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'11 Miami Dolphin Offseason Moves: Offense

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Now that the NFL labor negotiations are finally getting back on track I wanted to make a list of off-season moves that I think would benefit the Miami Dolphins. When things finally get settled there will no doubt be little time to sign free agents before the season begins. I tend to have a big picture outlook when it comes to the improvement of a team. I do not subscribe to the "WIN NOW" philosophy.  I am desperately hoping that our teams future outlook will not be jeopardized by a coaching regime’s attempt to stave off termination with stop gap measures.  So with that fine intro (pats self on back) I will get to my player moves

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POSITION QB:


Depth Chart: Chad Henne, Tyler Thigpen
Roster Moves: assign Tom Brandstater to the Practice Squad
Sign: N/A I previously did want the Phins to sign Pat Devlin as a UDFA but after reading this article about his Pro day I say "no mas" Scroll down to Delaware

Analysis: As you can see no major changes were made. Some will say after a sub par season  that Henne should not be given the reigns to this team that is most definitely not a 7-9 team talent wise. I am by no means a die hard Henne supporter but we do need to take into account the current NFL season. There just isn’t enough time to bring in a high priced free agent QB to learn the offense. This season is going to be a sink or swim scenario for Chad Henne. Either he proves that he has what it takes to be our starting QB or he leads this team to another dreadful season ushering in a new era of Dolphins football. Which of course could be lead by one of 3 very promising future NFL QB’s in Andrew Luck, Matt Barkley and Landry Jones.

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POSITION RB:

Depth Chart: Daniel Thomas, Lex Hilliard, Noel Devine, Lousaka Polite
Roster Moves: Allow Ronnie Brown and Ricky Williams to enter free agency
Sign: Noel Devine UDFA, sign Derrick Locke to the PS

Analysis: Yep everyone say goodbye to the RnR Express. If the pathetic rushing numbers didn’t convince you  that a change needed to happen then just look at their age and cap numbers. The youth movement is on and damn it looks promising. Daniel Thomas looks to be exactly as advertised. A powerful 2 down back that will move the chains and most likely have a nice YPC average. A good pick IMO. Will this be the year that Lex Hilliard will finally be allowed to show what he can offer? I sure hope so. A GM will be hard pressed to find a RB as versatile as Lex. He is a strong runner between the tackles that hit’s the hole quickly with little wasted movement. He has shown to possess solid hands out of the backfield and an ability to play FB reasonably well. Now onto a sexy pick!! If you didn’t know lemme tell you Noel Devine is a game breaker! He did not run at the combine since he was nursing a minor injury but he did post a 40 yd dash of 4.26 and 4.38 seconds at his Pro Day.  Those times would have ranked him either in 1st or 2nd place at the Combine depending on which time you take.I HIGHLY recommend you watch his HS football vid's on Youtube  They are great watch. He will undoubtedly become a lethal 3rd down back and return man. How often will team‘s gameplan for a team‘s 3rd RB? That means opportunity for Noel Devine. Polite is on notice as of right now. He was downright AWFUL last year in pass pro and in run blocking. He can’t expect to make this team solely on his stellar short yardage conversion rate.

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POSITION WR:

Depth Chart: Brandon Marshall, Devon Bess, Edmund Gates, Brian Hartline, Roberto Wallace
Roster Moves: Sadly cut Marlon Moore since I don’t think he will be eligible for the PS. Sign UDFA Tori Gurley to the PS and UDFA Dane Sanzenbacker.

