Reggie Bush: More Than Meets The Eye
With the Miami Dolphins trading for Reggie Bush last week, it dawned on me that we may never have had a more explosive player in a Dolphins uniform. Reggie is a guy who can score from any spot on the field in a variety of ways, something we have sorely missed offensively here in Miami for what seems like forever. He's an offensive Transformer, sometimes a receiver, sometimes a running back, sometimes a punt returner. His NFL highlight reel (after the jump) is a thing of beauty, displaying his speed, vision, agility, and even some quality leaping ability (Gibril Wilson will attest to that).
But there are concerns. The injury questions are the most prominent, with Reggie missing, on average, 4 games per season since he came into the league. He's played 60 games in 5 seasons with the Saints. Last season in particular he was only available for 8 games due to a broken leg. That injury itself is also a concern. Will he still be the undeniably fast and explosive player he was? Luckily, it wasn't a ligament or tendon injury, which tend to rob players of those abilities. Broken bones heal fully without surgery, so it shouldn't be an issue going forward. There are other questions surrounding Bush, however. Take a look at his career stats. They aren't very impressive, there's no doubt about that. But we'll go deeper into that later in this post. Before we get started on what he can and cannot do, though, I want you to watch the highlight film and enjoy.
That was fun. The first thing I noticed in that video was the many different ways he scores touchdowns. Punt returns, inside runs, outside runs, pitches, reverses, downfield passes, screen passes, checkdowns, draw plays, it's essentially a list of all the possible ways points can be put on the scoreboard. And he does them all. The second thing that jumps out at you is how Reggie is practically untouchable in the open field. Even with multiple defenders nearby, he's able to make guys miss and pull away. And the third part of that video that catches my eye is the physical finishes to some of those runs. It's a part of his game he has worked on, and something that most fans do not expect from him. For every Wes Welker-esque dive for the extra yard in traffic, you see another play of him putting his shoulder into a defender (usually a DB, but still).
But what about his stats? Surely the highlight film is just a small representation of what he does, and the stat sheet will tell you everything, right? Well, yes and no. At first glance, he looks like a regular player, not posting very impressive rushing stats, and putting up solid "3rd down back" receiving stats. Even his return stats are just decent, outside of a 2008 consisting of 3 TD's and 13.5 yards per return. But, looking at his scoring summary, you can see that he puts the ball in the end zone at a pretty consistent clip. 9 total TD's as a rookie, 6 in year 2, 9 in a 10-game 2008 campaign, and 8 on the 2009 Super Bowl champs. Only 1 TD in an injury-riddled 2010 season, but before that he's been a difference maker.
What Reggie Bush really does for a team goes beyond the highlights or the stat sheet, and this is what I really want to focus on in this post. How Reggie Bush affects a defensive gameplan.
- First off, he will immediately change a team's punting strategy. No longer will we see the booming punts down the middle of the field, allowing the coverage team to pin us deep. Teams will be punting towards the sideline or really high (resulting in shorter punts), which will give us better field position. And when he does get a chance to return one, he's a threat to take it to the house, and will most likely give us good field position. Reggie can be the difference between needing a 75 yard drive or a 60 yard drive for a touchdown.
- Bush forces a defense to change what they like to do. A blitz-happy defensive coordinator must be more careful, because a well-timed screen pass to Bush against the blitz will result in an almost guaranteed long TD. A defense that plays a high percentage of straight man coverage will have to play more nickel when Bush is in the game to avoid matching a LB on him. He gives you personnel advantages whether he's in the backfield or split wide, and he can pull the defensive focus from Brandon Marshall and Davone Bess.
- He forces a defense to account for his speed and cover the entire field. If the OLB's get too far inside, they'll get beat on a sweep, something that hasn't been a threat for us in the past. If the DL gets too aggressive in their pass rush, the screen goes over their head. And if the defense plays with too many small guys to defend Bush in the passing game, he's still a threat on the interior runs, especially if the OL can get to the second level.
- He gives a legitimate threat on safe plays. A lot of times, a team will play it safe on 3rd and long and run a draw play or a screen play. It's a low risk, high reward play that doesn't put you in danger of a turnover. With Bush, the reward is much higher, and more likely. Also, when a QB needs a safety valve (see: checkdown), which we used quite often last year, throwing it to Bush still gives you the chance for chunk yardage.
- Reggie gives us formation flexibility. This is something that offensive coordinators love, because it allows them to disguise what they are doing by lining up in multiple sets with the same personnel. It's why TE's like Dallas Clark, who can play in-line or split out into the slot, are so valuable. Defenses have to stick with a base personnel set, unsure of whether or not Bush will be in the backfield, in the slot, or split wide by himself. His presence can make the defense predictable, and the offense unpredictable. That's a recipe for success that New Orleans used on the way to their Championship, and it's the same recipe we can use for at least the next 2 seasons.
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Well we were all wondering where our speed was going to come from at the HB position.
That problem is solved.
We were wondering who was going to become a dangerous return man for us.
That problem is solved.
And about his injuries…Bush claims that it was playing on turf all the time that contributed to the injuries. He wanted to find a new home where the games and practices were on grass.
Hopefully now the injury problem is solved. Good job FO.
Meh,
we’ll see, he hasn’t returned a punt for a TD in 3 years, and has a 4.8 and 6.6 avg in the last 2, which is beyond pathetic, 7.8 for his career, give me Bess and hi 9,8 career avg.
TD machine? lol, we’re paying 5 mil a year for a guy who has never had double digit TDs, lol.
