badmouth the Dolphins, they’ll even make stuff up. Here’s something from Pro Football Talk that made me laugh:
“All indications are that the fans who want the Dolphins to acquire Orton in a trade with the Broncos are the majority, and the "We want Henne" chants came from a minority. "
Allow me to be more professional than PFT and provide the link as proof:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/05/dolphins-fans-chant-we-want-henne/
Unless you take a POLL or actually interview EVERY Fins fan…how can you realistically state that more Dolphins fans want Orton than they do Henne?
Even better…how do you take the positive actions of a group of fans and skew it so that it still looks bad for Henne?
Armando is just a wart on the tip of the iceberg.
New England signed two useless old farts. The Jets managed to stay about the same, or lost a couple contributors from last year. Yet the media can’t stop gushing.
Point? They’re all tools. If you want to know the FACTS…collect them yourself :)
I fart in your general direction. Your mother was a hamster and your father reeked of elderberries. Now go away or I shall taunt you a second time.
by mikem1224 on Aug 5, 2011 8:44 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
MIami brought it on themselves in a way
That whole thing with Harbaugh was a freakin’ dabacle. It looked Mickey Mouse no matter how you try to spin it.
If Miami was going to make a move on Harbaugh they should have fired Sporano first PERIOD!!!Trying to get a new Head Coach while the other guy is still there is WRONG.
So my question is why keep Sporano at that point ?- much less EXTEND his contract? My goodness you just showed that you wanted someone else now you freakin EXTEND him? The players know he’s lame duck so you already tipped your hand.
Then you fire the OC – fine, he was bad last year – but then you bring in Cleveland’s OC? Freakin Clevelands guy? Okay I see why you are not happy with your 21st ranked Offense so bring in the OC from Cleveland and thier 29th ranked O. Daboll might be okay but as a fan I wasn;t impressed by that hire – i hope the guy does well.
Then the Orton / Henne thing too now.
Maybe the media is targeting the Dolphins because the Organization looks like the freakin keystone cops right now and management has made them an easy target.
I’m not blaming this on the media – rrun a first class organization and that kind of talks fades off.
by scrappy the wildcat on Aug 6, 2011 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Agree about Ross.
He’s made some terrible rookie mistakes that made the whole franchise look amateurish.
Chad Henne took the Lindbergh baby!
thats why they are being bashed by the media nationally
because that whole thing was an absolute debacle.
this team is a mess from a management standpoint.
does anyone have confidence that Sporano will be around after this season?
by scrappy the wildcat on Aug 6, 2011 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Ross's mistakes neither explain nor justify what this knucklehead was saying.
Nor does it explain or justify Armando not correcting him with the facts.
As for Sparano’s chances, I’d put them at 50/50.
Chad Henne took the Lindbergh baby!
I am not defending Armando Salguero
I am defending the national medias perception of the Dolphins as disfunctional …… that seemed to me where some of the replies to your original post were heading.
by scrappy the wildcat on Aug 6, 2011 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions
It's funny how the Orton non trade is our "fault"
Look at what’s happening in Danver right now and tell me that’s a FO with it’s act together….takes two, or in this case three, to tango.
The jests didn’t sign Nnamdi, even though they restructered about five contracts and cut a couple of starters to do it. Thet just let Edwards go and signed a 30- something headcase who hasn’t played in this decade and they’re having an “exciting” off-season.
I couldn’t give a flying tinker’s cuss what the national media thinks..it’s all reactive blogging now anyway, there’s very little actual reporting.
We win, we’ll get respect, otherwise it’s just GIGO.
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Exactly....and how is Orton considered an upgrade?
So far, Ireland has been an extremely perceptive GM, and Sporano’s time here as HC falls, not just on his ‘believing’ the abilities of our QB…but if he executes!
I believe he will get it done.
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Why can't women put on mascara with their mouth closed?
Who owns this shithole? - Will Muny
I believe he will too.
This is the lot of an NFL GM…damned if you do and damned if you don’t. The national media was virtually unanimous in its praise of the Cullpepper trade when it was made, which is now routinely dragged out as a failure. Different FO I know, but the trade has stuck to the franchise.
Now Ireland has somehow failed because he wouldn’t be held hostage by Denver…that’s just sound management.
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by PhrozenPhish on Aug 7, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Winning Solves Everything. End of Story... :)
The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is.
