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Inside the Miami Dolphins '11 Draft Class: Daniel Thomas

When the Miami Dolphins traded up into the end of round two, surrendering multiple draft picks to essentially move up 17 spots, many were assuming it was going to be a certain quarterback whose name was called. However, the apple of Jeff Ireland's eye was actually Kansas State running back Daniel Thomas - who was the 3rd or 4th back on most teams' draft boards.

And we learned that Ireland and the Dolphins were indeed correct with their feeling that the Bengals would have taken Thomas at the top of round three if Miami didn't make their aggressive move up the board to nab their guy. Since his selection, though, fans have been torn on Thomas. What kind of back will the 6'0, 230 pound Thomas be? We've heard comparisons to Ronnie Brown, Steven Jackson, and (my favorite) Eddie George.

So what kind of kid did the Dolphins get when they drafted Thomas?

"Great kid. Doesn’t smoke, doesn’t drink, doesn’t party," Kansas State offensive coordinator Dana Dimel told the Palm Beach Post. "Just a good kid from a good family. I think everybody down there is going to like him."

As far as his ability on the field, Dimel says he sees a little Adrian Peterson in him, as well as Jamal Lewis and Steven Jackson.

"I’ve told [Kansas State coach] Bill Snyder he kind of reminds me of Peterson, in that he’s such a natural. And he runs extremely hard, which is where Lewis and Jackson come in."

But Dimel is not exactly an impartial party here. So I decided to turn to SBN's excellent Kansas State blog, Bring On The Cats, to get some additional perspective on Daniel Thomas. Below is what Tye Burger, manager of BOTC, had to say about the Miami Dolphins' new running back. And in all seriousness, you won't find a better scouting report ever on Thomas:

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Daniel Thomas, RB, Kansas State University
Junior Season, 2008-2009: 247 carries (20.6/game), 1,265 yards, 5.1 yards/carry, 11 TD, 105.4 yards/game
Senior Season: 2009-2010: 298 carries (22.9/game), 1,585 yards, 5.3 yards/carry, 19 TD, 121.9 yards/game

First of all, forgive me, I'm nominally a Chiefs fan who doesn't follow the NFL especially carefully. Living where I've lived -- Nebraska, Kansas, Texas and Missouri -- the NFL takes a back seat to college football.

Reading the comments at The Phinsider has shown me a decidedly mixed reaction to the Dolphins' decision to trade up and draft Thomas late in the second round. And "mixed" may be generous. A lot of you are worried that Thomas is too slow, too upright, too un-durable, too fumble-prone, and not sufficiently powerful given his lack of speed.

All of this may be correct. I'm sure you want the K-State "insider" to come riding in on his purple horse and tell you everything will be alright. While I'd like to do that, and while I think Thomas could be a solid player in the NFL, I can't make any guarantees. I've read through a couple of your comment threads reacting to the Thomas pick, so I've picked out some of the concerns expressed and will respond to them.

First, I'll start with the positives. While Daniel Thomas is not the flashiest back, and has no particular attribute that stands out, he just gets the job done. His stats for his two seasons at K-State are listed above, and he led the Big 12 in rushing both seasons. He averaged more than one rushing touchdown per game for his career. And he did that all playing for a team with this guy at quarterback in 2009-10, or in 2008-09 a guy whose shoulder was hanging on by a few muscle fibers and wishful thinking. To illustrate the point, in 2008-09, Thomas put up the numbers he did with two quarterbacks who combined for six touchdown passes and eight interceptions. The Wildcats would have been only slightly worse throwing the ball had I been out there at QB.

