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'11 Miami Dolphin Off-season Moves: Defense

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So here is 2nd part of my wildly popular post of my Miami Dolphins off-season moves. I know, I know you just couldn't wait anymore. I know you all wanted this more than you wanted the Dark Knight to come out. Alas my adoring public I have finished and am inclined to bestow my vast knowledge with the masses. Thus I shall begin

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POSITION: DE


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DEPTH CHART: Kendall Langford, Randy Starks, Jared Odrick, Phillip Merling

Roster Moves: N/A

ANALYSIS: This is easily the strongest area of our team considering total depth and talent even after losing DE Tony McDaniel to FA. I was very impressed at how well Tony played last year in our D-line rotation unfortunately other teams scouts saw this as well. He is young enough to warrant a pretty hefty contract as a starting 3-4 DE and we have too much talent at the position to be affected by his departure. That said the pressure on Jared Odrick and Phillip Merling to STAY HEALTHY and perform is very real and we will need at least one of them to step up and play well in our rotation.

POSITION: NT
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DEPTH CHART: Paul Soliai, Jamal Williams

Roster Moves: Sign Jamal Williams to a 1 year incentive laden contract, Sign Frank Kearse to the practice squad

ANALYSIS: So as I predicted the Randy Starks experiment at NT didn't last. Mike Nolan's defense would have been in serious trouble in Paul Soliai hadn't stepped up his game so dramatically in one year. The poison pill of this however is that Paul was in a contract year before he decided to put it all together. Motivation has always been the main factor when it comes to just how good Paul Soliai wants to be. Lets hope that his recent windfall won't affect his play. If it does we need some semblance of insurance and that is where the "Big Man" Jamal Williams comes into play. To me this is a no brainer FA signee. Nolan has worked with him before in Denver. He is a leader with a solid work ethic that is still productive on the field. Williams will be an ideal role model for both Soliai and Frank Kearse.

POSITION OLB:

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DEPTH CHART: Cameron Wake, Mathias Kiwanuka, Koa Misi, Ugo Chiansa

ROSTER MOVES: Sign Kiwanuka to a 3 year deal, Sign UDFA Ugo Chiansa, Cut Ikaika Alama-Francis, Cut Quentin Moses, Sign UDFA Pierre Allen to the PS

ANALYSIS: Ladies and gentlemen we know have a LB corps rivaling the Pittsburgh Steelers. Mathias Kiwanuka "Kiwi" needs and should be our #1 priority free agent. As solid as Misi was as a rookie he left much to be desired in the pass rush department. Kiwi excels in both areas. In fact, he was poised for a beastly year posting 4 sacks in 3 games before being lost for the season to a neck injury last year. This in a way helps the Dolphins. No way the New  York Giants would have even considered losing him to free agency if this injury hadn't occurred. Now, it not only makes him available but he may come at an even more affordable rate as teams attempt to low ball him. I am also quite sure than Kiwi will be able to transition to a 3-4 since he played some OLB in NY's 4-3 as a rookie.     A sleeper prospect that I think the Phins need to jump on is UDFA DE/OLB Ugo Chiansa. He is a 6-5 255 player out of Oklahoma State that had 6 and a half sacks as a senior. In the link here gives a short bio on him. If he doesn't make the team then he needs to be assigned to the PS at least

POSITION: ILB

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DEPTH CHART: Karlos Dansby, Kirk Morrison, A.J. Edds, Alex Wucjciak

ROSTER MOVES: Sign FA Kirk Morrison, Trade/Cut Channing Crowder, Cut Tim Dobbins, Cut Austin Spitler

ANALYSIS: Wait what? Something’s different…Did it just get much quieter in the locker room? Yes my dream scenario involves the forced departure of one loudmouth Channing Crowder. If you ask me its been a long time a comin. Despite his obvious distractive nature Channing Crowder’s contributions to this team are consistently overstated. The one thing that Crowder can do is clog a run lane. That’s it! That is the only thing he brings to the table. The minimum requirement for a Jack LB is to hit any lineman or rb’s in the hole as to keep the Will (Dansby) free of  defenders. Just because Dobbins was SO BAD last year in this role is no outlier for how good Crowder is.  He isn’t a playmaker by any means and tackle number are down right pathetic the past 2 years.  In comparison, Kirk Morrison is just as stout against the run AND has the tackling and playmaking numbers to boot. Seriously people compare the numbers and the games played. [Crowder stats Morrison stats] Whatever Crowder is getting paid needs to go to a starting LB that can actually help this team in more than 1 area.

If you like Jack LB’s like Crowder then I give you a LB that fits that mold but is actually productive as well, Alex Wucjiak!

 

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He is a big, high motor tackling machine out of Maryland. STATS He is definitely not the most athletic guy available but has made up for that with effort and film study. If you want to get a little more familiar with him yahoo sports did a nice article on him

POSITION: CB

DEPTH CHART: Vontae Davis, Sean Smith, Will Allen, Al Harris, Nolan Carroll

ROSTER MOVES: Cut Benny Sapp, Re-sign Al Harris, Sign Jimmy Wilson to the PS

ANALYSIS: Not much change. We get Will Allen back and he slides over to nickel which s a role that he is well suited for. I don’t know why there hassn’t much talk about bringing CB Al Harris back to the Phins. From the small amount of playing time he received it looked like he played very well in that time. I personally don’t get the undue optimism when it comes to CB Nolan Carroll. The guy has done nothing as of yet except allow inferior corners to pass him up on the depth chart. He will have a hard time fending off Jimmy Wilson for that last CB spot.

POSITION SAFETY

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DEPTH CHART: FS- Chris Clemons, Tyrone Culver, SS- Yeremiah Bell, Reshad Jones, Jonathan Amaya

ROSTER MOVES: Sign UDFA DeAndre McDaniel to the PS

ANALYSIS: Little change to this group as well. There is already a good mix of reliable veterans and young players with potential. I would like to see a lot more of Reshad Jones at SS during the regular season . It is well known that Yeremiah Bell struggles against the pass  while Reshad Jones has shown an ability to play the pass quite well in college and in the pro’s.

Reshad Jones First Career Interception vs Titans HD (via NightmareTeeVee)

Quick note on DeAndre McDaniel (Clemson) is that he has pretty major character concerns. Get this, he beat up his girlfriend. He’ll fit right in! That combining with a so so year lead him to go undrafted. As a junior,  he grabbed 8 interceptions and he was thought to be a  top 2 draft choice at safety. Yeah he shoulda left early LOL


POSITION: ST’s

DEPTH CHART: Kicker- Dan Carpenter Punter Brandon Fields

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Overall good pick ups,but I just think we keep McDaniels,and trade Starks

We are offering the Bengals a second round pick in exchange for Palmer. Imo,this wont get a deal done. They will counteroffer for 2 second rounders like the Marshall trade,but we will counter with a move that I will hate,but im not running the team.

McDaniels will take less money if hes guaranteed a starting role,and Starks contract is coming up soon. DE will then be: McDaniels,Langford,Merling,Odrick. Still placing us with one of the better rotations in the league.

Again,i hate this move,but the front office will try anything to keep their jobs.

by dolphinfan4lyfe on Jul 8, 2011 11:24 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

i lol'd at the last one

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by AlejandroN on Jul 8, 2011 11:46 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I strongly disagree with you on Crowder. Nothing you say will change my mind. Atleast for this year he needs to be on our team. He grades out in the top 10 on PFF and another respectable site (I think footballoutsiders) in the running game. That goes with what see on the field. He’s a leader on our team. He obliviously sucks in the passing game and needs to be in a rotation getting him off the field in those situations.

It sucks we have to let McDaniel go. Good players don’t walk from good teams. They get resigned or traded, see the Pats.

OLB, I like your choice of Kiwanuka. But I like Misi….I think you’re reaching with Chiansa. Ike or Mosses would be better IMO.

I like your NT Idea.

CB, I believe Ireland said Wilson would be a safety.

Safety, This may be premature but I’m trying to trade Bell and move Jones to starting SS. It would be hard to trade Bell this year though. Wilson would be the final back up. I love big hitters. It means the get themselves in the right spot to deliver the blow (instinctive). Wilson could be a great project here.

