Keep or Cut? Vernon Carey
by Matty I on Jul 6, 2011 5:00 AM EDT
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PrintOnce the lockout finally does end, the Miami Dolphins will have a couple of interesting decisions to make along the offensive line. The interior line is obviously where most of the focus will be. But I think that it would be unwise to assume that Vernon Carey's roster spot is safe this year.
Vernon Carey, Right Tackle
Why the Dolphins should keep him
Prior to the end of the 2010 season, "Big Vern" has been the model of consistency in Miami since his rookie season in 2004. Prior to being listed as inactive last year against the Jets in week 14, Carey had played in 104 consecutive regular season games dating back to his rookie year - including a streak of 87 consecutive starts.
Just as impressive as his streaks has been his consistent play. Regardless of how successful the team has been, Carey has been as steady an offensive tackle as there is in the game. His versatility is also worth noting. His experience at left tackle is invaluable to this team, who lacks solid depth behind current left tackle Jake Long.
Why the Dolphins should cut him
The obvious reason centers around money, of course. Carey will see his salary jump from $950,000 in 2010 to $4.15 million in 2011 - with his salary escalating to over $5 million in '12. That is a lot of money for an average right tackle.
What? Average? Yes - I said it. Based on the study done by Pro Football Focus, Vernon Carey was the 15th ranked right tackle in 2010 in terms of pass protection. Meanwhile, according to Football Outsiders, the Dolphins ranked 15th in the league in running behind their right tackle. So yes - average is what Carey was in 2010.
Carey also didn't finish 2010. And even though he had started 87 consecutive games, Vernon had been plagued by knee/leg ailments for much of the past few years. Then in December, he finally underwent knee surgery - of which we have no idea the severity as the team never disclosed what exactly was done.
Lydon Murtha, meanwhile, said earlier this offseason that he was told he'd be competing for the starting right tackle job this year. The third year pro would be considerably cheaper than Carey and is about five years younger than the soon to be 30 year old veteran.
While I don't see the Dolphins getting rid of a vet like Carey without having confidence in the player who would replace him, it's not out of the realm of possibility that Carey could get get cut if he doesn't prove to be that much better than Murtha in camp.
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There is aconsistant theme with your keep or cut questions- money! Every time you give reasons to cut you include their salary……..!! I wouldn`t cut someone because they are more expensive than last year- I would cut them if i thought I could improve the team by replacing them – end of !!!!!!
by Christopher Weetman on Jul 6, 2011 5:47 AM EDT reply actions
it is important to consider money...
because of roster room, potential free agent hires, and general value. If we have depth at a position and the starter is pulling in more than they are really worth, you have to make the cut so that you can bring in more depth at other positions.
I think what Matty is providing is as much information as possible to make an educated decision and opinion. Without all of the facts, we would simply be going by how we feel and not what is best for the team.
by Phinphinatic on Jul 6, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
That's why I said cut him....
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
Do you feel confident in Lydon
or would you be looking primarily at FAs to fill the need?
by Phinphinatic on Jul 6, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
... or restructure his contract... which I believe can't be done unless he's cut.
However, yes, I feel there’s a FA the team may target. And Lyndon needs to show up or shut up at camp. If the team really told him that, then he better step up. And if the team told him that, then they see potential.
Just saying
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
… or restructure his contract… which I believe can’t be done unless he’s cut.
If you cut him then it would not be a restructure of the current contract. You can restructure a guys contract at any time just so long as both sides agree. Happens all the time.
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
Apple has a new anti-sexting feature. Brett Favre, you going to want to get the Android!
by texascowpunk on Jul 6, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Ah... so the ploy in cutting a player
is when they don’t agree. The team cuts him, hoping no one picks them up and brings them back at a lower cost.
Ima right?
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
Yeah sometimes. If a team ask the player to do so because he is not living
up to his contract then it seems fair to me. If players feel that its fair to hold out when they are way underpaid then the other should apply.
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
Apple has a new anti-sexting feature. Brett Favre, you going to want to get the Android!
Carey is not going to restructure his contract
In his eyes he is finally coming into his big money contract and he’s earned it over the course of his career. We could say we were getting off cheap these past years but I still think its the right time to part ways.
With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Jul 6, 2011 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah but that's besides the point. I was only answering a question
over if it were possible or not.
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
Apple has a new anti-sexting feature. Brett Favre, you going to want to get the Android!
But its not possible?
Would you willingly give up 3 million dollars when your a couple years from retirement?
With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Jul 6, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
No. But still your arguing a point that was not being made.
I is confused!
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
Apple has a new anti-sexting feature. Brett Favre, you going to want to get the Android!
Me too
I just dont see this happening at all
If you cut him then it would not be a restructure of the current contract. You can restructure a guys contract at any time just so long as both sides agree. Happens all the time.
With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Jul 6, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes I was answering his question as to if it were possible
not as to if he would accept such a thing. Most will not. That’s a whole other subject.
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
Apple has a new anti-sexting feature. Brett Favre, you going to want to get the Android!
All right all right... I thought you were saying if it were possible with him
Of which I say no its not.. We’re clear now
With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Jul 6, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Anything is possible but it is for sure not probable.
Now they could restructure it to lessen the cap blow and even make it easier for them to cut him the the future. Teams managed to pull that one off all the time.
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
Apple has a new anti-sexting feature. Brett Favre, you going to want to get the Android!