Bush is STILL mostly hype, and remember what PE said;
“Don’t , don’t, don’t believe the hype”
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Nice counting finster
2008, he ran 3 punts back for td’s. And yes, I said td machine, in the Saints super bowl season, he scored 8 td’s, which was second on the team. He’s not scoring double digit touchdowns because NO spreads the ball around. But 9 twice, 8, and 6 in his first 4 years is pretty good considering how much he was utilized.
you can have Bess as the punt returner and stare at stats all day to feel better, I’ll take the guy with the proven ability to house it.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Aug 1, 2011 10:32 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
08 is 3 years ago, lol
but in 09 he had a 4.8 avg, no TDs
in 10 he had a 6.6 avg, no TDs
Those are pathetic #s, Ted Ginn can score TDs once in a blue moon, who cares.
There are a lot of punts in a game, field position is everything in many NFL games, I’ll take the guy who consistently puts my team in better field position every day and thrice on sunday.
But thats just conventional NFL wisdom talking, lol
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by uncle finster on Aug 1, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Does that include punts where he fair caught it?
Perhaps if the punter is kicking high floaters that he has to fair catch it would account for a lower average and number of TDs. No idea if fair catches are included in those numbers though.
A better stat might be to check the average net yard change after a punt when punting to Bush. No idea if that stat is kept though.
Fair catches are not part of the stats,
only punts returned are counted.
The stats are kept the same way for every body.
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by uncle finster on Aug 1, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
count again
you said he hasn’t run one back in 3 years. There hasn’t been a game played in 2011 yet. 2010, 2009, 2008 (3 TD’s).
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by Little Nicky 21 on Aug 1, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Ok, since 3 years ago, my bad.
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by uncle finster on Aug 1, 2011 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions
dont sweat UF if a player isnt "his" choice the player sucks! lol
Bush should do good things for us this year if used correctly.
Henne needs to step up
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I agree with this…one reason people didn’t like brown was his injury concern. Well Bush is on another level of injury concerns. These talks of being a primary back better be smoke in mirrors or his chances of having a healthy season is almost zero. when one of your difference makers can’t stay healthy it a big problem.
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by 54 on Aug 1, 2011 11:36 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
True.
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by uncle finster on Aug 1, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Also NO got Sproles,
who is better than Bush, for about half the price, don’t we look stupid.
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by uncle finster on Aug 1, 2011 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions
eh i disagree
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by uncle finster on Aug 1, 2011 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions
true story lol
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yes you cant lol
Henne needs to step up
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I was wondering when old negative Nelly was going too chime in. (lol)
by D0lphins4Life on Aug 1, 2011 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Were you?
And before you ever even read it?
4.0 ypc, 7.3 ypr, 7.8 yp pr?
Those are negative stats, I didn’t create them, Bush did, so don’t blame me, thank you.
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by uncle finster on Aug 1, 2011 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions
How is it negative
To post what Bush’s career averages are? Just because uncle finster doesnt think Bush will be that productive means he’s not drinking the Kool Aid, but the facts back that up. I think he’s totally right.
But again I support the signing strictly from a risk/reward basis. We gave up practically nothing, and halved his salary. I’m hoping the extra motivation and change in scenery can actually turn Bush into something of a dangerous player – something he hasnt been since his rookie year.
Henne is the greatest and the Dolphins will go 14-2 this year and win the SB
Agreed,
I think he’s a nice complimentary player, people in here are talking as if he’s CJ and Hester combined, lol, I’m just trying to keep it real.
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by uncle finster on Aug 1, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m just trying to keep it real.
Yup, that’s hard to do around here sometimes. I’m much more excited about the Burnett signing and how having a playmaker in the middle can transform the defense which desperately needed a playmaker.
Keep it real finster

Henne is the greatest and the Dolphins will go 14-2 this year and win the SB
Holy Milli Vanilli
they DID NOT keep it real, lol
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by uncle finster on Aug 1, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
who?
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by Little Nicky 21 on Aug 1, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I was exaggerating.
Slightly.
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by uncle finster on Aug 1, 2011 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Always bitching about players if their are not his stud of the week.
Henne needs to step up
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Do I sense some hostility here? lol
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by uncle finster on Aug 1, 2011 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow, seems strange to see you chime in on such things.
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Show me by the stats… I think bush is a better option… bush puts up more total yards. If you want to talk about the fact that his average is higher we can debate all day about how that means you will get more production out of a 28 year old back that really never got that many touches. I call shenanigans on you, sir….
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by Jason Scott_90 on Aug 1, 2011 9:07 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
What, ???
They are both scat backs, Bush has a 4.0 avg, Sproles has a 4.6 avg, receiving, Bush has a lowly 7.3 avg, Sproles? 9.6
As far as returner, there is no comparison Sproles is far superior, if only because he also returns kicks.
And of course he is about half the price.
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by uncle finster on Aug 1, 2011 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions
sproles is also smaller, & more apt to fumble
as much as i do like sproles, i think Bush is more dynamic and you can do more with him.
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Where are the stats to back up your argument?
Bottom line, Bush has not proved what you are saying about him.
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by uncle finster on Aug 1, 2011 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Read the article again
Apparently you clicked on the stat sheet and never made it any further..
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by Little Nicky 21 on Aug 1, 2011 10:33 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Your article proves that Bush can do more than Sproles and is more dynamic, lol
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by uncle finster on Aug 1, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
which is what BSerious said
and you asked him for stats to back it up..
