2011 Miami Dolphins Depth Chart Bubble Watch #2
by Kevin Nogle on Aug 28, 2011 9:00 AM EDT
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Three weeks ago, we took a look at the Dolphins' roster and developed who should make the final cuts. Now, three weeks later, the team is facing their first set of roster cuts on Monday. Every NFL team must be down to an 80-man roster, from the 90 men they are allowed to carry now, by Monday, with the final roster cuts, to get down to the 53-man roster, four days later.
With these roster cuts getting ready to start coming quickly, it's time to relook the possible 53-man roster.
To remind you, this is not necessarily how I see the roster ending up. This is not necessarily a true "depth chart." This is how I see the roster right at this moment, if all the roster cuts were completed today, giving us a 53-man roster.
The biggest issue with a lot of the decisions is trying to guess where the Dolphins will accept risk, and where they will carry the extra guy.
Another consideration is who is eligible for the practice squad, and who would I try to snatch off someone's PPS if I were another team's GM. That's the sole reason why I think Pat Devlin makes the team. He's not ready to be an NFL quarterback, but he could develop. And, if Miami puts him on the PS, he's going to be signed by someone who can afford to stash him on their 53-man roster.
And then there are acorns. From the history of the Dolphins over the last few years, Tony Sparano and Jeff Ireland are going to be active as players get released. It is very possible that a lot of these players will not make the team simply because the Dolphins found some other team's cut to replace them .
On to the roster:
First Team
Second Team
Third/Fourth Team
QB
Chad Henne
Matt Moore
Pat Devlin
RB
Reggie Bush
Daniel Thomas
Lex Hilliard / Larry Johnson
FB
Lousaka Polite
Charles Clay
WR
Brandon Marshall
Davone Bess
Marlon Moore
WR
Brian Hartline
Clyde Gates
TE
Anthony Fasano
Mickey Shuler
LT
Jake Long
Lydon Murtha
LG
Richie Incognito
C
Mike Pouncey
Joe Berger
RG
John Jerry
Vernon Carey
RT
Marc Colombo
Nate Garner
First Team
Second Team
Third/Fourth Team
LDE
Kendall Langford
Tony McDaniel
Phillip Merling
NT
Paul Soliai
Frank Kearse
RDE
Randy Starks
Jared Odrick
LOLB
Koa Misi
Jason Taylor
Ikaika Alama-Francis
LILB
Kevin Burnett
A.J. Edds
RILB
Karlos Dansby
Austin Spitler
ROLB
Cameron Wake
Jason Trusnik
CB
Sean Smith
Benny Sapp
CB
Vontae Davis
Jimmy Wilson
Nate Ness
S
Yermiah Bell
Tyrone Culver
S
Chris Clemens
Reshad Jones
First Team
Second Team
Third/Fourth Team
K
Dan Carpenter
P
Brandon Fields
LS
John Denney
Last 5 On: Mickey Shuler, Frank Kearse, Nate Ness, Ikaika Alama-Francis, Marlon Moore
First 5 Off: Nic Grigsby, Phillip Livas, Brett Brackett , Nolan Carroll, Will Allen
Next 5 Off: Ray Feinga, Jeron Mastrud, Ryan Baker, Allen Barbre, Ronald Field
Notes:
- I think Nic Grigsby could make the roster if Reggie Bush and Daniel Thomas had the experience as a feature back that the Dolphins appear to be trying to find. With the signing of Larry Johnson, I think there's a very good chance Grigsby ends up on the practice squad.
- I go back and forth between keeping Mastrud or Shuler. I give then nod to Shuler right now, simply because the Dolphins have him listed ahead of Mastrud on their most recent depth chart.
- Brackett almost makes the team as well, but I think due to Clay's ability to eventually become a portion of the tight end rotation, it makes carrying three tight ends unlikely.
- I worry about Livas. I think he has some talent, and could make this team any year before this year. But, with the new NFL kick off rule, the need for a kick return specialist is gone. Hopefully he can be stashed on the practice squad.
- I'm still very uncomfortable with the offensive line. I slid Jerry into the "first team" role and, even though this isn't supposed to be a true depth chart projection, I am beginning to think it's possible he beats out Carey. Although, neither one of them look good. I would not be at all surprised if Jerry starts at right guard, Carey pics up right tackle again, Colombo becomes the backup right tackle, and Garner serves as the number two right guard and the number three right tackle. I also let Ray Feinga go, losing a backup left guard. But, I think Miami has enough flexibility to put someone else in there if need be.