So do we know who this free agent QB is gonna be & just how free is gonna be!
wopper "the king" computer
We often look rite past the positive's cuz the negative's-r-so hard they dominate!
by wild zion beaver on Jul 6, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
George Plimton....
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
He's not a people
With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Jul 6, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
No..... this guy...
In 1963, Plimpton attended preseason training with the Detroit Lions of the National Football League as a backup quarterback, and ran a few plays in an intrasquad scrimmage. These events were recalled in his best-known book Paper Lion, which was later adapted into a feature film starring Alan Alda, released in 1968. Plimpton revisited pro football in 1971,17 this time joining the Baltimore Colts and seeing action in an exhibition game against his previous team, the Lions. These experiences served as the basis of another football book, Mad Ducks and Bears
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
NOT Mr Limpit!
Elevator smell different to midget. -Chinese Proverb
Why can't women put on mascara with their mouth closed?
Who owns this shithole? - Will Muny
You don't even know your name, for Christ's sake...
LOL!!
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
Great point.
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
Apple has a new anti-sexting feature. Brett Favre, you going to want to get the Android!
Plimpton played a great part in
“Good Will Hunting!”
Elevator smell different to midget. -Chinese Proverb
Why can't women put on mascara with their mouth closed?
Who owns this shithole? - Will Muny
sumone slap that Dr. please!
wopper "the king" computer
We often look rite past the positive's cuz the negative's-r-so hard they dominate!
by wild zion beaver on Jul 16, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Keep him this year, and cut him next or trade bait!!
TO ACQUIRE KNOWLEDGE; ONE MUST STUDY,TO ACQUIRE WISDOM ONE MUST OBSERVE !!
REMEMBER THE KING AND THE PAWN GO IN THE SAME BOX WHEN THE GAME IS OVER !!!
YOU ARE NOT BORN A WINNER, YOU ARE NOT BORN A LOSER, YOU ARE WHAT YOU MAKE YOURSELF BECOME !!
From what I remember of Lydon is that guy is flat out terrible
Wasnt this the guy that blew a EASY ST’s assignment that caused a blocked FG/Punt for a TD?
With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Jul 6, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes but it's too big a gamble
Let’s say Murtha is looking just as good as Carey and we cut Carey. Then 2 weeks into the season Murtha has a season ending injury. Who do we have that would be a good backup.
Nobody… Because Murtha was the backup. Anyone we got after we cut Carey is a warm body that never got drafted or a free agent nobody else wanted.
Now if we keep Carey one more year. Then it gives us a chance to replace him next offseason and also in case Murtha is a camp monster and regular season dud.
Lyndon Murtha has NEVER looked like a monster
so that’s a best case scenario. I’m not feeling over confident about Carey either but he’s all we got in the mean time
Laces out!
Editor of the Wildcat Weekly after every Victory
-2008 AFC East Champions-
BRANDON MARSHALL- FUTURE MIAMI HOF WR!!!!!
not true...
he dressed as a werewolf for halloween two years back….
by Phinphinatic on Jul 6, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
lol i guessed i missed that
Laces out!
Editor of the Wildcat Weekly after every Victory
-2008 AFC East Champions-
BRANDON MARSHALL- FUTURE MIAMI HOF WR!!!!!
The best was how they got him to howl.....
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
Anyone remember this bust of a PR stunt
With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Jul 6, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think it was a PR stunt as much as something that the coaches
came up with to motivate the players. Its the fans that picked it up and ran with it.
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
Apple has a new anti-sexting feature. Brett Favre, you going to want to get the Android!
Yeah thats right
With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Jul 6, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
O..... M.... G
lol
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
drown the runt!
wopper "the king" computer
We often look rite past the positive's cuz the negative's-r-so hard they dominate!
by wild zion beaver on Jul 6, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Mcquade!
Lone wolf Mcquade!!!!
wopper "the king" computer
We often look rite past the positive's cuz the negative's-r-so hard they dominate!
by wild zion beaver on Jul 16, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
keep him
But I think this would be his last year as a dolphin if he doesn’t improve… I just hope our first round in next year’s draft is not an offensive lineman again.
Our 1st round OLine picks have been prety good though..
Jake was a great pick, and we will have to wait and see about “O’l Planking Pouncey”.
by Phinphinatic on Jul 6, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
I just love it when jokes are kept around... I do.
“O’l Planking Pouncy” is excellent!! “OPP” for short?
LOL
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
What a great nickname
Hopefully i will be down with OPP…Yeah, you know me… Who’s down with OPP?
by Phinphinatic on Jul 6, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
LOL!
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
Yes our offensive line "Guru" HC needs 1st round caliber O-lineman
Something about that doesnt seem right
With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Jul 6, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
How 'bout...
…‘The Plankster’…?
Studies have shown that 23% of all institutionalized mental patients
are capable of living normal lives in a productive society.
The other 77% are Jets fans.
NY Jets fan base: Bringing insanity and inbreeding to your community since 1960.
Back on the Hennewagon. Chuggin' along with no spare...
Z Plankmiester!
Elevator smell different to midget. -Chinese Proverb
Why can't women put on mascara with their mouth closed?
Who owns this shithole? - Will Muny
keep...
I do not want another Berger for Grove fiasco. Getting rid of Grove was pretty much about money and getting younger on the O-line but what ended up happening was a total lack of inside running game!
2010 was like rubbing out an easy one with steel wool and crest toothpaste. . .PAINFUL!