Bush is more dynamic than Sproles
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by Little Nicky 21 on Aug 1, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Only there are no stats to back that up,
Sproles is the more dynamic and explosive player, and that is on the field and on paper.
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by uncle finster on Aug 1, 2011 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I disagree
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by Little Nicky 21 on Aug 1, 2011 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions
OK
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by uncle finster on Aug 1, 2011 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Why would I want to change my mind?
Then I’d be wrong.
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by uncle finster on Aug 1, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Bush hasn’t hit his full potential, I can agree on that. However for the contract we gave him it was a good move.
I wanted Bradshaw, badly, but I did guarentee that Miami would absolutely end up with DWil, Bradshaw or Reggie just for their name/performance alone. Although Reggie is the only one I am not confident being a full-time marquee back, we saved money over the other 2 and are able to use that extra cash elsewhere in FA, including at the RB position (AKA would you rather have Ronnie and Reggie, than Ahmad?)
Bush came at a fair price and he can instantly change the game in a handful of ways, peep Nicky’s FP post for better explanation, he breaks it down instantly.
I’ll say this, IF Reggie stays healthy, i’m sure we can all agree that he was a good pickup after two years in Miami
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by uncle finster on Aug 1, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
i bet
teams fear bush’s skills more so than Sproles, sorry brotha ya cant change my mind on this one
im not as think as you drunk i am occifer.....
by frostyphinfan on Aug 1, 2011 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm not trying to, just speaking mine.
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by uncle finster on Aug 1, 2011 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions
you are right!
http://sports.espn.go.com/fantasy/football/ffl/story?id=6812037
2010 is cuzzin's breakout year...run with that chip bruh!
ok... here we go arguing averages....
Kory sheets had a 5.0 average yards per carry and he is a scat back too… who cares what his average is…. for the past 4 years bush’s rushing yards= 1525 receiving yards= 1400. Sproles’ rushing yards= 1104 receiving yards= 1390
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by Jason Scott_90 on Aug 1, 2011 9:35 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You completely lost me at
Kory sheets had a 5.0 average yards per carry
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by uncle finster on Aug 1, 2011 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions
kory sheets had 1 rush for 5 yards....
That is a 5.0 ypc average… but averages don’t equal to actual prooduction… just average production… saying Sproles will give us more production doesn’t speak to what the numbers are telling us… bush is a younger back and has been more of a workhorse than sproles… and the fact that I am calling Bush a “workhorse” should give you some sort of indication as to how little Sproles was actually relied on….
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by Jason Scott_90 on Aug 1, 2011 10:01 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Imo,
you would be making the same case for Sproles if he was a Fin.
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by uncle finster on Aug 1, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions
of course i would....
But he isn’t …. gotta back my team… go Dolphins!!!
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by Jason Scott_90 on Aug 1, 2011 10:16 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
So you admit that ability isn't what your arguing,
it’s just team loyalty.
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by uncle finster on Aug 1, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
no... i am simply saying i would back my team either way....
I would try to find some way to make it make sense…. but you can’t make the case to me or anyone else on this site that Sproles is head and shoulders above Bush… the numbers show that while Bush may not have performed like a #1 pick, he was more productive than sproles. I am not always on board with everything the team does. I didn’t like Ginn and was hoping we got rid of him much sooner than we did, and I also thought we should have moved on from Henne last year mid-season. Now I don’t know if he may one day develop into the guy and the fact that we don’t have anyone but him and Matt Moore has me hoping that one of those guys could develop into a solid starter at least. I would have felt much better about that if we had brought in a vet like Orton or drafted someone early to compete.
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by Jason Scott_90 on Aug 1, 2011 11:50 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Sproles does more per touch,
that can’t be argued, and he is a very good KR, he’s a decent PR but he does both, Bush doesn’t.
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by uncle finster on Aug 1, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
To be fair, Sproles didn't look nearly as fast last season
Not sure if that was just a hiccup or a sign of him slowing down, but I certainly didn’t think he had the breathtaking speed that he put on display in 2008 and 2009.
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Tony Romo has more ypc than Sproles
That doesn’t mean he is a better RB… for the record so does Ted Ginn Jr, Tyler Thigpen and john Connor… and a bunch of other people… ypc doesn’t matter if you are not putting up more than 300 yards in a season.
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"But I could show my prowess, be a lion not a mou-ess
If I only had the nerve."--Sparano
by Jason Scott_90 on Aug 1, 2011 1:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
no... i am simply saying i would back my team either way....
I would try to find some way to make it make sense…. but you can’t make the case to me or anyone else on this site that Sproles is head and shoulders above Bush… the numbers show that while Bush may not have performed like a #1 pick, he was more productive than sproles. I am not always on board with everything the team does. I didn’t like Ginn and was hoping we got rid of him much sooner than we did, and I also thought we should have moved on from Henne last year mid-season. Now I don’t know if he may one day develop into the guy and the fact that we don’t have anyone but him and Matt Moore has me hoping that one of those guys could develop into a solid starter at least. I would have felt much better about that if we had brought in a vet like Orton or drafted someone early to compete.