- Kearse could fall through and end up on the practice squad, in which case, Fields makes it back on the team. But, I think the Dolphins will keep Kearse due to his size and to allow him to develop behind Soliai.
- I think Carroll is the odd man out at cornerback. Someone has to go, and I just think Sapp and Ness will end up making the team, and Carroll is shown the door.
- I tried hard to find a way to Will Allen, but just don't see it. I think Allen's days in Miami may be numbered, which is sad because last night he actually looked pretty good on the field.
Well, that's my swing at the 53-man roster. Tell me what you think.
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Wallace, where is Wallace?
Did Moore just completely dominate the Buc game to the point Wallace’s ATL game paled in comparison?
Murtha needs to be the RT. We need to know what we have in him and him sitting the bench won’t tell us that. We need to know if we have to draft a RT.
Ness hasn’t played well all PS, while Carrol has had his moments. Sapp also needs to go, Allen should take Sapp’s place if Allen keeps up his play. I would also like Agnew to make the 53 or PS. IF he gets on the 53, IAF should be cut.
Gigsby to PS, so he will be the last 5 off. We will see him on the roster until the cut to 53. We also shouldn’t carry 4 HBs. I think the move for Johnson was just to get a guy that might light it up, but might just be a camp body.
We also need 4 OGs.
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Wallace is a core ST guy...not sure that doesn't save him
Sapp and Ness over Allen and Carroll?.
There’s no way to forecast this now, but I have a hard time seeing that group as the O-Line….thinking there will be some FA activity in the next 7 days.
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by PhrozenPhish on Aug 28, 2011 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions
I said Allen, Carroll, and Agnew over Sapp, Ness and IAF.
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I know...sorry I was questioning Mosul's list not yours.
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by PhrozenPhish on Aug 28, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice list..always tough and can be very subjective.
Noticed Will Allen is gone. It’s a shame but I have to agree. You just have a lot of young guys that can contribute either this year or next..and keeping what you feel could be a talent is a must in the league. Wallace, that was mentioned before my post is a head scratcher. He will be on the 53. I think when we drafted Gates, whose had his drops, Moore, Pruitt we’re automatically thrown on the hot seat to produce or else. Carroll, is a special teams guy, above Ness and equal to Culver. If Allen is released, Carroll makes the squad just by ST alone. I actually had Culver being cut, due to Jones being the better talent. But Culver is a core ST guy. OL play, I’m clueless..so much turnover, so much inconsistency…I concur on what you deem fit. Ha. Well Done. as always.
by Phins4life2334 on Aug 28, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Wallace's ST prowess will be what keeps him on the team
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Haven't been able to watch any preseason games b/c of where I live,
but I haven’t heard anyone say anything positive about Jerry’s play this year. Even read some people saying he’s this regime’s worst draft pick thus far. Very disappointing that Sparano’s bread and butter is the OL and they’re in shackles right now. I’d rather see Will Allen make the team as the vet CB. He’s seen limited action so far but he did have a would-be safety sack if it wasn’t for JT’s penalty.
Kearse is another one I’d be skeptical about. I think they could stash him on the PS to develop and give him a shot next year or if there’s an injury. Hoping they can find a way to fix the right side of the OL before week one though, or we could be in some trouble.
My biggest Lyndon Murtha fear
That Tony will not start him at RT nor give him a shot because of pride bringing in Columbo.
Fire Dan Henning!
Draft Wisienski, Pouncey and DJ Williams.
He could just say that the only reason Columbo started was because Long was out
and the best OT plays LT.