As a point of comparison, I've seen some Phinsider members point out that they would have preferred picking Oklahoma State's Kendall Hunter over Thomas. I can't argue against Hunter, who is a fine back. But Hunter played on a team with Brandon Weeden at QB (342/511, 34 TDs, 13 INTs, 329 yards/game) and Justin Blackmon at wide receiver (111 receptions, 1,782 yards, 20 TDs, 148.5 yards/game in only 12 games). Hunter had weapons all over the field around him, while Thomas had none of that. Every defense that K-State faced knew that Thomas was going to get the ball at least 1/3 of the time. Beyond that, opposing defenses really had no fear that anyone else would beat them, especially after shattered leg bones ended the seasons of our two best wide receivers.

Another issue that I've seen is Thomas' durability. During the pre-draft, there was some question that a hamstring injury was nagging Thomas, and suddenly everyone was wondering if he had the wherewithal to be an NFL back. One of our beat writers did some digging and found that the hamstring injury may have been due to dehydration. Whether you buy that or not, I'd put more stock in Thomas' body of work over two full season of football, rather than one offseason. In two seasons, Thomas carried the ball 545 times and didn't miss any playing time. Rumor was that he had a bum shoulder during his junior season, but if he did, he powered through it and led the Big 12 in rushing. Reasonable minds can disagree, but I'd rather have a player who I know can play through injuries than a player who sits out with a hangnail.

Before I get to Thomas' possible downside, there's one more positive to address. Again, I'm not a big NFL fan, but if I'm remembering correctly -- and I drink beer, like, every night, so my memory is failing me -- Miami was the first NFL team to implement the Wildcat formation, and still uses it to some degree. If that's the case, then Thomas is the prototype running back for Miami. K-State ran the Wildcat fairly often, always with Thomas taking the snap. Thomas was a quarterback in junior college before he came to K-State. He doesn't have the most accurate arm, but he's better at completing a pass than your average running back, and his familiarity with the quarterback position makes him comfortable taking snaps and executing fakes in the backfield. Last season, he completed four of his eight pass attempts, unfortunately throwing one interception against his only touchdown. In any event, he's a credible passing threat who opposing defenses will have to take seriously, even if most of what he does out of the Wildcat formation is run a midline option or sweep.

But enough of the positives, let's look at the causes for concern with Thomas. One that I've seen over and over is Thomas' ball security issues. I can't find statistics on it, but suffice to say that putting the ball on the turf was a concern with Thomas in his two years at K-State. As a natural quarterback, Thomas had to work through a tendency to carry the ball too loosely. Things seemed to improve as time wore on, and while again I don't have any stats on it, my feeling was that Thomas did a much better job of protecting the pigskin by the end of last season. How that translates to the NFL is anyone's guess. Maybe Thomas has worked on his technique and this will be a thing of the past, but it's an open question at this point.

Another criticism I've seen repeatedly is that Thomas lacks burst. This is absolutely true. Thomas is not an explosive runner who is likely to put his outside foot down and blow by an entire defense. He's more of a grinder, a guy who you can give the ball to a lot and will pick his away around for three yards here, two yards here, and six yards here. He averaged 5.2 yards per carry for a career in which every defense he faced expected him to get the ball on almost every play. While he's not a home-run hitter, he is very patient, he is very good at reading his blocks, and he will make the best of the situation in which he finds himself. If that means he has to fight to the death for two yards, then he'll do it. If it means that he can bounce a run outside for a 20+ yard gain, he can do that, too. While I know that everyone likes the home-run hitter, there's a place for the guy who doesn't hit for power, but hits for average and a high OBP.

Finally, no discussion of Thomas would be complete without mentioning his running style. Again, as a former quarterback, I agree that Thomas tend to run very upright. Running upright never seemed to be a problem for Thomas in college, as he never missed a game, or any real playing time, to injury. But I can see why this is an area of concern. Upright runners tend to get shredded in the NFL. Look no further than Ron Dayne, a humongous bruiser whose career was sidetracked by high-ankle sprains. Other than working on ball security, I think keeping pad level down will be Thomas' biggest area to work on. At 6'2", 228 lbs., Thomas was big enough in college that he could match up physically with most linebackers, and overpower any defensive backs. Beyond that, he's just shifty enough that he can avoid big hits. That may not be the case in the NFL, so he'll have to learn new ways to protect himself, and keeping his pads down will be a priority.

