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2011 NFL Free Agency Preview: Outside Linebackers

Manny Lawson is one potential outside linebacker to keep an eye on in free agency.

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At some point, the NFL lockout is going to end. While that overwhelming sense of optimism that was very present a week ago has since vanished, there is going to be a football season. Before that season, there will be free agency. So it's time to continue on with our look at free agency by examining the market at another position of need for the Miami Dolphins.

Previously we looked at the quarterback and running back position. But now we will turn our attention to the defensive side of the ball. While it's obvious that the offense needs far more attention than the defense in free agency, general manager Jeff Ireland has repeatedly said the team will not simply overlook the needs of the defense.

One of those needs is at outside linebacker - even after Cameron Wake established himself as one of the best pass-rushers in the league and Koa Misi came off of a relatively successful rookie campaign despite having never played the position previously. The Dolphins need to improve their depth at the position - and finding a guy who could be a situational pass-rusher to complement Wake wouldn't be too bad, either.

2011 NFL Free Agency: Outside Linebackers

Manny Lawson
The connections between Lawson and the Dolphins are pretty obvious. Lawson was drafted by the 49ers while Mike Nolan was head coach and spent three years learning how to play outside linebacker in a 3-4 under Nolan. While it's not known for sure what Nolan's thoughts are on Lawson, he's certainly worth monitoring. At 6'5, 240, Lawson has the size and speed to play the position. But he hasn't exactly been an effective pass-rusher, accumulating 15 sacks through his first five years. Truthfully, Lawson is better as a run-stuffer (17.5 tackles for loss in his career, including 13.5 over the least three seasons) and is an above average coverage linebacker. He'd obviously be an upgrade over backups Ike Alama-Francis and Quentin Moses. But his price tag will be a factor.

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Matt Roth
What exactly went down during Roth's final season in Miami before he was released remains a mystery. There's obviously more to the story than just injury issues. Here's what I do know. After his release in 2009, Roth went to Cleveland and was in "beast mode" for those final six games of the year - picking up four sacks to go with 29 tackles. Then in 2010, Roth accumulated 86 tackles, 3.5 sacks, and 3 tackles for loss. But just as with Lawson, pass-rushing is not Roth's strong suit. And the relationship between Tony Sparano/Jeff Ireland and Roth might be too far gone already.

Mathias Kiwanuka
It's rare for a player as talented and versatile as Kiwanuka to hit free agency. But he's coming off of what was thought to be a career-threatening neck injury - meaning he's going to have to sign a below-market deal right off the bat to prove himself. But if he is healthy - and all indications are that he is - Kiwanuka could be a steal for some team. He's played both defensive end and outside linebacker in the Giants' 4-3 defense and has tallied 23.5 sacks and 21 tackles for loss over his first five career seasons - including 4 sacks and 2 tackles for loss in three games last year before suffering the neck injury. If the Dolphins can steal "Kiwi" and sign him to an incentive-laden one year deal worth up to $5 million, it's worth the risk. The upside here is huge.

Antwan Barnes
This is a guy many believe is the type of player that the Dolphins will look to add as depth at outside linebacker. The four year veteran has experience as a rush linebacker and did pick up 4.5 sacks in 11 games last season as a situational pass-rusher in San Diego after being waived by the Eagles in October. This FIU product is one of those low risk, limited reward kind of players this regime likes to take in and develop as back-ups. The upside is there, though. Barnes ran a blistering 4.43 40 yard dash at the Combine back in '07. Perhaps Miami's coaches would be able to coach the kid up and develop him as a pass-rush specialist.

Osi Umenyiora
Alright, so I'm cheating a little bit here. No, Osi is not a free agent. Nor do I expect the Giants to even consider cutting him. But trading him? Now that's an interesting thought. Umenyiora has been quite emphatic about his demands for a new contract. He claims Giants' GM Jerry Reese promised him a new contract. But alas, he's got two years remaining on his deal and is owed $7.05 million in salary over the remaining life of his deal. On the field, Osi has been damn good - recording 32 of his 60.5 career sacks over the last three seasons. At 6'3, 261, he's got the measurables to play outside linebacker. But would he be willing to convert? Would the Giants even trade him? Would the Dolphins be interested?