Analysis: Pretty straightforward here. We have a very solid WR core with multiple WR’s that excel in specific roles. We solved our biggest problem area in drafting WR Ed Gates out of Abilene Christian. Now it just remains to be seen if Chad Henne can actually get the ball into his hands. One key positional battle in training camp will be between Brian Hartline, Roberto Wallace and Marlon Moore. Some think that Hartline is a lock to make the team since he was a starter last year. I don’t think it will be that easy. He is coming off a season ending injury and will have to deal with 2 talented WR in their own right. Wallace has the measurable that you can’t find off the street and Marlon Moore is the definition of smooth. In the end I think Hartline makes it and Wallces edges  out Marlon due to his solid ST’s play. We're gonna miss him




 


POSITION: TE


Depth Chart: Anthony Fasano, Bo Scaife, Wesley Saunders
Roster Moves: Cut Joey Haynos, Cut Jeron Mastrud, , Sign Bo Scaife, Sign UDFA TE Wesley SaundersAssign Dedrick Epps to PS, Assign Charles Clay to the PS

Analysis: So Fasano got a brand new contract during the season last year.  I consider him to be a ideal complimentary TE to pair up with superstar TE. Paying him as one when he doesn’t have the stats to back it up doesn’t make sense to me but what do I know? Lets bid against ourselves!!!! Whew that rant has been building a long time… Anyway back on topic. Bo Scaife is a solid TE that can help equally well in the pass and run game. Think a slightly better David Martin. He would be a nice addition only if the price is right. Now this guy I want as a priority UDFA (PIC) Wesley Saunders is a knucklehead but a TALENTED knucklehead. Saunders is a 6’5 270 lb. TE beast of a TE. Guy looks like a small LT but he has the skills to contribute as a WR. He was dismissed from S. Car, for lying to the NCAA about trips paid for by agents. IMO that is not so bad since he was going to get penalized either way if he admitted to it or not. This guy has superstar potential and at the very least will be a solid blocking TE. His hands are also freakishly large. That has to help right? Oh and I didn’t list Zach Miller because he won’t get out of Oakland.

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POSITION: OFFENSIVE LINE

Depth Chart: Starters: Jake Long, Mike Pouncey, Richie Incognito, John Jerry, Marshall Yanda,
Reserves: Nate Garner OG/OT, Lydon Murtha OT, Pat McQuistan G/T, Jake Kirkpatrick C
Roster Moves: Sign Marshall Yanda, Trade/Cut Vernon Carey, Cut Joe Berger, Sign UDFA Jake Kirkpatrick, Sign UDFA OT Jarriel King to the PS

Analysis: With the 16th pick in the 2011 the Miami Dolphins take John Stamos’ brotherrrrr… So yeah we took a guard with our first pick in the draft. There’s that… ‘cough’ Well since we didn’t address the Vernon Carey situation then we need to do it in free agency. Matty explained his situation perfectly righ here I think he’s done and we could use the cap room foooooor Marshall Yanda! Matty came through again with some awesome linkage showing just how good Yanda is. Luckily for us we have our choice between him and another talented RT in Tyson Clabo. Both are immediate upgrades over Carey. The edge goes to Yanda since he is only 26 years old. Which means he may not even have hit his peak. I like Incog’s at center and Jerry and Garner will fight it out at RG. I’d prefer it if Jerry beats him out so we can use Garner as a super sub. Jake Kikpatrick is a very talented center and I’m very surprised he went undrafted. He could be a sneaky good acquisition

Okay there it is. That is my entire offseason wish list for the offense. All comments and opinions are welcome as well as any improvements that you would add. "If you like what you see put a REC on it"

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Don’t agree with the WR, Gates will be battling to even see the field, et alone jump Bess and Hartline on the depth chart.

"Too many of us look at Americans as dollar chasers. This is a cruel libel, even if it is reiterated thoughtlessly by the Americans themselves.""Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of truth and knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the Gods.""Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe.""The most incomprehensible thing about the world is it is comprehensible.""Peace can not be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." - Albert Einstein - "pm striker king"- WZB. Mosul's Blog

by PotM on Jul 6, 2011 10:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Gates will be on the field plenty

Just by the fact that his speed helps everybody. It keeps safety’s back which helps Marshall and Bess open up lanes with their intermediate routes as well as keeping safeties out of the box on running downs.