"And my head I'd be scratchin' While my thoughts were busy hatchin'
If I only had a brain" --Henning
"Just because I'm presumin' That I could be a human, If I only had a heart" --Henne
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If I only had the nerve."--Sparano
by Jason Scott_90 on Aug 1, 2011 1:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
double post... stupid phone
"And my head I'd be scratchin' While my thoughts were busy hatchin'
If I only had a brain" --Henning
"Just because I'm presumin' That I could be a human, If I only had a heart" --Henne
"But I could show my prowess, be a lion not a mou-ess
If I only had the nerve."--Sparano
by Jason Scott_90 on Aug 1, 2011 1:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
but you still can't deny the truth of the argument i am making
"And my head I'd be scratchin' While my thoughts were busy hatchin'
If I only had a brain" --Henning
"Just because I'm presumin' That I could be a human, If I only had a heart" --Henne
"But I could show my prowess, be a lion not a mou-ess
If I only had the nerve."--Sparano
by Jason Scott_90 on Aug 1, 2011 10:20 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Oh yes I can.
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by uncle finster on Aug 1, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Jason...Unc Fin will swear Dolly Parton is "fat"
because of the ‘stats’ of her shirt size.
My suggestion…get stats…juggle them around…[easy enough, everyone does] and present it, because the rule with the unc is…“No Stat…Non-sequator”
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As long as our blockers actually block on returns
he’ll do great.
As well his “lack of stats” can partially be attributed to the offense he played on, If the Saints did just one thing well, it’s mixing it up offensively.
I will agree to disagree with you - as long as you understand that I'm right.
I think he'll have a huge impact, he's still a matchup nightmare
I remember a saints vs 49ers game where Patrick Willis was having a really hard time staying with him in coverage and was exhausted. He will make everyone better, especially the offense on 3rd downs.
aka: SEX PANTHER
LOL
The correct term is autobot I think.
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by uncle finster on Aug 1, 2011 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions
is he good or bad?
cause he could be a decepticon
LOL, right, I forgot.
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by uncle finster on Aug 1, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
No hail the Deceptcons!
wopper "the king" computer
We often look rite past the positive's cuz the negative's-r-so hard they dominate!
by wild zion beaver on Aug 1, 2011 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm probably in the minority
but I hope Ricky comes back, would be nice to have that kind of depth.
by Blue or CONKZILLA on Aug 1, 2011 9:18 AM EDT reply actions
i liken it to.....
Marshall Faulk going to the St. Louis Rams.
At that point in his career faulk was an over hyped “play maker” and never reached his full potential. he was more bark than bite in Indy. but when he went to the rams 4 years later he became more of every down back, running between the tackles and picking up blitzes. i believe reggie bush has every bit of talent that faulk had. and i cant wait to see B. Marshall-D. Bess-R. Bush-E. Gates-B. Hartline in a 5 reciever set. Faulk’s addition to STL was a key part of the “greatest show on turf”. woulndt it be nice if Bush’s arrival in Miami led to the birth of the “greatest show on surf”.
cheers
im not as think as you drunk i am occifer.....
Lol,I like that
The greatest show on surf. Great play on words
by dolphinfan4lyfe on Aug 1, 2011 9:40 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
WOW you can't be serious?!?!?!?
Faulk in Indy in 5 years;
5300 yards rushing, 42 TDs
2800 yards receiving, 9 TDs
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by uncle finster on Aug 1, 2011 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions
he was also the main back...
Bush has a career average of less than 10 carries a game. Injuries are my only concern with Bush. He’s improved drastically since he came in. Trust me, I’ve been watching mad film. The thing that I noticed with Bush is he’s so feared that he’d get spied all game, then get the ball from a singleback formation and was met in the backfield by two or three defenders. His stats won’t say much because he was used more as a decoy than an RB.
Go back to 2008 Bush started the season off hot! He led the league in scoring and was balling! Then he got hurt. In my opinion, he should’ve sat the first month back or at least been used sparingly but Payton was working him hard even though he had a knee problem the previous season and I felt like he wasn’t ready. Constantly, before the season you were hearing about him having swelling in his knee and etc., so I wasn’t surprised that he had a couple more injuries after that. The broken leg was a fluke though, that could’ve happened to anybody.
You guys got a great guy. He’s humble and hardworking. Don’t believe the negative perception that people like to project on him. They make him seem all Hollywood as if he wants that. Nah, he’s nothing like that. Dating KK, being from USC and being a star back brought that but if you really pay attention to the dude. He’s shy, quiet and relaxed.
It’s gonna be fun to watch him play for yall.
2010 is cuzzin's breakout year...run with that chip bruh!
thx for the write up man!
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This was probably one of the best posts I’ve read on Bush! Nice job guys.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Aug 1, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice Post. Just MO, but... I believe you can file this Post
and run it again at the end of the season…and just exchange Bush’s name with Clay! Seriously…
Punt returns, inside runs, outside runs, pitches, reverses, downfield passes, screen passes, checkdowns, draw plays.
…forces a defense to change what they like to do.
forces a defense to account for his speed and cover the entire field.
He gives a legitimate threat on safe plays.
… formation flexibility. This is something that offensive coordinators love, because it allows them to disguise what they are doing by lining up in multiple sets with the same personnel.
I’d Keep my ear to the wind with this guy.
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Thats all well and good but what does this have to do with Marshall Faulk?
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by uncle finster on Aug 1, 2011 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions
he is scary fast and quick
surprised me that he is not afraid to lower his shoulder into DBs, i thought he shyed away. He will be a nightmare for defenses
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by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Aug 1, 2011 9:47 AM EDT reply actions
With the Miami Dolphins trading for Reggie Bush last week, it dawned on me that we may never have had a more explosive player in a Dolphins uniform. Reggie is a guy who can score from any spot on the field in a variety of ways, something we have sorely missed offensively here in Miami for what seems like forever.