Jason Taylor
Guess who's name is resurfacing again? I know, we already did this reunion thing with Taylor back in 2009. Then the Dolphins decided to turn their back on him - again - and essentially throw him into the arms of a hated rival. But again a free agent, it's worth mentioning Taylor simply because Bill Parcells is no longer affiliated with the Dolphins. He and Taylor didn't exactly see eye to eye on things. But Tony Sparano and Taylor got along great - the two had mutual respect for one another. Is another return to Miami in the cards for Jason? I don't know. But what I do know is that if Taylor does return to football (and doesn't go to ESPN, though he clearly has the ability to be a solid analyst), he'll be an outstanding veteran situational pass-rusher for some team - likely the Jets.

THE REST
(Some more guys with outside linebacker experience. There are a number of guys who could be potential candidates to convert from 4-3 defensive end to 3-4 outside linebacker.)

Joey Porter
Travis LaBoy
Mike Vrabel
Charlie Anderson


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Lawson and Roth would both be upgrades over Misi,

however, Roth and this FO had a falling out I fear cannot be mended which leaves Lawson.

I would sign him, Misi can learn under this guy who is a real solid SOLB for a 3-4.

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by uncle finster on Jun 29, 2011 7:41 AM EDT reply actions  

Roth probably already has a deal in place with New England anyway....

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by Red Dog on Jun 29, 2011 7:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Roth to NE?

Curious. Why NE?
I’d think he’s off to Dallas.

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by Flip-her on Jun 29, 2011 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

why to stick it to the team of course lol

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by 2madison9 on Jul 2, 2011 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would not call either of them an upgrade over Misi.

Koa Misi was a force against the run in 2010 and he is barely scratching the surface of what he’s capable of in terms of pass rush. All i’ve heard about is his work ethic and motor and the fact that he’s training to improve his pass rush in the NFL. I’m excited about his potential.

by DolfanVince86 on Jun 29, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

^^^This^^^

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by Flip-her on Jun 29, 2011 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I disagree,

Misi became OK against the run as the season wore on but he was never a force, and of his 4.5 sacks 3 were coverage sacks.

Lawson is easily an upgrade, and Roth is better than him.

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by uncle finster on Jun 30, 2011 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm with finster on this one

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

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by Souwantmyname on Jun 30, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think we are looking for a WOLB because I think Wake prefers the SOLB spot. To me it seems we can’t improve on Misi in FA. But we could upgrade our back ups. The only person that might be better than Misi is Osi. But the giants wont let him go and if they did he’s no sure thing. Because he would be an experiment since he’s a 4-3 guy. Misi had a good rookie year and I’m sure he could build off it.

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by 54 on Jun 29, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I disagree,

Misi became OK against the run as the season wore on but he was never a force, and of his 4.5 sacks 3 were coverage sacks.

Lawson is easily an upgrade, and Roth is better than him.

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by uncle finster on Jun 30, 2011 8:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry, wrong person reply.

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by uncle finster on Jun 30, 2011 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

no not at all

misi is getting better and roth was let go for a reason and if lawson couldnt establish himself as a rusher with nolan before his price tag now wouldnt warrant giving it to him and not letting misi grow and get better for cheaper. besides theres bigger problems id rather have a good backup defensive tackle and someone to push crowder if we spend on the d

by Chris Schlitz on Jun 30, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought Taylor wants to be a talking head, now?

I will agree to disagree with you - as long as you understand that I'm right.

by Tunaflipper on Jun 29, 2011 7:55 AM EDT reply actions  

i like the idea of cutting channing crowder

and moving Misi inside next to Dansby. Kiwanuka or Umenyiora, could both excell in Nolans 3-4 scheme.

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by frostyphinfan on Jun 29, 2011 7:57 AM EDT reply actions  

Keep Dobbins over Crowder?

