The Friday Five: Daniel Thomas the key to the 2011 Dolphins draft class
Ever since last week's NFL Draft, one of the most polarizing picks has been the selection of Kansas State running back Daniel Thomas in the second round by the Miami Dolphins. It seems that fans nor experts can agree on whether or not Thomas will prove to be worthy of the second round pick the Dolphins traded up for to acquire the big back.
As we have already mentioned, the trade up itself was actually a steal for the Dolphins - at least based on the famed draft value chart. But that won't mean anything if Thomas doesn't prove to be worthy of the 62nd overall selection.
That's where we begin this week's "five."
1. Was Daniel Thomas a steal late in the second round? Truthfully, "steal" is not the first term that comes to mind when I think about the Dolphins taking Thomas at the bottom of round two. But Michael Lombardi seems to believe he was a steal, starting off his Five Things I Liked column by writing, " I liked Daniel Thomas, the running back from Kansas State who the Miami Dolphins traded up to draft in the second round. When the trade was announced, I thought Miami would select quarterback Ryan Mallett. I do worry about Thomas' ball security, though, as he had 11 fumbles in his career in two years."
You know, if this is an example of something Lombardi liked about the draft - at the top of his list, in fact - then I'd hate to see what he'd write if he didn't like a pick. Lombardi didn't exactly give Thomas a ringing endorsement. Still, I'm always encouraged when one of the more respected analysts (and former NFL exec himself) supports a pick that I wasn't exactly a huge fan of.
Not to be too much of a pessimist, but here's what I see when I watch film of Thomas (which you can watch for yourself by clicking here). I see a one cut runner who lacks a burst. He can't get to the edge. And despite his size, he rarely breaks tackles (I counted two against Nebraska) and typically goes down on initial contact. I also didn't see much wiggle, though I've read scouting reports that claim he has quick feet for a kid his size.
I see a back who follows his blocks and will be most effective behind a very good offensive line. I didn't see any kind of improvisation, usually running where the play was designed even if the hole just wasn't there.
Of course, he was selected by people who make these decisions for a living. I'm just a lowly fan. So I'm going to hope I'm wrong about him.
in three years, though, the success of the '11 Miami Dolphins draft class will likely hinge on the kind of career Thomas is putting together in Miami.
2. Scouts Inc.'s Matt Williamson sees a Dolphin on the verge of breaking out. His name? Koa Misi. In an article for ESPN, Williamson lists Koa among his "soon to be stars." But that's not all. Williamson writes that "Vontae Davis and Sean Smith could be on the cusp of becoming perhaps the premier tandem of corners in the league."
"In fact, I think the Miami defense as a whole is on the verge of establishing itself as one of the truly elite units in the NFL," writes Williamson. From his keyboard to God's ears - that's all I got to say.
3. Don Shula isn't a big fan of Bill Parcells. On with Dan Le Batard, Shula was asked about Parcells. Shula's response?
"I don’t think much of him," said Shula. "I’m not a big Parcells fan. He was here and I guess tried to get it done, but it didn’t happen. And he’s moved on, and that’s been his history."
Translation: Shula says Bill's a little bitch who quit because he didn't prove to be as smart as he thinks he is.
4. Ryan Mallett preparing for "payback." Seriously. I'm not making this up. Mallett's father told the Boston Herald that Ryan was angry because the Dolphins told him they were interested in trading up for the big quarterback. But the Dolphins drafted Thomas in the second round after moving up and were unable to trade back into the third to take Mallett.
So Ryan's response to this? "Payback." Yeah - maybe in five years or so. Because he's not getting on the field anytime soon in New England.
5. Is CBS crazy? How could they let Gus Johnson walk away? The man is a broadcasting icon right now, whose arrow is still clearly pointing up. And now we're going to e deprived of great calls like this one.
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I read that Mallet thing.
I hope he doesn’t throw his clipboard at any Phins.
I will agree to disagree with you - as long as you understand that I'm right.
Maybe he' should have gone to the Jets
So he can trip our players from the sideline
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by wild zion beaver on May 6, 2011 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
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Bad little boy….he’s aptly named.
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by PhrozenPhish on May 7, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I think I read that Daniel Thomas hasn't missed a game through injury.