Honestly, I’m not getting the excitment with this signing. Yes, we certainly need a guy like Bush who has the potential to break big runs and make big plays. But the fact is, he hasn’t been doing that since 2006 in the NFL. His running, receiving and Punt Return numbers are all very average – or below since 2006. I don;t know why many expect this to change.
Could it change. I REALLY hope so. But the evidence suggests Bush isn’t all that. Lets all remember he took a huge pay cut to come here, and was had for almost nothing. And the reason is he hasn’t been all that good or many enough big plays in a system he should have thrived.
Henne is the greatest and the Dolphins will go 14-2 this year and win the SB
You didn't read past the stats either
Open your eyes, theres a lot more to football than rushing averages and TD totals.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Aug 1, 2011 10:35 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
What I read is a lot of Hopium about what Reggie will bring to Miami
The stats are a 100% correlation to his performance on the field. And those stats aren’t that good. I do agree we need a player like Bush in our lineup who can make plays in space with screen and passes in the flat – we haven’t had that type of guy in awhile. The problem is, Reggie isnt very productive getting actual yardage in those situations.
I mean, let’s take punt returning. I think everyone can agree that every returner is on the same playing field here as production is mostly attributed to what YOU can do on the reutrn. Yet, Reggie is averaging a pathetic 7.6 Yards since he entered the NFL. Reggie just isnt that explosive hence I’m not expecting anything like you suggest.
Henne is the greatest and the Dolphins will go 14-2 this year and win the SB
This ^
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by uncle finster on Aug 1, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
dont look at HIS YPR average
but maybe at their starting field position before and after he was there returning punts?
looking at punt return stats is so hard to do because of all the moving parts…
punter, blocking, punt team, if it goes out of play or not, and so on….
Your grasping at straws my friend.
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by uncle finster on Aug 1, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Actually, if the reason he's been brought in is to make the punter hang the ball high, and thus shorter,
it is a very valid argument.
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That isn't the case.
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by uncle finster on Aug 1, 2011 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Kinda seems like a burner made of china.
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Ok, so we can't look at YPR
And we can’t look at YPRush or YPReception because those aren’t good. Hey, why don’t we look at HOCD (Hotness of Chicks Dated). Yes, I agree Reggie was NFL All-Pro in that statistic. He should lead the team in attempts down there in South Beach.
Henne is the greatest and the Dolphins will go 14-2 this year and win the SB
no you can look at YPRA and YPC
but with the actual catches and rushes, you have to take account that he wasnt an every down back, and split touches with 7 other guys
bush had more catches than some of NOs recievers. only colston had more than he did
Neither is Sproles,
but he has good avgs, right where you want your scat back to be.
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by uncle finster on Aug 1, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Sheets any day!
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Zeus, ill ask you this (we tend to agree on alot of things)
Do you think Reggie Bush had ANYTHING to the fact that NO’s aerial attack was so effective, wide-open and vertical, EVEN when he wasn’t neccesarily part of the play?
I think the fact we went after Bush, further guarantees that we are going to be running an entirely new offense under Daboll, similar to a spread.
Bush is going to help develop our passing game in MIA even before he develops our rushing game IMO.
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Do you think Reggie Bush had ANYTHING to the fact that NO’s aerial attack was so effective, wide-open and vertical, EVEN when he wasn’t neccesarily part of the play?
The fact the NO’s pass attack was so effective and vertical leads me to believe that Bush should have had plenty of room to operate in the flat. I’m sure NO ran some deep posts with the WR/Slot receiver on the side that Reggie was going to get the ball on short passes, so the deep threat should have provided some space to him. Bottom line is I think Reggie should have thrived in NO with their league leading passing game. Yet he didnt.
I think the fact we went after Bush, further guarantees that we are going to be running an entirely new offense under Daboll, similar to a spread.
Yeah, maybe a new offense with be beneficial for Bush – I’m not sure. I tend to doubt it since we are not a deep passing team, so in theory the secondary will be more stacked at the line providing less room to operate. New Orleans did a good job getting the ball to Bush in every way they could, but veered away from him over time due to the injuries and his ineffectiveness.
Bush is going to help develop our passing game in MIA even before he develops our rushing game IMO.
Possibly, but not until he starts becoming a dangerous player in the flat will NFL secondaries start paying closer attention to him. If he starts breaking some big plays rather consistently, I believe this to be true. It wont just happen automatically.
Henne is the greatest and the Dolphins will go 14-2 this year and win the SB
This ^
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by uncle finster on Aug 1, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
reggie bush was very effective in NO
had about 50 catches 400yards(roughly) average
in 09, he had his best year rushing with almost 400 yards with 70 touches(5.6ypc)
hes going to help this team out a lot
He has a 7.3 ypr,
thats a fact, and it’s a low number, FBs have avgs like that.
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by uncle finster on Aug 1, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
still almost a first down per catch
either way finster, bush is going to do something… what is it? i dont know but i hope its better than what darren does
yeah but he catches way more balls than them
So the number is naturally lower but it means the impact yardage wise is greater
The only Chad Henne supporter left.
If it was a small sample yes.
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by uncle finster on Aug 1, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
50 is a small sample size.
Although that is the nature of football.
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Define "that"?
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Truth be told none of us are NO fans so unless any of you watched every game or every snap.