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by 54 on Jun 29, 2011 9:18 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

This ^^^^

It would be awesome to get a nice OLB and move Koa next to Dansby!!!!!!!!!

by DolfanPTY on Jun 29, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

this would make our LB EPIC

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by BSerious72 on Jun 29, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Koa Misi looks like he could have a career like a James Farrior

A big 3-4 ILB that is the tackling machine to Lawrence Timmons playmaker/coverage

Here is a body type comparison and the stats on Farrior show what a real ILB can do in a 3-4. He did this at 35, how old is Crowder?
http://espn.go.com/nfl/player//id/13287/koa-misi
/id/1219/james-farrior" target="_blank">http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/1219/james-farrior

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

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by Souwantmyname on Jun 29, 2011 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Farrior

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/1219/james-farrior

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

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by Souwantmyname on Jun 29, 2011 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

So there are no pass rush specialist in FA. Going off the stats none seem to be a upgrade over.

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by 54 on Jun 29, 2011 9:17 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

…over Misi.

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by 54 on Jun 29, 2011 9:18 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Thats not true at all

We need to take into account that Misi was 1 0n 1 all year because of Wake and only registered 4.5 sacks. Lawson was the best pass rush threat on SF and probably got alot of attention from oppsosing teams as such

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

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by Souwantmyname on Jun 29, 2011 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

No he wasn't

Patrick Willis was more of a threat even from the ILB position. Justin Smith was also a bigger pass rushing threat. Even Travis LaBoy and Ahmad Brooks looked like better pass rushers. Lawson has a bunch of talent, but he’s had 5 years to show it and he has failed to do so. He is what I would consider an average starter. I don’t see him being immediately better than Misi.

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by Finhead83 on Jun 30, 2011 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

OLB

Misi is fine as the starter, but depth isn’t bad at all. I wouldn’t mind Lawson, but I think some team will pay him starter’s money thinking he can be their full-time OLB. I’d rather Miami go for depth and I do like the Barnes.

Thomas Davis is another player I like at OLB, but I think there will be some competition for him and it may drive his price high. Because of Davis’ athletic abilities though, I think he has the potential to wreak havoc when matched up with Wake. This is assuming he beats Misi for the job of course.

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by Finhead83 on Jun 29, 2011 9:28 AM EDT reply actions  

Davis is a strict OLB for a 4-3

Guy was a safety in college. No way he has the strength to hold up as a 3-4 OLB

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by Souwantmyname on Jun 29, 2011 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually

I think Davis has shown pretty good strength. He was a safety, but he is athletically gifted and has the ability to move all over the field. With both his quickness (ran an official 4.6 40 and has run it under that time as well) matched with Wake’s, I think Miami can show a lot of different looks. I’m not saying I expect him to be a starter at day 1 or at all, but with a relatively cheap contract, I think he is worth the shot. After all, the Panthers still want Davis back even though they are running a 3-4. I guess I’m not the only one thinking Davis may be able to adjust.

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by Finhead83 on Jun 30, 2011 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

They are gonna move him inside next to Jon Beason

Its just not gonna happen at OLB for him in a 3-4.. Do you see him being able to take on tackles in the run game?

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by Souwantmyname on Jun 30, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Davis

I haven’t see na single report indicating the Panthers want Davis to move inside. I am not sure how Davis will be able to take on the run responsibilities of a 3-4 OLB, but like I said earlier, I like him as depth because if he can take on the tackles, he can make a scary combination. If he can’t, then he is a backup who can provide special teams help. It’s not like I’m talking about signing a multi-million dollar 4-3 OLB to come in and start at OLB. I’m thinking an athletically gifted 4-3 OLB, who could cost under $1 mil, could come in and show what he’s got to see if he can compete. Like I said, my only worry is competition to sign Davis because if there is much competition, I don’t want Miami spending a lot of money on a player I don’t know will work.

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by Finhead83 on Jun 30, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

The thing that I am thinking with Davis

Is that the Dolphins could use him as a situational pass rusher. They could also use him to cover tight ends. He could provide some versatility in our linebacking corps.

by DolfanVince86 on Jun 30, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

3-4 SOLB is more like a DE,

Davis just isn’t that guy.

