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Remember the 3 year rebuilding project? Identifying what made it successful

 Hi guys. From what I can see in the comments there are a lot of new guys around and a bunch of the old timers gone. I haven't been around for a while either but still check out the site regularly. Back in the day I was known for being one of the most active non-americans in the site, as well as Neo's sworn nemesis. 

Although I did burnout and ended up leaving, I hold this community in high regard because without a doubt there is a bunch of high quality knowledge being thrown around here on a daily basis. This is why I now come back asking for help. 

I am putting together a pitch of a full blown rebuilding project for an MLS franchise that can't get it`s act together. The thing is -and the reason I come here for help- that when this project started to come off the ground I immediately thought about the Dolphins 08 season and using that effort as a blueprint for this thing. 

Back then we couldn't discuss enough the 3 year rebuilding process this team would undergo. From mentality and philosophy to identity on the field. This covered the type of GM the franchise would select, and then the Head Coach and his staff. It too focused on the type of Free Agents it would sign and the Draft strategy it would employ. Year one emphasized character and fundamentals (O-line, D-line). Year two saw a great 08 class develop as well as continue to build through the draft; shoring up the defense's skill positions with Vontae Davis and Sean Smith, both archetypes of this regime's philosophy. Year three - just as planned and overzealously anticipated by us- finally saw the temporary completion of the rebuilding process with an extremely aggressive offseason where the team added superstars Brandon Marshall and Karlos Dansby (exaggeration for emotional effect lol). 

 

At the end of this process the Dolphins went from 1-15 to being selected by many analysts as a serious dark horse candidate in the AFC East race for 2010. They began to be recognized as a tough as nails team that lived and die by the run - both on defense and offense-. Most of their core players were big and strong and mentally tough, with above average leadership qualities. As a fan you finally had a competitive team on the field week in and week out. A team with an identity -both mental and physical-. They beat Minny on the road and the Super Bowl champions in one of the toughest stadiums in the NFL. Unfortunately this regime could never find a Franchise QB who could lead the already competitive team they had built through three offseasons. At the end this proofed too costly for both the Front Office and the Coaching Staff and ended by them losing the team; first on the field and then off it too. 

Understandably fans and ownership were pissed off and if not for the lockout and Jim Harbaugh's novella this regime's tenure would have ended in disgrace and failure.

However, big picture aside and focusing solely on the rebuilding process itself, I can't help but believe that they did a tremendous job of building up this roster from scratch and fielding a competitive team. 

What I am asking of you is to help me identify the angles, decisions, and strategies this Front Office employed to make this turnaround happen.

For example: 

  • Get rid of old leadership rings (J.Taylor, Zach) 
  • Build lines first 
  • Bring in veteran leadership (Pennington)
I appreciate your help and hope this at least gets some discussion going and brings back some fond memories.  



Mau 

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by 54 on Jun 20, 2011 6:11 AM EDT reply actions  

Pretty good 54 but I would have to put both lines in the mix at the #2 spot.

In my opinion it is easy to predict who will win a football game by simply watching which direction the line of scrimmage moves after the snap. Whatever team is winning the line of scrimmage generally wins the game. Therefor the lines, the bigs, the nasties, the guys very rarely mentioned are the key.

Our O-Line had Justin Smiley who I am still miffed we got rid of. A great pulling guard adding flexibility to the offensive play calling.

Our D-Line had big Justin Furgeson in the middle who played well. We won in the trenches and that is how it gets done on Sundays.

by labrat3105 on Jun 20, 2011 7:36 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

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by PotM on Jun 20, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks.

that was important to.

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by 54 on Jun 20, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

The front office actually did very little

The mirage turnaround (I hate to call it that, but that’s reality, period, end of story) happened mainly because Brady got hurt, Favre imploded for some reason, and the very weak schedule…the FO contribution was mainly getting Pennington—who would not have been released by the Jets had the Jets not unwisely gone after Favre.