All of this means nothing. It’s like Henne and his INT, was he the reason for all of them. No, but on paper he gets them. Look at Sanchez how many int did he have a lot less but, we all know that he should’ve had a hell of lot more, but on paper he looks ok. I don’t really know where I’m going with this (lol) but, unless you watched every game of Bush, you can’t make a fair arguements on stat alone. Theirs to many variable in place. Field position, hang time on punts, players hurt ont ST we just don’t know. Just saying. Gotta go catch up in a few. BTW! I like the Bush signing and would’ve liked sproles equally as well.
by D0lphins4Life on Aug 2, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I started following them when Reggie went there in 06
Watch 90% of the games.
2010 is cuzzin's breakout year...run with that chip bruh!
So what is your opinion was he under utilized and do you think he we will work out for us.
Was his underacheiving self inflicted or just on a team with so much talent and able to spread the ball around to everybody. Did opposing teams kicik to him and get a chance or did they kick away from him or booming high kick to keep from having him take it to the house. Lastly do you think he is better than sproles?
by D0lphins4Life on Aug 2, 2011 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
My only contention with Bush was injuries but he was merely UTILIZED...
But no MAXIMIZED as far as his talents. I DVR’d games and would watch them over to see if it was him or what and lot of times, literally, as soon as he’d get the ball he’d be met by two or three guys and so he’d dance and etc., but then I saw him improving and in a lot of games he’d be doing something like 5 carries for 30 or 40 yards then not see the ball again. That was frustrating to watch.
I think he’d be great here if he gets 12-18 carries a game with a few passes. It doesn’t show up on the stat sheet but he would turn little dump offs into 1st downs easy. But I’d only use him on punt returns for special situations. Opposing teams were always booming high and he’d get impatient and take some of them that he shouldn’t and thus he’d either get tackled quick or sometimes even muff.
But I think he’s definitely matured and he’s always been a humble guy. What he was doing in the early part of 2008 (leading league in scoring) before he got hurt is what you’ll see from him but with even better North/South running. Here’s what you’ll get if you give him touches.
Granted he fumbled which can be another issue hopefully he’s grown from that, I don’t know since he didn’t really get the ball last couple years. Notice the coverage on Bush especially when Brees throws elsewhere, it’s usually two defenders biting!
I think he’s better than Sproles, if he stays healthy because Sproles barely has better stats than Bush and he’s been healthy more than Bush. If Bush played more games whose to day his stats wouldn’t be different? A 3.7 ypc season could’ve been 4.2 with just one of the games he missed being played—who knows. Not to mention defenses don’t spy on Sproles like they do Reggie. Reggie will be fine in Miami so long as they give him touches. I think the grass will be better for him too. Just my opinion though.
On to da next one!
just watch the highlights
watching that doesn’t make you excited? He is electrifying every time he touches the ball. and he gives D-Coordinators fits game planning against him, we r gonna see so many coverage mismatches, and defenses caught off guard, something we have been lacking for years. Sure his numbers aren’t overwhelming, but they aren’t shit either. He was lightly used in NO, where they had like 10 legit weapons . numbers aint everything
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by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Aug 1, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Getting excited about what a play CAN do
And actually DOING this on any sort of regular basis are 2 entirely different things. Bush can be exciting, but I’m more excited about a player who ACTUALLY provides results.
Henne is the greatest and the Dolphins will go 14-2 this year and win the SB
You know what gets me,
I actually thought he was a good PR when we got him, I don’t watch NO that much so I never paid attention, then I look at his numbers, cripes, he has a pathetic 7.8 avg for his career, but whats worse is that he has only 1 stinkin season with over 7.8 avg, ? with 4 TDs he only has a 7.8? that is truly pathetic.
! dynamic season, 4 poor to pathetic seasons ??? how did he keep his job?
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by uncle finster on Aug 1, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
I donno if I would say Bush was pathetic
I mean Sproles career PR average is 8.2 with only 2 TD’s. It was ok. Everything about Bush screams OK – he hasnt been terrible. But he’s not in the same category as a Brian Westbrook or Warrick Dunn.
Again I must say the risk/reward profile is to my liking though. A low risk signing that has the potential to be very beneficial is Bush can increase his production even modestly. Not counting on it though.
Henne is the greatest and the Dolphins will go 14-2 this year and win the SB
7.8 is really bad
Davone Bess was 18th in the league with an 11.4 avg.
Bush was tied for 51st with a 6.6 avg
In 09 his 4.8 ypr was good enough to get him the 62 spot all to himself, lol, Bess was 7.5 which was 44th
08, the year sun shone on a … well you know how that goes, 13.5 avg was good enough for 9th and 3 TDs, Bess was 23rd with 11.0 ypr.
07, 4.0 ypr gets another 62nd
06, 7.7 ypr is good for 44th, even with 1 TD
Bess has 74 PRs for 724 yds in 3 years,
Bush has 92 PRs for 720 yds in 5 years.
Bad is bad, and thats really bad.
All PR rankings are from the entire NFL, not just leaders, iow, no minimum for returns.
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by uncle finster on Aug 1, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I didnt realize his PR average was that bad
Thanks for posting facts
Henne is the greatest and the Dolphins will go 14-2 this year and win the SB
I didn't realize it either,
funny how hype follows some players and not others.
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by uncle finster on Aug 1, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Sproles is also a better KR than a PR,
and RB doesn’t return kicks
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by uncle finster on Aug 1, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Sproles isn't a RB.
He has no true position, except for returner.
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Sproles is the proto-type scat back.
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by uncle finster on Aug 1, 2011 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions
And it is true
We havent had a guy with Bush’s skill set here in a long time. He has the potential to be the type of complimentary back we could have used for like forever.
Henne is the greatest and the Dolphins will go 14-2 this year and win the SB
100%
As long as we use him correctly.