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by uncle finster on Jun 30, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Travis LaBoy !!!

tHIS GUY WAS GOOD FOR THE 49ERS LAST YEAR. WE ACTUALLY BROUGHT HIM IN FOR WORKOUT BUT DIDN’T SIGN HIM. ITHINK HE WOULD BE A PERFECT COMPLEMENT TO WAKE.

by mohammer on Jun 29, 2011 9:50 AM EDT reply actions  

J Peasey hahahaha

He’s got a good relationship with the dolphins right??? :P

by kabvorka on Jun 29, 2011 9:52 AM EDT reply actions  

joey porter , charlie anderson ,matt roth and jason taylor almost half the the guys that were mentioned have already been let go by this front office.i think kiwanuka is the only real upgrade except for osi who the giants are not going to let gofor ant reasonable price .

by crableg on Jun 29, 2011 10:05 AM EDT reply actions  

Manny Lawson looks like he might become a Patriot.

He seems to fit the prototype they look for.

I don’t mind signing Kiwanuka to a one year deal and seeing what happens. I would like us to snatch JT as well.

Moses hasn’t developed as a pass rush specialist and I think it is time to move on.

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by PotM on Jun 29, 2011 10:47 AM EDT reply actions  

this would be bad news..

Lawson is very good

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by BSerious72 on Jun 29, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dont know how reliable this guy is but from what I seen he had the inside scoop when it came to Marshall and Dansby becoming fins

Neal Driscoll I think it was, stated on his twatter that a inside source straight from the Phins said that Nolan is pushing for us to make a play at Lawson and wants to move Misi inside…now not saying this will happen but just a message of sorts that Nolan wants him apart of of his D and I would not want to make Nolan unhappy I want him to stick around for a couple more seasons.

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by Foy on Jun 29, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Interesting.

I don’t like the idea of moving Misi inside, though. Unnecessary position changes are always risky….

by DolfanVince86 on Jun 29, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I actually think our D looks promising having Edds and Odrick back

I think our issue on D still lays at saftey

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by Foy on Jun 29, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can't wait to see how Rashad will do in his 2nd year.

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by Flip-her on Jun 29, 2011 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Me either loved the pick that was my guy glad we got him

I think he will be a better ss than fs so I think he is the guy to replace Bell when the time comes

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by Foy on Jun 30, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Bell is still the starter then yes I think we do have a problem

Reshad needs to play

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

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by Souwantmyname on Jun 29, 2011 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Misi played alot of 4-3 OLB in college

If anything he played WAAAAY out of position as a 3-4 OLB. Moving him inside is probably a more natural fit to his play style

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

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by Souwantmyname on Jun 29, 2011 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

43 DE to 34 OLB?

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by PotM on Jun 29, 2011 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

If I remember correctly he spent alot more time as an OLB than a DE

I believe on 3rd down or passing situations they would put him at DE

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

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by Souwantmyname on Jun 29, 2011 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, spent some time at OLB and DT.

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by PotM on Jun 29, 2011 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah that doesnt count

a 6’2 243 DT….. Okay

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

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by Souwantmyname on Jun 29, 2011 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

He did play it in college though.

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by PotM on Jun 29, 2011 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Once again a 6'2 DT... only in the Mountain West

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by Souwantmyname on Jun 29, 2011 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

243 lb. ^

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

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by Souwantmyname on Jun 29, 2011 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

He played DT about as much as he did LBer.

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by PotM on Jun 29, 2011 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah cause you have his per play stats on you

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by Souwantmyname on Jun 29, 2011 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, his highlight and lowlights from his rookie post have about the same number.

Makes me think that the rest of the picture fits.

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by PotM on Jun 29, 2011 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

And he's never played inside either

But being that he looked pretty good as a 3-4 OLB in his first year at the position, I think he has a lot of potential. Don’t forget Misi more as a DE on a 4-3 and that translates more to the a 3-4 DE. I don’t think he was a starter as a DT snce 2007. Swapping Misi around each year will turn him into a Jason Allen 2.0.