Soon the Matty's will be happening and I will not even get a mention! However, I bring the highest level of conversation to this site...WTF?
by phatfinfan on Jul 6, 2011 5:59 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Well seeing's how Grove didnt get signed by ANYONE once he was cut then there was something going on with Grove medically
The Smiley situation was about money and health issues. Although he was a great pulling G when he healthy. Our team may have been different if we kept Smiley and played Incog’s at center
With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Jul 6, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Ha give him one more year!!
I have never seen a player more consistent than VC, the guy hardly missed any game since drafted until last year. Other than that, if you are going to “improve” the OL. The old guys need to step up or lose their jobs to younger and better guys. I like that Byron Bell guy, he’s 6’5 340lb and was invited to pre-draft screening also David Mimms at 6’8 330 once the lockout is blackout. Man! end this sh am bored outta ma mind.
Have you tried planking?
It’s all the rage lately…
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
It’s all the rage lately…
You forgot-For idiots.
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
Apple has a new anti-sexting feature. Brett Favre, you going to want to get the Android!
by texascowpunk on Jul 6, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
lol... well, that's a given...
Although some had a different take….. rage = tight.
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
Sigh.........
I guess there are no limits to stupidity!
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
Apple has a new anti-sexting feature. Brett Favre, you going to want to get the Android!
by texascowpunk on Jul 6, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
no limits whatsoever...
just read some of the posts here…
by Phinphinatic on Jul 6, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
LOL Yes sir!
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
Apple has a new anti-sexting feature. Brett Favre, you going to want to get the Android!
by texascowpunk on Jul 6, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Cue Alpha
With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Jul 6, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
He has to find something perverse in what you said first but even when
its not there he sometimes manages.
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
Apple has a new anti-sexting feature. Brett Favre, you going to want to get the Android!
He's busy...
He got confused by that picture of a lamp with a penis switch. He took that as a sign that masturbating is good for the brain and makes you smarter…
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
LOL
With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Jul 6, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
You've been doing a little flick of the switch yourself.....
Only there’s no bulb in your lamp.
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
That's because I'm married...
The switch is broken and the bulb is burnt out… That is what marriage is all about.
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
Ah....
… this explains alot…
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
So if you laugh with me, what does tha say of you?
LOL
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
Easy keeper
The fact that Carey was even middle of the pack despite playing nearly the entire season with a knee injury shows he’s not as bad as some others would try to make him out to be. He was one of the best RTs in the league prior to his injuries in fact. The bigger reason to keep him… who would we replace him with? The only suitable replacements would be FAs like Jared Gaither, but they would cost more than Carey’s price tag. If price is an issue, we’re not going to find a better option for less in FA.
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
Gaither has a nasty health issue of his own (back)
He is younger however and may just need time to heal
With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Jul 6, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
15th in the league running behind him? Isn't the fact that he is in the top half good considering our running game was one of the worst last year?
I’ve always thought he was a great run blocker, its pass protection that he needs to be more consistent with. I hope he fully recovers from the injury and can give us a few more good years
Our line was bad enough with him....but
I understand that salary cap wise CAREY is beginning to be a liability. but last year our line play was bad enough with him – how is it better without him ? I DON’T CARE HOW MUCH OF THE OWNERS MONEY WE SPEND – I want a better team to root for ! Vernon is still better that half of the league RT’s !!! PLUS speaking of L. Murtha – I had hopes for him last year – but he WAS TERRIBLE…. He has shown NOTHING to me, to prove that he could take Carey’s job…..nothing…. this is another reason I thought we SHOULD HAVE drafted a Tackle instead of POUNCY…. Of course we need both – BUT Tackle is the higher value position…and there will be a few pretty good GUARDS in FA too !
41 Year FIN FAN
Franchise QB... NOW !!! ...Draft Ryan Mallett ...Draft some Freakin speed for a change. WR & RB speed kills......
agreed
i really wanted to draft a RT this year.. Jah Reid would have been an AWESOME pick, Baltimore got ANOTHER good pick. That way we could have had him fill in for Carey and learn until he was ready to anchor that side.
Laces out!
Editor of the Wildcat Weekly after every Victory
-2008 AFC East Champions-
BRANDON MARSHALL- FUTURE MIAMI HOF WR!!!!!
I'm right there with you on Jah Reid
F’ing Bal.has an awesome GM in Ozzie Newsome. Reid is gonna be another overlooked small school Oline prospect to turn into a perennial Pro Bowl’er
With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Jul 6, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Ozzie pulls it out of his ass like everyone else....
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
Good thing lunch was 3 hrs. ago
With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Jul 6, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Dinner it is!!
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
haha
With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Jul 6, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
You want corn-on-the-cob with that?
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
Nah I just got done pooping all the corn out of my system from the 4th
With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Jul 6, 2011 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions
LMAO!
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
You seem "green"...
Do you pluck and recycle?
Elevator smell different to midget. -Chinese Proverb
Why can't women put on mascara with their mouth closed?
Who owns this shithole? - Will Muny
lmao
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
Baltimore is nasty
honestly whats a weakness on that team? Corners? They drafted probably the most physical rookie corner in the draft.
Laces out!
Editor of the Wildcat Weekly after every Victory
-2008 AFC East Champions-
BRANDON MARSHALL- FUTURE MIAMI HOF WR!!!!!
Keep! No Brainer!
We were 15th running behind RT? Well if we were 22nd in the league overall how were we behind LT and the Interior?
Vernon is in the top half playing injured. He’s been better and can be again.
He has spent the last two years with instability at RG.
Carey gets more than his fair share of pressure on his side as teams scheme to avoid Jake Long on the other.