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by 54 on Jul 9, 2011 12:19 AM EDT reply actions  

thanks for the input

Ideally I would like to trade Starks for a 2nd but not for Carson Palmer. McDaniel is an unrestricted free agent so I really dont think we have a chance in hell of re-signing him. Which sucks because he got his 2nd chance because of Bill Parcells and his ability to recognize stud 3-4 d-lineman

I havent seen anything out of Moses or Ike. I’m taking Chiansa as a project player and ensuring nobody snakes him off our PS. He’s got that Jason Taylor build and has experience as a stand up player at OSU

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Jul 9, 2011 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ike is our only depth at SOLB.

Kiwanuka projects to more of a WOLB or situational pass rusher.

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by PotM on Jul 9, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

What do you call Misi?

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

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by Souwantmyname on Jul 9, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

A SOLB, the only one we would have if souwantmyname had his way, IMO.

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by PotM on Jul 9, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

At 6'5 265 your kidding yourself if you dont think he can line up at SOLB

which is besides the point since Wake plays alot of SOLB for us.

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Jul 9, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Misi dropped back a lot for us, since we usually rushed Wake and rushed four guys.

Due to our corners, we run a lot of zone. Misi is great in this situation. Misi didn’t get beat in coverage (dropped probably 70-80% in the base D) and is a beast against the run. I doubt Kiwi is a great cover Lber. Also, when yu rush the edge, you are leaving the off tackle hole vulnerable, aka not setting the edge. Also Kiwi is coming off a neck injury.

"Too many of us look at Americans as dollar chasers. This is a cruel libel, even if it is reiterated thoughtlessly by the Americans themselves.""Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of truth and knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the Gods.""Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe.""The most incomprehensible thing about the world is it is comprehensible.""Peace can not be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." - Albert Einstein - "pm striker king"- WZB. Mosul's Blog

by PotM on Jul 9, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

The dropped him into coverage so much because HE WASN'T GETTING TO THE QB!!!!

If you have a pass rusher like Kiwi you dont drop him into coverage. That is a waste of his abilities. Did you see Wake doing much dropping back last year? No, because he was consistently getting pressure.

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Jul 9, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly, if we have two guys rushing the edge on

normal plays, you will get killed in the running game. This will make us an only average D, because we still haven’t addressed the need in the secondary. (playmaker)

"Too many of us look at Americans as dollar chasers. This is a cruel libel, even if it is reiterated thoughtlessly by the Americans themselves.""Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of truth and knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the Gods.""Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe.""The most incomprehensible thing about the world is it is comprehensible.""Peace can not be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." - Albert Einstein - "pm striker king"- WZB. Mosul's Blog

by PotM on Jul 9, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also, Wake was one of the best, if not the best, pass rushers last year.

Misi has it all. Speed, Agility, Size, Strength, a good understanding of the game, a good ability to learn, ability to set the edge, and drop back in coverage. I think if we teach him, he could be a great pass rusher.

"Too many of us look at Americans as dollar chasers. This is a cruel libel, even if it is reiterated thoughtlessly by the Americans themselves.""Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of truth and knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the Gods.""Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe.""The most incomprehensible thing about the world is it is comprehensible.""Peace can not be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." - Albert Einstein - "pm striker king"- WZB. Mosul's Blog

by PotM on Jul 9, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I actually think

that the progression of Misi was one of the driving forces behind bringing Cox on board as pass rush coach or whatever his title was. Could have wonders for him, he has all the tools just needs someone to help him put together the puzzle.

by AcolyteofRa on Jul 9, 2011 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

If they want to make that more of a tradition (letting great players from

years past coach) bring in JT to be the asst. pass rush coach and ZT for the ILB / asst. LBer coach.

That would be awesome to see ZT and JT again on the Dolphins sideline.

"Too many of us look at Americans as dollar chasers. This is a cruel libel, even if it is reiterated thoughtlessly by the Americans themselves.""Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of truth and knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the Gods.""Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe.""The most incomprehensible thing about the world is it is comprehensible.""Peace can not be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." - Albert Einstein - "pm striker king"- WZB. Mosul's Blog

by PotM on Jul 9, 2011 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am completely down with that

Cox and Taylor teaching our new breed how to be terrors for opposing QBs and then with his work ethic and all the heart he has for the game I believe Thomas would be a great coach and bring some of these guys to their max potential.

by AcolyteofRa on Jul 9, 2011 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thomas's ability to break down film is what will make him a great coach, if he wants to.

"Too many of us look at Americans as dollar chasers. This is a cruel libel, even if it is reiterated thoughtlessly by the Americans themselves.""Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of truth and knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the Gods.""Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe.""The most incomprehensible thing about the world is it is comprehensible.""Peace can not be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." - Albert Einstein - "pm striker king"- WZB. Mosul's Blog

by PotM on Jul 9, 2011 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not saying I want to trade for Palmer

Im just saying,in all fairness,dl is our strongest in depth. If these guys want Palmer bad enough,this may be what they are looking to do.

If were talking dream wise,id say we’d trade CC to the Ravens,for Ed Reed,and Terell Suggs,move Misi inside.

But this is the real world,and the trading of Randy Starks seems the most likely to happen

by dolphinfan4lyfe on Jul 9, 2011 6:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

why move Misi? He's great where he is.

Before he hit his rookie wall, he had 3.5 sacks in 5 games. If he improves, he will consistently get 9-11 sacks a season.

He is great against the run and never gets picked on hen he drops back into coverage. He is young, and super athletic for such a big guy.

"Too many of us look at Americans as dollar chasers. This is a cruel libel, even if it is reiterated thoughtlessly by the Americans themselves.""Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of truth and knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the Gods.""Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe.""The most incomprehensible thing about the world is it is comprehensible.""Peace can not be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." - Albert Einstein - "pm striker king"- WZB. Mosul's Blog

by PotM on Jul 9, 2011 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

This^

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by The Earl on Jul 9, 2011 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lol again,it was my dream scenario

If we had Suggs on one side,Wake on the other side,where would Misi’s athleticism serve us best? In the middle where his coverage skills would help aid our TE covering problem.plus his speed would help get him from the inside out on runningback screens,and clog up lanes in the middle,either way it was a hypothetical dream situation,no real need to argue.

Truth is,only addition I really want to see us make to our D is Herzlich,letting him ease into the game on passing situations and giving us a three man rotation at middle linebacker that even the Steelers would have to admire

by dolphinfan4lyfe on Jul 10, 2011 12:11 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

If you cant get Suggs then why wont you endorse obtaining Kiwanuka?

Similar body type, sack history in college, play style. The only real difference is that Kiwi has had to play behind Osi and Tuck. 2 exceptional pass rushing DE’s in their own right.

I see Kiwi having a monster year no matter where he ends up

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Jul 10, 2011 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Honestly,im to a point now where im neither endorsing,or not endorsing any additions or subtractions

More like,“if they are in aqua and orange next season,and they make the team better,im all for them”

But then again,my thoughts have gone against the grain in most cases. Im probably the only dolphins fan with both a Henne and a Ted Ginn jersey,that might make me uncool,but I tend to like the underdogs that no one else will.

Now after I graduate,and perhaps get a coaching job somewhere,then ill worry about the level of skill. But until then,i just love me some dolphins,and will root for anyone wearing a Dolphins jersey come gameday

by dolphinfan4lyfe on Jul 10, 2011 2:50 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I got a Ginn Jersey

"Too many of us look at Americans as dollar chasers. This is a cruel libel, even if it is reiterated thoughtlessly by the Americans themselves.""Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of truth and knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the Gods.""Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe.""The most incomprehensible thing about the world is it is comprehensible.""Peace can not be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." - Albert Einstein - "pm striker king"- WZB. Mosul's Blog

by PotM on Jul 10, 2011 3:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah but I have both a Henne AND a Ginn jersey

Lol,just call me a glutton for punishment,lol

by dolphinfan4lyfe on Jul 10, 2011 5:40 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

lol so true

whats wrong with you, did u have a culpepper one too?

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by BSerious72 on Jul 10, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

We can still move Misi inside on passing downs in our nickel package...