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Jul 6, 2011 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I will explain my stance in full tomorrow.

"Too many of us look at Americans as dollar chasers. This is a cruel libel, even if it is reiterated thoughtlessly by the Americans themselves.""Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of truth and knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the Gods.""Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe.""The most incomprehensible thing about the world is it is comprehensible.""Peace can not be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." - Albert Einstein - "pm striker king"- WZB. Mosul's Blog

by PotM on Jul 6, 2011 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

with the lack of training camp dont see gates seeing the field much except in the return game.

by warpigs on Jul 8, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

All Gates has to learn is what route to run on a given play

If worse comes to worse he can be told what to do on every play the vets. He’ll be fine. I’d be more worried about Daniel Thomas. He’s got to learn our offensive vernacular, blitz pickups and the playbook in time for him to become our starting rb

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Jul 8, 2011 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

And run routes and get chemistry with Henne and run block, etc.

"Too many of us look at Americans as dollar chasers. This is a cruel libel, even if it is reiterated thoughtlessly by the Americans themselves.""Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of truth and knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the Gods.""Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe.""The most incomprehensible thing about the world is it is comprehensible.""Peace can not be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." - Albert Einstein - "pm striker king"- WZB. Mosul's Blog

by PotM on Jul 8, 2011 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

And run routes and get chemistry with Henne and run block, etc.

"Too many of us look at Americans as dollar chasers. This is a cruel libel, even if it is reiterated thoughtlessly by the Americans themselves.""Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of truth and knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the Gods.""Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe.""The most incomprehensible thing about the world is it is comprehensible.""Peace can not be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." - Albert Einstein - "pm striker king"- WZB. Mosul's Blog

by PotM on Jul 8, 2011 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

ONLY CLICK POST ONCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
Apple has a new anti-sexting feature. Brett Favre, you going to want to get the Android!

by texascowpunk on Jul 8, 2011 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hit enter.

"Too many of us look at Americans as dollar chasers. This is a cruel libel, even if it is reiterated thoughtlessly by the Americans themselves.""Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of truth and knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the Gods.""Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe.""The most incomprehensible thing about the world is it is comprehensible.""Peace can not be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." - Albert Einstein - "pm striker king"- WZB. Mosul's Blog

by PotM on Jul 8, 2011 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe try using the post button. Perhaps that will fix your constant issue.

"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
Apple has a new anti-sexting feature. Brett Favre, you going to want to get the Android!

by texascowpunk on Jul 8, 2011 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pot has issues

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Jul 8, 2011 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

He knows. I try not to rub it in.

"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
Apple has a new anti-sexting feature. Brett Favre, you going to want to get the Android!

by texascowpunk on Jul 8, 2011 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Me?

I’m fucking great. Fuck the haters.

"Too many of us look at Americans as dollar chasers. This is a cruel libel, even if it is reiterated thoughtlessly by the Americans themselves.""Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of truth and knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the Gods.""Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe.""The most incomprehensible thing about the world is it is comprehensible.""Peace can not be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." - Albert Einstein - "pm striker king"- WZB. Mosul's Blog

by PotM on Jul 9, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

No one hates you. Relax and embrace your issues as things

to improve upon.

"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
Apple has a new anti-sexting feature. Brett Favre, you going to want to get the Android!

by texascowpunk on Jul 9, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL You don't get my humor.

"Too many of us look at Americans as dollar chasers. This is a cruel libel, even if it is reiterated thoughtlessly by the Americans themselves.""Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of truth and knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the Gods.""Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe.""The most incomprehensible thing about the world is it is comprehensible.""Peace can not be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." - Albert Einstein - "pm striker king"- WZB. Mosul's Blog

by PotM on Jul 9, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Perhaps it was a poor attempt?