That was probably a big factor. From the clips that I’ve been able to watch of him, he seemed up against it a bit. The defense looked like it had no intention of defending anything but the run, yet he looked good, no Adrian Peterson, but good.
I see the same thing here..
I read on a few comments on some vids of him that they had zero pass attack and Thomas was THE offense. So that would mean allot of 8 in the box against the run. I have also noticed that in some vids he looks better then others, maybe some of the videos are with his hamstring sore? Dunno but I hope he turns out to be the next RB without the injuries… that would be good enough for me.
I say resign Brown if he doesnt want Elite cash, and let this kid and Brown tear it up.
Henne needs to step up
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Add Clay to that mix...
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I'd rather get a FA scat back.
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There is one thing I like about Thomas.
He has a knack for making people barely miss tackles. Every time it looks like someone has him zeroed in, he turns his hips and feet just enough to freeze or move the defender just enough to throw off the would be tackler. Kinda how a boxer that wants to evade a punch while staying close enough to counter, he makes guys miss while maintaining forward momentum.
I don’t see him breaking too many runs over 30yds but I seem him getting 15-20 yds often with a solid O-line.
I’m really excited to see how he and Clay will be used. I think Clay could be a steal!
I see allot of 10 yard runs in his vid clips as well.
Henne needs to step up
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By the time Mallet sees the field
Our whole FO and coaching situation will have probably changed a few times so who’s he gonna pay back??
As far as Thomas goes, it was a ‘meh’ pick. Runs upright, no elite speed, goes down on contact, puts it on the ground….wow, whats not to like! And he only cost us a few picks to move up!
On a more positive note, I think Gates and Clay will shine. Pouncey will be a plug and play and will bolster our O line for Henne to get the job done, which I believe he will.
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I couldn't agree with this more
except for the Clay pick. No idea what or where he’s going to play. He looks the size of a full back, listed as an H-Back and plays TE. Haven’t seen a lot of teams utilizing the Wing-T except us on 3rd and 8. lol
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by More Miami than Crockett and Tubbs on May 6, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
He was listed as #1 FB/TE on CBSsports.
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Kind of what I was saying.
How many FB/TEs can you name?
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by More Miami than Crockett and Tubbs on May 7, 2011 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions
since last week
from the fans: negative comments about Thomas.
But the experts seem to be very high on Thomas. Heck, Steve Wyche thinks he’ll be OROY. From watching his tape, he’s big and physical. Now we just need to add a “scat” back in FA.
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And Yahoo! thinks he'll be the Fantasy OROY too
Of course, we all know that expert opinions (not like Yahoo! is loaded with experts anyway) ultimately mean squat. But I guess I’m more optimistic than most about this kid.
Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!
Just look at this logically
Sparano LOVES to run the football. We dont have a QB and our defense is close to being elite. The only way we are going to win games is with a strong ground game. Sparano knows this.
If Thomas can make Ricky and Ronnie expendable in pre-season then he’s going to get alot of carries
With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother
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by Souwantmyname on May 6, 2011 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions
MaLLeTT
Needs to sit down somewhere. I also honestly believe that this defense will be elite. They surpassed many expectations in year one, and I think we haven’t seen the best designed plays for the core. We should see multiple different schemes now that we have a year under out belt
by Goon305Boy10 on May 6, 2011 5:56 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I agree with Williamson
I think the Dolphins are on the verge of having the best D in the division…better than the gdmfg Jets! AND one of the NFL’s elite units! We’re getting Odrick, Edds and Allen back and if Nolan keeps doing what he does best, our D is gonna rock!
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Getting Odrick back will be KEY. We’ll have 4 capable starters on the line: Odrick, Starks, Langford, and Solia. Then at LB, hopefully Crowder can stay healthy and we’ll have Misi, Crowder, Dansby, and Wake. At CB we’ll have Smith, Davis, Nolan, and Will Allen (assuming he’s still on the roster?). At Safety we’ll have Clemons with a full year under his belt, Bell, and a ready to step in Reshard Jones.
This defense has something it’s lacked for a while….quality DEPTH! Out of the guys I failed to mention there’s still Edds, Merling, Dobbins, Alama-Francis, and McDaniel. I mean this Defense is very deep. I think they’re on the verge to “reinvinting” themselves to be that defense that was anchored by Zach Thomas, Jason Taylor, Surtain, and Madison for years.