So that pretty much sums it up for what I have to say about Thomas. We really enjoyed watching Thomas play at K-State, and if we hadn't had him, it's highly unlikely that K-State would have posted an overall winning record (barely) the past two seasons. No matter what his other limitations may be, you'll never be able to say that Thomas didn't give you maximum effort on every play. Whether he has the talent to make that effort translate into the production you're looking for from a second-round draft pick is still anyone's guess.

I'm sure my thoughts above have generated as many new questions as they've answered. If you have a specific question that wasn't answered, post it in the comments and I'll do my best to getting you a response.


Again, I want to thank Tye for an absolutely tremendous scouting report on Daniel Thomas. Seriously, this was outstanding. And if you want more info on Kansas State athletics, do head over to Bring On The Cats - the very best K-State site you will ever find.

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by phatfinfan on May 12, 2011 6:12 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

thanks for your efforts

I enjoyed the post. The guy is big so he should be a load if he gets his pads low. Thanks again.

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by phatfinfan on May 12, 2011 6:14 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Much appreciated

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by PhrozenPhish on May 12, 2011 6:56 AM EDT reply actions  

Thanks for the Input!

I think we’re going to be pleasantly surprised with him.

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by cordy_1971 on May 12, 2011 7:03 AM EDT reply actions  

Well played sir!

Excellent analysis. I know I look forward to seeing what Thomas has to offer.

by MrSmithers on May 12, 2011 9:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Thanks Tye for the excellent perspective and write up.

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by texascowpunk on May 12, 2011 9:03 AM EDT reply actions  

Thank you

I have little to no concerns about Thomas and other then Ryan Williams is the back I wanted in Miami

2 new rbs for 2011. Ryan Williams and DeMarco Murray???? I like. If we can trade down in first and get a 2nd or another 3rd *wink*

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by Blaze453 on May 12, 2011 9:05 AM EDT reply actions  

Thanks

I think a Reggie Bush, Deangelo Williams, or a Jerius Norwood would be the perfect complimentary speed back to be paired with Thomas. Then go get Palmer and watch out boys and girls- Here come the Fins- Get prepared to hear Aaaaaaright Miami a lot from up above!!

by miamimike71 on May 12, 2011 9:16 AM EDT reply actions  

but Palmer was just barely above CH7 in deep pass completions!

So how is he an upgrade?

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by PhinsTifosi on May 12, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I have a lot of concerns about how Thomas will translate into the NFL

He’s got 4.0 YPC carry “Meh” back written all over him. But let’s give him the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise. The draft is over and he’s the player Jeff Ireland selected.

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by zeusmith on May 12, 2011 9:26 AM EDT reply actions  

I'll take 4.0 ypc all day long - 1st dn - 4 yds, 2nd dn - 4 yds, 3rd & 2 - 4 yds = 1st dn - 4 yds and so on.

Isn’t that how you wear down the D?

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by PhinsTifosi on May 12, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah thats what we wound up doing to the Colts a few years back!

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by wild zion beaver on May 13, 2011 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ronnie had

 3.7 YPC. The RB needs to have enough carries to make that average turn into a bunch of yards. Yards per carry mean nothing unless they translate into a bunch of total yards. I loved Ronnie. Carries are the goal now. Thomas is a young guy. He needs 200-250 carries times 3.7 or above to get alot of yards. 1000 yards is a goal, but, I think he’ll do better. He will need alot of carries to eclipse Ronnie. Nicky crunched the numbers to show how he could get a 1250 yard season. Still, Thomas will need to get the carries to achieve that.

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by Zsnoop on May 13, 2011 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

He can't be putting the rock, on the turff offten!

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by wild zion beaver on May 15, 2011 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

There's nothing "meh" about 4 yards a carry

That’s solid production, and those are the guys you can count on, build on.