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by uncle finster on Aug 1, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed. And I am actually surprised that you're not more on board with this, Finster
The Dolphins, thus far this offseason, have done a great job of adding a center who can help control the interior, and a power back (DT Bulldozer) who can thrash between the tackles. And now we have a back who can get around the edge in a blink and make things happen in the open field, which will likely make it exponentially tougher for defenses to lean on our inside running game. I like the fact that Bush can, at times, run it between the tackles, but I am not really interested in consistently running him inside so he can prove he’s an every-down back while also getting his brains beaten in. No, thanks.
Bush doesn’t have eye-popping numbers or anything, but imo, he and Gates have the killer speed that will complement Marshall and Thomas’ bruising physicality.
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All good points. It would be a shame if we as fans actually were to focus
on what he brings to the table as opposed to what he does not bring. It’s easy to bitch about every move I guess but since none of us know if they made a move for Sproles and it did not work out (maybe he did not want to play here for whatever reason) or any other idea what happens behind closed doors why not give this move the benefit of the doubt instead of just being the usual negative around here? This place is starting to beat me down as a fan. Time to leave? Maybe!
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poor blocking...
I know, I’ve been watching this guy since he came into the league.
2010 is cuzzin's breakout year...run with that chip bruh!
Like 2009 when they were 6th in the league in rushing, even with the design of their offense?
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by otisnixon'sparty on Aug 1, 2011 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Fool look where I replied!
I’m talking about punt returning! 2009 is his highest ypc. I’m saying the Saints had poor punt return blocking.
2010 is cuzzin's breakout year...run with that chip bruh!
Ok how about the three years out of the five that someone other than Reggie had a decent number of returns, two of them Reggie’s numbers were worse. Both years it was Lance Moore, and his ypr was almost double. Only his Rookie year did he split returns and have the best ypr. He was 0.8 ypr better that year. That better? Guess Lance Moore is a Jedi.
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by otisnixon'sparty on Aug 2, 2011 3:11 AM EDT up reply actions
How many TDs does Moore have since he’s been in the league—in the punt return department?
Don’t deflect this time, address this!
2010 is cuzzin's breakout year...run with that chip bruh!
You are deflecting. We are talking Reggie Bush, and I am using another player on the same teams to point out you assertion the Saints are at fault and not your boy for his poor punt return average, not that Lance Moore is a great punt returner. But since you asked the question, wouldn’t Reggie having more TD returns and a much lower ypr average even further back up my point that he is a poor punt returner?
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by otisnixon'sparty on Aug 2, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL!
Nope! But it might suggest that the punt blocking sucks and with Reggie being the more dynamic of the two, he’s not going to get the same looks Moore does—after all he is the one that’s more feared.
But let’s agree to disagree and let’s see what happens when the season starts.
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Good enough, surely I can find a few more arguments around to kill the time until there is football to watch.
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by otisnixon'sparty on Aug 3, 2011 4:27 AM EDT up reply actions
People don't seem to want to understand this...
If they don’t like or are skeptic then they are gonna remain that way until he drastically proves otherwise. He couldn’t do that in NO because it’s about spreading the ball. Other than Drew Brees, who on the offense was a Pro Bowler? You know why? Because they spread the ball around. Bush, isn’t a 20-25 carries guy but he is a 20-25 touches guy. If used right and with good blocking, I think you guys will come around.
2010 is cuzzin's breakout year...run with that chip bruh!
Without getting into the whole Reggie Bush debate, I totally agree with this:
Bush, isn’t a 20-25 carries guy but he is a 20-25 touches guy.
I think his greatest value will be in screens and checkdowns.
Puzzled.
I think he's more hyper when he "touches".
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Jahri Evans, Jamaal Brown, Johnathan Goodwin, Jon Stinchcomb, Carl Nix. Yeah I can see where that horrible blocking you were talking about hurt Reggie so much.
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by otisnixon'sparty on Aug 1, 2011 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Go look at some of Reggie's tape...
until the last couple years, blocking wasn’t the greatest and I’m talking about isolated runs in which Reggie was in singleback formation and was immediately met in the backfield by defenders. Do you have any other explanation for this? I’d like to hear it.
2010 is cuzzin's breakout year...run with that chip bruh!
Up until the last couple of years, like the time frame where he proved he can’t be the man, and was beaten out for the number one job by Pierre Thomas? I like Reggie and wish something could have been worked out to keep him, but most of what you are saying is just plain bs.
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by otisnixon'sparty on Aug 2, 2011 3:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Funny because the last couple years are where he's improved his running ypc.
Or let me state it like you would, “You mean the last couple years in which his ypc have been the best in his career?”
If you’re gonna disagree, disagree but don’t be a jerk about it son. Keep it real without keeping it real rude.
2010 is cuzzin's breakout year...run with that chip bruh!
And he also was given the chance to be a number one and couldnt do it?
If you’re gonna disagree, disagree but don’t be a jerk about it son. Keep it real without keeping it real rude.
What are you some 14 year old Jersey Shore wannabe?
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by otisnixon'sparty on Aug 2, 2011 4:06 AM EDT up reply actions
And he also was given the chance to be a number one and couldnt do it?
How can someone who averages less than 10 carries a game be given a chance? Are saying a couple games in which he’s gotten 15 or more carries is a chance? Because he’s done well in some of those games (20 carries 126 yards vs. Giants 2006) as well as bad (21 carries 67 yards vs. Carolina 2007). But all backs have some games where they don’t average at least 4ypc. But teams stick with that back. Bush was never given the opportunity to consistently be that guy! Part of that is due to injuries and part of that is due to the way that Payton wanted to use him.