If I think about the one thing that irritates me about Ronnie Brown....
It is that he is NOT a one cut runner. At 230 lbs if you should be making one cut OR LESS. Every time Ronnie Brown is on the edge and has ONE 190lb CB to beat and he tries to juke him I want to SCREAM. He is not going to juke the CB for one, and while he is messing around with a guy he could just flatten, the rest of the defense is running him down.
From what I hear this guy has not been a RB for very long. Give them time to develop him and teach him how to run lower, carry the ball better, and use some of his size. That was one thing I liked when I watched the tape. He didn’t do a whole lot of cutting. If we can teach him to lower his head and flatten someone we will have a definite upgrade to Ronnie Brown. We will have the RB that Ronnie Brown could have been, but never was. Add to that he will have less mileage. I like the idea of adding a guy like D’Angelo Williams to our backfield and letting Ronnie and Ricky go to another team.
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If I only had the nerve."--Sparano
That was the first thing I thought of too
he’s only been a RB for two years.. he’s practically a shiny new car!
Gonna take a fortnight at least to get this herd down to St. Louis on Mississippi. This glen's gonna be tough to traverse, and that river's got to be 50, 60 meters wide. And God knows how many fathoms. To hell with parliamentary procedure. We've got to wrangle up some cattles!
If Ronnie is able to stick around...
and our line is strong again, everyone will be singing his praises once again. He is an elite back when he’s healthy. It was hard for him to show that with our crappy line last year. Now, he just needs to stay healthy! I’m pretty sure Ireland was thinking about Ronnie when he was comparing Thomas to an NFL back. The are very similar. They’re probably hoping he can be like Ronnie but without the injuries!
by WestHallsGhost on May 6, 2011 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions
^^ score
Henne needs to step up
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Theo Walcott, he's ok, my fave player is Van Persie.
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by Redeyedbandit on May 7, 2011 1:27 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Just stop.
He’s not an elite back, ever.
He’s never been an elite back.
Elite backs finish a season. When Ronnie has been able to finish a season, he’s ranked outside the top 20 of the league… thats not elite.
Just stop.
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by Fr8Train on May 6, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Like a homer, I tried to avoid the reality
But Ronnie is just average at best.
In 6 seasons:
Avg 802 yards per year
Avg 6 rushing td’s per year
1008 is career high in rush yardage ( 17 players did that this year alone)
I’m done being a homer. I’m glad to have the fresh legs and upside of Thomas. Its been obvious when watching Ronnie/Ricky split carries who is the better back and he’s 34. Its sad that Ronnie had the injuries but we can’t sit and wait any longer. Time to cut bait.
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by More Miami than Crockett and Tubbs on May 6, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly.
Yeah, the injuries held Ronnie back, but you you know what?
Other backs don’t have those issues….
I won’t shed a tear if Ronnie doesn’t get re-signed.
I’m excited to see what Thomas and the FA acquisition we get do together.
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I'd prefer it if he doesnt get re-signed
We dont need a washed up veteran getting in the way of Thomas
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I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on May 6, 2011 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Potential has the ability
to wear itself out. Ronnie’s jersey was the first one I’ve ever bought so I rooted hard for him but its just time to own up and realize its never going to happen.
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by More Miami than Crockett and Tubbs on May 7, 2011 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Has not been a RB for that long but he has learned against good competition though
Maybe thats a blessing, him not being expossed to bad coaching (it’s out there) And so he can grow with this team and its blossoming Defense.
Matty,
Remember before the draft, you posted your top 10 at RB, and it didn’t even include Thomas. In reply I asked you why not Daniel Thomas, and you said because you weren’t too high on him. Of course not only do we draft the one RB that you didn’t mention. But we also traded up to get him!! I am happy with the selection. On NFL Network, Brian Baldinger also labeled Thomas as a steal, and perhaps the only rookie rb outside of Ingram that will be a stud right away because of the team that drafted him, and the need at the position. Remember, this kid has only played the position for two years, and last year racked up over 1,600 yards and 19 td’s. That maybe more than our whole offense last year…LOL.
Where is Oronde Gadsden when we need him?
