A Phinsider Look at Training Camp (Tampa Bay: good, bad, and ugly edition)
Usually, these posts have sections on each quarter on how both the offense and defense performed, including the players who had the better outings. However,on this post, I wanted to switch things up a bit and include a "The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly" section with videos on each division...I also did not want to boor you to death with facts about a game that really did not have much excitement past the 1st Quarter. With all that being said, let's take a look at how the Miami Dolphins performed against the young and athletic Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
THE GOOD:
Henne: 0:00-1:50. Defense: 1:50-2:50, Moore: 2:50-3:07
Chad Henne: Henne’s career has had more ups and downs than an elevator; one week he does well, the next week he does badly. Last week against the Carolina Panthers, Henne performed on an elite level going 15-24 for 194 yards. Did that mean he was going have a bad outing in week 3? The stats said "yes," but Henne said "no." #7 had seemingly his best performance of the pre-season going 10-13 for 175 yards (averaging 13.5 YPP) and a Touchdown to Brandon Marshall. What impressed the most was Henne’s leadership in the pocket, calling audibles, getting the ball quickly out of his hands, and most importantly, eyeing the entire field as you see in the video. You may say "it’s only pre-season shut up!" but when you play that well against a young, playoff contenting team like Tampa Bay, you cannot brush Henne’s performance off your shoulder.
Defense: Although they suffered the loss, the Miami defense was able to limit Josh Freeman from having any rhythm at all.
Vontae Davis: Showed the media that he can talk-the–talk as he shutdown every receiver that came his way. Vontae forced Freeman to throw the ball away on a CB blitz and also caught a leaping interception down the left sideline, which unfortunately was called back due to a penalty.
Cameron Wake: Earth-Wake was involved positively in almost every play, whether it was tripping Josh Freeman for a Kevin Burnett sack, deflect passes from behind the QB, or even playing man coverage.
Kevin Burnett: Burnett continues to show Miami why he was the right choice over Channing Crowder as he possesses the ability to play on every down and get to the Quarterback at any given moment. He has taken the role of a leader on the defense along with Karlos Dansby, and so far has given Dolfans no doubt that they have improved on the defensive side of the ball.
Notable Mention: Will Allen sacked the QB in the end zone for a safety, but once again, it was called back due to a penalty.
MOORE TO MOORE: For the past month-or-so we have heard Matt Moore and Marlon Moore connecting on various occasions. Last night in Tampa, these two connected for back-to-back big-gain plays totaling 42 yards. Jared Odrick, after the game, mentioned both Moore’s as being "Brothers from other mothers." Marlon has definitely made a strong enough impact to force Sparano to possibly make a hard choice at the WR spot.
THE BAD:
PENALTIES: If you thought the Carolina game was a bad outing penalty-wise, think again. Miami had 11 penalties totaling 75 yards, and a couple of them were costly. Jason Taylor had an illegal contact penalty after a Will Allen sack in the endzone, and Jared Odrick had an offside penalty, which caused Vontae Davis’ interception to not count. Others, like Jared Masrtud, Lousaka Polite, Will Allen, Nate Garner, and Vernon Carey had penalties as well. This is definitely a problem that needs to be addressed; sloppy penalties can prove to be very costly in a regular season game.
THE UGLY:
O-LINE: At this point, calling the O-Line play "ugly" is a compliment. Only one player had a decent outing on the line, and he is a rookie (Mike Pouncey).
Marc Colombo: Bringing in Colombo looks like it was a mistake (as of now). After re-watching the game, Colombo looks like he has more interest of being off the field than on it. His laziness translates into sacks & run stops. If he wants to keep his job from being stolen by Lyndon Murtha, his work ethic needs to change drastically and he must take advantage of his big body.
Vernon Carey: Moving Carey to G seems to be another mistake (as of now) on the Line. Carey looks quite old and un-athletic when going up against these fast D-Line men. Abused is the more appropriate term to use when it came to Carey on last night’s performance. VC was on the floor more times than he was standing on it. If Sparano truly is the "O-Line Guru" people claim, then I only hope that he is teasing us and has something big up his sleeve.
NOTABLE MENTIONS: Nate Garner and Lyndon Murtha were also heavily "played" upon the Line last night.
WORST OF THE WORST:
JOHN JERRY: Jerry has no business being on this team, let alone the NFL. His constant lack of strength, aggressiveness, and common knowledge has seemed to frustrate every Dolphin fan and reporter out there, including Omar Kelly, who described him as "A big marshmallow." This Marshmallow was destroyed against Tampa Bay, and the worst part about it was the fact that he played against the 3rd Team D at various moments.
RUNNING GAME: Although our O-Line decided to take a vacation last night, that was no excuse for the lack of running efficiency.
Reggie Bush: After his outstanding debut against the Panthers, Reggie Bush looked to carry on his performance into Raymond James Stadium, but he couldn’t have done worse on the ground. Bush found no rhythm at all as he carried the ball 5 times for -1 yards. Hopefully, it was only a fluke.