Totally agree with some of the above posters – stop messing with what works. Carey works. The fact that he’s a competent Left Tackle seals the deal.
Sure we want to bring on an eventual replacement, but they have to prove they’re better first.
Carey gets ALOT of help as well by tight ends and RB's in pass pro
We have the luxury of allowing Jake to go by himself for nearly the entire game
With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Jul 6, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
It's gonna be "ban or not ban" FishNFinz...
Ban for being a smartie…
Or keep so we have someone to pick on…
LOL!
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
I like picking on the dude who hates sarcasm...
He is sooooo smart and stuff..
by Phinphinatic on Jul 6, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
That was Miamimike I think.
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
lol
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
we already did keep or cut at CB...
I believe the player of mention was Benny Sapp….
by Phinphinatic on Jul 6, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
it was....
should have been Will Allen though even he though he just got an extension.
Opps. Thats going to make someone mad.
2008 AFC EAST Champions.
Keep or cut Philip Merling
With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Jul 6, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
What post are you on?
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
I missed the joke
With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Jul 6, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
... LOL!
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
I agree...WTF is up with Merling?
Elevator smell different to midget. -Chinese Proverb
Why can't women put on mascara with their mouth closed?
Who owns this shithole? - Will Muny
He has lost a step...
but is still an above average RT. With an improvement next to him, on the inside, he could look better next season.
In Pat we Trust
"Sorry if everyone thought we were going to go 82-0" - Dwyane Wade
"A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore." - Yogi Berra
I look forward...
to seeing how he rebounds from his injury. I am holding hope that he will be able to be the right side anchor we need to take some heat off of Jake Long (The number Fu$%ing 1 LT in the game thank you very much!).
by Phinphinatic on Jul 6, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Is the improvement a model?
Cause that’s the same logic used for Channing Chowder with Dansby.
How’d that work out?
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
Too much kike Palin
but the Q is R on!
Elevator smell different to midget. -Chinese Proverb
Why can't women put on mascara with their mouth closed?
Who owns this shithole? - Will Muny
OOps...didn't do that on purpose..*like
Elevator smell different to midget. -Chinese Proverb
Why can't women put on mascara with their mouth closed?
Who owns this shithole? - Will Muny
It has been said here, but
i say keep him. We had a bad game plan last year and I don’t personally want to put too much stock in the results. i feel that our team did as well as they did in spite of the terrible game plan. I know, I know, 7-9 isn’t good, but it could have been much worse considering the poor play calling and terrible clock mgmt. Our defense kept us alive and our offensive line did quite well considering the musical chairs Sparano was playing with the line.
Vernon is better than over half the NFL at his position and Lydia is unproven and provides excellent depth behind Vernon. Cutting Vernon would be a mistake in my opinion due to there being no proven, true upgrade on the team.
Maybe there's a FA out there that could be on the team's radar.....
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
there may be,
but I feel like there are other areas of interest that we could look to improve at more.
by Phinphinatic on Jul 6, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Henne?
Damn it!! How does he pop up all the time?
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
Do you not remember how poorly our O-line played last year?
our run game stunk and Henne was so nervous about getting destroyed every play he audibled into alot of max protection which killed our passing game
With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Jul 6, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Max protection....
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
Or...... for the others here....
NOTE: the string is for flossing after you eat…
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
Also max protection....
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
by Alpha6 on Jul 6, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
LMAO
"Too many of us look at Americans as dollar chasers. This is a cruel libel, even if it is reiterated thoughtlessly by the Americans themselves.""Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of truth and knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the Gods.""Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe.""The most incomprehensible thing about the world is it is comprehensible.""Peace can not be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." - Albert Einstein - "pm striker king"- WZB. Mosul's Blog
... and you thought *your* dogs were big...
What is that!!! Pooch-a-saurus?
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
How would you like to pick up after that?!!!!
LOL
Turd-a-saraus…
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
It all depends on free agency
If we can find a better player that can help our run game to that side cut him. If we cant,then we need to find his replacement next year. I thought we would have with Carimi,but still,im happy with who we did get all in all.
In all honesty,the only way id keep is if we pulled a will allen with him,a restructured his contract. The breakdown in pff shows he hasnt even been in the top 3 in our line the last 2 years. He doesnt deserve to be paid like one
by dolphinfan4lyfe on Jul 6, 2011 11:02 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Carimi would have actually been a solid pick at 16... but we took a guard
With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Jul 6, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Keep till someone beats him out.
2011 Super bowl or bust!!!
J-E-S-T-S SUCK, SUCK, SUCK.
I always take life with a grain of salt, plus a slice of lemon, and a shot of tequila
Is this the Henne logic?
(and his name pops up yet again)
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
Or beats him offf....
hmmmm…. cant go into a battle with a loaded gun…right???
by Phinphinatic on Jul 6, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Don't go into a gun fight with a knife. lol...
2011 Super bowl or bust!!!
J-E-S-T-S SUCK, SUCK, SUCK.
I always take life with a grain of salt, plus a slice of lemon, and a shot of tequila
Unless you're Marshall's wife....
Yes, the joke is still alive.
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
Zing!
With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Jul 6, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
or Chuck Norris
With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Jul 6, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
CN is overrated.
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
Apple has a new anti-sexting feature. Brett Favre, you going to want to get the Android!
He heard that
With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Jul 6, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
He does not live far from me so he can stop by and discuss it with me if he so likes.
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
Apple has a new anti-sexting feature. Brett Favre, you going to want to get the Android!
