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Dolphins' Wednesday Recap

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The Miami Dolphins entered the offseason fray on Wednesday, agreeing to terms with two free agents, and closing in on the trade deal we are all holding our breath for.  

The Dolphins resigned defensive end Tony McDaniel to a two-year, $6 million deal, adding even more depth to the Dolphins front seven.

Miami also added linebacker Jason Trusnik, agreeing to a two year deal.  Trusnik, a special teams standout, had 24 tackles for the Cleveland Browns last year, and had a career high 56 tackles and 2.5 sacks for the Browns in 2009.  The three years before that, Trusnik played for the Jets.

But the big news was on the trade front.  Miami closed in on a deal for the Denver Broncos quarterback, Kyle Orton. At about 3:30 pm EDT, it was even reported that the trade was close, and could be completed within six hours.  As we all know, that timeline has been exceeded.  But, that doesn't mean the trade is dead.

The asking price has also changed.  Originally, it was thought that the Broncos were looking for a third round draft choice, possibly with the ability for that pick to become a second rounder depending on Orton's play.  However, during the day, it was rumored that the Broncos were coveting Dolphins' defensive linemen Kendall Langford or Randy Starks.  It's believed that Langford is the preferred option, as the Broncos look to shed salary.

Star-divide

Meanwhile, Miami was also worrying about salary.  Specifically, Orton's.  Kyle's scheduled to earn $8.8 million in 2011.  If the Dolphins take on that salary, they hamper themselves in the free agent market, eating a large chunk of their available space under the $120 million salary cap.  But, if the Dolphins rework the quarterback's contract to lower his salary, they will be adding multiple years to the deal.  The question becomes, do they want to do that, and for how many years.

But, Orton wasn't the only fish the Dolphins were after on Friday.  The running back position was a focus as well.  Deangelo Williams cashed in in Carolina, agreeing to a 5-year, $42 million deal.  Then, the immediate report became that the Dolphins were near a deal with Ahmad Bradshaw.  However, the reports then backed away from that, with Bradshaw looking more likely to resign in New York with the Giants.

Whether it's Bradshaw wanting to go back to New York, or Miami deciding he does not fit with the franchise, it quickly became clear that the Dolphins were backing out of the Bradshaw sweepstakes.  ESPN's John Clayton (who, by the way joined Twitter Wednesday, and went from 0 to 90,000+ followers - @ClaytonESPN) began reporting that the Dolphins new running back target is none other than Ronnie Brown.

Whatever happens today, look for the Dolphins to work to finalize the running back free agent and the Orton deal before the start of training camp, as well as get the rookies all signed.  With the Dolphins reporting to camp tomorrow, and the first practice taking place Friday, it's key for Miami to get all these deals done as quickly as possible and get everyone into camp.

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hhmmmm

interesting :D

...yay
...I'm drunk and pessimistic
i hate cam newton.
***on the bandwagon for give more weapons for henne, let's see if he performs then***

by naf snihplod on Jul 28, 2011 5:24 AM EDT reply actions  

Ditto.

A 3rd seemed like a reasonable price. A 2nd — absolutely not. And no Starks or Langford.

Puzzled.

by urbino on Jul 28, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd give up Merling

But Keep Starks and Langford

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by Patssuck456 on Jul 28, 2011 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Merling and a 4th, yes.

Merling and a 3rd? I dunno. Maybe.

Puzzled.

by urbino on Jul 28, 2011 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

you are right

as of 2:00 am reggie bush has been traded to the fins, contingent on restructuring his contract. sweet deal for us. guess it wont be ronnie anymore.

by smokinjoe69 on Jul 28, 2011 6:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

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by wild zion beaver on Jul 28, 2011 7:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

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by Flip-her on Jul 28, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

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by wild zion beaver on Jul 28, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

put me in a speedo and the girls will indeed run

unfortunately, the other way. lol

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by Flip-her on Jul 28, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

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by wild zion beaver on Jul 30, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

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by E_Dove on Jul 28, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sup E_Dove where you been hidden!