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by Brooklynfinfan on May 12, 2011 11:07 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

Its meh production for a run first team

There are a TON of backs in the NFL who average 4.0 carry. If that’s all were getting, we shouldn’t have wasted a high pick. Not slagging Thomas but 4.0 carry would be a disappointment in my eyes considering we could have just signed a Pierre Thomas (if he’s released) or whoever to do the same.

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by zeusmith on May 12, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

If you're a run first team

And average 4.0 YPC, you’re doomed. If you’re a Indy or SD, 4.0 becomes acceptable.

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by zeusmith on May 12, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

I just don't think that's the case.

You’re thinking, what, 5 yards a clip? Or a Chris Johnson level 6? Those are great, and premier backs will get that and hopefully DT becomes a premier back. But if he’s getting 4 YPC than he’s consistently putting us in favorable down and distance situations, which is more than we could manage last year.
A lot of pass first teams actually end up with high YPC, because they do it rarely and in advantageous situations, like draws, etc. Run first teams usually earn their YPCwith consistent positive yards (stellar talents like CJ2K and Barry Sanders being an exception), rather than by mixing in long runs with a bunch of no gains. DT looks to be a consistent positive yards kind of guy.

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by Brooklynfinfan on May 12, 2011 2:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

But if he’s getting 4 YPC than he’s consistently putting us in favorable down and distance situations, which is more than we could manage last year.

Ronnie Brown averaged 3.7 YPC last year with a bad OL. ANd that was the worst year of his career. Not saying 4.0 YPC is particularly bad, it’s just MEH. Especially so with an offense geared towards running the ball. 4.0 YPC from Thomas won’t be any different than we can get in FA or Brown. It’s servicable but just OK – and thats the point I originally made.

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by zeusmith on May 12, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, 3.7 is meh or worse

But when he had a decent line and before yhe injuries Brown was much better than a ‘meh’ back. Frankly, if DT is what Brown was before the injuries I’m pumped about him.

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by Brooklynfinfan on May 12, 2011 2:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Only good backs avg 4.0 ypa or more.

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by uncle finster on May 15, 2011 6:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thank you!! very nicely done!!

i am not totally concerned about the upright style as i can name successful upright runners both past (Dickerson, Marcus Allen) and present (Steven Jackson). and before anyone says it ….. I am not at all saying this kid is as talented as any of those players – i am just saying – upright does not necessarily mean “won’t work in the NFL”.

the main area of concern for me is the ball security issues. Obviously the coaching staff must feel like they can fix that or else i am sure the GM would not have traded up to get him.

Love the fact that he can carry a big load and be successful in the BIG12 – thats what i like. hopefully he can do that on the next level as well.

by scrappy the wildcat on May 12, 2011 9:46 AM EDT reply actions  

I read somewhere that he doesn’t break alot of tackles for a guy his size . did you find that to be true?

by crableg on May 12, 2011 9:51 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

ditto.........

thanks for sharing your thoughts and observations Tye……..this is the one question mark that i have that you did not address…can you give us your take?…….thanks again

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by MagicDolphin on May 12, 2011 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

If that's true

Then Thomas will have to grow a set lower his shoulder more often and work on his balance. There’s no way he’ll survive in the NFL being a mid 4.6 runner who goes down on first contact. The size and speed is a huge step up from what he saw at K. State.

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by zeusmith on May 12, 2011 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

If you watch some highlights...

He breaks a quite a few tackles. The guy is tough to wrap up and brings the hit to the defense. Then again as mentioned that might not as work as well.

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by MeatGeek on May 13, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great scouting report

Thanks for this Matty and Tye

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by MoLimits on May 12, 2011 10:04 AM EDT reply actions  

The highlight vids I've been able to watch

Show some pretty impressive lateral agility, something Ronnie seriously lacks. This is an important quality in a one cut back—the ability to make that cut hard and fast. I feel like this is probably what folks are seeing when they talk about him being elusive for his size.