Then you have the players (yes, Sparano helped some) wanting to atone for the 1-15 season, and a few good rookies (Long, Langford, and Merling in game 17). So they were motivated that’s for sure.

It started out a four year project, but the only way it’s gonna succeed—considering the Fins are far more talented than they started out to be in 2008—is for Henne to do what they drafted him to do…or for a FA vet to do what Pennington did. Period, End of story.

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by lifeimitatesfootball on Jun 20, 2011 9:38 AM EDT reply actions  

I agree that those injurys helped and an easy schedule helped some but the truth is they

play in the NFL and ever game is difficult and nothing comes easy at that level. This is not middle what the hell ever state vs a top 10 college program. Any team can beat any team in the NFL on any given Sunday. Usually the best teams win on Sunday but you still have to have a good team to get in to the playoffs.

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by texascowpunk on Jun 20, 2011 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

This.

If you’re looking for a recipe for success, I don’t think that ’08 team is the standard to try and follow. That team and that year was purely context-driven; in other words, the situation around the team was just as much a driving influence as was the team itself.

Keep in mind that the “blueprint” for the Dolphins entering that season was the typical build-from-the-inside-out kind of plan — watch the Parcell’s draft special for the theory behind it all. The big debate in the NFL that is only something we can decide on in the next 5 or 10 years is whether or not this kind of team-building strategy is still successful, or in “todays NFL” if it’s just an antiquated way of playing the game and building teams.

As far as what that model is, it’s, well, “go big; go smart”. Player-wise, there are strict physical requirements, and they’ve had a history it seems of drafting players who were in leadership-type roles (i.e. had high football IQs). They also threw a lot of money out there (“go big” in a financial sense, as well).

With that said, the ‘08 team was a splash in the pan — it was an interesting knee-slapping good time. It was like watching any rag-tag underdog team suddenly do something. But the point here to make is that however much we like “The Mighty Ducks” or “The Sandlot”, when you’re talking about a model for development, you don’t choose those kinds of teams — it’s sort of a simple risk-reward assessment at that point. 1 out of every 10 times, sure, that team wins — but that ain’t exactly the greatest pitch….

…and as far as our Dolphins go, we’re 1* for 3 so far (with almost everyone clamoring for change!). So, my advice, at best, is to wait on using this team as your blueprint. It might prove that the 08 team was more like the standard that this team puts out (and that our 7 win seasons are aberrations), but at least for now at best all you can say is “the jury is still out.”

*This is assuming we consider 1-and-out in the playoffs a “successful” season. Some coaches and organizations — perhaps those we hate the most — would consider such a thing a failure. Not to sound like too much of a pessimist, but a division-championship is a paper-championship; winning the division is obviously a sign of good things, but it alone ain’t worth that much. In that case, our current regime is batting 0-3 on the success-o-meter.

by ehotonic on Jun 20, 2011 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good to see you resurface again Mau! Don't be such a stranger.
as well as Neo’s sworn nemesis.

That seems to be a common theme on this site.

I think the biggest thing that got us over the hump that year was a change in attitude. All of a sudden we started believing we could win. Not sure if it was the new coaching staff, all the changes they made, a guy like Pennington or just a magical combination of all three. What ever it was I wish we could have bottled it. Not sure how we lost it so fast either. The one thing that did change was the leader of the team when Pennington was no longer in there. Which is one reason that Henne gets blasted so much and its a hard point to argue with.

As far as the talent they got rid of its obvious now that Thomas was all but done but JT still has some tread on those tires. I know the theory of not holding the younger guys back was a reason that was often offered up as an excuse for why they did it but even now there seems to be a spot for the guy. Just sayin’!

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by texascowpunk on Jun 20, 2011 9:40 AM EDT reply actions  

Yes. I am a fan.

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by texascowpunk on Jun 20, 2011 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

BTW, as for rebuilding...