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by wild zion beaver on Jul 30, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

It isn't official

Miami and New Orleans has agreed to a trade, but the Dolphins are still negotiating with Bush on a new contract. If Bush and Miami fail to negotiate a contract, the trade won’t happen. I think this is one move that will go through though. I’m hoping this is trade is no higher than a 5th round pick…

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by Finhead83 on Jul 28, 2011 8:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

nope not a done deal as i said contract must be a re-do

however i saw an interview with bush last week and he knows, and agreed that he would have to restructure his contract wherever he went. what the numbers would be who knows but i see this getting done.

by smokinjoe69 on Jul 28, 2011 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Now it is

Reggie Bush agreed on a 2 year deal. Now I’m hearing all he has to do is fly to Miami to sign. That is one down.

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by Finhead83 on Jul 28, 2011 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Read the article ....

I think we are going to make it happen….

"And my head I'd be scratchin' While my thoughts were busy hatchin'
If I only had a brain" --Henning
"Just because I'm presumin' That I could be a human, If I only had a heart" --Henne
"But I could show my prowess, be a lion not a mou-ess
If I only had the nerve."--Sparano

by Jason Scott_90 on Jul 28, 2011 6:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lol u read the article

He can still decide on fixing his contact and taking less money to stay with the saints

by HeatPhinat1c on Jul 28, 2011 6:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

secreatly you R a saints fan?

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by wild zion beaver on Jul 28, 2011 7:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not too excited about trading Starks or Langford...

I can see them trading one of their DL since Tony McDanield just re-signed but I’d rather trade Merling .. or instead of trading for Bush with the saints they should’ve tried to ask about Moreno and Orton since there have been reports that Denver doesn’t like him (Moreno), but that’s just my opinion.

by thewildcat23 on Jul 28, 2011 6:23 AM EDT reply actions  

On the slyah, they like "Moreno" it's all a visious ruemmer!

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by wild zion beaver on Jul 28, 2011 7:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have not been hearing about Langford to Denver...

Everything I’ve heard and seen says Starks and Merling are the ones of possibly being moved. Because of Langford’s young age and high ceiling, I don’t think Miami will move him easily.

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by Finhead83 on Jul 28, 2011 8:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Merling is the only one I'm willing to give up.

Starks is a monster and he better stay here.

Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!

by Dave.Phuller on Jul 28, 2011 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

We have another monster in Odrick.

McD is getting paid too much money to sit around, he needs to be the first DE in rotation. MErling also needs to see snaps in passing situations.

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by PotM on Jul 28, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

i cant wait to see what Odrick is made of

I was so psyched last year to see what he could do for us. I hope that he doesn’t turn out to be a lame duck with a glass body.

by Phinphinatic on Jul 28, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, BUF did double team him........

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by PotM on Jul 28, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

a buffalo double teamed odrick

that sounds like a sexy time. pouncey should plank on him.

by Phinphinatic on Jul 28, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

lol

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by Flip-her on Jul 28, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

No Starks, no how.

He’s the best DE we’ve got, and the best all-around DL. Orton just flat isn’t worth that and a draft pick.

Puzzled.

by urbino on Jul 28, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Orton isn't worth Starks.

Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!

by Dave.Phuller on Jul 28, 2011 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm a Starks fan.

And I think a lot of folks are overrating Orton. But a straight-up one-for-one trade, I’d have to think about that one, given the positions they play.

My strong preference, though, would still be a 3rd, or Merling and a 4th. Anything more than that and I’m out.

Puzzled.

by urbino on Jul 28, 2011 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

No Orton yet...geez

gotta make the deal happen today.

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by Kdog92 on Jul 28, 2011 6:27 AM EDT reply actions  

aint gunna be no Orton

IMO, the real deal should be from the draft, with a good inexpensive ‘patch’ like Bulger in there for insurance.

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by Flip-her on Jul 28, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's not that Orton isn't good

If you compare

                  Games – Pass % – Yds Ave – TD – Rating

Orton 80 58% 6.5 71 87.5

Bulger 154 62.% 7.2 122 84.4

Henne 2 61% 6.6 27 75

IMO given the new OC, OL, RB, WR that Henne needs a year… [and of coarse it has to be the worse pre-season in over 2 decades for him to prove himself]. Bulger will be less money, great mentor, perfect insurance, and if Henne fails we have a few nice QB’s in the draft!