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by Brooklynfinfan on May 12, 2011 10:05 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Yes! That's what I saw too.

I believe in the wildcat it will work wonderfully….

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by Alpha6 on May 12, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ronnie has great lateral agility, just sayin.

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by uncle finster on May 15, 2011 6:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

thanks for a great POST

…..Another criticism I’ve seen repeatedly is that Thomas lacks burst. This is absolutely true. "……THIS is what scares me the most…. All the good defenses can deal with a “slow” power back easily, even if he is getting decent yards per carry, come 3rd down when Miami telegraphs the same old running play – DEF’s like PITTS, NE, NYJ, & Ravens will punish him most likely…. You need to be “shifty” and have some breakaway speed, plus our OLINE needs to open up big holes so he can get “started” with this lack of burst. Hit a big back at the line when he has no “MO” and stop in dead in his tracks. SOUNDS TO ME LIKE ITS ON THE oline NOW MORE THAN EVER….
I Will support him B/C he is a dolphin ! but not excited at all, and dont even tell me he is close to AP – that’s a false statement….

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by 62Lou on May 12, 2011 10:15 AM EDT reply actions  

“and dont even tell me he is close to AP – that’s a false statement….”

So lou, can I borrow your crystal ball for a few days?

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by PhinsTifosi on May 12, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sure... ;o)

Does that mean you think he is close to the great AP as a runner ?

I don’t think anyone would call me a “konw it all” …for that comment but who knows ? a lot of people hate it when you are critical of any FO decisions (not saying you are one) like draft picks etc…but I think 7-9 back to back speaks for itsself…. 14-18 sounds worse dosent it ?

IF I put 2 years of work together like that – I would be unemployed I think.

If you compare 14-18 to a college students grades if would have to be below a C average…
I would say that a “C” average would equal no worse than .500 record. (8-8)

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by 62Lou on May 12, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

a lot of people hate it when you are critical of any FO decisions (not saying you are one) like draft picks etc

Yeah, I hate that. I’m not a pessimist by nature but a realist. I give credit where it’s due and criticize where it’s due also. The Daniel Thomas optimists are just as guilty of “looking into the crystal ball” as well. The truth is, no one knows until the games are played. Both sides have an opinion and nothing more.

After weighing the evidence, I’m just not enamored with Thomas, or the Dolphins draft in general. Doesn’t mean I’ll keep bitching about it, but I won’t shut up either when giving my opinion, because that’s exactly what the optimists are doing as well.

Like you Lou, just call it as I see it – good or bad. Right now, a playoff spot is not looking so good.

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by zeusmith on May 12, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

My opinion is . . . well, MY opinion. My comment was that until we have seen him on the NFL field

no one can say that some measure of comparo with AP is false – because the original statement wasn’t that he is:

“I’ve told [Kansas State coach] Bill Snyder he kind of reminds me of Peterson, in that he’s such a natural.” Sorry, I read that EXACTLY as it was said, that he REMINDS the coach of AP, not that he is even close to AP. (Besides our D stopped AP on the goal line last year, so I do not want an AP clone!)

My opinion is that this FO knows a hell of a lot more about the game AND this team’s needs, strengths & weaknesses than I. I would not have drafted any of this QB class (except maybe Ponder – I love the CP10 comparos, cause I love what CP10 did for this team and the person as well), nor would I have picked Ingram at 15, because I think (IMHO) that the OL was a greater need. We will find out in time if Pouncey is a perinneal Pro Bowler like Long. Just my opinion.

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by PhinsTifosi on May 12, 2011 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

This ^^^

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by PhrozenPhish on May 13, 2011 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its a bad comparison,

AP is FAST, he doesn’t physically match up with any of the players mentioned so comparisons are bad, he is compared with AP because of his “uprite” running style, and remember that AP is the exception not the rule.

You want a comparison, Arian Foster, thats a fair comparison.