You wouldnt know it even if he did.... OOOOOOOooooooooo
With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Jul 6, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I think I would hear the old man coming.
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
Apple has a new anti-sexting feature. Brett Favre, you going to want to get the Android!
... but you'll never see the left hook....
lol
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
I picture him doing a Zohan foot slap to Tex... and then says,
“smell it, smell it”
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
I have my ways......................
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
Apple has a new anti-sexting feature. Brett Favre, you going to want to get the Android!
If it true..and you do see him
tell him I was at the tournaments back then….
I saw him retire, and in MY opinion…he’s an ass hole for things he said about the guy who made him what he is!!
And I’m not real hot on his persona!
Elevator smell different to midget. -Chinese Proverb
Why can't women put on mascara with their mouth closed?
Who owns this shithole? - Will Muny
At least one lock out has finally ended, however the Miami dolphins need to make major changes to the squad. The question is, should they keep Vernon carey? He is an average player and I think cutting him best for the team.
Halloween World
by nathan.poole87 on Jul 7, 2011 1:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Not only does someone have to beat him out
But we cant promote someone to started and leave a HUGE hole as the backup. Also, whatif he’s great in pre-season and then sucks during the season.
Keep him for one more year then cut him. After we have a chance to get a new backup to groom.
I could definitely see the Dolphins cutting Vernon Carey
Not so much because we have Lydon Murtha, but because we have John Jerry and Nate Garner. Both of these guys could make the switch to right tackle.
However, I think we keep Carey because he still has the ability to be a top RT in the NFL. He had a bad year, yes, and he’s had mounting injuries, but he’s been extremely consistent at a high level for a while.
Hopefully, he can bounce back from his injuries, especially after opting to have surgery. I think he’ll play RT for the Dolphins in 2011 and the coaching staff will look to inject Garner/Murtha/Jerry into the position to see if they can find his replacement. Unless he bounces back in a big way, he’ll probably be gone after the season ends.
I dont see how we could cut him and I agree that we will keep him but.....
I also agree with you that he is a problem. The first concern last season I think was his weight. Weight issues show poor work ethic and motivation which permeates to other facets of ones game and leads to an increase in ones susceptibility to injury. Carey is still a smart player and he knows the position well but his play last season especially as the year moved on his performance was noticably sub-par with speed being the obvious (but not only in my opinion) concern.
However we dont have alot behind him and he is still a talented, consistant and reliable veteran. Im also not a proponent of John Jerry moving to Tackle as some people are so my concern about the Tackle position is probably bigger than so other fans. (However I do think Lydon Murtha is better than many give him credit for.)
2008 AFC EAST Champions.
Are you a politician?
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
It's like you were pleasing both sides....
I dont see how we could cut him and I agree that we will keep him but…..
I also agree with you that he is a problem.
lol
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
because I think that he is a problem.
But I dont think we can afford to cut him. haha.
2008 AFC EAST Champions.
Yes Gubner.....
=)
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
Plank much?
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
Bottom it is!!
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
Oh my............
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
Apple has a new anti-sexting feature. Brett Favre, you going to want to get the Android!
I could see Garner making the switch before Jerry
Garner is about the size of Jake Long and has already played the tackle position in the NFL. He’s proven that he can play just about any position along the line.
I think Carey is still a premier tackle in the game. The RT position doesn’t get a lot of love considering that the more dominant players play on the left side. But he’s been a force on the right side for awhile and I think that the Dolphins will give him this year to prove that he still has what it takes.
Either way, I think that we have a decent amount of depth along the line as it stands right now. I think that the Dolphins will end up bringing in a mid-level free agent to play a “swing man” type role.
by DolfanVince86 on Jul 6, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Carey was ranked 16th against the RTs in the league. That is exactly average.
With his injuries piling up, he is at the edge of a very slippery downward slope.
"Too many of us look at Americans as dollar chasers. This is a cruel libel, even if it is reiterated thoughtlessly by the Americans themselves.""Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of truth and knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the Gods.""Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe.""The most incomprehensible thing about the world is it is comprehensible.""Peace can not be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." - Albert Einstein - "pm striker king"- WZB. Mosul's Blog
Well yeah
He had a bad year in 2010. Relatively speaking, of course. I’m sure more than a few teams (16, to be exact) would have been happy to have Carey on their squad.
But… you’re right. We’re looking for elite, not average. When I called him a premier tackle, i’m speaking of his body of work. Hopefully he can bounce back and prove you wrong, Pot!
by DolfanVince86 on Jul 6, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
He hasn't been healthy over an extended period since before 08.
With him getting older and not being able to stay healthy, it is very unlikely that he proves me wrong. This was the offseason to cut our losses and trade him, but we couldn’t because we have no one to replace him.
Also, it isn’t the average play you have to look at, but we are paying for good to dominate play.
"Too many of us look at Americans as dollar chasers. This is a cruel libel, even if it is reiterated thoughtlessly by the Americans themselves.""Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of truth and knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the Gods.""Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe.""The most incomprehensible thing about the world is it is comprehensible.""Peace can not be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." - Albert Einstein - "pm striker king"- WZB. Mosul's Blog
Has it really been that long?
He couldn’t have been that bad in 2009, when Miami boasted one of the top rushing attacks in the NFL. Not to mention, in 2008 they were pretty solid as well.
I’m just curious as to what you’re basing your statement off of.
by DolfanVince86 on Jul 6, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
His injuries didn't affect his run blocking strength as much as his mobility.