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by Flip-her on Jul 28, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

TD ratio more important

Kacy Rodgers! (Our D-Line Coach) Got to give him some credit.
Rusty Smith! (Titans future qb)
Play to win

by 54 on Jul 28, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ratio to what?

More important than what? Come on man…Im on drugs!

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by Flip-her on Jul 28, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

QB rating already tells you that though

"Too many of us look at Americans as dollar chasers. This is a cruel libel, even if it is reiterated thoughtlessly by the Americans themselves.""Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of truth and knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the Gods.""Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe.""The most incomprehensible thing about the world is it is comprehensible.""Peace can not be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." - Albert Einstein - "pm striker king"- WZB. Mosul's Blog

by PotM on Jul 28, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

QB rating already tells you that though

"Too many of us look at Americans as dollar chasers. This is a cruel libel, even if it is reiterated thoughtlessly by the Americans themselves.""Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of truth and knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the Gods.""Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe.""The most incomprehensible thing about the world is it is comprehensible.""Peace can not be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." - Albert Einstein - "pm striker king"- WZB. Mosul's Blog

by PotM on Jul 28, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thats what I thought

The QB rating first 2 years of Vince Young were 59 and 73. Kyle Orton 66.7, 71. Marc Bulger [1st year was 100 but short yr] next 2 full years were 81, 93. But I just walked in and havent seen the news yet.

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by Flip-her on Jul 28, 2011 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow, what a change since yesterday

I liked the thought of Bradshaw in a Dolphins jersey….I’m not sure Bush is that much of an upgrade over Ricky & Ronnie….he seems to me to be more of a hit and miss king of running back…but maybe he’d be a fit. I thought we would have had the QB and RB positions sorted out by now…maybe today…fingers crossed!

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by cordy_1971 on Jul 28, 2011 6:42 AM EDT reply actions  

Reggie bush is a dolphin

seems miami made the trade at 2:00 am reported by fox news. he has to restructure his contract. sweet deal for miami even though hes injury prone the guy is a presence on the field.

by smokinjoe69 on Jul 28, 2011 6:45 AM EDT reply actions  

Nice!

You can never have enough weapons…

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by MightyHal on Jul 28, 2011 6:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

All of a sudden theres a fealing of (Grandure) in the air!

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by wild zion beaver on Jul 28, 2011 7:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

link?

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by Kdog92 on Jul 28, 2011 6:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

no...i'll take patty

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by Flip-her on Jul 28, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

According to profootballtalk...

The dolphins will resume contract negotiation with Bush…

by thewildcat23 on Jul 28, 2011 6:54 AM EDT reply actions  

OMG...Haynesworth to the Patriots...

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by Kdog92 on Jul 28, 2011 7:01 AM EDT reply actions  

for a 5th rounder

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by Kdog92 on Jul 28, 2011 7:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

That is just mean

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by MightyHal on Jul 28, 2011 7:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

wtf, will he play as a DE, cuz they have wilfork at NT

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by AnishB15 on Jul 28, 2011 8:17 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah, this is interesting

I guess the Patriots are going to continue using that hybrid 3-4/4-3 defense. If they stick him at DE in a 3-4, he still won’t be happy. Putting him and Wilfork together as DTs in a 4-3 is the equivalent to Nnamdi and Revis playing together in the same secondary.

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by Finhead83 on Jul 28, 2011 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

but he will be happy to play for billicheck

and to play on a team that is probably the odds on favorite to go to the superbowl. Haynesworth recognizes that he is a fat piece of shit that has very little time left to win a championship and he will produce in New England. Not to mention that the Patriots squeeze every last bit of talent out of their players.

just saying

by Phinphinatic on Jul 28, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

lol FPOS- he kept bichin about the 3-4

now he wants it? FPOS’s keep bouncing to get the SB instead of incentives, I guess.