It takes one part being in the right position at the right time (for the 08 Fins it was being in the same division with an elite QB who was out for the year that meant his team could not be at their top game—yet the Pats almost won it with Matt Cassel—along with an aging ex-elite QB on a team with a crappy coach, Mangini), one part luck (ditto, plus very weak schedule…playing two very weak divisions like NFC west and ACF west in the same year isn’t something that happens a lot), and one part skilled talent acumen (I suspect Ireland and Sparano have some but maybe not enough).

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by lifeimitatesfootball on Jun 20, 2011 9:43 AM EDT reply actions  

mau. i love you!!!

where you been man!!!!!

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by dolfinfan34 on Jun 20, 2011 5:32 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Got to show up more often brother!

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by texascowpunk on Jun 20, 2011 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

dude where you been? ive missed you here!!

good to finally see you back around again.

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by dolfinfan34 on Jun 20, 2011 9:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I've been around. You were gone by the time I basically left though haha

But good to see you too man. By the way, you were wrong about Kenny Britt Finsx.

by MauMontaV5 on Jun 20, 2011 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

What? Did he not predict that Britt was destined for a nice cell one day?

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by texascowpunk on Jun 20, 2011 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahaha i aint him!!!

i thought we got past this!

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by dolfinfan34 on Jun 20, 2011 9:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

football!!!!!!!!

haha been training hard for my senoir year.

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by dolfinfan34 on Jun 20, 2011 10:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Thanks a lot guys. I read all the comments and they are spot on.

Exactly the insight I was looking for. I agree with Life and Ehotonic’s angle of looking at the 08 season as an anomaly. However, I do think it is pretty tough to come to a definite conclusion on the matter because of the QB situation. Meaning, had they drafted , say Josh Freeman in 09, would the rebuilding process be deemed a success. Possibly but then again maybe not.
Thanks again

by MauMontaV5 on Jun 20, 2011 9:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Josh Freeman

The thought of that makes me drool, but I think part of this discussion we’re having is exactly the idea that this regime — using the model of drafting that they do — perhaps would not have had Freeman as an ideal candidate for drafting, and hence, would not have attempted to aggressively move up to get him (like the Bucs ultimately ended up doing — swapping 17th and 19th picks, plus giving up a 6th; that would have left the Phins minus Vontae Davis and Andrew Gardiner had the phins entered into a similar deal with Cleveland (who had the 17th pick)).

It’s fun to play retrospective history, but even with the Freeman scenario, the Phins would have only had to move up just a bit to get him (though we didn’t have a 2nd rounder, so there’s that to consider, too); nonetheless, the point still remains how someone like a Josh Freeman wasn’t appealing enough to this regime to warrant that kind of move (whereas in the same draft, he was for the Bucs, and Mark Sanchez was for the Jets).

It’s exactly this FO’s decisions to not make plays like this for (especially) quarter-backs that is at question here. They go after “sure thing” picks, and quarterbacks are the furthest thing from that. Even listen to Parcells in that great ESPN draft special when they talk about the blunder of the Pat White pick: Parcells says that they got caught up and got away from their draft PRINCIPLES. Taking a risk on a quarterback represents a kind of risk to this FO that they are generally not willing to take… it’s just a damn shame that they decided to make that risk on White, instead of channeling that risk into a move to jump up a few spots to try and land Freeman.

Josh Freeman… man, quietly one of the best QBs in the league… love that guy.

by ehotonic on Jun 21, 2011 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree. Only to add to your opinion; I found extremely interesting the logic behind

the FO not going for Freeman from a ¨rebuilding process mindset¨ and thus had they picked him then the other picks would`ve come from a different mindset and we wouldnt have jake long, bess or sean smith. All of them studs. However, just as you say, I think evaluating a QB is a whole different animal so I don´t think deviating from the rebuilding process’ blueprint for selecting players in Freeman’s case would’ve been impossible. Exhibit A, just as you said, was Pat White. Another simple way of saying it is that they couldn’t evaluate a QB to save their freaking heads so they probably saw Freeman as not hot enough. Too bad, imagine the team with that guy. And yes, he is becoming a top 10 QB as fast as anyone. Better than Flacco if you asked me

by MauMontaV5 on Jun 21, 2011 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Freeman