"Too many of us look at Americans as dollar chasers. This is a cruel libel, even if it is reiterated thoughtlessly by the Americans themselves.""Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of truth and knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the Gods.""Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe.""The most incomprehensible thing about the world is it is comprehensible.""Peace can not be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." - Albert Einstein - "pm striker king"- WZB. Mosul's Blog
That has always been the problem with Carey
Once he gets his hands on you your pretty much done try again next time. He has just gotten too big to play tackle. The multiple injuries arent helping matters. He doesnt have the mobility to defend speed rushers OR get to the 2nd level in the run game. He needs to make the move to RG where mobility is of little importance
With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Jul 6, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
People can now beat him around the edge even if he is engaged.
His pass blocking skills have deteriorated and are only getting worse.
"Too many of us look at Americans as dollar chasers. This is a cruel libel, even if it is reiterated thoughtlessly by the Americans themselves.""Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of truth and knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the Gods.""Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe.""The most incomprehensible thing about the world is it is comprehensible.""Peace can not be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." - Albert Einstein - "pm striker king"- WZB. Mosul's Blog
I agree
With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Jul 6, 2011 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I strongly disagree!
I believe Careys problems were mainly “mental”. With the FO getting re-arrainged…. with yellowfins dissapearance… just being two. There were a TON of “behind the scene” distractions last year. What do you do if you cannot focus?
He is still a force however, and IMO, his contract needs to be re-worked…[however].
Elevator smell different to midget. -Chinese Proverb
Why can't women put on mascara with their mouth closed?
Who owns this shithole? - Will Muny
mental? He is the oldest person on our Offense, if he can't focus;
he never will be able to.
"Too many of us look at Americans as dollar chasers. This is a cruel libel, even if it is reiterated thoughtlessly by the Americans themselves.""Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of truth and knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the Gods.""Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe.""The most incomprehensible thing about the world is it is comprehensible.""Peace can not be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." - Albert Einstein - "pm striker king"- WZB. Mosul's Blog
He got injured piling up?
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
When you get older, it becomes harder and harder to bounce back from
injuries. Now he has had lingering/nagging injuries for the past three seasons, so he will most likely never fully bounce back even if he can stay healthy (which is unlikely).
"Too many of us look at Americans as dollar chasers. This is a cruel libel, even if it is reiterated thoughtlessly by the Americans themselves.""Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of truth and knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the Gods.""Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe.""The most incomprehensible thing about the world is it is comprehensible.""Peace can not be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." - Albert Einstein - "pm striker king"- WZB. Mosul's Blog
So..... planking is out-of-the-question?
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
Lyndon Murtha is not ready to become a starting RT
until we have a solid replacement we honestly don’t have a good other option. This is why I thought we honestly should have grabbed a RT in this year’s draft.
Laces out!
Editor of the Wildcat Weekly after every Victory
-2008 AFC East Champions-
BRANDON MARSHALL- FUTURE MIAMI HOF WR!!!!!
I think that Garner or Jerry could end up as a franchise RT
Sadly, we will never know how the 2010 season would have panned out had we not lost Garner in preseason. I think that someone with his strength and versatility along the line would have made a huge difference considering the offensive line problems the Dolphins had.
This year, i’m looking for him to have an increased role, maybe even as a starter at one of the guard positions. Either way, I think that one of the two (Garner/Jerry) will end up making a position switch to RT.
by DolfanVince86 on Jul 6, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah i think Jerry would be our best bet...
BUT i feel as if we should atleast try a season where we have him play RT before we cut Carey and try that as a project.
Remember how much positional switching Sparano did last year to our OL and we all saw how that turned out. I have no problem giving people shots at other positions, but we need to be careful with that.
Consistence and Familiarity is the most important aspect of a good
offensive line.
Laces out!
Editor of the Wildcat Weekly after every Victory
-2008 AFC East Champions-
BRANDON MARSHALL- FUTURE MIAMI HOF WR!!!!!
Don't get me wrong
I want Carey to be there in 2011. I think we’re just now starting to have the makings of a solid O-Line again. Long, Incognito, Pouncey, Jerry, Carey. And then a guy like Garner to play a “utility” role. Murtha and McQuistan are average backups (while Murtha might have some upside).
by DolfanVince86 on Jul 6, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Heh heh heh, you said Jerry, Carey...
Wait. That’s wrong.
I was thinking Hara Kiri, which sounds like Harry Carey, which is not close to Jerry Carey…
I gotta stop heroin in the morining!
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
Yeah, you need to cut that shit out.
At least wait until 5pm. That’s what responsible heroin users do.
by DolfanVince86 on Jul 6, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
responsible heroin users
Biggest oxymoron ever?
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Apple has a new anti-sexting feature. Brett Favre, you going to want to get the Android!
keep for this year
We don’t need grove/berger part two…Next year I’m looking to replace his Narcoleptic play.
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Rusty Smith! (Titans future qb)
Play to win
There is no way you came up with that word on your own.... lol
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
I hear rumors that he owns a dictionary.
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
Apple has a new anti-sexting feature. Brett Favre, you going to want to get the Android!
maybe, but that thing is covered with over a decade of dust somewhere.
Kacy Rodgers Our D-Line Coach. Got to give him some credit.
Rusty Smith! (Titans future qb)
Play to win
by 54 on Jul 6, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Your Hustler mags look clean....
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
lmao…So you’re the one who went through my collection!!! IF YOU EVER COME IN MY HOUSE AGAIN I’LL…I’ll, give you an ice cold beer!