We need to suck it up and bring back JT. He can rush as a OLB or a DE. In our nickel package, Wake rushes from the LE spot with Starks, Langford, or whoever as DTs. Misi was placed at the RE spot and didn’t play well in that regard. He may improve there, but an ideal situation in to get a veteran pass rusher who can come off the edge in a 3-point stance in our 4 man front. We could have Wake, Starks, Odrick, and say, JT as our 4 man front, then have Dansby and Misi in coverage as our LBs (we don’t know what Edds brings to the table yet).

That would be the ideal situation. Misi would play SOLB during rushing downs and take Crowder’s spot in the middle in the nickel package. Misi can still rush the passer from the OLB spot when we’re in the 3-4.

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by The Earl on Jul 10, 2011 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think Misi's coverage skills are getting a little overblown

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Jul 10, 2011 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

He's the best option we have...

It’s not that he’s a shutdown coverage guy, but he’s better in coverage than the rest of LBs not named Dansby.

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Driving the Roberto Wallace Bandwagon
Squadron Leader of the F-35 Luckfleet

by The Earl on Jul 10, 2011 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Earl hook me up with sum swivel & twist!

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by wild zion beaver on Jul 10, 2011 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

????? like this

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Jul 10, 2011 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

frosted Now I;m hungry!

wopper "the king" computer
We often look rite past the positive's cuz the negative's-r-so hard they dominate!

by wild zion beaver on Jul 10, 2011 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah my post backfired

I’m hungry now too

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Jul 10, 2011 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Um, what kind of cream is that..?

Monkey wants to know….

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by Alpha6 on Jul 10, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh that's nasty

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Jul 10, 2011 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Which is sad....

well or FO tried to replace Edds… Anyone remember Bobby Carpenter

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Jul 10, 2011 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

sounds familar!

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We often look rite past the positive's cuz the negative's-r-so hard they dominate!

by wild zion beaver on Jul 10, 2011 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

were you a fan beav

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Jul 10, 2011 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

don't realy no of him just sounds like i've herd the name!

wopper "the king" computer
We often look rite past the positive's cuz the negative's-r-so hard they dominate!

by wild zion beaver on Jul 10, 2011 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

all you need to know is that he was bad... Gigli bad

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Jul 10, 2011 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Trying not to... LOL

If Edds plays as advertized, then he’ll be our lockdown cover LB.

aka "The Duke"
Proponent of I-AA Football
Driving the Roberto Wallace Bandwagon
Squadron Leader of the F-35 Luckfleet

by The Earl on Jul 10, 2011 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

We may need to carry 5 ILB

With at least 3 that can cover.. Dansby, Edds and (?)

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Jul 10, 2011 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

We'll probably just have 4 ILBs...

Dansby, Crowder, Edds, Dobbins, and probably one on the PS. We’ll need 4 to 5 OLBs. We have Wake, Misi, IAF, UDFA, and FA. Dansby, Edds, and Misi can be the cover guys.

What we REALLY need is for Henne to become our franchise QB so we can draft Vontaze Burfict next year instead of a QB.

aka "The Duke"
Proponent of I-AA Football
Driving the Roberto Wallace Bandwagon
Squadron Leader of the F-35 Luckfleet

by The Earl on Jul 10, 2011 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

I've hurd talk that we may drop dobbins!

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We often look rite past the positive's cuz the negative's-r-so hard they dominate!

by wild zion beaver on Jul 10, 2011 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

that would mean he wouldnt since it would take us being in the 10-20 range draft wise

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Jul 10, 2011 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

He might drop due to attitude issues (or so I've read)

We need to somehow draft Luck AND Burfict. But that’s just a dream scenario.

aka "The Duke"
Proponent of I-AA Football
Driving the Roberto Wallace Bandwagon
Squadron Leader of the F-35 Luckfleet

by The Earl on Jul 10, 2011 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

He's got so much buzz around him I doubt that

He is being looked as the best LB to come out since Patrick Willis

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Jul 10, 2011 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'll settle for Barkley and Luke kuechly

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Jul 10, 2011 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

hahaha!

Nice for just settleing!

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We often look rite past the positive's cuz the negative's-r-so hard they dominate!

by wild zion beaver on Jul 10, 2011 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

I dont know who posted the PFF stats on Dobbins but the guy was horrendous in both run support and in coverage

That guy truly sucks

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Jul 10, 2011 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

He's like Crowder-lite

He’s a decent backup.

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by The Earl on Jul 10, 2011 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Crow -2!

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by wild zion beaver on Jul 10, 2011 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

He's not a good player

defintely can do better

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Jul 10, 2011 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Get a good LB in next years draft...

I was kinda hoping we would draft Kelvin Sheppard this year, but the freaking Bills took him.

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by The Earl on Jul 10, 2011 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Best case, Spitler becomes a good LBer.

He is althletic (not super like Dansby or Edds) and is very strong.

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by PotM on Jul 10, 2011 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

No problem. I love a good post like this. McDaniel said he would love to come back but I don’t think it will happen for the same reasons.

I remember Moses flash brightly during a game last year. So there might be something there. Chiansa looks like a good project. I’m not against bringing him in to see if he has anything worth while in camp. If he shows good promise then I would agree with you.

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by 54 on Jul 10, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with quite a bit

of what you said. I think Kiwi would be a steal of a grab and would give us a uncanny amount of versatility with our LB corps. I think Morrison would be a nice upgrade from Crowder even though I like Crowder. Also everyone forgets about the guy we signed from Canada Mark Restelli or something like that, the guy seems to have really good instincts and could find a way on the team via Special Teams/Back up Linebacker and could turn into gold like our last CFL pick up. Lastly I have a feeling they are going to be shifting Jones to FS to challenge or overtake Clemons while Wilson will probably be the backup to Bell making the team mostly because of his bruising special teams play.

by AcolyteofRa on Jul 9, 2011 5:43 AM EDT reply actions  

Nice write up sir.

I don’t know much about most of these UDFA’s but as I am too lazy to go do the research on them right now I will take your word on it.

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by texascowpunk on Jul 9, 2011 7:49 AM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, Idk how this wasn't front paged.....

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by Alpha6 on Jul 10, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

His name is not Nicky?

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by texascowpunk on Jul 10, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

this^

"Too many of us look at Americans as dollar chasers. This is a cruel libel, even if it is reiterated thoughtlessly by the Americans themselves.""Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of truth and knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the Gods.""Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe.""The most incomprehensible thing about the world is it is comprehensible.""Peace can not be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." - Albert Einstein - "pm striker king"- WZB. Mosul's Blog

by PotM on Jul 10, 2011 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah someone needs to frontpage this!!!!

Haha

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Jul 10, 2011 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

THE DL NEEDS TO STEP UP

the DL had 10.5 sacks total last season. i demand more from my DL. outside of wake, with 14, rest of the LB corp had 9.5. langford has 7.5 sacks in 3 seasons. thats not good enuff. maybe keep mcdaniels and trade merling. merling has 62 tckls. 3.5 sks in his 3 seasons. i like morrison and would be a great add with 89 tot. tckls. whats the chances of getting paul polunszy from buffalo 151 tot. tckls. 2 sks. morrison 6’2 240, polunszy 6’1 238. perfect size for a ILB. we need to start giving more playing time to jones at SS.

by warpigs on Jul 9, 2011 10:54 AM EDT reply actions  

Polunsay would be great.

Talk about the anti Welker situation. Or anti Larry Izzo.

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by PotM on Jul 9, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

He would probably cost alot more than Morrison for the same results basically

Also Puz is really more suited to a 4-3 where he doesnt have to engage defenders. I doubt he can effectively

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Jul 9, 2011 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Puz played in the 34 last season, or the past 2. Not sure.

Morrison is the one that never played a 34.