Josh Freeman was drafted the year after Henne was drafted in the 2nd round. Henne had yet to start and was a highly regarded prospect. Had the Dolphins selected Freeman in the first place, Miami would have been questioned why they selected Henne in the prior year and would view that as a wasted pick. It’s easy to say that Miami should’ve drafted someone like Freeman in retrospect, but the Dolphins already had a young QB on their roster.

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by Finhead83 on Jun 22, 2011 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Another thing to note,was the overall health of this team

Is it any wonder that our most successful season was the one where we were the most healthy?

Both times we went 7-9,we did it with what totalled almost half of our starters out due to injury. Backups are called that for a reason.

by dolphinfan4lyfe on Jun 20, 2011 10:26 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Good point sir. VERY good point.

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by texascowpunk on Jun 20, 2011 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank you,I do believe that had a big hand in our w/l percentage as well

Truth is,we took a lot of gambles on players with injury histories to fill in the blanks.

Also note, 3/5ths of our offensive line was out or injured last year,which I believe became a huge factor in our running game production.

Is it any wonder Ronnie spent so much time juking in the backfield when our starting offensive line was made up of backups that have no bussiness starting at this stage.

Speaking of Ronnie,i find it sad that his last two seasons have been healthy ones,yet his least productive because of the product of what he had blocking in front of him.

Id love to see him resigned and at least let him see what he can do with a healthy oline in front of him.

by dolphinfan4lyfe on Jun 20, 2011 10:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

09 was a great year (yards per game), but he got injured.

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by PotM on Jun 21, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, actually after that season somebody came up with a stat

that said almost every playoff team had an outstanding healthy roster. The thing though, as is usually the norm, is that stats aren`t infallible. For example the 10` GB Packers.

by MauMontaV5 on Jun 20, 2011 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well... at least you can say we've had limited success

I wasn’t expecting another 11-5 season in 2009 and despite the decline in our record, I do believe our team improved. We built upon the talent we brought in in 2008 and were able to start a promising overhaul of our secondary and defensive line. Despite the 7-9 record, we showed enough promise that 2010 was considered a disappointment with another 7-9 record. The lone bright spot, if you consider it one, is that the 2010 team is significantly more talented than the 2008 and 2009 team. Now it’s just getting the results from our talent…

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by Finhead83 on Jun 21, 2011 9:30 AM EDT reply actions  

True but as dolphinfan4lyfe pointed out we were hampered by injurys quite a bit last season.

Not sure that it made a 4 game difference but it made a difference.

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"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
Apple has a new anti-sexting feature. Brett Favre, you going to want to get the Android!

by texascowpunk on Jun 21, 2011 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes

Even still, I think it is fair to say 7-9 is a disappointment. If Peyton Manning is injured and the Colts finish 6-10, I’d imagine the Colts’ fans would still consider the season a failure. Even still, teams will always suffer injuries and unless it is a critical player that was lost, I tend not to give too much credit for pushing through injuries. Our offensive line definitely struggled through injuries, but our lone star on the unit continued to play and excel despite the injury. A player of Garner’s or Jerry’s abilities are lost for the season for a lot of teams in almost every season.

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by Finhead83 on Jun 21, 2011 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

If Peyton Manning is injured and the Colts finish 6-10, I’d imagine the Colts’ fans would still consider the season a failure.

Yes but we don’t have anything close to a Manning so its much different.

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by texascowpunk on Jun 21, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

True

I was using that though to say that even if you have injuries, a finish below your expectations is still a failed season. We did have injuries, but our star players were fine for the most part.

Jake Long still performed well with his injury and was not responsible for Miami’s poor offense. Miami also looked solid in one of the 2 games Marshall missed and went on to win the Oakland contest pretty easily.