Kacy Rodgers Our D-Line Coach. Got to give him some credit.
Rusty Smith! (Titans future qb)
Play to win
by 54 on Jul 6, 2011 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Right on!!
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
I always confuse that word with Necrophilia. So I looked it up to be sure i had the right one lol
Kacy Rodgers Our D-Line Coach. Got to give him some credit.
Rusty Smith! (Titans future qb)
Play to win
by 54 on Jul 6, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
LMAO
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
Necrophilia, narcoleptic...
Either way, playing under of either of those conditions is likely to have a negative influence. The only difference is that if the player is involved with necrophilia, it is likely they will be a social outcast in the locker room…
Though… I would think Brett Favre would be interested in necrophilia as long as the boobs were ok. Don’t ask why I think that…
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
roflmfao!!!
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
LOL
You just gave me an idea for the next “NFL Top Ten” list for NFL Network:
Top Ten Necropheliac Tackles
by DolfanVince86 on Jul 6, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
We need to get a young replacement.
Right now though, we have no one to take his place so keep. Although I would like to address this need early in the next draft.
If Murtha does as good as Carey in the PS (not impossible), then we should start Murtha. Then either get a cheap FA and cut/trade Carey or restructure Carey’s deal.
"Too many of us look at Americans as dollar chasers. This is a cruel libel, even if it is reiterated thoughtlessly by the Americans themselves.""Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of truth and knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the Gods.""Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe.""The most incomprehensible thing about the world is it is comprehensible.""Peace can not be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." - Albert Einstein - "pm striker king"- WZB. Mosul's Blog
by PotM on Jul 6, 2011 2:47 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I agree it isnt impossible.
Unfortunately it is very hard right now to get a good for where Vernon Carey is from a health, weight, condition (e.t.c) standpoint because of the lockout and everything else. (As it is with every player) but Im concerned there are going to be lingering isses.
As for Lydon Murtha I like him. I dont think he gets nearly enough credit for how solid he played near the end of last season.
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by civwarbuff on Jul 6, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
After the injuries Carey has received the past three years (he has had lingering leg injuries constantly since 08)
I don’t think he will ever get back to where he was and if he is in the best shape possible, Murtha might win the battle anyway.
Remember Murtha came here in 09 as an undersized OT project with high upside. Murtha bulked up nicely for the 2010 season and I suspect that he will be even stronger this season. Murtha also was on the PS his first year and then went to #1 OT backup, so he is improving and is working hard at his career.
"Too many of us look at Americans as dollar chasers. This is a cruel libel, even if it is reiterated thoughtlessly by the Americans themselves.""Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of truth and knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the Gods.""Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe.""The most incomprehensible thing about the world is it is comprehensible.""Peace can not be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." - Albert Einstein - "pm striker king"- WZB. Mosul's Blog
by PotM on Jul 6, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Brandon Marshall has been reading these comments...
… and he is quite nervous with all the talk of cut, and cutting.
So he went and got a metal mesh vest…. just in case.
Even “cut a fart” is disturbing to him….
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
haha
"Too many of us look at Americans as dollar chasers. This is a cruel libel, even if it is reiterated thoughtlessly by the Americans themselves.""Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of truth and knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the Gods.""Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe.""The most incomprehensible thing about the world is it is comprehensible.""Peace can not be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." - Albert Einstein - "pm striker king"- WZB. Mosul's Blog
“The world is divided into two kinds of people, those who have tatoos and those who are afraid of people who have tatoos”
Do you know whos qoute that is?
2008 AFC EAST Champions.
I thought it was mine, but appearantly you're gonna correct me.... lol
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
Oh... I thought you knew.
I don’t know who said it. I got it from somewhere, but there was no authur. Otherwise I use their name so as not to take it as my own.
And don’t “whatever man” me. I was kidding, joking, making light that I thought you knew something I didn’t.
For that…. you get the red ass monkey:
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
well that dont come at me with
“I thought it was mine, but apparantly you’re gonna correct me”
2008 AFC EAST Champions.
I was making fun of me more than a direct to you...
I’m usually wrong. In fact, if you ask those that know me near and far, they would tell you what a dumbass I am. They won’t say it to me directly cause they’re decent. But I have pulled more than one boner in my life.
That did not come out right. Shit. I better stop trying to fix it….
But if you find out who said it, I’ll give credit. Maybe it was some tattooed person. I’ll look it up…
(Btw, the Civil War was because of slavery)
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
Im not mad.
and its fine. Some people tell me Im wound too tight too.
“(Btw, the Civil War was because of slavery)
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh………the age old debate.
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There's NO debate!
Elevator smell different to midget. -Chinese Proverb
Why can't women put on mascara with their mouth closed?
Who owns this shithole? - Will Muny
Slavery in thr north, states rights in the south.
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Found it... "Authur Unknown"
Weird name for a person…..
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
Do you agree with why the Civil War was?
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
I had an Army Officer that wanted to debate it with me...
… he said it was because of the economy.
Well, duh. And slavery was the main ingredient to that economy….
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
There were major economic issues.
But the war was not fought over economics.
2008 AFC EAST Champions.
At a sight called The Good Democrat I found (what a name)
The operator (a guy named Daniel) made a post about the origins of the American Civil War in which he labeled Slavery as the sole cause of the secession crisis. I attacked that premise and tried to show how the institution of slavery played into so many other issues. However Im not a Lost Causer by any means.
2008 AFC EAST Champions.
Cool...
Do you feel that the unionization helped those economic issues, that had the tri-state area remained separate they would not have recovered?