"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
Apple has a new anti-sexting feature. Brett Favre, you going to want to get the Android!

by texascowpunk on Jul 9, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, you don't get my sarcasm

"Too many of us look at Americans as dollar chasers. This is a cruel libel, even if it is reiterated thoughtlessly by the Americans themselves.""Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of truth and knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the Gods.""Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe.""The most incomprehensible thing about the world is it is comprehensible.""Peace can not be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." - Albert Einstein - "pm striker king"- WZB. Mosul's Blog

by PotM on Jul 9, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

It sucked.

"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
Apple has a new anti-sexting feature. Brett Favre, you going to want to get the Android!

by texascowpunk on Jul 9, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

"Too many of us look at Americans as dollar chasers. This is a cruel libel, even if it is reiterated thoughtlessly by the Americans themselves.""Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of truth and knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the Gods.""Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe.""The most incomprehensible thing about the world is it is comprehensible.""Peace can not be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." - Albert Einstein - "pm striker king"- WZB. Mosul's Blog

by PotM on Jul 9, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pot if he got it any more, hed be "infected" with the German measels!

wopper "the king" computer
We often look rite past the positive's cuz the negative's-r-so hard they dominate!

by wild zion beaver on Jul 9, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

LMAO

"Too many of us look at Americans as dollar chasers. This is a cruel libel, even if it is reiterated thoughtlessly by the Americans themselves.""Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of truth and knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the Gods.""Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe.""The most incomprehensible thing about the world is it is comprehensible.""Peace can not be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." - Albert Einstein - "pm striker king"- WZB. Mosul's Blog

by PotM on Jul 9, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nobody ever responds at length to Beaver's comments anymore...

I think his avatar is distracting everyone.

- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.

by Finhead83 on Jul 11, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

TCP does at times.

"Too many of us look at Americans as dollar chasers. This is a cruel libel, even if it is reiterated thoughtlessly by the Americans themselves.""Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of truth and knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the Gods.""Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe.""The most incomprehensible thing about the world is it is comprehensible.""Peace can not be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." - Albert Einstein - "pm striker king"- WZB. Mosul's Blog

by PotM on Jul 11, 2011 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

When I know where he is going with something.

"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
Apple has a new anti-sexting feature. Brett Favre, you going to want to get the Android!

by texascowpunk on Jul 11, 2011 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good'ol beave cums, back when "season starts" trust me!

wopper "the king" computer
We often look rite past the positive's cuz the negative's-r-so hard they dominate!

by wild zion beaver on Jul 11, 2011 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its funny,after the post Matty did on keep/cut Vernon Carey

I took a look at the free agent choices and these two were the ones that stood out. Though im leaning a little more on Clady myself. One look at Atlantas run game will tell you why. The front office is banking on Daniel Thomas being a first year stud,Clady provides good insurance on getting the front office that wish.

As for your idea that Incognito will wind up the starting Center…I’m just not buying it. I think Incognito will start at RG,and Sparano’s new toy will get the nod at Center. He has been working out with his brother in Pittsburgh,I dont think he’s going to do half as bad as people think he is.

Tight end. I still think we end up with Kevin Boss. I dont know why people are so dead set against this move. Bo Scaife has a case of the ups and downs. I just dont feel right with this move.

QB. All I know is we wont sign Brett Farve. Sparanos wife handles the cheerleaders,i doubt she wants to counsel any of them on getting over peen pics sent by mr retirement himself. Id really like us to sign a dual threat like Troy Smith here.

RB. We will get a veteran speed back,just no one weve heard or thought of yet. I really think this will be the area we see that yearly suprise we’ve all gotten used to.

by dolphinfan4lyfe on Jul 7, 2011 1:49 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I dont think NYG will let Boss walk

The Titans have Jared Cook developing into a good player so they are less likely to re-sign Scaife

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Jul 7, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jared Cook is a stud.....