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by FinzD54 on May 6, 2011 6:54 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
^^^ score
Henne needs to step up
B Marshall + B Hartline D Bess = The 2nd comming of The Killer B's MPF 04/17/10
If I took the time to check for errors I would forget what I was trying to say! Deal !
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Draft *Robert Quinn* for Wake's sake."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
one time......time.
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The Fugees! Lol!
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by Redeyedbandit on May 7, 2011 1:30 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Hey nah nah nah
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by More Miami than Crockett and Tubbs on May 7, 2011 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions
FYI
Ronnie and Ricky combined for 1407 yards and 7 touchdowns in 16 games
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by More Miami than Crockett and Tubbs on May 6, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Sumtimes the player takes off a bit, the following year after having a career year like that!
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by wild zion beaver on May 6, 2011 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope Mallett gets his shot at revenge
Because that means we knocked Brady’s ass into next week.
I’m indifferent to Bill Parcells. I’ll always treasure Don Shula though.
Bad news for all of the Miami fans that like to bitch: If Miami’s defense reaches its potential this year, and Chad Henne improves, its going to be a great season.
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by mikem1224 on May 6, 2011 7:43 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Amen to everything!
Just think how stupid the average Jest fan is, and then realize that half of them are even stupider! ( a parody of a George Carlin line)
You couldn't be more right.
Unfortunately for those of us who are optimistic, we could have a team full of all-pro players and it wouldn’t matter if the labor situation is not settled!
by DolfanVince86 on May 6, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
coming from a 1-15...
Season to being a QB away from being a playoff in 3 years is an accomplishment. I don’t think bill was brought in to win a SB. That wasn’t my expectation based on reality.
He was supposed to build a foundation. I am glad it played out the way it did, with him leaving like he did. We can build a young strong team and go for QB in 2012 or 2013.
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by nmphinfan on May 6, 2011 3:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
If Shula had the resources we have today
as to finding, evaluating, etc….he’d still be coaching!
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This was suppose to be below....."I Hope Mallett"
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Why can't women put on mascara with their mouth closed?
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Daniel Thomas is not the type of rb i like
He runs upright.
He doesnt have big butt/thighs like a Michael Turner, MJD, that make them tough to bring down.
He doesnt run with much power, didnt see him even try to truck one person in his “highlight”.
He’s easily brought down, if u try to tackle him high he doesnt have a stiff arm move or any type of aggresiveness to overpower the defender.
If u try to tackle him low, he has skinny legs that make it a breeze for even a cb to bring him down
The only thing I do like is his vision, patience, and potential (because he’s a qb turned rb).
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by Davone_Is_BessT on May 6, 2011 7:49 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I dont mind the fact that he doesnt have
great speed. I love me some power backs more than scat backs but I still dont like the Daniel Thomas pick.
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by Davone_Is_BessT on May 6, 2011 7:53 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Agreed...agreed...
I just don’t see that much “RB” talent here… He is a big kid, slow, but dosent seem to run with the power he should have. any number of RB’s were better picks…I think with a RB you need both speed and some power…. If you do not get both – then so many backs are equal to each other – thus why we shouldnt have traded up for DT. no way.
By just Standing PAT in the 3rd round you could have taken RB’s Alex Green (96th) or in the 4th round Kendall hunter (115) Taiwan Jones (125th) Delone Carter (119th) I would Argue that ALL these players are as good as Thomas. Of the Group I would have taken Taiwan Jones to add speed to the RB corp.
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Franchise QB... NOW !!! ...Draft Ryan Mallett ...Draft some Freakin speed for a change. WR & RB speed kills......
Since when does "doesn't have elite speed" mean "slow?"
The guy tore up UCLA last year when everyone on the field knew he was getting the ball.
He walked for 234 yards and two touchdowns???
Chris Johnson has elite speed but so does CJ Spiller.
Maurice Jones-Drew racked up 1300 yds and his longest carry was 37. Give the guy a chance.
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by PhrozenPhish on May 7, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
MJD runs a high 4.3
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by Davone_Is_BessT on May 9, 2011 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow thats kinda a big bang theory, just dont shake the can to long!