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by Finhead83 on Jun 30, 2011 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dude you need to drop the number of lines in your sig before Matty sends

you a message.

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by texascowpunk on Jun 30, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

"his twatter" wouldn't that make him a her? or a he-she?

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by PotM on Jun 29, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

twatter,twitty whats the difference lol

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by Foy on Jun 29, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

LMAO

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by Flip-her on Jun 29, 2011 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

MANNY LAWSON?

OMG this would be Christmas Morning, dude is a STUD.

LAWSON DANSBY MISI LAWSON

We could even move Misi inside.

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by BSerious72 on Jun 29, 2011 11:35 AM EDT reply actions  

Are we cloning Lawson once we get him??!?!

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by Souwantmyname on Jun 29, 2011 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

BSerious

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by Flip-her on Jun 29, 2011 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think we go the undrafted free agent route here

With Wake and Misi,it just seems like were looking more for depth than a starter. ALL of these guys would command starter money,which we have,but do not have enough of.

The other option we seem to like is poaching the CFL,this could be the route we take on a number of positions over the years,i just dont see us trying to replace anything we already have

by dolphinfan4lyfe on Jun 29, 2011 11:36 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Thankfully, the Dolphins have flexibility.

Ikaika Alama-Francis will (hopefully) make significant improvements to his game. He was the victim of the inexplicable 12-monkeys virus that took over the Dolphins locker room last season.

If healthy, I can see IAF playing a significant role in 2011 for the Dolphins. And here’s something else to consider:

The Dolphins are already there defensively. Quentin Moses was servicable as a backup, and he’s still young with upside. Why not give him the chance to see some playing time as a backup?

To play devil’s advocate, it would make sense to bring in someone for “insurance”. There would be a significant dropoff in defensive production at the OLB position if Misi or (god forbid) Wake were to go down with an injury. Someone like Mathias Kiwanuka or Antwan Barnes would make perfect sense.

I’m particularly intrigued by the possibility of bringing Antwan Barnes in as a role player. He’s the type of guy that could provide some level of pass rush if we did lose Wake to injury.

by DolfanVince86 on Jun 29, 2011 11:55 AM EDT reply actions  

Barnes. his 40 time is good, but the first couple steps are the most important.

Kiwanuka seems to be the pass rush specialist out of this bunch. 4 sacks in 3 games? that’s outstanding.

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by PotM on Jun 29, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just looked at his old scouting report

Barnes is quick, but not the most talented of players. He would fit in nicely in a role player/back up position.

But I do agree with you about Mathias Kiwanuka. Just read his report as well, and it seems like we could come away with a playmaker at an incredible value. He would definitely bring more to the table, but he would also be a little more expensive. There also might be a little bit more competition for Kiwanuka than for Barnes.

by DolfanVince86 on Jun 29, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

one year contract that we can restructure if he stays healthy and is still putting up great stats?

We would just need to find a place for Misi.

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by PotM on Jun 29, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

i feel like i must ignoring the need...

for an upgrade to outside linebacker. I dont personally have as problem with the players that we have in place now. I am thinking that a reshuffling may take place once jared odrick is able to start producing. Maybe Misi to inside LB could be a good move…i just dont know,

by Phinphinatic on Jun 29, 2011 1:18 PM EDT reply actions  

The problem is depth.

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by PotM on Jun 29, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's what I told her....

"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
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by Alpha6 on Jun 29, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dude...didn't you get that backwards?

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by Flip-her on Jun 29, 2011 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have the solution!

Move Vontae Davis to outside linebacker.

by DolfanVince86 on Jun 29, 2011 1:33 PM EDT reply actions  

... and move Henne to TE...

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by Alpha6 on Jun 29, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, he'd be buried on the depth chart.

I hear Brandon Marshall and Roberto Wallace are both making the switch to tight end.

by DolfanVince86 on Jun 29, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

Dumb

IM HUNGRY, FEED THE WOLF

by dolfan702 on Jun 29, 2011 2:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

It's a joke

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by PotM on Jun 29, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

That’s why I put “lol”

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by dolfan702 on Jun 29, 2011 3:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Pot is slow...