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by PotM on Jul 9, 2011 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think this is academic anyways

Puz is the identity of that Bills defense (maybe even the team) No way they dont throw the bank at him

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Jul 9, 2011 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Byrd

"Too many of us look at Americans as dollar chasers. This is a cruel libel, even if it is reiterated thoughtlessly by the Americans themselves.""Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of truth and knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the Gods.""Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe.""The most incomprehensible thing about the world is it is comprehensible.""Peace can not be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." - Albert Einstein - "pm striker king"- WZB. Mosul's Blog

by PotM on Jul 9, 2011 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Byrd doesnt call the plays and Byrd has only been on the team for 2 years

just because he is (probably) the best player on the team doesnt make him the team leader

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Jul 9, 2011 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Byrd had a great understanding of the game.

(isn’t he a Cpt.)

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by PotM on Jul 9, 2011 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

He had one good season

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Jul 9, 2011 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Puz has never broken 100 tackles.

In fact, he’s always been in the 80s.

"Too many of us look at Americans as dollar chasers. This is a cruel libel, even if it is reiterated thoughtlessly by the Americans themselves.""Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of truth and knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the Gods.""Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe.""The most incomprehensible thing about the world is it is comprehensible.""Peace can not be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." - Albert Einstein - "pm striker king"- WZB. Mosul's Blog

by PotM on Jul 9, 2011 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wrong again

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/10478/paul-posluszny

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Jul 9, 2011 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, he does better in a 34.

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by PotM on Jul 9, 2011 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll admitit nw he is productive equally in a 3-4 as he is in a 4-3

that productivity just put him out of our price range

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Jul 9, 2011 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Depends on the price.

"Too many of us look at Americans as dollar chasers. This is a cruel libel, even if it is reiterated thoughtlessly by the Americans themselves.""Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of truth and knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the Gods.""Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe.""The most incomprehensible thing about the world is it is comprehensible.""Peace can not be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." - Albert Einstein - "pm striker king"- WZB. Mosul's Blog

by PotM on Jul 9, 2011 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

We signed the top LB FA last year.. thats not gonna happen again

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Jul 9, 2011 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

5 Years for 30 million? If last year was capped, we would have been

at least 40 million under cap. If you restructure Crowder’s contract and Carey’s, that will keep us way under.

"Too many of us look at Americans as dollar chasers. This is a cruel libel, even if it is reiterated thoughtlessly by the Americans themselves.""Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of truth and knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the Gods.""Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe.""The most incomprehensible thing about the world is it is comprehensible.""Peace can not be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." - Albert Einstein - "pm striker king"- WZB. Mosul's Blog

by PotM on Jul 9, 2011 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Only if we manage to get that franchise tag down to something more realistic

Say 5 year 47 mil and backload the hell outta that thing,with 35 mil guaranteed. I think thatll get solai signed to a loger term deal.

by dolphinfan4lyfe on Jul 10, 2011 12:16 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

5 year 35 million sound good to me if we want to

do a long term deal. Not sure based on one good season.

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by PotM on Jul 10, 2011 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

We may have to,it seems our front office is allergic to drafting top end defensive tackle talent early

As it stands,we need to do something to solidify that spot unless we intend on running an oversized 4-3 in the next few years. Either way we have a solid Dline NOW,but what about next year?

Its one of the reasons I think we keep McDaniels,just ask him to wait a year to be handed the starter role.

Next year,both Starks,and Langford are free agents,not sure about Merling,but the front office will keep Langford. Hes quiet,and the only outside NFL news we have on him is when he lost an earing during practice. He both earned and kept the starting job for each of the last 3 seasons. Not bad for a third round pick out of a small school. But with solid depth,Starks trade value is now.

by dolphinfan4lyfe on Jul 10, 2011 3:00 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I could accept trading Starks

if we keep McDaniel.

"Too many of us look at Americans as dollar chasers. This is a cruel libel, even if it is reiterated thoughtlessly by the Americans themselves.""Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of truth and knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the Gods.""Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe.""The most incomprehensible thing about the world is it is comprehensible.""Peace can not be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." - Albert Einstein - "pm striker king"- WZB. Mosul's Blog

by PotM on Jul 10, 2011 3:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Defensive lines in a 3-4 arent built to get a great amount of sacks

The line is built to open lanes for our linebackers,overall,those are some good stats for a 3-4 Dline. Only other thing I wish for is for us to add Herzlich if we get rid of Crowder. I have a feeling this kid will be Wake 2.0

by dolphinfan4lyfe on Jul 9, 2011 1:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I would be stoked

If we got Herzlich, he has tons of heart and loves the game which could drive him to regain his form pre treatment. He could be the next stud undrafted gem this FO signs

by AcolyteofRa on Jul 9, 2011 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd only be okay with this as a PS player

If you watched him play this year he was a shell of his former self… he needs alot more time

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Jul 9, 2011 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hes the kind of guy that will work his butt off

Cmon man,the guy just got off chemo and having nuts and bolts put in his leg. He still did pretty good for all that happened to him. Guy like that will only get better.

Not to mention that before this year,he was touted as a second round pick as a middle linebacker. Trust me this kid is gonna make 31 teams wish they drafted him.

by dolphinfan4lyfe on Jul 10, 2011 12:20 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Well if he is gonna play anywhere its gonna be in a 3-4 as a Jack LB

where athleticism isnt really that big an issue

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Jul 10, 2011 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Reading from the top up:

CB: Jimmy Wilson will play FS, according to the Dolphins.

ILB: Morrison is too small to play in the 34. No way we get rid of Crowder this season. He is too valuable to this D in run situations and for depth. We don’t know what Edds has to offer at the NFL level is is coming off a leg injury; which will hamper his only strength, his athleticism. Spitler will surprise most IMO. He has great size and athleticism and played well the first time he was allowed to start (sat behind an All-American for 3 years). He should be good enough to make this coaching staff carry 4 ILBs. Can’t complain about UDFAs though.

OLB: This scenario has a bunch of things riding on this being successful. The Giants releasing Kiwanuka. UDFA Ugo Chiansa playing well enough to cut Ikaika Alama-Francis. If Misi goes down, we would have no one to play SOLB and would have to tie our hands behind our backs defensively if anything happened to Misi.

NT: We will probably bring in a young guy to compete with Kearse for the backup NT position. OR not have a backup, Starks can play well enough there. Not a bad pickup though.

DE: We need 5 DEs. One of our projects would do.

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by PotM on Jul 9, 2011 11:22 AM EDT reply actions  

Morrison is too small?? Yeah thats not right at all

Kiwanuka is an UFA which means he is fair game unless the lockout changes things for this year

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Jul 9, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Morrison = 240 pounds.

at least 10 pounds too small. At his age, not quite as easy to do.

Doesn’t the Giants hold his rights?

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by PotM on Jul 9, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Do you mean the Jaguars.. and no they don't. He's a UFA

I wouldn’t list him if there was any real chance that we couldn’t get him.

So 240 is too small to play ILB in a 3-4… Lawrence Timmons (235 lbs.) James Farrior (243 lbs.) Jerod Mayo (245 lbs.) Bart Scott (242 lbs.) and etc. disagree with you

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Jul 9, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Look at this team.

No LB under 250. Misi is the biggest at 260.

Also, why do I always get crap for rooting for draft prospects that are 235-240 all the time if all thee guys are good aroung that weight?

"Too many of us look at Americans as dollar chasers. This is a cruel libel, even if it is reiterated thoughtlessly by the Americans themselves.""Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of truth and knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the Gods.""Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe.""The most incomprehensible thing about the world is it is comprehensible.""Peace can not be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." - Albert Einstein - "pm striker king"- WZB. Mosul's Blog

by PotM on Jul 9, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Forgot that.

"Too many of us look at Americans as dollar chasers. This is a cruel libel, even if it is reiterated thoughtlessly by the Americans themselves.""Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of truth and knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the Gods.""Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe.""The most incomprehensible thing about the world is it is comprehensible.""Peace can not be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." - Albert Einstein - "pm striker king"- WZB. Mosul's Blog

by PotM on Jul 9, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah but he was a converted DT

not DE, DT!!!

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

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by Souwantmyname on Jul 9, 2011 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure he played DE in college

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Driving the Roberto Wallace Bandwagon
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by The Earl on Jul 9, 2011 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought that too.