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by Flip-her on Jul 28, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

he doesnt like 3-4 NT

he is fine with End

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by Jack'sAxe on Jul 28, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

It'll be interesting to watch the battle play out.

The one between the Patriots’ vaunted professionalism and Haynesworth’s utter refusal to grow up.

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by urbino on Jul 28, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

And now, Ochocinco.

Glad we have the men we’ve got!

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by Flip-her on Jul 28, 2011 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

You guys realize

that if we get Orton and Bush…

we can contend for the East this year

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by Kdog92 on Jul 28, 2011 7:14 AM EDT reply actions  

Definately!

I mean that is the point of all of this… Isn’t it?

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by MightyHal on Jul 28, 2011 7:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

disagree...

Lets just pray they use him correctly.. maybe ricky will take a vet minimum and be a solid backup for thomas

by Phins4life2334 on Jul 28, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

we got bush now to back up thomas...

and i believe in this team as much as any one, but we have to compete with the afc east. This division is killer and it will take great coaching and great play from both sides of the ball to take the east.

by Phinphinatic on Jul 28, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

These are exciting times!

I am having a blast watching our front office trying to make this a better team (and I think they are trying)…

Looking forward to another fun filled day and the hustle and bustle of getting good talent for my team! Woot!

Jimbo

by Dolphinator on Jul 28, 2011 7:22 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Good stuff all around...

Really like Langford and Starks, let’s dump Merling! Lazy practicer…….

I’m thinking we cut some guys today. I have a feeling Crowder is gone, Edds and Spitler move up, battle with Dobbins, new LB Trusnik takes Spitlers spot on special teams……

More I think of it, we might keep Carey just to have depth………..

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by Red Dog on Jul 28, 2011 8:17 AM EDT reply actions  

Ya we were going to

win the east when we got brandon Marshall too!! It will take more than those two people at the end of their careers to make us win the east. Be real

by IAphinlifer on Jul 28, 2011 9:02 AM EDT reply actions  

Be real u say,ok i'll bite

We have a top 10 defense,seem to be fixing our special teams at a rapid pace,we went out last year and got us a top five reciever,and they are getting us a new qb,and a burner 3rd down back,we got depth at olb,whos stats wont wow u,but then again I have faith in nolan to figure out a way to use him.

by dolphinfan4lyfe on Jul 28, 2011 10:36 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Its being reported

That Reggie Bush and the Phins have agreed on a 2 year deal

by dolphan63 on Jul 28, 2011 9:17 AM EDT reply actions  

Glad about Bush coming in but

NO TRADE OF STARKS AND/OR LANGFORD!!! I would hate that! Really like both players!

Interesting that the Orton deal hasn’t been done yet….yet I do not blame the FO if they don’t want to give up a third rounder (and certainly not a 2nd), considering (cough cough wink wink) Orton is only supposed to be “competing” with Henne.

Honestly, if Orton is signed (regardless of draft picks given up), Orton MUST start and Henne has no real shot unless Orton goes down. That ain’t competition, folks! Truly, if the FO really believes Henne still has a chance to start and needs competition, then getting Orton is NOT what this FO really ought to do. Or are Ireland and Sparano really that concerned about what the fans think? Or is it Ross? Or the media? (Especially Greg Stoda, who as much said a few days ago that it is either Orton or a last place finish?)

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by lifeimitatesfootball on Jul 28, 2011 10:52 AM EDT reply actions  

That's how I see it. If we trade for Orton, Orton starts, period.

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by BravePhin on Jul 28, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

In other words

the Fins want Orton, just not that badly—and I think that’s a good thing. (Or, are they really thinking of getting Vince Young for nothing???)

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by lifeimitatesfootball on Jul 28, 2011 10:54 AM EDT reply actions  

With the moves we have made so far, its apparent to me that this teams offensive philosophy has changed significantly.