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the best thing for the dolphins
I what you just mentioned. Murtha to RT w/ Columbo being his back up. Talking OL makes me sick… considering the Jets have 3 pro bowlers and blue/red chip players. D’Brick, Mangold, and Moore. Sorry i brought up the Jets…i hate when others compare and here I am doing it myself. Gr8 point mentioning Tony’s alliance w/ ex Cowgirls
by Phins4life2334 on Aug 28, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't think that's the case
Colombo might start the season at RT but only because of lack of game reps for Murtha. I think Murtha takes that job at some point in the season.
by BULLieving in Miami on Aug 28, 2011 10:55 AM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions
We've seen it Columbo is done
He cant pass protect anymore and Carey cant run block. We just need to go Garner at RG and Murtha at RT. Keep 1 out of Carey/Columbo
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by Souwantmyname on Aug 28, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
^^^^^^This^^^^^^^^ x 1000
Nobody hurt a tackler like Zonk did.
by rintintinsoldier on Aug 29, 2011 6:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Read this quote and tell me him adding Colombo to this statement doesnt scare you
When I asked Sparano why this year’s team could be different than the back-to-back 7-9 teams, he mentioned that this team has more "closers" than his previous teams here. Translation: Players who can make a real difference with the game on the line in the fourth quarter. He singled out Reggie Bush, Kevin Burnett, Jason Taylor and Marc Colombo as examples. Win those close games and that’s how 7-9 becomes 11-5.
Fire Dan Henning!
Draft Wisienski, Pouncey and DJ Williams.
non-sense!
1. jerry will be lucky to make it off the bus my friend…he is horrible!and thats being really nice!
2.culver,polite,shuler,johnson,ness,all will be churned!kearse to PS.
3.fields makes team.
4. also believe you will see some new faces in town this week on OL.
5. BOOK I
You'll have to look at guys that just didn't get any playing time
due to the fact that they want to protect those guys so other teams can’t get film on them. and the young RB gigsby
by Phins4life2334 on Aug 28, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Not getting to see many pre-season games up here, but...
Looks like NFL Network has the replay of the Miami-Tampa Bay game on at midnight…so I’ll PVR it and see what’s going on.
I too would like to hear your reasoning on Wallace not making the roster.
As much as I hate to see it, I can see us getting some OLine help from the other teams’ castoffs…I know it takes time for an O-line to gel…but we can’t go another 16 game season and wait. I think we’re going to need to draft some serious O-line help in 2012. I think Henne might just surprise us this year…I certainly hope so.
From what I’m hearing, I’m not sure Polite will be around…I’m liking what I’m hearing about Clay.
I REALLY want to see this line with Long back in it…
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It was a numbers thing....
I don’t think the Dolphins can keep more than 5 WRs.
Marshall, Bess, Hartline are locks.
Gates seems to be locked as well.
Leaving me 1 spot for Livas, Wallace, Moore, Pruitt and Carter. Of those, Moore is the most likely to make the team.
Wallace had 3 catches for 60 yards and a touchdown against the Falcons. Since, he hasn’t caught a ball. Nothing in the last two games. Not exactly screaming for a roster spot.
Meanwhile, Moore has 5 receptions for 80 yards, with at least 1 catch in each game thus far. Seems to be a bigger part of the offense.
Could Wallace make the team? Sure. And, I probably should have listed him in the last 10 to be cut, but I don’t see him making the team, right now.
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by Kevin Nogle on Aug 28, 2011 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions
With the complete lack of talent that we have at TE outside Fasano I think the Phins keep 6 WR
We will not/should not see as many 2 TE sets this year
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by Souwantmyname on Aug 28, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
If it makes anyone fell better, the Pats OL sucks too.
http://www.patspulpit.com/2011/8/27/2388989/quick-take-lions-34-patriots-10
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The Pats O-line looked pretty good against this Tampa D last week.
That doesn’t make me feel any better!!!
The Pats OL has problems against big DL. Enter Soliai....
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Absolutely makes me feel better.
I will enjoy watching the Lions feasting on the pats regardless of how it reflects on us.
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by PhrozenPhish on Aug 28, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
doesnt make me feel better -
NE has talen and Depth on thier OL
by scrappy the wildcat on Aug 28, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Even with that talent, a good DL got the best of them. It happens
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THANK YOU....
Finally, someone agrees..
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by dolger14 on Aug 28, 2011 2:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
We should put Garner at RG and Murtha at RT
They couldn’t be any worse than Colombo and Carey
IMO we have quite a dilemma at WR...
I think Moore is a bit better as a receiver, but Wallace has outstanding size and is a key contributor on ST. It will be interesting to see who they keep. Right now I am happy with either one, but I am really hoping another team has to cut a TE who we like. Maybe GB cause they have a few quality receiving TEs…
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If both Moore and Wallace look that good we should keep both.