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by wild zion beaver on May 9, 2011 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes
This team said they need speed and someone who can create offense on there own. He isn’t going break a 60 yard run in the nfl(he didn’t do it in college). He is shifty but he isn’t as talent as ronnie. ok he might be a better natural runner than roonie but ricky is still a better runner than the both of them. for everyone that says straight line speed doesn’t matter to running backs, ask chris johnson if his speed isn’t a factor. I’m not certain about this stat but im sure most elite backs don’t run a 4.7 forty at the combine. He is a slower Ronnie with better vision. I would have pasted
by Renaldo Pierre Brown on May 6, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Disappointed The Heat taking the 1st 2 games against Boston didn't make it
Especially the way Wade and LBJ made KG and Rondo looked last game.
Lets See.
1) Make Paul Pierce lose his cool and get tossed – Check
2) Make KG look like a lost zombie – Check
3) Own Rondo’s annoying @ss like a bowling pin – Check
Three down one to go. Mr Allen, you’re next.
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D Wade crossed Allen and made him fall down. Then buried a jumper.......it was hilarious!!
Here’s the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v121oPC3DK4
You can check Mr. Allen off your list……..and the whole Celtics team. That series is a wrap.
lolz
How did I miss that?! Awesome!
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"Permanence, perseverance and persistence in spite of all obstacles, discouragements, and impossibilities: It is this, that in all things distinguishes the strong soul from the weak." Thomas Carlyle
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by Neo on May 6, 2011 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions
I've been quiet for months
But I like the Thomas pick, I like this type of runner, and I was flipping out when they traded up to grab him.
If he sucks I will admit I was wrong. But I and pumped to have him and he and Gates are my 2 favorite picks of the draft. I look for Thomas to have a big year
The Patriots Suck
SCORE...
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Draft *Robert Quinn* for Wake's sake."
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by Alpha6 on May 6, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Once muney has changed hands, its all good!
wopper "the king" computer
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by wild zion beaver on May 6, 2011 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I was born in Chicago and seen many a women
and the “close up” on these….women?
Dude…….your standards?
O…thats right…we’re in Fla.
Elevator smell different to midget. -Chinese Proverb
Why can't women put on mascara with their mouth closed?
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He he he!!!
You were going sumwhere there for a second!
wopper "the king" computer
We often look rite past the positive's cuz the negative's-r-so hard they dominate!
by wild zion beaver on May 7, 2011 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions
PS flip when i first left Illinois daytona was a rather nice stop-off lots of loose girls. Then went to the key's man my heads were spinning for thirtyfive days
Biker week in daytona, then it was party city morn., noon, & nite! Went over to Seabring saw a car-race i think, cuz it was party all week again. Top off the early days in florida with sum R & R. If you can call it that went to big coppet key!
wopper "the king" computer
We often look rite past the positive's cuz the negative's-r-so hard they dominate!
by wild zion beaver on May 7, 2011 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Chicks! LOL! Didnt know you like women Alpha!
The way you kiss urbinos @ss, I thought you were a homo! LOL!
by Redeyedbandit on May 7, 2011 1:38 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
You fucking ass!
lmao!
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Or does he??????????
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I see Gates
as the key to the season. If he can catch a long pass in the first game, that will keep the defenses honest for the rest of the year and hopefully open up some running lanes.
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by PhinsAllDay on May 6, 2011 9:46 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
don't like Thomas at all...
But I will support him, and he should have a good chance to succeed behind Long, Pouncy and Richie… If he does NOT have a good year, (check avg per carry) and our OLINE is playing well – then this was a terrible waste… He is going to get a lot of carries….I think its important to get another back (like ronnie or RW) or DeAngelo Williams so that if thomas is a “fumbler” or dosent run very well – that he can just be a backup…. I really dont like having him as our “starter” right now… and would actually trust LEX better. I also hate that he was a QB – the best RB’s in the NFL are almost “born” to it… like Mark Ingram…
Shula’s comments validate what a LOT OF US have said here…. Parcells was NOT a success, was in it for his own “ego” and ran out of town…disagree with me if you want – But – SHULA pretty much summed it up. If you disagree with him – then I suppose perfection, and 4 SB appearances (2 titles) means nothing to you, as to his competency to speak on the subject…. Even shula, who loved running the ball – changed his offensive style after drafting Dan Marino….Parcells was and is “stuck” in the past ….but yea… parcells was a “god”….. NOT !!!