He was hurt most of last season but i watched him play a ton (i live in South Carolina) and he is a Tight End with speed that is unbelievable….just look at his combine numbers…i was pissed that we didn’t draft him cause i think he went in the 4th round…

by scbrandon on Jul 8, 2011 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah sounds like us

this Housler went in the 3rd and Virgil Green went in the 7th

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Jul 8, 2011 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great Effort

Few descrimencys

Laces out!
Editor of the Wildcat Weekly after every Victory
-2008 AFC East Champions-
BRANDON MARSHALL- FUTURE MIAMI HOF WR!!!!!

by BSerious72 on Jul 7, 2011 1:53 AM EDT reply actions  

sorry didn't mean to post that... let me elaborate

1.) I’m not going to be devestated with Henne starting week 1. However, he does need to EARN that spot and healthy competition never hurt. If you are in the WIN NOW mentality that most of us you understand this position and don’t think anyone’s job is safe. If Henne regresses I do not think he deserves to lead our offense on the field. PERIOD. I would want to go after Orton, because he’s fricken good, but it’s unlikely. Look for a vet like Bulger to come in and be nothing more of a security blanket in case Henne sucks it up.

2.) I think we will absolutely sign atleast one VET RB if both Ricky and Ronnie leave. I do believe we cut ties with them though, and even though the RB position might not be as important as it used to be, you are giving 2 unproven rookies alot of credit to carry the load on their own. Don’t see that happening. Like Devine, but we still need a guy to come in and compete with Thomas…. if we don’t get Deangelo I think Bradshaw is a good fit here.

3.) Gates will see the field but he won’t beat out Hartline… yet. Unless Hartline is plagued by injury he will still hold the 2/3 spot pending if we run Bess out of the slot. Which we should. I do prefer Moore over Wallace as well, he’s got more speed. Look for Gates to compete immediately with Moore for the spot and earn his way up to #2 hopefully.

4.) Like everything you did with TE I’ll be happy with this.

5.) Also I think our RT is our biggest liability on our line but I don’t think we are ready to part ways with Carey, yet. I would be happy with your method but I still think we are stuck with Carey for one more year until we groom his replacement in the draft or trade for a stud. Let’s hope Carey regains his 2009 form. If he does we are looking at the best tackle duo in football and a SOLID line.

Laces out!
Editor of the Wildcat Weekly after every Victory
-2008 AFC East Champions-
BRANDON MARSHALL- FUTURE MIAMI HOF WR!!!!!

by BSerious72 on Jul 7, 2011 2:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

overall good job though! lets hope the lockout lifts this week!

Laces out!
Editor of the Wildcat Weekly after every Victory
-2008 AFC East Champions-
BRANDON MARSHALL- FUTURE MIAMI HOF WR!!!!!

by BSerious72 on Jul 7, 2011 2:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree on Hartline. His position and place on this team are secure.

"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
Apple has a new anti-sexting feature. Brett Favre, you going to want to get the Android!

by texascowpunk on Jul 7, 2011 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not totally convinced but I am also pretty sure he makes the team

I just dont see how Hartline helps open things up for other WR’s ala Gates

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Jul 7, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

He had a different skill set.

"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
Apple has a new anti-sexting feature. Brett Favre, you going to want to get the Android!

by texascowpunk on Jul 7, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

this^

"Too many of us look at Americans as dollar chasers. This is a cruel libel, even if it is reiterated thoughtlessly by the Americans themselves.""Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of truth and knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the Gods.""Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe.""The most incomprehensible thing about the world is it is comprehensible.""Peace can not be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." - Albert Einstein - "pm striker king"- WZB. Mosul's Blog

by PotM on Jul 7, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

That skill set isnt as valuable to this team as Gates

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Jul 7, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well one is a known skill set vs an assumed skill set.

No one knows what Gates brings at this level until we see it.

"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
Apple has a new anti-sexting feature. Brett Favre, you going to want to get the Android!

by texascowpunk on Jul 7, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think we can safely assume he will be a big play threat

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Jul 7, 2011 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am not saying he will not but that is said about plenty of guys every

off season that in the end accomplish little if anything at this level. We shall see………..