Trade one to a team that needs WR help. Then maybe we can get a RT or RG that can do his job.
No one is going to give up a quality G or T for a 5th or 6th WR.
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by Kevin Nogle on Aug 28, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions
In other words, Quality.
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So you want someone who can start in the NFL?
For a 5th or 6th WR or hasn’t proven anything in the NFL yet.
I’m going with you are looking to get quality G or T for unproven-quality WR.
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by Kevin Nogle on Aug 28, 2011 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
I was thinking more along the lines of a young G or T who has looked good in preseason but has little chance of playing because of the talent of the starter.
There has got to be a team out there that either sees potential in Moore at WR or Merling at DE, willing to give up a guy that has enough upside to start in this league.
Agree completely
But, cap issues and roster limits are going to put some vet O-linemen on the market shortly (Tuesday)
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by PhrozenPhish on Aug 28, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
keep carroll, ness is gone
I would possibly keep wallace as our 6th wr but I do like moore at 5.
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by BSerious72 on Aug 28, 2011 10:05 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I dont think we can keep 6 without losing some of our outstanding D Line depth...
although we can still trade one of those lineman for help at other positions. So, I can see us losing a D Lineman, but dont think it will be to keep 6 WRs
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Or, we could keep 6 WRs and only 3 HBs......
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I thought about that too...
Lose Johnson, keep Wallace….but I see it more likely to keep 4 RBs.
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by Kevin Nogle on Aug 28, 2011 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Why, when we are keeping 2 FBs (Clay can play HB in a Maryland I).
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I think Johnson makes the team based on the fact that he is the only RB on the roster with the experience of being a workload back
And he can actually mentor Thomas on how to be a runner on the field…
And, the will keep Lex Hilliard.
So that’s all four.
Clay gives them some flexibility, but so does Hilliard, since he can be a FB as well.
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by Kevin Nogle on Aug 28, 2011 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
I'd take Hilliard over Johnson.
Hilliard is a good short yardage back. He is also good in the passing game. He can catch and block very well and, to me, that locks a roster spot for him.
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Agree
If Johnson does get cut, I have no issue with that. I just think they will keep him.
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by Kevin Nogle on Aug 28, 2011 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Polite is gone imo
He failed to convert on his 3rd and 1 and actually lost a yard. He was also whistled for a holding call which he deserved
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by Souwantmyname on Aug 28, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
what about cutting Culver?
Jimmy Wilson can double as a backup safety and he looks like he can possibly excel back there.
by BULLieving in Miami on Aug 28, 2011 11:01 AM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions
Its not just you so dont take it the wrong way but
Wilson hasnt had ANY reps at safety this pre-season. The plan was to switch him at safety after giving him a quick look at corner but WIlson kept making plays at CB. Wilson cant just play the position without playing it at all
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by Souwantmyname on Aug 28, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
my thoughts
Wallace makes it over moore.
Berger is cut, but we keep another guard, Incog can play C if necessary.
No way jerry starts.
I’d rather they cut culver and keep carroll because wilson and smith can play safety if neccessary
I agree with evreyon else.
Btw, I think brackett and agnew make the PS
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by AnishB15 on Aug 28, 2011 10:16 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Why does everyone want Smith at FS?
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I don't
But I’m just saying he can play safety if we have too many injuries there
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by AnishB15 on Aug 28, 2011 10:21 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yes, but then we have a gaping hole at CB.
Jones can play FS. And Culver too. I don’t thnk we lose 3 FSs this year.
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Tyen he won't play safety
I’m just saying he has the ability to play safety in case of emergancy, I am not saying I want him to, but he can in an emergancy
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by AnishB15 on Aug 28, 2011 10:25 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yes, and so does Davis.
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Right.
I think Burnett used to play safety too for that matter.
In HS
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by Kevin Nogle on Aug 28, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
He's too big now, I think.
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It was a joke because people always want sean to go to Safety.
I figure Burnett has more experience at the position than Sean :^)
i never said I wanted sean at safety
I just said he knows how to play safety
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by AnishB15 on Aug 28, 2011 11:58 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Should have put it like this.
I think Burnett used to play safety too for that matter.
also
Maybe we cut berger to keep moore and wallace. Grigsby makes PS as well
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by AnishB15 on Aug 28, 2011 10:19 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
If we cut an OL, we will pick up an OL.