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that wasn't his job
He was never supposed to stay with us. His skill is to take a horrible team and turn it into an good team. He changes a small team into a big team. Many people say we are a “QB” away from being a team who has the chance to win in the playoffs.
He did his part, and now we can spend our team moving forward picking up play makers.
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by nmphinfan on May 6, 2011 3:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I actually think Chad Henne is the key to this draft
because this draft is as much about who we didn’t get—namely, a top rated QB—as who we did. All of our picks could hit but if Chad delivers another sub-par season and some rookie QB shines for someone else, the fan base will be apoplectic.
As for DT, I’m excited about the guy. I see more burst than Ronnie, as well as much greater lateral agility. If you’re only making one cut, it’s important to make that cut hard and at a high speed, and that is something he seems to do well.
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--at least we didn't take Andy Dalton--
--if we send another high draft pick to the Eagles for another one of their crap QBs I will truly give up--
Are these WEB advertisements...
Because dolphin fans are going to need to drink a lot this season ???
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drinks in celebration?
Our D is very solid, and I’m excited about our offense – solid line and new toys for the new OC. I’m going to Vegas in the fall, Dolphins are at 50:1 SB winners, I’ll throw atleast 10 down on them.
Parcells was hired to put the pieces in place. He actually did a really good job.
He put the entire front office and coaching staff together. He hand-picked Ireland for GM. Not to mention, our talent level increased tenfold. I would say his hiring was a success. He did exactly what he was hired to do.
Eric Dickerson was knocked for running upright….
by tdecker on May 6, 2011 10:10 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
coaching and FO...
Are two of our biggest weaknesses right now… Lets check back at the end of the season and see how far they take us this year. Is another 7-9 season good enough for you ???
Really I think tony is an OK coach – but Ireland showed me nothing in his first draft, w/o Parcells. it seemed like to me Bill was making the picks from afar…
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I agree about Parcells
and I can’t quite understand the hatred for him on this site. We were an old, talentless, directionless football team when he came in, and he installed a front office that has brought in a major influx of talent, particularly on the defensive side of the ball. And we have a hell of a coach in Sparano—although, again, a lot of folks around here would argue that point.
But the fact of the matter is that every year after Parcells took over we have had a legitimate shot at the playoffs, which is a lot more than what we had before. It seems like the fans wanted nothing less than a SB win—which is a completely unrealistic expectation. Big Tuna made us a relevant again—at worse a tough out, at best a contender—and I will always love him for that.
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--at least we didn't take Andy Dalton--
--if we send another high draft pick to the Eagles for another one of their crap QBs I will truly give up--
by Brooklynfinfan on May 6, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I really think we are closer to being a good offense this year
I won’t establish them as great yet,but they may get the job done enough to allow for the defense to not have to win games for them.
People have to realize,Daniel Thomas will get tested early,but not by other teams,in practice,where he will be up against a very solid defensive front,and linebackers named Misi,Dansby,and Wake. As well,they could very well place Gates opposite Carrol,giving both the opportunity to help each other develop.
Like some,I am extremely interested in seeing how this coaching staff plans to use Clay,pin him against Wake or Dansby in practice,and watch him become a very good player for us.
The thing I like most about this draft is what it does for our offensive trenches. What our lineup could look like is:
Long Incognito Pouncey Jerry Carey
Though id love to see Pouncey as our pulling Guard,his improvement last season after playing hiis college carreer next to his brother,has me hopeful he will be able to take the reigns from Berger,and give us that power to wrestle those NT’s in the middle,making our Guards jobs easier. Honestly in practices,I’d place his development in the hands of Starks,though letting Solai practiceagainst him could benefit Solai more. Make him earn that franchise tag.
Overall I’m more hopeful this year than last,and that’s a good thing.
by dolphinfan4lyfe on May 6, 2011 10:14 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Space bar after the comma, please.
by tdecker on May 7, 2011 12:53 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Grammer Gestapo!!
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Draft *Robert Quinn* for Wake's sake."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
that was a hard read
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Not looking for a great success
I have been vocal about not liking the last draft, (or any for a long time…) I think this is just another failed move at trying to be safe which will come back to bit them. I think we will suck again this year, (except for defies and I think they are going to be sensational) and we will be looking at a new HC and FO for the following year. I don’t see any improvement at QB yet, and don’t think DT is the kind of runner that will light many fires. In fact he seems perfect to pair with Henne’s many INT’s. So we have a QB who throws more INT’s than TDs and a RB who has 11 fumbles in 2 year… Sounds like a pair to me.