"Too many of us look at Americans as dollar chasers. This is a cruel libel, even if it is reiterated thoughtlessly by the Americans themselves.""Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of truth and knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the Gods.""Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe.""The most incomprehensible thing about the world is it is comprehensible.""Peace can not be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." - Albert Einstein - "pm striker king"- WZB. Mosul's Blog

by PotM on Jul 9, 2011 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I positive he played DT for Detroit

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Jul 9, 2011 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe as a last ditch effort to get some value out of him, but his size says DE.

"Too many of us look at Americans as dollar chasers. This is a cruel libel, even if it is reiterated thoughtlessly by the Americans themselves.""Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of truth and knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the Gods.""Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe.""The most incomprehensible thing about the world is it is comprehensible.""Peace can not be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." - Albert Einstein - "pm striker king"- WZB. Mosul's Blog

by PotM on Jul 9, 2011 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

You do realize that he lost he had to lose a ton of weight just to get down to 280

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

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by Souwantmyname on Jul 9, 2011 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep, 290 is a SSDE.

"Too many of us look at Americans as dollar chasers. This is a cruel libel, even if it is reiterated thoughtlessly by the Americans themselves.""Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of truth and knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the Gods.""Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe.""The most incomprehensible thing about the world is it is comprehensible.""Peace can not be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." - Albert Einstein - "pm striker king"- WZB. Mosul's Blog

by PotM on Jul 9, 2011 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep, 290 is a SSDE.

"Too many of us look at Americans as dollar chasers. This is a cruel libel, even if it is reiterated thoughtlessly by the Americans themselves.""Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of truth and knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the Gods.""Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe.""The most incomprehensible thing about the world is it is comprehensible.""Peace can not be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." - Albert Einstein - "pm striker king"- WZB. Mosul's Blog

by PotM on Jul 9, 2011 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Find one 4-3 DE or 3-4 OLB that plays at 290

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

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by Souwantmyname on Jul 9, 2011 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can find a 43 DE that plays at 330

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Bryant

"Too many of us look at Americans as dollar chasers. This is a cruel libel, even if it is reiterated thoughtlessly by the Americans themselves.""Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of truth and knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the Gods.""Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe.""The most incomprehensible thing about the world is it is comprehensible.""Peace can not be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." - Albert Einstein - "pm striker king"- WZB. Mosul's Blog

by PotM on Jul 9, 2011 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Okay..lol

that’s a 3-4 end if I’ve ever saw one. if you needed evidence look at his stats

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/11358/red-bryant

1 sack in 3 years

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Jul 9, 2011 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

270-280 is perfect for

a WSDE. 290 is good for a SSDE. 300-310 is good for the 5 tech DT. 310-350 is good for a 1 tech DT (this guy just needs to plug the run). The reason why they need to big huge is to keep OL off the LBers. the LBers make the play in the 43. In the 34, the DL plays two gap responsibility and making plays is more of a team effort.

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by PotM on Jul 9, 2011 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Treench war you seem quite versed!

wopper "the king" computer
We often look rite past the positive's cuz the negative's-r-so hard they dominate!

by wild zion beaver on Jul 9, 2011 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I played all these positions.

all LBer positions. and FS. I know my D (at least basic concepts)

"Too many of us look at Americans as dollar chasers. This is a cruel libel, even if it is reiterated thoughtlessly by the Americans themselves.""Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of truth and knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the Gods.""Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe.""The most incomprehensible thing about the world is it is comprehensible.""Peace can not be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." - Albert Einstein - "pm striker king"- WZB. Mosul's Blog

by PotM on Jul 9, 2011 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I even played NT in a 52 and 53

"Too many of us look at Americans as dollar chasers. This is a cruel libel, even if it is reiterated thoughtlessly by the Americans themselves.""Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of truth and knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the Gods.""Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe.""The most incomprehensible thing about the world is it is comprehensible.""Peace can not be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." - Albert Einstein - "pm striker king"- WZB. Mosul's Blog

by PotM on Jul 9, 2011 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

What school, & year, did mom take any polaroids?!?

wopper "the king" computer
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by wild zion beaver on Jul 9, 2011 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

PBC 08, WOLB, Freshman

Didn’t start. Although the only evaluation I got as pass coverage. I’m more of a run stuffer, as before this season I didn’t really cover the pass from the OLB position. Played LT all season (we didn’t have any run plays, just strictly passing)

PBC 09, FS/OLB Hybrid and DE.
Came back for the last game. (Shoulder injury from working out) Practiced the FS and Hybrid, but got time in the game as an SSDE.

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by PotM on Jul 9, 2011 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

DT and NT stuff was when I first started because

I was so strong. Then I went elsewhere when I grew and people saw my mobility.

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by PotM on Jul 9, 2011 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Okay, find me 1 SDE that weighs in at 290

that isnt some situational player that is mislabeled by espn of wikipedia

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by Souwantmyname on Jul 9, 2011 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mario Williams

see below.

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by The Earl on Jul 9, 2011 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

that is if you aren't including 3-4 DEs

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by The Earl on Jul 9, 2011 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not

The whole point was that Ike was in fact a DT before we tried to make him a OLB

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by Souwantmyname on Jul 9, 2011 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was drafted as a DE...

If he played DT, it was in situational roles. If he was at 290 and was a DT, then we would have used him as a 3-4 DE. I specifically remember watching him in an interview last TC where he talked about dropping weight from 270 to about 255 in order to play OLB. Don’t be surprised when he shows up for camp around 260 and drops to 250-255.

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by The Earl on Jul 10, 2011 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's fine

Obviously the coaches see some athleticism in him for them to try and force this transformation in him. At 280 he was too big to play OLB for us.

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

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by Souwantmyname on Jul 10, 2011 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

so i'm up was happening to all my good buds tonite!

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by wild zion beaver on Jul 10, 2011 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

RAGE!!!!!!

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by Souwantmyname on Jul 10, 2011 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

He he what made u flip out?

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by wild zion beaver on Jul 10, 2011 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

In a word.... Pot

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

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by Souwantmyname on Jul 10, 2011 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

He can be eggzasperateing!

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by wild zion beaver on Jul 10, 2011 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

I feel like he's my little brother of something

Anything I say he says the opposite

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by Souwantmyname on Jul 10, 2011 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Corney but Oky dokey!

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by wild zion beaver on Jul 10, 2011 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

mine's corny?!?!?

Honky dorry

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by Souwantmyname on Jul 10, 2011 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

And he's still on the team for a reason.

He is the exetreme, but he is on the team for run situations.

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by PotM on Jul 9, 2011 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here's a guy close to 280.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Long_(American_football)

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by PotM on Jul 9, 2011 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

There are a few...

Julius Peppers: 283
Mario Williams: 295
There are several others who play around the 270-280 mark at 4-3 DE. Most 3-4 OLB are lighter because they need quickness in coverage. Which is why the Dolphins asked IAF to drop down to about 255-260 from 280. 280 is ideal 4-3 DE weight.

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by The Earl on Jul 9, 2011 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ideal?? Maybe

My point is 290 is entirely too big for a end. No way can a guy that big keep contain and still rush the passer unless he’s a physical freak of nature

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by Souwantmyname on Jul 9, 2011 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually, the reason

why SSDE are bigger is to keep contain.

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by PotM on Jul 9, 2011 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

NOT AT 290!!!!!

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

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by Souwantmyname on Jul 9, 2011 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Depends on how tall they are too...

Williams and Peppers are heavier, but they are taller. Dwight Freeney is 268 at 6’1". IAF is 6’5" and could probably carry that weight decently, although he’d likely be more effective around 280. I doubt the Dolphins website is correct about his weight. IAF was around 270 last TC.

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by The Earl on Jul 9, 2011 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

good point

Although if Ike had the athleticism of those 2 then that would have already shown itself

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by Souwantmyname on Jul 10, 2011 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think he's pretty athletic...

he’s just not a good football player yet. LOL

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by The Earl on Jul 10, 2011 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Earl got any tunes whilest i read the funnys!

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by wild zion beaver on Jul 10, 2011 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2euKIcljqMk

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by The Earl on Jul 10, 2011 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

you are always the showstoper!