Daniel Thomas: DT33 had the better of the running back performances, but still performed fairly bad as he carried the ball 7 times for 16 yards,
Larry Johnson: Unfortunately, there were not a lot of Larry Johnson sightings as he only carried the ball twice for 7 yards.
Week 3 is in the books and the Miami Dolphins clearly have a lot of work to do. Tony Sparano must interact with his inner "guru" and somehow figure out a way to get this O-Line in ship shape condition. With 11 penalties, all players must learn from this game and try to perform without mistakes that can prove costly in the long run, and Jeff Nixon (running backs coach) must help these young RB’s find consistency in their rushing attacks. Miami will now come home to face off against their player-manufacturers, the Dallas Cowboys, in what looks to be a great test for this Defense, and an even greater test for those who want to make the 53.
(p.s: sorry for my amateurish video recording)
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Burnett was all over
Really like this dude. Such a better upgrade. Loved the way Henne played. After Marshall got that touchdown I lo ed seeing Henne celebrate with everyone.
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Yea I kept the whole celebration in there
just so people could really see how both their relationships have changed over the lock-out. And I agree, Burnett has been everywhere at all times, I really like that acquisition.
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Great job!
Great write up, pretty much all there is too it. Like videos too well done for what it’s worth.at least we can see what we needed to see.
Only gripe I have is that Bush and Thomas should have NO blame at all for there rushing performance and it shouldn’t even be questioned,they were getting hit as they were getting the ball, bush was quick or strong enough to actually break out of some of those tackles.Starting to think about it, maybe Daniel Thomas isn’t that bad, he just really has not had an opportunity to run through a hole. Carey, Columbo and Murtha are pretty pathetic. Just my opinion Murtha is not that good either, but not as bad as Those guys as well as Gerry should be cut tomorrow.
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Yea I agree that the running problems were possibly 80% on the O-Line
But either way, you have to work with what you’ve got. I expect big things from both Bush and Thomas against Dallas though. And yea Jerry needs to get out right now. btw thanks
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"Ima take my talents to South Beach"--LeBron James
"Here comes the giant royal penis"--Dan LeBatard
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"I make onions cry"--Tom Brandstater
didn't see your comment...
I just wrote a comment to the same tune. Totally agree with you.
Haters gon' hate...
great report as always my young friend
very well done. we better get the dali llama of O lines , instead of the guru if we expect to beat the patsies. hopefully they can get the order straightened out, and maybe they were laying down a little (I hope) , cuz they sure looked lazy out there. Im sure we will see an assless O line out there cuz I’m betting T S is chewing them off today !
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Its preseason
won’t get my self worried over some meaningless games same goes for Henne looking good. I will wait and see when the games count.
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no doubt.... hater... just kiddin'
you’re right though, nothing matters until sept. 12th. still good to see some progress from henne,I just hope he keeps it up in the regular season.
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by daytonadolfan on Aug 28, 2011 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah it should lead to
regular games but maybe it won’t I hope he succeeds what a story that would be
here kitty kitty kitty BANG!
i know its only pre-season
But without pre-season, everyone would be going into the regular season in QB panic. At least now Henne is slowly turning everyone away from being a Henne Hater with back-to-back solid outings. Also, without pre-season, we would be completely screwed at the Line. Now Sparano and the rest of the coaching staff can look at the film and see what needs to be fixed and what acquisitions need to be made, because clearly something needs to happen.
"I'm just a player trying to do what I'm told"--Brandon Marshall
"Ima take my talents to South Beach"--LeBron James
"Here comes the giant royal penis"--Dan LeBatard
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"I make onions cry"--Tom Brandstater
Great write up
Our OL needs to be fixed and if it isnt we will be royally f’ed
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nice job, I have been worried about our run game and a bad O-line with no real feature type RB spells disaster, seems to me that we have 3 good O-linemen and one of them is a rookie who is still learning, with a bunch of complimentary RBs, none of whom imo are NFL starters.
Henne looked good, thats encouraging, but I have always thought that Henne looked his best when he has no time to think.
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Yeah hopefully he can just let loose this year
Henning held him back for the past two years, and now with Daboll, we are slowly seeing Henne unravel his actual potential. I know its just pre-seaso, but ive liked what Ive seen so far…..too bad we have to play NE for the first game.
"I'm just a player trying to do what I'm told"--Brandon Marshall
"Ima take my talents to South Beach"--LeBron James
"Here comes the giant royal penis"--Dan LeBatard
Officially strapped on to Ryan "El Capitan" Lindley's bandwagon 2012
"I make onions cry"--Tom Brandstater
"I have always thought that Henne looked his best when he has no time to think"
Thanks for putting into words what I have noticed myself. He has the physical gifts.
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He played before my time but one of the toughest SOBs to ever play!
Misi needs to get better or be replaced as well.
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The RB's get a pass from me...
I wouldn’t hold any one of them responsible for their production (or lack thereof) considering it wasn’t about them not hitting holes…it’s more about them not having holes to hit. It seemed like defenders were in their faces as soon as they got the ball…If the line improves then I wouldn’t even worry. Hopefully TS is right and it’s fixable.