I don’t think Nate Garner would’ve made a huge difference on our OL if he wasn’t injured. Jerry struggled at times despite his illness and I don’t think even his presence would’ve made a big change. Garner and Jerry together may have improved our OL a decent amount, but I think we’d still struggle to run the ball up the middle because of Berger and Jerry.

In fact, I think the one player that showed the biggest change to our team when we lost him was Brian Hartline.

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by Finhead83 on Jun 21, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes but if we had a QB that preformed to the level of a Manning then we overcome

those setbacks for at least a few more wins.

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"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
Apple has a new anti-sexting feature. Brett Favre, you going to want to get the Android!

by texascowpunk on Jun 21, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Probably

But my reason really is much simpler than the exact impact each injury has. My theory is that if a team is expected to finish 9-7 or 10-6 and make the postseason, anything less is considered a failed season. Of course there can always be reasons for it, but in the end, you still did not reach the level of expectations that were set for you.

But then again, if Henne’s play progressed as expected, we may have overcome those injuries as well. So really, Henne’s failure contributed to the team’s failure.

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by Finhead83 on Jun 21, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep. In the end, at least for us, it comes down to the QB play.

"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
Apple has a new anti-sexting feature. Brett Favre, you going to want to get the Android!

by texascowpunk on Jun 22, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes,but when Carey went down for the season,it did something to our running game

Marshall was out for a couple of games,Hartline was pretty much our primary endzone weapon,and he was lost halfway through the season. Jerry lost valuable learning and playing time because of his illness,we played an entire quarter without a viable option at qb,and to make matters worse,only thighpen and he still couldnt manage to stay on the field. Our offense staggerd,and we suffered from a severe lack of continuity.

Add the complications of the wildcat,and that furthers continuity issues.

Now,on releasing Grove,and Smiley,sure it wasnt time,but in all retrospect,no one could doubt it was inevitable. Guys like them,are like tape added to a leaky pipe,temporary solutions until you can go to the store on payday. Which with the additions we made in the last two years,should do fine to replace what we lost for a long time. And it should do well to help this team by adding a bit of continuity

by dolphinfan4lyfe on Jun 21, 2011 2:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

We only suffered in 1 game without Marshall

Carey wasn’t lost until mid-December and our running game was in shambles before that.

Hartline had the biggest of the impacts, but he still played 75% of the games. I would pray that Hartline isn’t out primary endzone weapon because he had 1 TD in the 11 1/2 games he did play.

Yes, we played a quarter without a QB, but we still won the game. The Wildcat failing is not an excuse. You can only do so much to help injuries, but the use of the Wildcat is fully controllable. That is no excuse for Miami’s failed season.

Grove and Smiley have nothing to do with this since both of them were discarded buy the team, not injured. Again, my comment is that I don’t generally give teams too much leeway for failed seasons because of injuries because every team will have their share. Yes, some will be worse than others. Miami had their share of injuries, but to me they still didn’t play to their expectations. This is why we have backups and depth charts. Building depth is part of the game.

If we have to rely on all 22 starters to be perfectly healthy for the entire season to be successful, we will only have a successful season once every 15-20 years.

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by Finhead83 on Jun 21, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dont know whether it would have made a huge 4 game difference

But I do believe that it would have made a difference in at least 2-3 games,seeing as we only lost those by a few points.

by dolphinfan4lyfe on Jun 21, 2011 11:03 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah that was my point.

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"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
Apple has a new anti-sexting feature. Brett Favre, you going to want to get the Android!

by texascowpunk on Jun 21, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Even a 2 game difference would be huge.

a 9-7 record might have put us in the playoffs as a WC and no one would complain about TS.

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by PotM on Jun 21, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

True.

"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
Apple has a new anti-sexting feature. Brett Favre, you going to want to get the Android!

by texascowpunk on Jun 21, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or Henne... to an extent.

- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.

by Finhead83 on Jun 21, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

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