The Case For Tim Tebow - aka The Dolphins and Tebow Part 1

Started 40 games in his college career going 34-8 and 4-0 in Bowl games.
Who threw for 52 TDs and ran for 47 more with a 64 % completion average and a 147.8 career passer rating
Who had 6,049 yds passing and 4480 yds rushing in his career.
Who was the MVP of 3 of the 4 Bowl games he won, including a 48-28 win over Oklahoma in the Fiesta Bowl wherein he threw for 179 . 2Tds and rushed for 150.
Was the MVP of the Senior Bowl

Clearly a winner. Clearly a superior athlete who can run and throw and rises to the challenge in big games. Clearly exactly the guy who could be a triggerman in the Wildcat and give NFL defences a run/pass threat to lose sleep over.

Would you take this player?

Funny thing

We did.

His name is Pat White.

there is no way they are trading Tebow, he was last years 1st round pick, Orton will probably be gone at the end of the season.

Tebow will not be traded for anything less than a top 15 pick and then some.

Tebow is a loser, yes I said loser. I don’t care what he did at Florida, besides cry on the sidelines. We need football players and a QB who is accurate and Tebow is not accurate. It was a joke that Denver moved up in the draft to take a QB that would surely have been there in round five. His skill set was questioned going in to that draft and has been proven out. He is number three behind Brady Quinn. That should say something right there. We don’t need him.

I don;t love him or hate him.

Look he was a great COLLEGE QB. I never thought that would translate to the NFL.

Personally I think he’s a nice kid, but I just don;t see him as an NFL QB unless you are going to do some kind of gimmick, stunt Wildcat QB guy…….which I don’t like that idea…. but i think he could do that for 10 snaps a game and he wouldn;t break like Pat White.

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this might be the post that finally drives me to Finheaven.com

As far as people leaving the site to go anywhere especially Finheaven.com let them go. They will be back soon enough. You have done a fantastic job thusfar upon you taking the reins on this site keeping us informed and giving us a ton of information. Can’t find this anywhere else. My hat is off to the effort you are putting in here for all of us. A major thank you first and foremost.

Now onto Tebow. I am a rare middle person when it comes to Tebow as well. I agree with the post when it says if he is released we should try him out. I don’t get the hatred for the guy. We ALL are on board with we need a TE who can stretch the field. He has TE size and speed. He plays physical and is a good leader. What is wrong with any of that? Also, he is left handed making him in the Wildcat a formidible problem for opposing defenses. I am thinking that alone would be a matchup nightmare. If released and fairly cheap I say get him.

I will go on record that I can’t stand Tim Tebow as a football player, but the kid, hands down, is a quality person. Anyway, here goes:

Positives – Tebow is a proven leader, has an excellent work ethic, and he’s a quality person in the locker room. You’ve never heard a discouraging word about the kid as a person. He’s both mentally and physically tough, and around the goal line, he has a nose for the end zone when the ball is in his hands. He proved that at Florida, and to a degree, proved that in Denver last season.

As a football player, however, here are the negatives:

- tends to have a long, loopy throwing motion
- poor accuracy
- doesn’t have the strongest arm (and IMHO, I don’t believe the kid can make all the NFL throws)
- stares down his primary receiver all too often

I wouldn’t give up a pick for the kid, personally. If Denver cuts him, which I highly doubt (but at $8 million, that’s a ton of loot for a 3rd string QB), I would pick him up via FA, but there’s no chance I’d waste a pick on a kid who will be a 2 or 3 year project (see also Pryor, Terrel).

LOL, with all due respect Mosul, why is it that every time any team drops a player or is rumored to be on the cusp we think the Fins are going to pick him up? Sure this is all speculation, but, c’mon guys….This isn’t Lincoln Logs where you put together anything you want. In less than 3 weeks the season starts. The players we have are soon to be set. Cuts are happening shortly. No one has time to fit in another Lego piece when final evaluations and cuts are needed. This FO is not going to even consider this. Too much in $$ or picks or both. We need some reality here. With all the “up in arms” controversy we seem to post with every interception, fumble, dump pass, trip to a buffet, we need to come to earth and realize that whether we like it or not, or 53 guys are the ones on the practice field NOW. Not somewhere in Denver or BFE. Anyway, like who we have now or not, I’m rooting for us with whoever come game day, bottom-line. Let’s kick some Patsy ass!

I haven’t seen someone take a beating like that since Chris Brown beat Rihanna. (Too soon?) Everyone is so anti even at the MENTION of signing Tebow. Wonder if the same people hate Chad Henne too. Why can we just give these QB’s a chance?

wow so much hate for a what if kinda question.. none of this is fact so why such a reaction. just stay why it would good or bad to have him then move on.. keep the OMG moments to your self.

as for the post. i am also one of them rare middle of the road fans when it comes to him. since i dont follow the broncos i dont really know that much about the kid. so i really have no opinion about him good or bad.

as my great grand pappy use to say: nothing gets a man into more trouble then his mouth.