"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
Apple has a new anti-sexting feature. Brett Favre, you going to want to get the Android!

by texascowpunk on Jul 7, 2011 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

We were accused of shopping the putty front offic get hot !

wopper "the king" computer
We often look rite past the positive's cuz the negative's-r-so hard they dominate!

by wild zion beaver on Jul 7, 2011 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just think we can afford to pay Carey anymore for what he brings to the table

I’d rather give that money to a young talented free agent who still has some upside. Unfortunately I dont see the Phins being able to keep Carey and sign a Yanda or Clabo

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Jul 7, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dont want Orton because I think he'll just be a stop gap measure

He’ll probably go 8-8 or 9-7 every year with this team and we wont be in position to drastically improve our team in the draft (getting a QB)

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Jul 7, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would love this. I don’t agree with you 100% on every said here but this would be a dream list because of Devine and Yanda. I think you underestimated Fasano as a pass catching TE. Regardless, Bo would be a great addition and clay would likely be the #3.

Kacy Rodgers Our D-Line Coach. Got to give him some credit.
Rusty Smith! (Titans future qb)
Play to win

by 54 on Jul 7, 2011 3:03 AM EDT reply actions  

He's a decent safety option, but is no seam busting TE like we need.

This is what makes the Clay pick exciting, he can come in on passing situations to get deep in the middle of the field. Last year that hurt us the most.

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by PotM on Jul 7, 2011 3:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

in the passing game.

"Too many of us look at Americans as dollar chasers. This is a cruel libel, even if it is reiterated thoughtlessly by the Americans themselves.""Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of truth and knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the Gods.""Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe.""The most incomprehensible thing about the world is it is comprehensible.""Peace can not be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." - Albert Einstein - "pm striker king"- WZB. Mosul's Blog

by PotM on Jul 7, 2011 3:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

It hurt us because we didnt have anybody on the team that could stretch the field

Once again I am betting on the threat of Ed Gates opening up the field for others

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Jul 7, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Clay doesn't make me excited

He was a 6th round pick for a reason and I think the reason is he’s a developmental player. I highly doubt he would get significant time on the flied. Hopefully one day he would be that stud everyone think he will be this year.

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by 54 on Jul 7, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah 6th rd picks arent by any means locks to make the team which is why I have him on the PS

but of course I also have an UDFA making the team ahead of him

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Jul 7, 2011 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Which happens all the time. So it isn’t irrational.

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Rusty Smith! (Titans future qb)
Play to win

by 54 on Jul 7, 2011 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

if we can get one undrafted free agent to make the team then i think its a great job by the front office...

Im hoping that Jimmy Daniels (the 7th round pick) moves to free safety and maybe split time with Rashad Jones or just beats him outright…

The thing im most worried about is QB, safety, and offensive line…With the OL we have a ton of talent but if Sparano just keeps moving people around and never lets anyone establish there position then i expect our offense to struggle AGAIN!!!

by scbrandon on Jul 8, 2011 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jimmy Wilson

and I think the FO will try him out a corner first to see if he can play that position

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

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by Souwantmyname on Jul 8, 2011 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

thx man

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by Souwantmyname on Jul 7, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great post but I do not think you can put Tyler Thigpen on the depth chart just yet.

He was tendered but the assumption is that with the new CBA he will actually become a FA. We might still resign him but no one knows for sure.

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by texascowpunk on Jul 7, 2011 9:21 AM EDT reply actions  

Yeah your right but how expensive can he be?

If anything he is very familiar with our personnel and is probably already familiar with some of the offense

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by Souwantmyname on Jul 7, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah it makes sense to me that the Phis resign him but its not a for sure thing.

Just can not put him on the depth chart as he is not a Phin at this point but as a possibility.