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by wild zion beaver on Jul 10, 2011 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ummm we have 4 DEs all at 280+

Langford,Starks,Merling,and Odrick all play DE at about 300 lbs. I forget hiw much Dotson weighs.

All but the exception of Merling have either shown a midicum of success ir promise. McDaniels is even 290 lbs. We have some serious beef in our front lines.

by dolphinfan4lyfe on Jul 10, 2011 3:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

that we do

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

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by Souwantmyname on Jul 10, 2011 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was a basketball player in college

When he started playing football at Hawaii, he was only 190 and bulked up to betwenn 260 and 280. He never had to drop weight to get down to 280. The Dolphins made him drop down to about the 260 range to be more effective as an OLB. He has consistently been around 280 until he came here. Then he was asked to drop weight.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2007/draft/players/20218.html

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by The Earl on Jul 9, 2011 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

shackel him to the middel!

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by wild zion beaver on Jul 10, 2011 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

He almost doubled in size.

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by PotM on Jul 10, 2011 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

If it happens again you now have some solid info to toss back in their faces

I seriously doubt Misi is 260. He looks way smaller than Cam Wake. Dansby is also 6’4 so he can hold the extra weight better than Kirk at 6’2. The thing about weight is it becomes a liabilty if you lose your flexibility. Would you say that Crowder is the most agile of players? He is probably carrying to much weight on his frame

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by Souwantmyname on Jul 9, 2011 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, and Only Scott is a jack LBer (not sure about Timmons).

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by PotM on Jul 9, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like this one

Although that’s ALOT of signings in a shortened offseason, This would be a best case scenario but I like all the players you mentioned to bring in, they fit well.

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by BSerious72 on Jul 9, 2011 12:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Bring in Mana Silva As UDFA

Henne is the greatest and the Dolphins will go 14-2 this year and win the SB

by zeusmith on Jul 9, 2011 1:12 PM EDT reply actions  

link or he doesn't exist

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

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by Souwantmyname on Jul 9, 2011 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I doubt he's making things up like that.

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=86306&draftyear=2011&genpos=SS

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by PotM on Jul 9, 2011 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

its called a joke there Pot

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Jul 9, 2011 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

If google can't find it, it doesn't exist.

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by PotM on Jul 9, 2011 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

As much asI am not a fan of Crowder, we still play better with him on the field, he is a leader

I would make trades ,but Dobbins is a stud on special teams!!

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by 21Dave on Jul 9, 2011 11:23 PM EDT reply actions  

I think Dobbins is rubbish

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by Souwantmyname on Jul 9, 2011 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

ditto.

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by PotM on Jul 9, 2011 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

We can find an UDFA ST stud with upside. Actually we have one.

Spitler, but Dobbins took his roster spot.

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by PotM on Jul 9, 2011 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice post

I see a lot of good pick ups. Some I’ve never even thought of. That being said here’s where I differ.

DE: There’s nothing bad I can say about Langford. He’s been consistent since we drafted him in the 3rd round in 08. Starks is coming off a probowl season in 10,but I think it was more from his 09 play. The extra weight he picked up to play NT may have slowed him down a bit a DE. Merling has yet to prove his worth. Being the 1st defensive player drafted be this regime(the 32nd pick in the 08 draft).You’d think he’d be starting at one the DE spots. He did little in the 5 games he played coming back rather quickly from a torn achilles. It’s a contract year so he might set up his game. Odrick played well in the limited and I do mean limited time he played. He only lasted part of the 1st game. He’s almost 100% healthy.http://www.examiner.com/miami-dolphins-in-miami/dolphins-de-jared-odrick-almost-100-percent-after-a-horrible-leg-injury-video. Lets hope 1 or both say healthy this coming season. I would like to resign T.Mac for security.

NT: I think Jamal Williams would be an excellent addition. Mainly because he’s familiar with Nolan’s defensive scheme. I’d like to pick up Kris Jenkins as another option. If he’s healthy he’ll bring the same thing to the table as Williams and he’s 3 years younger.

OLB: Kiwanuka looks like a good pick up,but his neck injury concerns me. The Jest and Patcheats are also interested in him. He may not be as cheap as some might think. Besides that I really like Misi. He had a solid rookie year season and should only get better. Now I think we need more depth. Francis was suppose to be the opening day starter and he can also help at DE. So I might want to keep him. You don’t have to worry about cutting Moses he’s a free agent. Chiansa might be a good prospect. I like M.Herzlich as a UDFA.

ILB: I don’t have to say anything about Dansby. My main problem with Crowder is he’s often injured. I don’t know much about Morrison,but from his stat he’s a tackling machine. If his not to expensive he’d be an upgrade. And it sames he stays healthy. Edds is also a question mark. I hope he’s as good as the coaching staff says he is. And can stay healthy. I like M.Havey as an UDFA.

CB: No to Al Harris. Everything else is cool.

FS: Culver will likely be cut. Wilson will be schooled to back up Clemons. He’ll make the team by playing special teams. He’s a hard hitter and can play both safety position and CB.

ST: You forgot J.Denney our long snapper. He’s had a probowl season last year.

I wish we would re-sign T.Mac and maybe trade Crowder and Bell.

by NawlinsPhinFan on Jul 10, 2011 12:47 AM EDT reply actions   2 recs

epic masterpice!

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by wild zion beaver on Jul 10, 2011 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

DE: Starks will be at his old weight and might be faster than before.

Merling is good in situational passing situations. He should be our 5 tech when we go nickel. With Starks being the 1 tech. Odrick was a beast against the run and we have 3 great starters at DE.

NT: Hopefully Kearse, that NT from last year, Baker, or a UDFA becomes good depth. We can’t spend $ on a backup NT.

OLB: Kiwanuka would be a situational pass rusher like Wake in 09. Low risk, high reward. Herzilch is a ILB. IAF is a keeper at SOLB. Not great, but can do what Roth did in 08 without the headaches.

ILB: Would like to upgrade the thumper position if possible. If we can, cut Dobbins and keep Spitler on the active roster. Try to restructure Crowder’s contract so that it is long term, but between 1.5-2.0 mill with heavy incentives he will only reach if he regains 08 status.

CB: Keep either WA or Harris. WA has injury concerns, but the last time he was healthy, he was one of the leagues best corners (at not letting the receiver catch the ball). Harris is a vet that can show the young pups a thing or two. Both are good in the slot. Carrol could break out and leave us with a great slot guy or starter, or take a step backward. Reason why I want to have Harris or WA back. Bring in a UDFA to compete with Ness for the last spot.

FS: Clemons is still the starter until proven otherwise. He is a smart FS that is really beaten and has no true weakness. Clemons has a knack for FFs. Jones is a FS still until we see otherwise, he looks to be a playmaker and needs to see more snaps. Ness and Culver provide good depth behind two talented young players.

SS: Bell is an amazing guy with a great story. Bell is best used as a hybrid SS/LBer like in 08. I’d like to see Jones here eventually, but he needs to learn one position well before we switch him up ala Jason Allen. Culver provides veteran depth. Jimmy Wilson will go to the PS most likely.

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by PotM on Jul 10, 2011 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with ypu on Starks completely

he needs to lose some weight so he can re-gain his 09 form… I was telling people at the time its a bad idea to try Starks at NT. It weakens 2 positions

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I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Jul 10, 2011 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

The NT switch was an experiment that

didn’t have a chance to work out or not. Believe me, Starks is probably already at his old playing weight.

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by PotM on Jul 10, 2011 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Merling was drafted to be a starter

 Not a situational player. It;s a contract year so he might step up for the money. If he does it’s a plus. If not he’ll be gone next year.

NT: If Soliai gets injured were in trouble. I don’t think Kearse can fill the void. And neither one of the Baker boys showed me anything last year. At NT or DE.

OLB: If we plan on using Kiwanuka in that role I’m all for it. If the price is right.

CB: Keep Allen or Sapp for veteran leadership. Don’t know if Vonte can play the nickle,but if he can move him to the nickle(like the do with Woodson at G.B.) and let Carroll man the outside. Where he seems more comfortable.

FS: I like Clemons also. He almost made me forget about Gerbil. A few more INT’s would be a plus ,but none of the DB’s could hold onto the ball last year.