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by Alpha6 on Jun 29, 2011 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

MISI

Is a bad ass OLB, he was amazing in the run..watch video and when he was on the field they ran toward Wake..lol misi is strong line backer..he’s not gonna get as many sacks as we would like but he will be a double digit sack player this year..mark my words..he’s bad ass against the run and can get too the QB..he ligit

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by dolfan702 on Jun 29, 2011 2:18 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

If Wake can lead the league in sacks and Misi gets 10, we are

good at OLB for the next few years.

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by PotM on Jun 29, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

JT is the way to go

We have our starting outside linebacker in Misi. What we need is someone that can come in on third down and rush the passer. Someone that won’t break the bank and someone that is not looking for a long term deal (because we hope Misi will eventually play 3 downs).

Taylor took 1.5 million last year to play for the stinking jets I have no doubt he would do the same for us. It’s not like we have a bunch of young outside linebackers we’re trying to coach up.

by sdelinois on Jun 29, 2011 3:05 PM EDT reply actions  

I dont like it

We dont need another voice in the locker room. This needs to be Dansby and Wake’s team

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by Souwantmyname on Jun 29, 2011 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Our guys are young people It take a little time, Misi will be fine, very good SOLB, will he be a super stud? doubt it

Everybody learns the Pro game a little slower, Wake played so so first year then went into sick mode,WOLB is alot easier than SOLB , easy job, get the QB. Give Misi one more year before we want to burn him.

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by 21Dave on Jun 29, 2011 4:51 PM EDT reply actions  

From a purely sentimental standpoint

I’d like to see JT retire as a Dolphin. He happened to be a class act and may even have one more season left in the tank. I agree with Matty. With Parcells in the rear view mirror, Taylor may be a cosideration.

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by CanT0o on Jun 29, 2011 6:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Class act? Really?

Was it classy for him to put our FO in limbo when he was deciding on retiring or Dancing with the Stars? Was it classy of him to go to our most hated rivals in search of a SuperBowl that he couldnt lead this team to? Come on man I know people loved him when he was here but dont use terms that have nothing to do with him

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

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by Souwantmyname on Jun 29, 2011 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

^^^This^^^

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by Flip-her on Jun 29, 2011 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

kiwanuka! or JT!

it all just depends on what i really want… do i wanna win football games (kiwanuka)? …or do i wanna see my boy back in a Dolphins uniform (JT)? ….ahhh, decisions, decisions…

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by tylerrr on Jun 29, 2011 9:02 PM EDT reply actions  

I stand by my statement

JT was a class act. Miami (Parcells) didnt want him. The Jets did. You go where people want you. Taylor would have gladly stayed in Miami and probably for a home town discount. He was a class act in our community as well. Received awards from several South Florida charities and organizations which I’m not about to Google that and accumulated his Pro-Bowl and likely HOF creds while playing for the Dolphins.

There are younger players on our FA radar that might meet our immediate needs better than Taylor however I hope we get him back at some point to see him retire as a Dolphin.

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The other 77% are Jets fans.

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by CanT0o on Jun 29, 2011 9:10 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree w/DolphinVince about ILB Ikaika Alama-Francis

He was a 2nd rounder for a reason. He was a ‘force’ until some bug got him and hopefully next season will have recouped and have Edd’s or Dansbys back.
Moving Misi….a guy who, in his first year, and never played the position before, who has more ‘upside’ then ‘almost’ any FA out there, is….well, stupid! People kept bitchin last year about juggling the offense…. Let the flower blossom!

I say “almost” any FA, because IMO, the most under-rated OLB out there is “James Anderson” …not Charlie! Not so much as the Pass rusher that Misi will become…but the ‘solid’ depth he would bring.
When we were discussing Chowder at ILB…where most running tackles are made… it was a head shaker….because of the low #’s.
The Panthers are run at allot… and Anderson…..at “OLB”, has 130 tackles!
O…did I mention that was just last season?