As Mosul has it now, we are one short on the OL.
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Yeah, going with 9 OLs scares me....
Going down to 8 would be really bad…
Just for the rest during the game alone.
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by Kevin Nogle on Aug 28, 2011 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Incog, garner and Jerry all have the versatality to play multiple positions
This should allow us to keep only 8 O-lineman, which all we need
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by AnishB15 on Aug 28, 2011 10:23 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
That is veyr low, considering Garner and Jerry shouldn't be starting.
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They will only play in case of emergancy
Murtha, Garner and Jerry are fine as the backups
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by AnishB15 on Aug 28, 2011 10:27 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
No such thing...
Every lineman will play every game. You can’t have a lineman out there for every snap. They wear down. They have to take plays off.
8, and even 9, is hard to keep your line healthy.
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by Kevin Nogle on Aug 28, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
I didn't think you had to rotate your OL.
For some reason the OL doesn’t wear down during the course of the game like the DL. Which is why you have HBs that get better as the game goes on. Their OL is still fresh, while the DL is getting fatigued.
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I see alot changing when other teams make some cuts. there will be better RB's than L.J. to pick up.
Very, very possible.
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by Kevin Nogle on Aug 28, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
He's right about the RBs. Just look at Dallas. They have 4 or 5 fighting it out. We will probably pick up who ever they cut. IMO
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by FinFanFromCA on Aug 28, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, if Dallas cuts them, it's a given we will pick them up....
Unless Chicago calls them first.
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by Kevin Nogle on Aug 28, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
i dont see the intrigue
Bush/Hilliard/Thomas/Clay should be our entire RB core
With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Aug 28, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Steve Slaton over Larry Johnson
Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!
by Dave.Phuller on Aug 28, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
That's more a reference to the Dolphins signing anyone and everyone who once wore a star on their helmet....
Than to the actual RBs.
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I'd rather see us only keep 3 HBs.
It seems like we have very good WRs battling for the=at last WR spot and we should keep both.
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I'd rather see Thomas, Bush and LJ as RB
Hilliard as HB/FB and Clay as FB/TE. Allowing us to have an extra spot for a WR
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by AnishB15 on Aug 28, 2011 10:43 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You didn't cut anyone...
You just added FB to Hilliard and TE to Clay….
Still same number of guys. So, no additional WR.
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by Kevin Nogle on Aug 28, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
lol
Mercenaries never die. They just go to hell to regroup. - Unknown. I dont always make paradoxes, but when i do, i don't.- Brock Obama. Leading the fighter escort of SU-47s for the Lindley Bandwagon "pm striker king"- WZB.
Unless is Polite that you cut
Which I see as having 0% chance of happening.
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by Kevin Nogle on Aug 28, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah
I see them cutting polite or trading him and a pick for a good RT
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Chad Henne for the 2012 pro bowl
Vontae Davis and Sean Smith = Sam Madison and Patrick Surtain 2.0
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All hail the mighty brandstater
by AnishB15 on Aug 28, 2011 11:16 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Polite is gone
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Chad Henne for the 2012 pro bowl
Vontae Davis and Sean Smith = Sam Madison and Patrick Surtain 2.0
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by AnishB15 on Aug 28, 2011 11:17 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
After last year's performance and this disappointing pre-season he's gone
With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Aug 28, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
He hasn't been disappointing this preseason.
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by uncle finster on Aug 29, 2011 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Hope you power is not gone, & if it is hope it cums back realsoon!
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by wild zion beaver on Aug 29, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
This front office loves players that play mutiple positions
We have on offense Clay, HB, FB, TE, Incognito, G and C, Pounsey, G and C, Bush HB and WR, defense has Taylor, LB and DE, Starks, NT and DE, Wilson CB and S, Jones,. S and CB, I think we can keeep 4 HB and ^ receiver. I think Polite is gone and Lex goes to that position wi Clay as back up, 8 OL, may trade 1 DL for a better OG.
hartline is overrated.
package up hartline and merling for a solid olinemen and keep moore, wallace, kearse and fields. i think in time kearse is quick enuff to play both NT and DE. moore and wallace, both are better than hartline. merling hasnt done anything since he was drafted in the 2nd. rd.
Completely disagree
Look at what happened to the Phins season immediately after Hartline was injured in the Browns game.
indeed
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Need a reason to explain.