SS: I like Bell. He’s our longest tenured Dolphins. He’s played for 4 different head coaches. He’s slowing down and while he still has some value I’d trade him. We have his replacement in Jones.

by NawlinsPhinFan on Jul 10, 2011 2:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Even if he is a bust for the 32nd pick, he's good depth and should not be cut based

on draft status, ala Ginn.

NT: We just can’t spend big $$$$$ on this position after giving Soliai big money.

CB: Carrol is a huge ? because of limited snaps in 2010. We should not rely on him for our nickel packages. Btw, Carrol is very fast (4.3) and is very quick in and out of cuts. He also is very good at turning his hips. Carrol is a truly raw prospect with mega star upside. WA will not be the same after two leg injuries back to back. Sapp is a poor ole Sapp and Harris is much better IMO.

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by PotM on Jul 10, 2011 2:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm never said cut him

He’s in a contract year. If he plays well re-sign him if not let him go. We didn’t even miss him last season. I’m a Ginn fan I didn’t think he was treated fairly.

NT: I’n not talking breaking the bank. Williams is 35 and Jenkins will soon be 32 coming back from an injury. We should be able to sign either 1 of them to an incentive laden contact.

CB: I think Harris is though and Sapp doesn’t get enough credit. Mostly becuase of the trade.

by NawlinsPhinFan on Jul 10, 2011 2:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

He is much like Culver, not a starter, but could fill in and not be a huge hole in the D.

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by PotM on Jul 10, 2011 3:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

FS: Clemons will come into TC as the starter, what

he is after that is up to Clemon’s and Jone’s progressions.

SS: Jones has not played SS at the NFL level and I would caution against throwing him in the fire being that it is a new position and while he can do it, changing a guy’s position every year is not a good thing. Let him stick to one position. Bell is worth much more to this team than what we would ever get in a trade for a pick.

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by PotM on Jul 10, 2011 2:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Clemons, right now, is the starter.

TC will decide if Clemons loses it. I think Clemons has plenty of room to grow, but so does Jones. ither way, we are good at the FS position for now.

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by PotM on Jul 10, 2011 3:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Got you

I thought you was replying to a comment I made

by NawlinsPhinFan on Jul 10, 2011 3:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wilson is a 7th round pick out of Montana

I’m expected to believe he can make the team AND make Tyrone Culver expendable??? Too much, too much

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by Souwantmyname on Jul 10, 2011 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

This^^^

He’ll shine on ST and make the roster.

by NawlinsPhinFan on Jul 10, 2011 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

He'll have to out do Ness on ST.

Ness is a very good CB prospect with the size for FS. It will be hard to unseat Ness as the project/ST player among our secondary. I like Wilson, but he will need time to get back into football. (talking from experience)

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by PotM on Jul 10, 2011 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

the year he got locked up,he was graded at a second round pick

Its not too unplausible that he might wind up beating Culver out.

by dolphinfan4lyfe on Jul 10, 2011 5:43 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

PS,dont give me that he was locked up,so hes outta shape

I been locked up,i came out in the best shape of my life. Besides,it worked for Mike Vick,plus hell prolly have a chip on his shoulder

by dolphinfan4lyfe on Jul 10, 2011 5:46 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

It is hard to get back into football.

Not only is he trying to get back into football after missing two years; he is trying going from college to the pros. He is going to look lost at first, IMO, but make some plays every once in a while.

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by PotM on Jul 10, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Were not expecting him to start,only play backup to Bell

Imo,Clemmins even looked lost at times. With the exception of Bell,this is an extremely young unit. Either way hes mostly going to be called upon for special teams. Hes got a lot to proove going in,but thats his best chance to beat out Culver for the job.

I think he will,and be a hell of a pickup fir a seventh rounder.

by dolphinfan4lyfe on Jul 10, 2011 3:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

And if Bell goes down?

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by PotM on Jul 10, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jones is still on the team right

It would be dumb of our FO to not move Reshad over at SS now that we know Clemons can handle FS

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by Souwantmyname on Jul 10, 2011 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like the idea, but it has never been mentioned by

this coaching staff. Only by posters. I just think that the chances of Wilson making the team, considering the great depth and his own issues, are slim to none. Him getting put on the PS? Highly likely. Him making it next year? even moreso.

Also, dffl’s opinion is that we would need Jones to be able to man the FS backup position because “Clemons looked lost at times”. Even if Clemons didn’t, we till would need a backup to the FS position. There are only two guys on the team that can do that, Jones and Culver. In this situation, Jones is a SS and Culver is gone. I don’t want to have a young guy that switches positions often because we all saw that happen to JA and look where that got him (even though he looked good this past season).

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by PotM on Jul 11, 2011 2:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

We don't wanna lose Culver

You can’t teach experience and knowing where to be. Culver has shown that he is a solid albeit unspectacular veteran safety. I would like to see him or Jones replace Bell on passing downs.

I really don’t think there is much difference between the 2 safety positions. In regards to Wilson the coaching staff needs to give him a position and stick with it.

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by Souwantmyname on Jul 11, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

DE: Starks will be back at his old weight and

might be faster than before.

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by PotM on Jul 10, 2011 12:57 AM EDT reply actions  

So true.....

We all know a short kid who reckons he can take anyone on

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by PotM on Jul 10, 2011 1:54 AM EDT reply actions  

Sign Manny Lawson,

move Misi inside and trade Crowder.

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by uncle finster on Jul 10, 2011 7:12 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

down for that.

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by BSerious72 on Jul 10, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why move misi and trade our only good ILB depth?

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by PotM on Jul 10, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Trade Crowder,Dansby,Henne,& Bell To the Raiders for next years 1,2,3, & 5 picks!

 Well all our getting older, sure but still servicable. With the cash we save, & along with two #1 picks we’ll be easly able to move up & draft Luck, if we even haft-to!

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by wild zion beaver on Jul 10, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't trade Dansby...

but one of our DEs, then we’re talking.

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by The Earl on Jul 10, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Depends, if we can get Burfict and Luck

with those picks and get Puz in FA and Orton for a 3rd, we would be good.

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by PotM on Jul 10, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

there seams to be perfect replacements in the higher picks but there again we need to develope there specalitys

The (prize) I’m looking squarely at is luck!

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by wild zion beaver on Jul 10, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Optimizum riens

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by wild zion beaver on Jul 10, 2011 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nah,just looking at it differently than most

Year before last we had 7 wins,but 5 of them came in the fourth quarter due to Hennes arm. That was with Grove,Ginn,Smiley,Ricky,and Ronnie.

Now picture this,we added B.Marsh last year,replaced Ginn with two undrafted free agent rookies,traded away Smiley,kept both Ricky and Ronnie,and let go of Grove. What happened,same 7-9 season,and that was with a much improved defense that really shouldnt be accredited to last years draft class,because only Misi had an “if any” impact depending on who you ask. You ask me,Nolan doesnt get near enough credit that he deserves.

Fast foreward to this year. We get a younger unscared rookie WR that is arguably faster than even Ginn. Boom,opens up passing game. We get Daniel Thomas,arguably a younger version of Ricky to rehab the running game,and we are apparently going hard after the runningback from Carolina,which takes a younger version of Ronnie into the equation. Enter our new Center,if hes even half as good as his brother,we have our pushing center that can replace oft injured Grove. Not to mention Charles clay,who may or may not be the modern flying squirrel.

That gives Henne 85% of the tools he had at his disposal in 2009. Minus the pulling Guard,which could be taken care of if either Jerry progresses,or we go after a free agent like Dahl. Plus remarks like the one Sparano made about Henne,could help instill the confidence needed to succeed on this level. That isnt optimism,just looking at the glass half full,especially if our guys can stay healthy.

by dolphinfan4lyfe on Jul 11, 2011 12:03 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

Ok coach!

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by wild zion beaver on Jul 11, 2011 2:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Your pulling guard is Pouncey

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by Souwantmyname on Jul 11, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Except it's the raiders.......