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by uncle finster on May 15, 2011 6:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed,

comparisons to AP, SJ and EG are ridiculous.

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by uncle finster on May 15, 2011 6:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

TBH,I didnt have this kid on my radar

We drafted him,then I looked at highlights,and while impressive,it doesn’t show everything. I want to see how many times he was stopped for negative yards. As for his inability to break the first tackle,I saw him doing a bunch of just that on his highlights,I want to know how often he did that. How well does he handle running outside of the tackles? As opposed to in between? He can throw out of the backfield,but how good is he at catching?

by dolphinfan4lyfe on May 12, 2011 10:33 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

"... but how good is he at catching?"

That’s the option I most like in a back. It would be tremendous if he can catch out of the back field, in the flats, etc…

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by Alpha6 on May 12, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Great question and an actual real question from Alpha.

Must be time to go play the lottery again.

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by texascowpunk on May 12, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

You mean Alpha posited a real comment/question

And not some one-liner filled with sexual innuendo or crude filler? I’m shocked I tell you, shocked!

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by zeusmith on May 12, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

It happens he he gets his head out of the gutter every now and again.

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by texascowpunk on May 12, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fine. I won't joke anymore.

I just used it as an outlet. I needed it.
If I didn’t joke, then i couldn’t handle my real life.

But so be it. Sour asses!!

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"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"

by Alpha6 on May 12, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lighten up brother. Don't ever let one comment change who you are.

I would have to personally fly out and check on you if you stopped your jokes because I would know something was wrong.

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by texascowpunk on May 12, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dude, I wasn't slaggin' ya

I was just busting your balls. Where would we be without you and the Beav slinging dirty innuendo??

2011 NFL Draft - Doplhins

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by zeusmith on May 12, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I bust a nut with sometimes with that

By all means, keep it coming

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Trade Down from #15

1st - 1a) Colin Kaepernick, 1b) Ryan Mallett (QB)

by zeusmith on May 12, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

The real genius that is Beaver is his patented Beaver Speak.

"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
Apple has a new anti-sexting feature. Brett Favre, you going to want to get the Android!

by texascowpunk on May 12, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Where wood we bee's

without him? Dam!

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by Flip-her on May 13, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Less enlightened!

"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
Apple has a new anti-sexting feature. Brett Favre, you going to want to get the Android!

by texascowpunk on May 13, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

HA!!!!!!!!!!!

got all of ya…..

I wouldn’t let two stupid dogs stop me.
Besides, I don’t want to go to war with Tex.
I figured you guys were just giving it back to me for all the ones I gave out….

"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Draft *Robert Quinn* for Wake's sake."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"

by Alpha6 on May 12, 2011 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL You know I would never start a war with one of my friends here Alpha.

"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
Apple has a new anti-sexting feature. Brett Favre, you going to want to get the Android!

by texascowpunk on May 12, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL... I know that.

I meant you coming out here and trying to kick my ass…..

(I appreciate that you would come out to check on me)

"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Draft *Robert Quinn* for Wake's sake."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"

by Alpha6 on May 12, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I would never try and kick your ass. Not a violent person by nature.

"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
Apple has a new anti-sexting feature. Brett Favre, you going to want to get the Android!

by texascowpunk on May 12, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Alright, alright,... sheesh

I’ll go kick his ass.
;^J

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by uncle finster on May 15, 2011 6:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

This on the onther hand would of course be fine with me.

"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
Apple has a new anti-sexting feature. Brett Favre, you going to want to get the Android!

by texascowpunk on May 15, 2011 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

lol

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by uncle finster on May 15, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I figured you guys were just giving it back to me for all the ones I gave out….

Haha, you know it Big fella

2011 NFL Draft - Doplhins

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by zeusmith on May 12, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just used it as an outlet. I needed it.
If I didn’t joke, then i couldn’t handle my real life.

What’s wrong with your real life?