So turn it on again.
Don't change your mind.
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by Patssuck456 on Aug 28, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
What happened?
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by uncle finster on Aug 29, 2011 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh he didn't make "the pro-bowl" well that can all be rectafied, new season new plan!
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by wild zion beaver on Aug 29, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
i see us picking up o line help.
also, i think we are not done at rb, bush and daiels are in. i dont see johnson making it. hilliard makes it only because he can play hb and fb. dont be surprised if we end up with another rb from another team.
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"i still believe henne is the qb for the dolphins and so on......." - texphinphan
I've heard rumors
Ronnie Brown might be cut in Philly…
Ive heard Steve Slaton in Houston.
He is a good goal line RB.
no hes a good scat back type
hes a reggie bush type back that’s a step slower. I want him in here because he brings depth at speed back if Bush goes down. Also whenever Bush needs a break you know were not going to have that big of a RB recieving threat out there.
I got S + What a Dog's Tail Does.
Bring back Pat White. He is the chosen one.
I think we would benefit from having 6 WRs
Moore could be used in slot with Bess on 4 or 5 WR sets and Wallace can be key STs player and red zone threat. We should only keep 2 TEs due to the lack of talent. My depth chart would be this:
WR: Marshall, Bess, Hartline, Gates, Moore, Wallace
TE: Fasano, Shuler, Clay
RB: Bush, Thomas, Slaton, Hilliard
FB: Clay/Hilliard
Slaton is another speed back this team needs if Bush needs a breather or gets injured. Hilliard can be a goal line back but also blocked some at FB last year. Clay can block at FB and go TE in 2 TE sets. Shuler is our best blocker.
I got S + What a Dog's Tail Does.
Bring back Pat White. He is the chosen one.
I think Clay's blocking at FB has been good enough that LPolite might be gone
He’s a bigger threat on screens and play-action leads, about the only part of his game which remains unproven is lead blocking in short yardage. When you get right down to it we can put a lineman in there…how would Odrick do as a Mike Vrabel type on O?
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by PhrozenPhish on Aug 28, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Clay's blocking has been bad.
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by uncle finster on Aug 29, 2011 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Two issues...
You added a WR without removing someone. Can’t do it. Have to stay at 53.
Second, I can’t assume Slaton on the team. I can only go with whom we actually have.
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i removed polite and johnson
I got S + What a Dog's Tail Does.
Bring back Pat White. He is the chosen one.
by Va FinFan on Aug 28, 2011 3:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
How he can not get a single yd. Chyt he is the king of the single yd!
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by wild zion beaver on Aug 29, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Isn't it 54 this year?
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by uncle finster on Aug 29, 2011 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Wallace and Carroll for Ness and LJ. Carey will start over Jerry
I think we keep Polite, he is our best blocking FB by far
WE WINNING THE SUPERBOWL DON'T MATTER IF HENNE SUCK DON'T MATTER IF REGGIE NOT A FEATURE BACK DON'T MATTER IF WE NEED A BETTER TIGHT END DON'T MATTER IF COLOMBO SUCK DON'T MATTER IF WE NEED A BETTER SAFETY DON'T MATTER IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE
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My Evolving Two Cents
Offense 25
SE Marshall 6-4 230, Bess 5-10 190, Wallace 6-4 225,
LT Long 6-7 317, Garner 6-7 325,
LG Pouncey 6-5 303, Berger 6-5 311
C Incognito 6-3 324,
RG Carey 6-5 340, Feinga 6-4 337
RT Murtha 6-7 315, Colombo 6-8 320
TE Fasano 6-4 255, Clay 6-3 239
QB Henne 6-3 230, Matt Moore 6-3 202, O’Connell 6-5 225
RB Bush 5-11 203, Thomas 6-1 228, Grigsby 5-10 190
FB Hilliard 5-11 240, Polite 6-0 245
FL Hartline 6-2 186, Gates 5-11 197, Marlon Moore 6-0 190,
Defense 25
LDE Langford 6-6 290, McDaniel 6-7 310,
NT Soliai 6-4 345, Fields 6-2 314
RDE Starks 6-3 305, Odrick 6-5 304, Merling 6-4 295
LOLB Misi 6-3 251, Alama-Francis 6-5 275
LILB Dansby 6-4 250, Trusnik 6-4 250
RILB Burnett 6-3 240, Edds 6-4 246
ROLB Wake 6-3 250, Taylor 6-6 250 (if wake were dinged up, this is where JT would play.