Our Defense will keep us in the race this year and....
if Henne just doesn’t LOSE games for us we’ll make the Playoffs. Pouncey Thomas and Gates bring in enough to take the burden off Henne but the pressure of making the types of mistakes that cost us the game are still on Henne.
I look for our Defense to be in the top 3 this year and hopefully our Offense will be in the middle of the pack…
I don't know what to think of Thomas...
…but in that Nebraska video I see a lot of “3 yards and a cloud of dust thing” that Sparano said we’re not about. Even in the “highlight” clip of Thomas (i.e. the one with just him making big plays), you could drive my grand-dad’s Buick through most of those holes in the line…
But I digress — football is a team and system game, so we just have to see how he fits in to the scheme. The sum, my friends, can be greater than the parts.
really hating how we were supose to go into this draft with a different offensive philosophy
and just ended up doing more of the same. Thomas is almost a carbon copy of Ronnie…And tell me this, how many touchdowns could ronnie/ricky have had last year, but lacked the speed to go the distance and caught from behind? Those posessions, that should have been TD’s with the right personell, turned into field goals or a Henne INT which cost us close games.
But no, we just continue to follow our same, dated philosophy.
Payback?
We tried to trade up to get you douche.
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His rookie name tag.....
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Draft *Robert Quinn* for Wake's sake."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
Yes but does it stick?
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by wild zion beaver on May 6, 2011 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions
sphincter
Says what ? Revenge ? Payback ?
Sure, luck means a lot in football. Not having a good quarterback is bad luck.
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Cayote ugly!
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by wild zion beaver on May 8, 2011 2:23 AM EDT up reply actions
I was not a big fan of the Thomas pic but since he is a fin I have to show some support
Maybe if we bring in Sproles or a speed back to compliment him then it will be a pretty good 1-2 punch but still the only thing I see from watching him is that he seems to have pretty good vision…thats about it.
I do not see a guy who is elusive enough to break 30+yard td’s or many tackles for that matter ,he gets caught from behind way too much and seems to just give up on runs and for a so called power back he gets taken down too easy not to mention a power back one on one with a corner or saftey in the open field does not stop running why Thomas does this I do not know but a power back would lower that shoulder and run that SOB over.
God not to mention his upright style scares the crap out of me
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Hey Remember
Were not suppose to question our FO, after all, were only fans and they must know better than us!
Damn I forgot lol
But hey I think they made some decent pics and a couple big steals so I was pretty pleased overall just thought if we took a running back it would have been a more flashy speed type but there are still a couple out there we can still nab (hopefully so we can mix it up), but for the guy to only be a RB for 2 years Ill give him the BOD still has time to learn a thing or two.Also alot of people are saying Gates and Clay are big steals in the draft so who knows if Pouncey has the same or about the same impact his brother and Thomas pans out then this could be one of our best drafts overall in sometime also makes the FO look like a genius
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by Foy on May 6, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
1. That’s exactly how I feel about Thomas.
2. Our D has the potential to be the best. Our O just needs to be decent.
3. Hahaha. I like your words better Matty. Shula is right
4. Only way he sees time is if Brady goes down.
5. The Economy sucks.
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So what I'm hearing is Thomas is alot like Brandon Jacobs, just not as big, or fast , or strong, but he fumbles alot...Yeah!!!
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Just kidding ,hope he is the man here, we need one for a running back bad!!!
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Thomas
will do alot better with our O-line against pro defenses. KS’s QB wasn’t doing him any favors either. I’m a big fan of Shula. Parcells, not so much. He was just doing his job. He’s gone. Next. Mallett is a Pat now. He’ll be treated like a rival. It’ll make a good story for the MNF home opener. The camera will be on him. Maybe he’ll pull a Bryan Cox heh heh.
Sure, luck means a lot in football. Not having a good quarterback is bad luck.
~Don Shula~
Just 2 things
1.) This guy williamson said the exact same thing about henne last year, and obviously we know what happened with that
2.) I love gus johnson, but you have to remember that he was also the guy that described Chris Johnson as having “running from the cops speed” when covering a titans game
^ I find it hilarious, but I bet CBS didn’t
Somebody in Miami kiss Don Shula for me?