Winston Churchill
nope
not if you are the miami dolphins
the year after the 2008 season where we made the playoffs i still felt as though reporters and the media did not respect us
mark my word until we make the championship or the suber bowl the team wont get the respect it deserves
Of course they would have looked like idiots jumping on Miami's bandwagon,
because of 2 subsequent 7-9 seasons.
Thats why they usually wait until you prove it year after year.
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by uncle finster on Aug 6, 2011 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions
i completely agree with you but....
the media is jumping all over the bucaneers bandwagon and (a bit) the detroit bandwagon
both are completely unproven teams that had some success this past season
all they did is show a little bit of promise in a disappointing season….i think if you look at that you could say that the phins showed more promise in a more successful season
I disagree,
the media isn’t jumping all over those band wagons, they are pointing out that for the last couple of seasons these 2 clubs are making a lot of really good moves and and are pointed in the right direction.
We got that and more, but 2009 killed it, we didn’t continue to show progress.
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by uncle finster on Aug 6, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Child Please. Wake up. Don't live in a bubble. Do you remember Porter's House on NFL Network.
The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is.
Winston Churchill
Yea, and we got quite a bit of media coverage,
selective memory, lol
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by uncle finster on Aug 6, 2011 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions
YES - winning does solve everything
thats always been the formula,
by scrappy the wildcat on Aug 6, 2011 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions
I mean...
…can you really blame people for thinking the Miami FO sucks, after the farcical Jim Harbaugh saga?
You mad? You jelly?
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[Currently hoping that Reggie Bush isn't as useless as I think he is]
Isn't it sad?
Miami’s two most known beat writers out there are Armando and Omar. Can we bring back Tim Graham? Go Jeff Darlington…
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
I respect Jeff and Ben Volin
more than Armando. I hate how Omar hates on Henne so much but he does post a lot more than others on Twitter so I have to go to his page.
I got S + What a Dog's Tail Does.
Bring back Pat White. He is the chosen one.
When is the last time you have read Tim Graham? He cover's the AFC EAST for espn CORRECT?
The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is.
Winston Churchill
Not anymore.
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
LOL. Just Checking.
The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is.
Winston Churchill
He used to work for the Palm Beach Post though.
He works in Buffalo now.
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
LOL. I've read his Bio. Where I live guys like Mondo and Omar would have been run out of town.
Mondo is a sh-t stirrer and Omar is to full of Himself to understand the game. I will say Omar works pretty hard though. The guy is on Twitter at all hours of the night. LOL.
The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is.
Winston Churchill
As a former journalist
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by PhrozenPhish on Aug 7, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Wooops - new keyboard.
Honestly I don’t see sitting up firing off random thoughts on your cell phone as “work.”
Omar is sneeky negative right now…he’ll throw in a line like “Mom always said if you can’t say anything nice….” or “I’m trying to be positive…” clearly the inference is he isn’t impressed at what he’s looking at…
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by PhrozenPhish on Aug 7, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
The only time Omar is impressed is when he looks in the mirror.
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
by Finhead83 on Aug 7, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Excellent come back. LOL. Rec'd
The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is.
Winston Churchill
LOL. I'm West Coast time. He's on Twitter at all hours. But you are right. LOL
The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is.
Winston Churchill
I feel for ya!
It was strange watching the Dolphins when I lived in Cali. I went to the sports bar and ordered eggs and such for breakfast. It goes the tradition dating back to my childhood of chips and salsa or pizza rolls. It was good for Sunday/Monday Night games at least…
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
i concur
i completely agree with you…the dolphins get sooo much crap from pretty much every reporter out there. I mean if u just look at our record we appear to be at the middle of the pack (although i believe we are much better than our record shows). it is kinda ridiculous to blast everything about the team….i live in california, so hearing news about the dolphins is somewhat of a treat for me, unfortunately reporters are terrible and do not know how to really go in depth on a team, they all basically use team “stereotypes”. not even if we make the playoffs will we get respect and its pathetic.
on another note i completely understand you using “screed” i get ticked off everytime i listen to misinformed reports of my favorite team.
I had to look up git on urban dictionary.
Now that I know what it means, I’d like to add Dave Hyde to that category for fueling the Favre fire. I mean seriously, Favre made J Allen look like a Pro Bowler.