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by PotM on Jul 10, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lawson doesnt hold a candle to Kiwi

unless your kinda worried about the neck injury… which I guess is understandable. Remember the last big time free agent that we didnt sign because of a injury… It rhymes with Jew Bee’s

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by Souwantmyname on Jul 10, 2011 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dobies?

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by Alpha6 on Jul 11, 2011 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

A neck injury is much worse! One bad hit and he's in a wheelchair.

Lawson would be perfect, he’s familiar with Mike Nolan and he would not stunt Misi’s growth. Lawson can play both sides and is excellent in coverage. Sacks from your 3rd best OLB are just a bonus

by JP 23 on Jul 11, 2011 1:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Your right that Lawson wouldnt stunt Misi's growth

That’s because they are pretty much the same player. The addition of Lawson doesn’t solve our pass rushing issues outside of Wake

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by Souwantmyname on Jul 11, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

The neck is a problem,

also, we already have a WOLB, and thats what Kiwi is, he would not sign here to play the strong side, in Wake’s shadow, that would never happen imo.

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by uncle finster on Jul 12, 2011 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Look at Wake's film more closely

Wake prefers to rush strong side on passing downs. Kiwi would be our weakside rusher with alot of one on one matchups because of Wake.

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by Souwantmyname on Jul 13, 2011 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wrong....

Wake was moved around last season the same way Porter was when he was down here. But like Porter, most of Wake’s sacks came on the weakside. Just cause Wake has the ability to also rush from the strong side doesn’t mean I want him to do it full time in favor of the new guy like Kiwi!

by JP 23 on Jul 13, 2011 12:39 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Wake rushes from the LE position in our nickel package (4 man front)

He got several sacks from that side (I remember him sacking Brady, Favre, and Sanchez from the defensive left side).

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by The Earl on Jul 13, 2011 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

And your point?

I said he had a couple sacks from the strongside. But the majority of his sacks came on the weakside. It’s a fact. He’s versatile, no question, but he’s better on the weakside.

I guarantee you if he played Strongside linebacker full-time last year, he wouldn’t have had 14+ sacks.

by JP 23 on Jul 13, 2011 1:33 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

He had more than a couple...

I can remember at least 6 sacks where he rushed from the defensive left side and one where he ran a stunt and came up the middle. That’s half.

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by The Earl on Jul 13, 2011 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

RTs are usually worse than LTs.

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by PotM on Jul 13, 2011 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

You also have to remember that the strong side isn't just the left side,

it’s the side with the extra blocker (TE for the most part), so sometimes the right is the strong side.

Also. it’s not just where you line up, they are expected to do different things, a SOLBs first priority is setting the edge, Kiwi wants to rush the passer, thats his strength.

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by uncle finster on Jul 13, 2011 6:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

^^^^ agreed with Uncle Finster

Lawson and Misi are not the same. Misi excels against the run, Lawson excels against the pass.

I’d rather have Lawson or Antwan Barnes over Kiwi, just my opinion…

by JP 23 on Jul 13, 2011 12:34 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

what are you smoking?

Go look at Lawson’s sack numbers on his career.. then you’ll see that he is a balanced OLB just like Misi…

If you’d take Barnes over Kiwi then I’m glad your not the Miami Dolphins GM

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by Souwantmyname on Jul 13, 2011 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

You're looking at this through tunnel vision. You see the big name and you automatically want to hop on his jock!

I’m looking at the big picture. Age, scheme, talent, $$$, health, etc.

Barnes will cost less (MUCH LESS), pick up atleast 5-6 sacks as a reserve, contribute on special teams (which Kiwi WILL NOT). It’s not as if Kiwi is going to start over Misi or Wake, so why pay big bucks to a reserve player? So yes, I will take Barnes over Kiwi. I’m glad you sir are not the GM of the Fins or we’d look a lot more like the Redskins…..

And you’re judging Misi based off a rookie year. Give him time to grow guy!

by JP 23 on Jul 13, 2011 12:46 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Rushing the QB is not our team's biggest problem, so why invest big money on a 3rd pass rusher when we could spend that money on bigger needs....

Like QB or RB? We don’t need another starting OLB. We’ll be just fine with a situational pass rusher like Barnes off the bench. We don’t need to invest $8-10 a year on Kiwi unless we’re guaranteeing him a starting job, which we’re not….

by JP 23 on Jul 13, 2011 12:58 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

The only reaon why we dont have probles rushing the passer is because of Wake!

I for one would like to have some insurance in case Wake goes down. If he does where else is the pass rush gonna come from? Certainly not from Misi

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by Souwantmyname on Jul 13, 2011 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not saying we shouldn't or won't add another pass rusher as insurance should Wake get hurt or Misi flop, but signing the top FA OLB and paying him big money isn't the answer.

Kiwi wants big bucks and a guaranteed starting job. He’s out of our price range (of what we’re willing to spend on a situational pass rusher) and he’s not going settle as an “insurance policy”, which is exactly what he’d be down here. Forget Kiwi, this isn’t Madden! You can’t build an all star team that easily, a lot of things must come into play….

by JP 23 on Jul 13, 2011 1:18 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

If we sign Kiwi I guarantee you he starts over Misi

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by Souwantmyname on Jul 13, 2011 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Everyone just needs to realize...

It is a 95% chance Misi is our starting OLB this year opposite of Wake. Some may not like Misi (I do), but the coaching staff and plenty of scouts are pretty big on him and think he can do a lot more than some of the Phinsider community thinks he can.

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by Finhead83 on Jul 13, 2011 8:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

I understand that

Misi had an okay year as a rookie especially considering he was learning a new position. I just believe there is an immediate upgrade to the position in free agency and we have the cap room to act.

We are in a division with Tom Brady. Another good pass rusher isnt going to hurt

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by Souwantmyname on Jul 14, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Excellent post! Rec'd...

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by Alpha6 on Jul 10, 2011 4:16 PM EDT reply actions  

thanks again!

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by Souwantmyname on Jul 10, 2011 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice gave a rec myself early & I'm just now getting around to telling!

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by wild zion beaver on Jul 11, 2011 2:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gracias senor' beav

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by Souwantmyname on Jul 11, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think all the moves for Kiwi and Morrison are unlikely.

And I wouldn’t say Starks’ experiment at NT ended because of a failure on his part. Injuries to Odrick, and Merling as well if you’d like to include him, forced Starks to move back to DE.

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by Finhead83 on Jul 11, 2011 12:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Neither one of those FA's will break the bank but do represent a significant upgrade at their respected positions.. imo

Listen our coaching staff was dreaming when they thought a pass rushing DT could switch to a run plugging NT.

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by Souwantmyname on Jul 11, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

After looking over all the FA OLB

None is an upgrade over Misi as far as a pass rusher(maybe Kiwi) and he was only in his 1st season. That’s what everyone is crying about right his 4.5 sacks. Kiwi looks to play the part,but that neck injury bothers me. If he’s healthy and comes at a good price I guess,but more depth is what we need.

by NawlinsPhinFan on Jul 11, 2011 4:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Kiwi would provide depth and a situational pass rusher.

Kiwi has the potential to cover for an injured Wake without it being too noticeable (in respect to now).

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by PotM on Jul 11, 2011 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

In terms of rushing the passer Kiwi destroys Misi in the category

In the NFL andeven back in his college days. Kiwanuka has a history of getting to the QB. Misi unfortunately doesnt.

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

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by Souwantmyname on Jul 13, 2011 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

It hasnt been just 1 year

He wasnt a good pass rusher in COLLEGE! He just doesnt have the quickness or the moves to be a 8+ sack a year player for us. Give em all the time you want but its not gonna change things. Misi basically had 1 on 1 matchups all year in passing situations and he had 4.5 sacks. Kiwi had 4 in 3 games…

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by Souwantmyname on Jul 13, 2011 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

To be fair Kiwi

Only had 4 in his rookie season and only posted 8 sacks once in his 5 years in the league. That’s the only time he had more then Misi 4.5.

by NawlinsPhinFan on Jul 13, 2011 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

The season before his injury

He had only 3 sacks in a full season. Last year he was looking hot but who knows how he would’ve finished. History doesn’t show him being a great sacker in the NFL.

by NawlinsPhinFan on Jul 13, 2011 1:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

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