LC Davis 5-11 203, Allen 5-10 195, Carroll 5-11 204,
RC Smith 6-3 214, Sapp 5-9 190,
SS Bell 6-0 205, Jones 6-1 214 (backs up both FS and SS)
FS Clemons 6-1 210, Wilson 5-11 185, Agnew 5-10 192
Definition: scatback, n., an offensive back in football who is elusive and fast. Out with the WILDCAT...and in with the WILD-SCAT:
WR _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ LT LG C RG RT TE _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ <- - - - - - - - - - - - - SC _ _ _ _ _ WR
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ FB _ _QB (Henne) . . . . . . . . . . \_ SC = Bush/Gates/Grigsby
Not bad DolphDallas Alives is history then!
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by wild zion beaver on Aug 28, 2011 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions
good list
but there’s a couple things I disagree with. Grigsby will most likely be on the PS. He hasn’t gotten any snaps with starters and hasn’t stood out vs. 2nd and 3rd stringers. We’ll probably bring somebody in. I think Polite will be cut and Clay and Hilliard will be the FBs. Fasano and probably Shuler will be the TEs with Clay being the recieving option. I liked that you kept 6 WRs
On defense, Taylor has been starting at LOLB, splitting time with Misi. Wake is a 3 down OLB. Alama-Francis I think is backup on that side. Trusnik is an OLB also, so we’ll probably bring back Mitchell or Spitler. Wilson is a CB. Jones is a FS.
I got S + What a Dog's Tail Does.
Bring back Pat White. He is the chosen one.
Grigsby HAS stood out.
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by uncle finster on Aug 29, 2011 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions
God Dammit!!!
For the last time Wilson is NOT a safety
With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Aug 28, 2011 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Two things...
Wilson was a CB and when he came back from jail, he played safety at Montana.
He showed some skills at CB, so they left him there instead of moving him to safety.
We have too much depth at CB: assuming we keep Allen, Sapp, and Carroll.
Hence, we keep Wison on the roster because we have too little quality depth at S.
He learns on the go, but never sees the field unless it is dime defense when he is a CB/S nickel back anyway.
Clemons and Rashad Jones cover both safety positions.
Definition: scatback, n., an offensive back in football who is elusive and fast. Out with the WILDCAT...and in with the WILD-SCAT:
WR _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ LT LG C RG RT TE _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ <- - - - - - - - - - - - - SC _ _ _ _ _ WR
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ FB _ _QB (Henne) . . . . . . . . . . \_ SC = Bush/Gates/Grigsby
by DolphDallas on Aug 29, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
he is gonna be a star of eppic proportion we cant find a spot for him!
wopper "the king" computer
We often look rite past the positive's cuz the negative's-r-so hard they dominate! Have you touched & preened your beaver-pelt today?
by wild zion beaver on Aug 29, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I am calling Clay to beat out Lousaka Polite....
Larry Johnson is the short yardage man. He can also catch out of the backfield. I hope that they cut Berger… I would rather us keep Garner as a backup center and instead keep Willis at T. Roberto Wallace then makes the team. If nothing changes, we keep Nolan Carroll over Nate Ness. The only thing I can’t figure out is how they are going to keep Livas then.. I think he has been so solid there. If he breaks another one during the preseason, you really have to find a way to keep him though… don’t you?
Prove everyone that said you weren't a franchise QB wrong, Henne. "WE WANT HENNE!!" GO PHINS!! What can I say I am a homer, I have come to terms with that and accepted it. I predict 10-6 and a wildcard berth. Jets got worse this year when they lost Ellis to the Patriots. The Patriots are going to be more solid on defense this year than they have in the past.
by Jason Scott_90 on Aug 28, 2011 10:20 PM EDT reply actions
Another year another question mark at OL..
What is needed is Long back in with Carey back at RT… Move Pouncey to LG and Incognito ti C while signing O’Hara to play RG..
Idk, it may seem like too many moves for a OL that needs to settle but its getting ridiculous at this point. Say what you want but hire a new OL coach and keep Sparano out of its business..
Ranting…. But Henne looked really good vs Bucs btw (went to the game)
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