It's what you learn after you know it all that counts. ~ John Wooden
something that might piss u off even more
from your dear Armando Salguero
http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/08/05/2347371/miami-dolphins-defense-making.html
hypocrite? i think so
That one doesn't bother me.
He’s right. The defense is going to be the dominant unit on this team, and probably by a wide margin.
Chad Henne took the Lindbergh baby!
He's right, but why not say that on TV?
Who outside of the Miami fanbase will read this? Are they trying to undersell the team to the national media so other teams think we’ll suck? That will only work for a game or two before they catch on.
Chad Henne is 7 feet tall and consumes DBs with fireballs from his eyes and lightning bolts from his ass.
on the contrary
it bugs me even more
many many many reporters say that the phins blow because of some lame reason (poor reporting)
but when a report knows and even says the phins are up and coming (at east defense) then why the hell wouldnt you back that up on tv? be different, take a chance on your home town, do what you think is going to happen, not what the nation thinks
be objective........
who would you rank as the best team on the AFC East?
who would you rank second?
if you had Miami as #1 or #2 you are in the minority my freind.
So what national media is going to go crazy for the 3rd best team in a division?
by scrappy the wildcat on Aug 6, 2011 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Not the issue.
The guy didn’t say the Dolphins weren’t one of the 2 best teams in the AFC East. The guy declared the Dolphins terrible from top to bottom.
It was utterly unsupportable malarkey. Armando validated it, anyway.
Chad Henne took the Lindbergh baby!
okay i believe you
I was referring to the national media perception. not this one specific interview or radio talk program.
the Dolphins disfunctional offseason is overshadowing thier clearly legitimate top notch defense.
by scrappy the wildcat on Aug 6, 2011 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions
i really dont get
why everyone is saying it was so dysfunctional
sure the head coach fiasco was a bit embarassing in the beginning but i thought they recovered from that pretty well
the post lock out and even draft was fairly successful from the FO point of view.
in the draft they addressed the issues they wanted to with the o-line, RB, speed WR, and etc
just because they did not want to overpay for Orton (or promise him anything) everyone says they are dysfunctional?
just because you may not agree with them, doesnt mean the FO screwed up all their plans…..
i agree thier plan might still work....
the infusion of speed might make a difference.
Daboll might do a nice job.
Henne might regain form.
hec …. i would LOVE for all that to happen …. I am just saying why the perception is so bad nationally..
The Head Coaching this was a mess and that stuff sticks with people …. that will be talked about everytime the Dolphins win or lose or no matter what happens……. I can hear it now……………
If they Win – “Well Tony Sporano is doing a hell of a job … the Head Coach the team didn;t even want.”
If they lose – “this is gotta be tough for Sporano … they wanted to change coaches last year now his seat is even hotter”
See what I mean??? when you screw it up that bad these things don;t just get swept unde rthe rug because the season is starting.
by scrappy the wildcat on Aug 6, 2011 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions
yea thats a big issue
if we succeed they say its luck
if its failure they say they called it
i would enjoy watching henne succeed for the simple pleasure of rubbing it into almost every reporters face…
i think they can win with Henne
if the OL is solid and the running game is working.
Last yeat that wasn;t the case.
And the wildcat – i wish they would get rid of it – its not good for the developement of the young QB – I thought it should have been thrown overboard last year.
by scrappy the wildcat on Aug 6, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
yes
IMO henne is a good enough qb where we can get into the playoff and win a game or two…is he the franchise player? i dont know yet but i think he can be with work
good point but
our league is extremely strong and people consider the jets and pats to be the top team in the league, and i believe (maybe just because i love the phins) that we are up to par with the jets
and on another note how bout the lions? they finished tied last in their league, yet they are getting plenty of media hype. people consider them to be a solid, up and coming team, some believe they will make the playoffs, and many consider them stroner than the phins
now could u say thats fair?
I'm not buying all the way into the Lions either....
but I can see them a a fun pick.
I think Suh will become the best defensive player in the league in a short time.
It’s Stafford I am not sold on yet …. but he still has that #1 overall draft pick shine to the media I guess.
Plus Millens gone – they are making some better decisions.
Green Bay is clearly the team to beat in that divsion.