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by Flip-her on Jun 29, 2011 9:44 PM EDT reply actions  

OMG!!!

Ozkar. I am surprised…not so much as you agreeing with me…but your feelings for Misi.
100% agree!
Hope you tucked your son in OK!

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by Flip-her on Jun 29, 2011 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

The solution to this is very simple...

We need a situational pass rusher who can rush the passer either standing up on with his hand in the dirt. We don’t need to replace Misi unless we can get a dynamic pass rusher and there are none to be had at this point. Lawson is an older, more expensive version of Misi (a good run stuffing OLB who can get disruptions, but doesn’t get a lot of sacks). Misi is more than adequate at OLB, but wasn’t as effective in the nickel package. In our nickel package, we generally have a 4 man front, with Wake rushing from the LE position. We need a good pass rusher who can rush from the DE spot. We don’t need to replace Misi.

IMO, the ideal solution is to get a guy like JT or Kiwanuka. These guys will be cheaper than Lawson and will not be as concerned about starting. These guys can rush the QB with the hands on the ground and would work in our sub package.

So Misi would be in the game as a SOLB during rushing situations and as a OLB pass rusher. In our nickel package, Crowder would leave the field, Misi could slide over to the ILb spot (better in coverage than Crowder and we don’t know what we are getting with Edds yet), and JT or Kiwi would be the RE. So we would have a DL of Wake at LE, Odrick and Starks at DT, and JT/Kiwi at RE; Dansby and Misi as our LBs and then our secondary. That would be a tough defense to throw against; two dynamic end rushers, dynamic LBs who can cover or blitz and of course, our improving secondary.

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by The Earl on Jun 29, 2011 10:36 PM EDT reply actions  

I completely agree.

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by PotM on Jun 29, 2011 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

But whom?

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by Flip-her on Jun 29, 2011 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

BTW

Misi played plenty OLB in college, he also played ILB as well.

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by uncle finster on Jun 30, 2011 8:22 AM EDT reply actions  

Why didn't you say this earlier?

All the crap talk could have been avoided.

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"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."
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by Alpha6 on Jun 30, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

hahaha

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by uncle finster on Jun 30, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

if the price is right, i would like to bring in lawson to compete with misi. if misi beats him out, play him on the inside with dansby. mite be better against the run. tall enuff to drop in coverage. could never have enuff good LB. we need a faster ILB anyway. ILB is the biggest need on def.. at worst it adds depth.

by warpigs on Jun 30, 2011 11:48 AM EDT reply actions  

I think I may have started the Misi to ILB the day he was drafted, lol

and if we picked up Lawson that would put us in a position to do exactly that.

I’m all for it!

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by uncle finster on Jun 30, 2011 1:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Kiwanuka gets my vote.

He’s a good fit for what we need, I like his upside, and he’d be fun to root for, coming off the injury and all.

The others . . . meh. If we could pick one of them up cheap, just for depth, that’s fine, but that’s about the extent of my interest. I wouldn’t give much for any of them.

JT might be a decent situational rusher this year, and it would be kinda nice to have him retire as a Dolphin, but I can’t help feeling he’s hit that point in his career where his effectiveness is about to nosedive.

Puzzled.

by urbino on Jun 30, 2011 7:26 PM EDT reply actions  

In hindsight, CP's remarkable season did hinder a1-15 team form acquiring more talent..

 At higher early picks! The following year We would have drafted between the 6th and 8th pick of the first round! How has the top 10 players of that class pan out? When Pennington was announced as a Phin I was optimistic. He was a Parcells’ footballer. I knew Our 1-15 record wasn’t actual to the team we had. And I thought Bill was the guy to turn Our Beloved franchise around.Best of luck to Chad Pennington! Thx for a phenomenal season!

by Ozkar on Jun 30, 2011 10:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh good Jorge is here!

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by texascowpunk on Jun 30, 2011 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL Arrogant? How is that? Cowpunk is a style of music but I will excuse your ignorance.