ESPN’s Chris Mortensen reported earlier tonight on Monday Night Countdown that the Broncos recently gave Tebow a check for $6.7 million, part of the guaranteed money in his first-round rookie deal. Said Mort of Tebow, "They’re not about to trade him, they’re not about to release him."

Each year there are thousands of great football players in college, and abroad as well…Few get the chance to play/start in college, while many, nearly as good, get lost in depth-chart obscurity. There are a plenty of amazing talents who rise up each year…..But that is college…and sometimes the only differences in the D1 superstar VS a red-shirt senior, are brains, a tenth in 40 time, dedication, health, commitment, attitude, or refined skill…. Most collegiate players are all pretty good. (relative to the lay person :) )

NFL players are extremely rare…aside from injuries eliminating many hopefuls, there are very small things that separate the avergage pro-ball player with the average college player. A lot has to do with smarts, opportunity, and being in the right place at the right time…At the pro-level your strength and speed advantages from college are neutralized for the most part and you’re left with the intangibles to survive…In today’s advanced era, many players survive based on specifc skill set or scheme/coach familiarity. There is however a world of difference between the great pro-players and the average college player… and you can count these on your hand each year…. they are rare and eventually make up your NFL vets.

Also, most importantly, the NFL is a business and despite your “prior” success, it is a “what have you done for me lately” business, and these days, the developmental players have even less time to grow.

So?…..Tebow was one of the greatest college players in the history of the game… so what? He is vocal about his beliefs, so what?…. Is he a a good NFL QB?, not close, … is he a TE?, no….WR?, no…..RB?, never…. he’s a developmental guy who only has 2-3 years left to figure it out… period. He’ll be out of this league in 3 years if he is not tucked away and developed at some position…..“just like everyone else”

And don’t give me his “draft value” bullshit… there is no such thing….. you cannot predict how any young man who plays collegiate football will translate into a “professional”, because it’s way more than pro-style system, a 40 time and bench press, “college” awards…..WAY MORE!!!!!

Because it’s rare that a great athlete today has all the “tools” ; ability, potential, integrity, financial responsibility, morality, smarts, position skills, world class speed and strength….NFL teams just keep bringing in the athletic ability and see what sticks….It’s better to fill your roster with 6’5" 240 WRs that run a 4.2,,,,maybe 1 of your 5 will pan out….next year bring in another 4… and so on and so on… You can bring in all the guys with heart, smarts, and collegiate success but if they are not on par physically, they won’t last a second….

Tebow has great tools, but he is a jack of all trades and master of none. he does not fit well in today’s “specialized” league. Again, if he cannot develop at a position in the next 2-3 years, he’s gone… This leaves little time to move to TE, WR or FB…. There’s no reason why he can’t be a backup QB for 6-7 years, and end up being a Hostetler type of guy… and that’s ok…. anyone who thinks he should be a starting QB without ever playing in the NFL, just because of where he was “drafted” is a FRIGGIN IDIOT !!!!! No one deserves shit based on the draft or prior success, everyone is in the same bucket when you’re a pro…

Tebow is just like every other young man trying to make it in the NFL… and it is near impossible. There are no BUSTS coming from college, so if you by into that you probably believe everything else you see in the media….. Is Jamarcus Russell a bust?… no way…he just isn’t cut out to be a good professional football player… (The only thing bad about him, was that Oak wasted a shit-ton of time and money, shame on Oak , not Russell) IMO “BUSTS” are guys who can legitimately play in the league and f’k up their lives and careers…. but then again…. you hire a drug dealing thug to play CB and he makes two probowls and then ends up in prision…well duh? He wasn’t the bust, you hired him knowing that he didn’t come with “professional integrity”… Tebow wouldn’t be a BUST, Denver’s front office would be…. big difference. Heisman Trophy does not anoint you as a professional…and draft position doesn’t justify your compensation….wake up people.

Just because you graduate from Harvard doesn’t mean you can survive the business world…..just because you can memorize shit and get A’s on tests doesn’t mean anyone will buy anything from you, or maybe you just can’t deal with people , or lack any necessary traits to earn a living with what “you know”, in the “real” world….

You can’t look at Tebow’s past… he is a professional now, judge him on his ability….or lack there of. He’s no different than Pat Devlin, Dan Orlovsky, Sennaca Wallace, Dennis Dixon, Drew Stanton, or any young QB trying to “make it” . If you think there is a difference than you need to seriously stop listening to The MEDIA and formuate opinions for yourself based on the business of football.

Brady Quinn is better than Tebow today…..So if you are not going to talk about getting more Quinn-type QBs, like Leinart, Anderson, Gradkowski, Losman, Clasuen, Thigpen, Whitehurst etc etc etc THEN SHUT UP ALREADY ABOUT TEBOW…..!!!!!!!! and if you are insistant about talking about another average or developmental QB, WHY?

sorry for the rant…. I NEED ME SOME REAL GAMES…and SOON!
{exit soap box stage left}

Lets sign Ken Dorsey