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by texascowpunk on Jul 7, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

well nothing in this post is for sure but just what I think will happen and what I'd like to see happen

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by Souwantmyname on Jul 7, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

And to think you were so far up my list for next GM. Sigh.............

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by texascowpunk on Jul 7, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shucks... I let ya down coach

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

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by Souwantmyname on Jul 7, 2011 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL Don't worry. You were never really on that list.

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"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
Apple has a new anti-sexting feature. Brett Favre, you going to want to get the Android!

by texascowpunk on Jul 7, 2011 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

they signed brandstater off the PS only cuz he is not eligible for the PS anymore. so the 3rd spot would be between thigpen or brandstater after they bring in a FA. with TT has more exp. you would think he has the edge. but at 6’5 225 brandstater has the size coaches like.

by warpigs on Jul 8, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thigpen actually has NFL gametime experience

I’d take him over Brandstater any day

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

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by Souwantmyname on Jul 8, 2011 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Assuming that Thigpen is resigned.

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by texascowpunk on Jul 8, 2011 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not as high as you are on Daniel Thomas

I think he’ll be ok – nothing special. He’s young & cheap, so at least he has that going for him. Trying to sign Jake Kirkpatrick is a no-brainer at backup C. Can he play anywhere else on the line though?

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by zeusmith on Jul 7, 2011 1:27 PM EDT reply actions  

He's got okay size to play along the interior line but we wont need him to as long as we retain Garner, Jerry and McQuistan and

the only reason why I think he didnt get drafted is that he didnt participate at the combine.

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

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by Souwantmyname on Jul 7, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

As much as I would love Kirkpatrick

I doubt he signs with Miami after we selected Mike Pouncey as our long term answer at C. He probably has 20+ teams interested in his services, so it would make sense to go to a team that needs a C, has an ageing C, or has a soon-to-be Free Agent C.

Henne is the greatest and the Dolphins will go 14-2 this year and win the SB

by zeusmith on Jul 7, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well if Jake saw any actual video of him playing center then he will have nothing to worrry about

because Mike Pouncey is an awful center.

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

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by Souwantmyname on Jul 7, 2011 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Show me some proof

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

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by Souwantmyname on Jul 8, 2011 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rec'd ! Great POST

Fine work here…
first let me say I totally agree with your TE position evaluation – Saunders should have been taken in the 7th… I am also not very sure that CLAY can be what we need this first year, even though I like him.
LOCKE and DEVINE are both players we should have looked at in the draft (6th or 7th round) Devine is exactly what we need as a scat back with speed !
at OLINE – agree here again – Yanda would be a big upgrade at RT youth wise
and again – King and Kirkpatrick ??? Both should have been drafted by the end…
both could make our roster I think… If King is the guy I remember from the COMBINE I thought he looked great in the drills, but not sure.
AT WR – I would keep Moore over Wallace because he is faster – and we need speed.

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by 62Lou on Jul 7, 2011 2:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Thanks for the rec

Yeah I think were not gonna be too happy with Clay when we actually see him play. The guy just isnt fast enough to get past LB’s to become a real threat as a receiving TE. We had our chance to draft Rob Housler or Virgil Green….

On what I read about King is he pretty new to the position. He went to the Gamecocks as a JUCO DE and converted to OT. I think he has 2 years of actually playing the position of which he started for S.Car. He had the longest arms measured at the combine which among tackles is vital to keep rushers at bay. He still has alot to learn but his best football is ahead of him

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

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by Souwantmyname on Jul 7, 2011 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Housler was my choice too...

I am still mad about that failure… I wanted Housler too…. Really when you look at our draft it was pretty bad – based on what we COULD HAVE TAKEN…

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by 62Lou on Jul 8, 2011 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, he did an excellent job on the post....

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by Alpha6 on Jul 10, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hay hay hay; no one said "Brett Favre" couldn't teach our boy how!

How to win superbowl’s just saying!