Haters gon' hate...
Anyone else see that 3 of the sacks came from the left side were Long would be
by 2nd Gen Phin Fan on Aug 29, 2011 5:51 AM EDT reply actions
I'm not too worried about that
With Long back in the mix, Henne’ll be safe on his blind side like always, I’m really worried about the right side though.
"I'm just a player trying to do what I'm told"--Brandon Marshall
"Ima take my talents to South Beach"--LeBron James
"Here comes the giant royal penis"--Dan LeBatard
Officially strapped on to Ryan "El Capitan" Lindley's bandwagon 2012
"I make onions cry"--Tom Brandstater
Jared Odrick
Was superb 1v1. Can’t hold him back much longer.
by aso513 on Aug 29, 2011 11:24 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
yea
i do not know what to do with the line because all three of the starters deserve their starting role
but then we have odrick who also deserves a starting spot IMO.
it pains me to say this but someone is eventually going to get frustrated and ask for a trade
Trade someone for a G
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He played before my time but one of the toughest SOBs to ever play!
Great Analysis and Awesome Organization: Rec'd
From your analysis of the line, here’s how I would fix the O-Line:
LT Long
LG Pouncey
C Incognito
RG Garner
RT Murtha
I would risk playing them v Dallas and play them for at least a half to build some chemistry.
I would cut Colombo and keep Carey for now dependent on whether we could pick up some backups via the cutdowns.
Definition: scatback, n., an offensive back in football who is elusive and fast. Out with the WILDCAT...and in with the WILD-SCAT:
WR _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ LT LG C RG RT TE _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ <;- - - - - - - - - - - - - SC _ _ _ _ _ WR
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ RB _ _QB (Henne) . . . . . . . . . . \_ SC = Bush/Moore/Grigsby
PS all of the linemen except Incognito are pretty athletic and would fit the scheme better too.
Hope that Chisholm gets well soon (put on PUP?)
Definition: scatback, n., an offensive back in football who is elusive and fast. Out with the WILDCAT...and in with the WILD-SCAT:
WR _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ LT LG C RG RT TE _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ <;- - - - - - - - - - - - - SC _ _ _ _ _ WR
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ RB _ _QB (Henne) . . . . . . . . . . \_ SC = Bush/Moore/Grigsby
by DolphDallas on Aug 29, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
why note pick up o'hara or gurode
and move incognito to right gaurd?
I'm all for it...but it hasn't happened yet
and may not happen
Definition: scatback, n., an offensive back in football who is elusive and fast. Out with the WILDCAT...and in with the WILD-SCAT:
WR _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ LT LG C RG RT TE _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ <;- - - - - - - - - - - - - SC _ _ _ _ _ WR
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ RB _ _QB (Henne) . . . . . . . . . . \_ SC = Bush/Moore/Grigsby
I would like to cut Colombo
I honestly feel like he was a bad mistake, but he has $1 million guaranteed. Carey I would like him to move back to RT and then bring in someone like O’Hara which would be nice, because right now, our right sided is completely out of sorts
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"Ima take my talents to South Beach"--LeBron James
"Here comes the giant royal penis"--Dan LeBatard
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"I make onions cry"--Tom Brandstater
there are quite a few things that i am loving about henne this offseason
1. the audibles – do i need to say anything here? it shows that he is a leader and he knows what he is doing. being allowed to make audibles should help him tremendously this year
2. accuracy in the middle of the field – those quick precise passes are crucial. it seems like henne is starting to find the open receiver and hitting them quickly, rather than forcing it elsewhere
3. shots downfield – even if they are a tad bit overthrown it shows that he is trying to be more aggresive. and better ovethrown and nobody catches than underthrown and the defense catches
4. not forcing anything, checking it down to the running back/short to TE when he needs to, or there is pressure.
Completely agree
Here’s a good article on Henne’s ability at the line http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/08/28/2379633/freedom-reigns.html
Which includes a short summary of the audible on seconds: 0:01-0:20
"I'm just a player trying to do what I'm told"--Brandon Marshall
"Ima take my talents to South Beach"--LeBron James
"Here comes the giant royal penis"--Dan LeBatard
Officially strapped on to Ryan "El Capitan" Lindley's bandwagon 2012
"I make onions cry"--Tom Brandstater
Moore & Wallace; every week were makeing 1st downs & just makeing plays period!
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by wild zion beaver on Sep 3, 2011 1:08 PM EDT reply actions
IMO that's been the best competition in pre-season
and not just at the games, Wallace and Moore also went at it at practice. They’re good friends so I’m guessing they push each other to do well.
"I'm just a player trying to do what I'm told"--Brandon Marshall
"Ima take my talents to South Beach"--LeBron James
"Here comes the giant royal penis"--Dan LeBatard
Officially strapped on to Ryan "El Capitan" Lindley's bandwagon 2012
"I make onions cry"--Tom Brandstater
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