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by texascowpunk on Jun 30, 2011 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Truth be told..... many people don't know that tidbit.

I only know it because of you.

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by PotM on Jun 30, 2011 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes but come on.

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by texascowpunk on Jun 30, 2011 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know, just giving you a hard time.

At first I thought you liked to go cow tipping or mess with cows some other way.

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by PotM on Jul 1, 2011 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I know nothing of livestock, cows or otherwise.

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by texascowpunk on Jul 1, 2011 4:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cows are friggin pains in the ass!

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by PotM on Jul 1, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Better hope that Alpha does not see that comment.

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by texascowpunk on Jul 1, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

?

.

"Too many of us look at Americans as dollar chasers. This is a cruel libel, even if it is reiterated thoughtlessly by the Americans themselves.""Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of truth and knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the Gods.""Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe.""The most incomprehensible thing about the world is it is comprehensible.""Peace can not be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." - Albert Einstein - "pm striker king"- WZB. Mosul's Blog

by PotM on Jul 1, 2011 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Think harder. It will come to you.

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by texascowpunk on Jul 2, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

and it didn't

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by PotM on Jul 11, 2011 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ok, this time use your whole brain........

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"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
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by texascowpunk on Jul 11, 2011 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

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by Alpha6 on Jun 30, 2011 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Least of his issues.

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by texascowpunk on Jul 1, 2011 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I figured it would be lost on you. Its from my music blog.

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by texascowpunk on Jun 30, 2011 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess you do not understand the definition of internet troll. No I don't have a band personally

and I am connected all day long at work so I can do as I please.

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by texascowpunk on Jun 30, 2011 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are those the people that live in the cesspool called NJ?

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by PotM on Jul 1, 2011 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

They are for sure some of it.

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"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
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by texascowpunk on Jul 1, 2011 4:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

I feel only slightly insulted since I live in NJ

But seeing some people here and being from SoFla… it doesn’t strike the nerve too deep!

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by Finhead83 on Jul 1, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

But you still have to live in Jersey.....

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"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
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by texascowpunk on Jul 1, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

there is always an exception to the rule.

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by PotM on Jul 1, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

and you are from SoFL.

"Too many of us look at Americans as dollar chasers. This is a cruel libel, even if it is reiterated thoughtlessly by the Americans themselves.""Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of truth and knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the Gods.""Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe.""The most incomprehensible thing about the world is it is comprehensible.""Peace can not be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." - Albert Einstein - "pm striker king"- WZB. Mosul's Blog

by PotM on Jul 1, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are you talking to yourself again Pot?

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"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
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by texascowpunk on Jul 1, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

perhaps.

"Too many of us look at Americans as dollar chasers. This is a cruel libel, even if it is reiterated thoughtlessly by the Americans themselves.""Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of truth and knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the Gods.""Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe.""The most incomprehensible thing about the world is it is comprehensible.""Peace can not be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." - Albert Einstein - "pm striker king"- WZB. Mosul's Blog

by PotM on Jul 1, 2011 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sometimes that's the only option I suppose.

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"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
Apple has a new anti-sexting feature. Brett Favre, you going to want to get the Android!

by texascowpunk on Jul 2, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

What about Julian Peterson

He was cut by the lions (pay cut). I think he has one or two years left and could be a nice push and teacher for MISI and Wake. He would do what Jason didnt want want to do . Be a third down player!

by bpratt on Jul 2, 2011 12:05 AM EDT reply actions  

Apparently he had a few problems with his work ethic

and started missing tackle and blowing assignments.

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by PotM on Jul 2, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

I woildnt mind Lawon and Killamanjaro

I mean Kiwanuka

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Miss the misery.
Need a reason for a change.
Need a reason to explain.
So turn it on again.
Don't change your mind.
You're wasting light.

by Patssuck456 on Jul 2, 2011 7:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Why not keep all in place, see how much we get!

Leaps & bounds after only one year!

wopper "the king" computer
We often look rite past the positive's cuz the negative's-r-so hard they dominate!

by wild zion beaver on Jul 9, 2011 5:08 PM EDT reply actions  

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