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by wild zion beaver on Jul 7, 2011 7:23 PM EDT reply actions  

I mean we took Penne late in his career, accident prown Chaddy?!?

He don’t even need to play just hand him a paycheck!

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by wild zion beaver on Jul 7, 2011 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

The clause in his contract would be NO CELL PHONE...

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by Alpha6 on Jul 10, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

ya thin?

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by wild zion beaver on Jul 11, 2011 2:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

with the lack of training camp how much can the rookies really contribute as a starter.

by warpigs on Jul 8, 2011 4:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Pouncey, and Thomas.

Guess this FO knew what guys to pick in this lockout.

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by PotM on Jul 8, 2011 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

With the lockout it looks more and more likely that Pouncy wont be the starting center this year

Center’s need to know the playbook in order to call out any line adjustments pre-play. Anyone know if he is participating in Henne’s off-season camps

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Jul 8, 2011 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

hes working out with his brother up north....

Im pretty sure he has a playbook though and as soon as this lockout is over he’ll be in Miami…

by scbrandon on Jul 8, 2011 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm sure Henne sent him a playbook

"Too many of us look at Americans as dollar chasers. This is a cruel libel, even if it is reiterated thoughtlessly by the Americans themselves.""Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of truth and knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the Gods.""Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe.""The most incomprehensible thing about the world is it is comprehensible.""Peace can not be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." - Albert Einstein - "pm striker king"- WZB. Mosul's Blog

by PotM on Jul 8, 2011 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Quick question: do we play the Vikings this year?...b ecause they will know our calls

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Jul 8, 2011 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Vikings???/ I meant Steelers

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

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by Souwantmyname on Jul 8, 2011 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

why?

"Too many of us look at Americans as dollar chasers. This is a cruel libel, even if it is reiterated thoughtlessly by the Americans themselves.""Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of truth and knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the Gods.""Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe.""The most incomprehensible thing about the world is it is comprehensible.""Peace can not be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." - Albert Einstein - "pm striker king"- WZB. Mosul's Blog

by PotM on Jul 8, 2011 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

bring in sims-walker

sims-walker would make our WR stable better. at 6’2 214 he would compliment BM better then any WR we have now. i have high hopes for gates but i dont think he will be ready to start at WR. i think he could be awesome as a return man. not sold on hartline, he is not a starter, hes backup at best. wallace and moore are a year into it, but are they ready to start. brooks and pruitt are basically rookies. walker could come right in and start right away. BM, bess and walker sounds like a nice trio at WR.

by warpigs on Jul 9, 2011 12:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Walker doesn't do anything that both Marshall and Bess can do

He be just another possession WR… He’d be a terrible pickup for us imo

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Jul 9, 2011 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just don't believe it

If henne falls on his face… AGAIN, people will still be saying, “Give Henne one more year, give henne one more year.” 4 years in the leageue, 5 years in the league, 6 years in the league… bla, bla, bla just isnt’ enough time for him to “find himself.”

I say, bring in VY, bring in SOMEONE to compete for the starting position.

by JImbo111 on Jul 10, 2011 2:19 PM EDT reply actions  

I wouldn't bringing in Zach Miller

He would give us a proven receiving threat at TE and paired with Fasano, would give us one of the better 2-TE sets in the league.

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by The Earl on Jul 10, 2011 2:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Very well made post!! Rec'd...

"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
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by Alpha6 on Jul 10, 2011 4:24 PM EDT reply actions  

I appreciate it

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

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by Souwantmyname on Jul 10, 2011 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

instead of sazenbaker, I'd rather take the risk and go with DeAndre Brown out of Southern Miss

Even though the kid was injured for a while, he is 6-6 240lbs. and really does have an explosive element to his game – when healthy. He’s not a burner, but is a powerful athlete who can easily shrug off defenders when getting into his routes and possesses the kind of strider speed that is tough to keep pace with.

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by AlejandroN on Jul 11, 2011 11:58 PM EDT reply actions  

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