It’s about time somebody spoke up about the emperor’s clothes.
As for Thomas . . . yeah. I didn’t get it when they made the pick, but after a few days to think about it, I still don’t get it. Like I said before, to me he looks like a back who’s too big to be fast, too upright to be durable, and too easy to tackle. Just look at how many times he gets one-hand ankle-tackled in his own highlight video!
As others have already said, the big gains he picks up in the video are through holes you could sail a barge through.
And the fumbles. Okay, alright, that should be fixable, but, Jesus, Mary, and Joseph, there were better backs available who didn’t need fixing.
This reminds me of the Pat White pick. He’s a kid who’s neither fish nor fowl, but the Dolphins staff think they can turn him into something extremely effective. God help us if they’re wrong — or if the “extremely effective” thing they have in mind is a wildcat specialist.
Puzzled.
by urbino on May 6, 2011 10:08 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
agree with you on thomas
however, I think if we re-sign ronnie (since there quite similar backs) will help him develop
That being said, I really wish we got a guy with speed, cuz you just cant teach speed
When one picks a running back
Don’t you want to have a few tangibles…like speed, elusiveness, and ENDURANCE?
Seriously…do you want a speed guy? Runs 4.4 and weighs 197 lbs…or a back that runs 4.6 and weighs 225?
2 “tenths” of a second and 30 lbs heavier?
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by 54 on May 6, 2011 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Thomas is going to be a quality starter
better then what we have/had and a 1000 yard rusher that gets into the end zone. He is patient, good vision, north/south runner, that gets through small holes that hits the holes once they open. Gates will cause the saftey to hold and open up Marshall while delivering the long ball on occasion. I like what little I have seen of Clay but he is a crap shot if he is going to be a Colley type or not.
2 new rbs for 2011. Ryan Williams and DeMarco Murray???? I like. If we can trade down in first and get a 2nd or another 3rd *wink*
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One cut runner, quick feet, slower than normal 40, under the radar to some. Kinda sounds like Arian Foster (4.69 pro day) coming out of UT? I think I would b happy with similar production.
by krandolph410 on May 7, 2011 12:38 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I would have been happy getting Daniel Thomas for what they gave for Arian Foster.
..totally satisfied.
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I saw a North/South back who looks durable and can play every down.
Nutten a "triple Exspresso" & a slice of that (key-lime pie) wont fix!
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by wild zion beaver on May 10, 2011 11:16 PM EDT reply actions
Sounds delicious!
I could go for a nice slice of authentic Key-lime and a good Cuban coffee right about now. Can not find that around here.
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by texascowpunk on May 11, 2011 4:35 AM EDT up reply actions
We got this cuban shop down-town!
Ps real nice!
* I’ll be thinking hehehe*
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by wild zion beaver on May 11, 2011 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah not a lot of that in Fort Worth Texas.
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by texascowpunk on May 11, 2011 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions
The heck with Fort Worth, B open your "own shop" I Garentee the (late nite people) will show-up!
Buddy if you know how to make a ham & cheese, the exspesso will be a hit, police might show up have plenty of donutts. Not sure; Bacon mite be the first to show up!
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by wild zion beaver on May 13, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I think I am short a few chefs that know how to make Cuban food.
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"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
Apple has a new anti-sexting feature. Brett Favre, you going to want to get the Android!
by texascowpunk on May 13, 2011 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Go to the libary, watch "chanel 29" they have a cooking show to die for!
Damn just do it!
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by wild zion beaver on May 14, 2011 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I doubt the channel 29 here is the same there.
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
Apple has a new anti-sexting feature. Brett Favre, you going to want to get the Android!
by texascowpunk on May 15, 2011 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Okeydokey then tuff guy; head rite on over to said libary, find a book on how you cook a (cuban) Ham & cheese sandwhich's!
Any-way bacon will enjoy the Coffie & donutts, hell you got me wanting to cum see your place!
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by wild zion beaver on May 15, 2011 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions
LOL Yeah I think I will pass. I can just get my fix when I am back home.
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by texascowpunk on May 15, 2011 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Just a thought!
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by wild zion beaver on May 15, 2011 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions

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