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
I dont really understand the question.
And how it pertains to the Origins of the American Civil War.
2008 AFC EAST Champions.
We need this for a Right Guard...
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
Logan Mankins?
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
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by wild zion beaver on Jul 6, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Eric Green?
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
Can i offer you salt with your can of pickles?!?
wopper "the king" computer
We often look rite past the positive's cuz the negative's-r-so hard they dominate!
by wild zion beaver on Jul 7, 2011 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Dude, Matty you gave us some Niice links man
http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2011/06/13/2010-pass-blocking-efficiency-tackles/
2 points of interest: Marshall Yanda (4th) and Tyson Clabo (6th) rated much higher in PBE than Vernon Carey (15th) Doing so while also tallying 200-250 more snaps against the pass. Oh and both players are UFA. Anyone else thinking upgrade?
With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
good find. I would like to know how they did in run blocking to before i say yes. But if we could find an FA who is better than Cary taking all things into account, I’m for it.
Kacy Rodgers Our D-Line Coach. Got to give him some credit.
Rusty Smith! (Titans future qb)
Play to win
by 54 on Jul 6, 2011 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I dont have that info but I do have the rushing numbers from both teams
The Falcons ran for 1,870 yards and scored 14 tds.
The Ravens ran for 1,831 yds. and 11 tds.
With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Jul 6, 2011 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Ravens rushing surprises me.
"Too many of us look at Americans as dollar chasers. This is a cruel libel, even if it is reiterated thoughtlessly by the Americans themselves.""Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of truth and knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the Gods.""Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe.""The most incomprehensible thing about the world is it is comprehensible.""Peace can not be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." - Albert Einstein - "pm striker king"- WZB. Mosul's Blog
Rice had a quite year while Willis McGahee inexplicably gets carries
With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Jul 6, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I expected more rushing TDs
"Too many of us look at Americans as dollar chasers. This is a cruel libel, even if it is reiterated thoughtlessly by the Americans themselves.""Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of truth and knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the Gods.""Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe.""The most incomprehensible thing about the world is it is comprehensible.""Peace can not be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." - Albert Einstein - "pm striker king"- WZB. Mosul's Blog
I just got an email from my boss that I hadn't completed something...
and he CC’d the three top bosses on it. I responded…
“You didn’t add God to the address.”
(Yeah, I’m in a mood)
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
LMFAO
Because I really believe it’s true!
Elevator smell different to midget. -Chinese Proverb
Why can't women put on mascara with their mouth closed?
Who owns this shithole? - Will Muny
It is...
… and the thing is… I did complete it.
Just didn’t email I had, to some bitch out of the chain of command.
And tomorrow is my eval review with this specimen. (Who gives a rats!)
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
I certainly hope....
that his problems the past few years have been due to injuries and they are the type of injuries that he can recover from and come back full strength. You can’t make the case though that he has been consistent in any aspect of his game aside from being consistently there. He has whiffed on more blocks than any other O-lineman the past 2 years running. I don’t believe he is athletic enough to handle the speed OLBs and 4-3 DEs. I hope that was due to injury, but we will see. I think if someone wants to take him off our hands or we can get an upgrade over him in FA or by trade, we need to go ahead and pull the trigger especially if it is someone that is relatively young and at a decent price. Jake Grove was not the biggest name in FA, but he made everything work for our O-line when he was there. If we can just get Chad Henne to take the next step that everyone was hoping he would take last year, we will be solid for years then.
"And my head I'd be scratchin' While my thoughts were busy hatchin'
If I only had a brain" --Henning
"Just because I'm presumin' That I could be a human, If I only had a heart" --Henne
"But I could show my prowess, be a lion not a mou-ess
If I only had the nerve."--Sparano
Did I just hear Chad Henne please answer line 9?
We have very valuable players on the bubble on Our Team that could be packaged nicely for true competition for Henne’s unionized job wink,wink, or for future draft picks. I’ve seen Murtha and he deserves an opportunity. Thank you Vernon Carey however your injuries of late and your due money will only get you parting gifts from this FinFan.
Only... if you answer "line 8"... you godlike genius!
Seriously….Are you a woman who owns a Hotel? What is with the “wink, wink”?
What MAN…says “wink, wink”?
Therefore, I am trying to figure what woman you are…here on our cherished site.
Where are you located, Ozkar?
Elevator smell different to midget. -Chinese Proverb
Why can't women put on mascara with their mouth closed?
Who owns this shithole? - Will Muny
lmfao...
“if you know what I mean”
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
I say dump him.
He had a less then average season last year. I cannot count the times I was waying WTF? when he screwed up. he just did not play well all last season for the most part.
Henne needs to step up
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i wouldnt cut him yet.
i would not cut him until i have a solid starter to take over. there are about 4 players that can compete for the position. lyndon murtha 6’7 315 great size, matt kopa 6’6 303 little light but could beef up, james marten 6’8 310 good size, nate garner 6’7 325 perfect size for RT. all of these players have the size, but do they have the skills to man the position. its careys job to lose. he had surgery to fix his knee, how good did he do rehabing it. did he take advantage of the offseason to get into football shape. hes listed at 6’5 340, if he comes into camp at 340 then were probably going to get more of the same. regardless its time to start grooming his replacement. IMO.
Keep him for one year and trade him away next offseason
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Need a reason for a change.
Need a reason to explain.
So turn it on again.
Don't change your mind.
You're wasting light.
This could be the next cumback kid story of the year!
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