Chicago, Minnesota …… I don;t know I see your point I am not all the way there on the Lions yet either … but I understand the fun of rooting for them …. I mean those fans have been through a lot havenlt they?
by scrappy the wildcat on Aug 6, 2011 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions
im not saying i believe in their hype
it was just to make a point i personally think they are an okay team building up to the future and with some more pieces EVENTUALLY they will be good
but make the playoffs next year? only if they get lucky
but yea they have been through a lot and for that i respect the team
you mentioned the Bucs earlier
I can tell you why they are getting media love.
enthusiastic young Head coach turning things around
good looking young QB
those two things can take you far in the NFL. I agree with the hype on Tampa.
by scrappy the wildcat on Aug 6, 2011 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions
im not sold yet
but i respect your opinnion, until they show me a bit more (this season) then i will believe
Regarding the whole hype with the dolphins: until you have someone that the nation knows, recognizes, and likes, you wont get any positive attention
BM was supposed to be a big name to improve face, but that was no good.
other than that all we had was the Ricky Williams (whom i love dearly) but lets be honest not everyone agrees with what he did. no one else on our team was worthy of mention
i think thats the reason we arent getting much positive hype
even cameron wake who is an absolute animal doesnt get the attention he deserves (same with davone bess). for example wake is going to have an overall of 89 and bess a 78 in madden 12….wtf????
i think thats the reason we arent getting much positive hype
i agree
Regarding the whole hype with the dolphins: until you have someone that the nation knows, recognizes, and likes, you wont get any positive attention
thats right and Marshall is known as talented but troubled.
even cameron wake who is an absolute animal doesnt get the attention he deserves (same with davone bess). for example wake is going to have an overall of 89 and bess a 78 in madden 12….wtf????
i think real football people recognize wakes talent as a pass rusher – nationally he is talked about favorably now … but because the Dolphins are still considered inferior to the Jets and Patriots he won;t get all the respect he deserves.
i think thats the reason we arent getting much positive hype
you are right
but the negative talk about Sparano and the HC fiasco isn;t going away ….its just about to start.
by scrappy the wildcat on Aug 6, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions
It's going to get worse before it gets better.
but the negative talk about Sparano and the HC fiasco isn;t going away ….its just about to start.
What do you think the lead story about the Dolphins will be on the MNF telecast against the Pats? Ross trying to replace Sparano or the FO trying to replace Henne?
"It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing." MACBETH
"Walter, I love you, but sooner or later, you're going to have to face the fact you're a goddamn moron." THE DUDE (The Big Lebowski)
they are tied together - the story will be.....
the organization tried to replace the HC – but he’s still here
the organization tried to replace the QB – he’s still here too
so they start the season with 2 guys they didn’t even want and attempted to replace.
thats the story ….. its unavoidable ……its bigger than Reggie Bush or 1st rd pick Pouncey or Ricky / Ronnie leaving or Jason Taylor coming back.
the story of the 2 guys the team didn’t want lead them into the season.
by scrappy the wildcat on Aug 6, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
the sad part is this is true
it wont even matter if the FO really did call Jim (i dont know if the stories were actually confirmed by our FO) or that the reason we wanted another qb on our roster was to provide competition to henne (which our FO still believes in)…they will just look at the fact that we didnt get Orton and Mallet and say we arent risky enough, or we dont know what we are doing
The lead story...
It’s opening MNF game. Lead story is the lockout. Plus it is a NE media market. Secondary story is Big Al and tertiary story is Chad Ochocinco. Four part of the story is the fact the Patriots are playing Miami. Commentators then struggle to say anything about Miami.
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
Sorry...
I forgot to throw in Tom Brady’s haircut at #4 before the MNF cast mentions the Patriots’ opponent is the Miami Dolphins.
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
True
everything seems to be more important than the phins
Unless it is the Jets, Giants, or Cowboys...
ESPN will even mention the New England’s opponent by name once or twice per game.
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
As soon as deserve some attention we will get it.
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by uncle finster on Aug 9, 2011 7:49 AM EDT up reply actions
That pretty much nails it.
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by PhrozenPhish on Aug 7, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
thats how I see it too......
the defense will be good enought to keep them in games.
this is one place I am actually buyin into the hype. I expect a lot from the defense.
by scrappy the wildcat on Aug 6, 2011 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Armando may be right
I don’t agree with him too often, but in this case, he is dead on.
so you think
that our team is terrible?
because that would be an ignorant statement
No one ever said TEAM.
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by uncle finster on Aug 9, 2011 7:50 AM EDT up reply actions
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