What are you some 14 year old Jersey Shore wannabe?
hahaha, I guess you don’t get out much since that’s the only reference you can make. Notice I’ve directly answered your erroneous assertions. Why can’t you do the same? ADHD or are you just one of those people who when wrong instead of addressing it just go on to the next point or insult?
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Great play at :38 of the video though
Man, Bush leaped from 5 yard line and made it too da house.
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I am way excited about Reggie Bush
Why? Because he’s ugly fast, and our skill players have been stone-ass slow over the last four years (with the exception of “receiver who shall not be named”). And while Bush’s injury history worries me just a tad, his numbers in New Orleans do not. Bush was just one of the Saints’ five or six lethal scorers (and they were usually all on the field at the same time), so I certainly won’t sweat Reggie’s production thus far. Also, I’d like to point out that Bush isn’t the only running back we have, and I expect his style to really complement Daniel Thomas’ “maul now, ask questions later” approach to the ground game. A great pairing, IMO.
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It depends on how we use them, but I could easily see Thomas having more injury problems than Bush.
Puzzled.
That's sometimes the case with high-contact bulldozers
But it sounds like he’s going to be the horse, which I am totally fine with.
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Great read Nicky
I too am excited to see how Reggie will impact our offense. If Clay develops enough to be added to the active roster he and Bush will create nightmares for opposing DC. Throw in Gates with his speed and there are a ton of things Daboll can do with this offense. If our OL can gel I am excited to see what this offense can do. I can see us making a large jump in total offense like our D did last year.
How many championships has Miami won in the past 30 years?
How many playoff games? How many winning records? How many division championships?
Sean Payton came into New Orleans and drafted Reggie Bush second overall. He designed an offense around him. And then he went out and won a Superbowl. With an offense designed for him.
All of the things that Nicky outlined were present in New Orleans. Defenses had to gameplan for him. Defenders had to respect him. This opened up other parts of the offense.
Reggie Bush’s mere presence changes the game. To quote Nicky:
Open your eyes, theres a lot more to football than rushing averages and TD totals
Everyone here at ThePhinsider can agree that our front office has been laughably inept for quite some time. Can we say the same thing about the front office in New Orleans? I’d be happy if Sean Payton decided to make the jump to Miami. Why can’t we be happy that a guy like Bush, who did so much for New Orleans, is now in Miami?
ok, Payton was smart enough to play Bush to his strengths...is Daboll capable of doing the same?
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by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Aug 1, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
He took Hillis from a throwaway and played him to his strengths
Mind you Hillis wasn’t a starter until injuries hit.
That offense was not designed for Bush,
and they have given up on him and brought in Darren Sproles, what does that tell you.
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by uncle finster on Aug 1, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
The offense was designed for Bush.
I have read it in multiple sources and I believe that it was generally understood that the Saints had built their gameplan around the mismatch capabilities of Reggie Bush. I looked for sources and could not find them. Admittedly, I didn’t look very hard.
If someone has a link to support this statement, i’d appreciate it!
by DolfanVince86 on Aug 1, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
NFL offenses are way to complex to be centered around one man,
what you probably heard was that they run an offense that will try to take advantage of his match up abilities.
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by uncle finster on Aug 1, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn't say centered around him in totality...
It was centered around the deception that Bush provided being so “overrated” (respected). So technically, you could say it was centered around him but he definitely didn’t benefit from it on the stat sheet. When Reggie was away, the team won more games but against teams with weaker records from when he was in. Reggie’s hype and abilities helped allow for the receivers to get open. If you don’t believe it, go watch some of there games, I’ve seen countless times a LB or DB got caught spying and Drew would just look in Reggie’s direction for a check-down but then throw a 1st down or TD pass to a WR.
2010 is cuzzin's breakout year...run with that chip bruh!
I heard this several times last year, too.
It usually came up in the context of why the Saints had fallen off from 2009. They had built a system around Bush, and now he wasn’t available.
Now, I have no idea how accurate that was, but a lot of analysts did say it.
Puzzled.
You lump "This" FO that has existed a whole 3 years, with the past 30 years?
First…thats stupid!
Second ….
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no. speed at WR is the main reason. I rather not have him return and find someone else. His speed alone will be valuable to the offense.
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by 54 on Aug 1, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
He's a 4th round pick, lol
not a high 1st, no need to try to protect him.
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by uncle finster on Aug 1, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
This^ we need him to become the best WR he can in the short time we have.
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I would guess that as well.
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by uncle finster on Aug 1, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Moss is an attention hound, sure if he "retires befor the season" starts it's no big thing.Back burner is not him, cuz the lock-out was so huge!
He gets no attention he’s not bigger then the game it-self
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by wild zion beaver on Aug 1, 2011 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions
?????
I gently explained…stay away from the Hickory. Makes you dream.
See..you woke up hungry again…thinking of Moss on a back burner.
Curl back up with that GD goddess….focus, and drift off on what ‘needs’ to be eaten!
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This was long as hell lol
But this pretty much sums it up
The first thing I noticed in that video was the many different ways he scores touchdowns. Punt returns, inside runs, outside runs, pitches, reverses, downfield passes, screen passes, checkdowns, draw plays, it’s essentially a list of all the possible ways points can be put on the scoreboard.
Translation: Get the ball to Reggie Bush!
good post tho…
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Wow, a Fanpost by Nicky
we havent seen that in a while
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