I like the fact that we continue to get players who can serve multiple purposes. I would love to see what Reggie Bush can add to our 3rd down situations.

by mjams on Jul 28, 2011 11:02 AM EDT reply actions  

i spent all day yesterday refreshing and waiting for the Orton move...

got nothing done at work. Cant do that again today! I hope we land Orton. I hope we don’t pay bush more than 3 mil a year (he isnt even worth that IMO). I hope that for out offense’s and team’s sake we get Orton or Vince Young, because this front office has hung out Henne to dry. They have to make a move for morale’s sake. Ireland continues to publicly look for replacements and then doesn’t deliver. What the front office did to Sparano was wrong. What this front office is doing to Henne is wrong. How can we possibly expect these guys to give us their best when we treat them like the step children we never wanted.

by Phinphinatic on Jul 28, 2011 11:06 AM EDT reply actions  

i disagree. i think that the Dolphins plan on having a competition for starting QB. That is one reason for the delay in this deal.

The Phins don’t want to overpay for somebody that isn’t a definite upgrade and the Broncos don’t want to lose Orton for nothing. The Phins are playing it smart right now. Let Elway get his head out of his butt. In the meantime, pursue other deals with other teams.

by mjams on Jul 28, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Giving up Langford or Starks flips this from a steal

to a much better deal in Denver’s favor. It’d suck to part with one of them, but still…Orton will be worth it.

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by BravePhin on Jul 28, 2011 11:42 AM EDT reply actions  

picks

They should be giving us picks for that trade.

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by Phintastic on Jul 28, 2011 11:51 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I agree. Trading players really ruins the effect.

Dan Marino (13) and Steve Nash (13) will go down in history as being the greatest passers to never win the last game of the season.

by BravePhin on Jul 28, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

QB is worht more than a DE.

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by PotM on Jul 28, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes

but both of those guys can start on any team, Orton maybe not so. Plus i’m liking their salaries more than Orton’s.

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by Phintastic on Jul 28, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Orton is a quality starting QB.

Langford and Starks are quality starting DEs. I’d rather have the QB.

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by PotM on Jul 28, 2011 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

but what do you do

if you sign Orton for 3yr/20M and Henne beats him out(miracle maybe)? Thats lots of money sitting on the bench. Then what do you do with Henne next year if he has a career year, sign him to a 5yr/40M? Dont get me wrong, i like having 2 decent guys being able to lead your team, but at what cost?

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by Phintastic on Jul 29, 2011 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Langford or Starks? And a high draft pick??? F that. Give me VY instead. I’ll give Merling and a 4th for Orton. Orton isn’t a very good QB. He’s decent. Yes he’s better than what we have but he isn’t worth that, especially when VY is free.

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by 54 on Jul 28, 2011 11:59 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

As bad as the line was last year AND

the mistakes Henne made, VY QB rating was lower than Henne in his first two years. [So was Ortons]

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by Flip-her on Jul 28, 2011 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd say Starks and a 5th for Orton. The Broncos need a DT for a 4-3 and we have too many 3-4 DE's

 Both teams win on this deal. We get a decent QB and the Broncos fill a need with a damn good player when they would end up releasing Orton anyway.

by mjams on Jul 28, 2011 12:51 PM EDT reply actions  

If they would end up releasing Orton, anyway, what makes it a good deal for us?

We give up our best DE for a guy we could’ve gotten for nothing.

Puzzled.

by urbino on Jul 28, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

this....

depending on draft pick positions we swap 3rds give them a 4th or 5th and starks

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by Carl Johnson a.k.a CJ on Jul 28, 2011 12:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Where'd you hear about Trusnik signing

I haven’t seen that at all?

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by BSerious72 on Jul 28, 2011 7:19 PM EDT reply actions  

The only thing I've seen that appears solid

is from the Miami Herald. He’s ‘Meh’ on the line…but I read he’s a beast on Special teams, and we can really use more of that!

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by Flip-her on Jul 28, 2011 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Give up no one

I would give them either a 3rd or 4th thats it. if they want to hang onto him, so be it. Let’s bring Vince in and see where his heads at and try to sign him to a incentive contract for 2 yrs and let him and Henne fight it out. Do not over spend for an average FA QB

by jvw on Jul 28, 2011 9:30 PM EDT reply actions  

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