2011 NFL Draft - Doplhins

Trade Down from #15

1st - 1a) Colin Kaepernick, 1b) Ryan Mallett (QB)

by zeusmith on May 12, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

He has a lot of problems lately. But things will come around for him Cuz he’s trying to keep his head up.

Kacy Rodgers Our D-Line Coach. Got to give him some credit.
Rusty Smith! (Titans future qb)
Play to win

by 54 on May 12, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Amen. Alpha is a good man and he will fight through!

"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
Apple has a new anti-sexting feature. Brett Favre, you going to want to get the Android!

by texascowpunk on May 12, 2011 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank you!

"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Draft *Robert Quinn* for Wake's sake."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"

by Alpha6 on May 12, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Any time brother.

"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
Apple has a new anti-sexting feature. Brett Favre, you going to want to get the Android!

by texascowpunk on May 12, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

the offer stands.

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by Flip-her on May 13, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's the offseason and we might not have football this coming season

And the Lakers are out of the playoffs and my chick is always getting mad at me! Aaaaghh! I feel ya Alpha!

by Redeyedbandit on May 13, 2011 2:34 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

LOL Damn right the Lakers are out. Go Mavs!

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"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
Apple has a new anti-sexting feature. Brett Favre, you going to want to get the Android!

by texascowpunk on May 13, 2011 7:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Can I love your signature...

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by MeatGeek on May 13, 2011 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sure!

"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
Apple has a new anti-sexting feature. Brett Favre, you going to want to get the Android!

by texascowpunk on May 13, 2011 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Horrible game 1, losing that 16 point lead

Lost us the series. Game 2 was the worst playoff game I saw the Lakers play in a long time. Game 3 was the best of the series IMO, even though we lost an 8 point lead with 4 minutes left. And why the hell does Odom have the ball the last 2-3 possessions of that game? And Bynum didn’t get any touches the 4th quarter of that game! Stupid! And game 4, well, that was just a massacre, Mothers Day Massacre is what I call it. I knew we were gonna lose but not by 36 points, thought by 12 or 13. Oh well, can’t win the title every year.

by Redeyedbandit on May 13, 2011 6:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

It was a weird series. I knew going in that the Lakers were a

good match up for the Mavs but never would have guessed a sweep. It was like Dirk all of a sudden decided at the end of the two close games that he was not going to let them loose. As far as game four goes it is sad that some of the Lakers started showing their ass and could not loose with some class like you expect from a champion. I will give props to Kobe who did act with class at the end of that game which is what I expected from him.

"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
Apple has a new anti-sexting feature. Brett Favre, you going to want to get the Android!

by texascowpunk on May 13, 2011 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah it was, thought would have been Lakers in six

Dirk, Terry and Barea each had big games. Everyone keeps saying Dallas D came up big, but to me it was so-so, Gasol looked like crap all series. And what Odom and Bynum did was real chicken sh!t. Didn’t think Artest deserved to be suspended for game 3. This team was so up and down this season.

by Redeyedbandit on May 14, 2011 2:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I think when you hold the Lakers to the point totals they did in a couple of those games they played ok to good defense.

They have always been a terrible defensive team. They can now at least play some defense. As far as Artest thats what he gets with his rep. Just how it goes.

"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
Apple has a new anti-sexting feature. Brett Favre, you going to want to get the Android!

by texascowpunk on May 14, 2011 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, what 54 said.

My life right now is not in the best shape.
Lots of emotions tearing me apart.

And as it’s always, there’s a woman involved.
But, I’m trying to stay amongst the living.
It’s an experience I’m going through… guess it’s my turn.
Without going into much detail.
Day by day for me right now.

"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Draft *Robert Quinn* for Wake's sake."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"

by Alpha6 on May 12, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Woman, issue Alpha?

Yeah, they suck… we’ve all been there. So let me do my part in helping you pull through:

Feel Better yet?? You’re welcome.

2011 NFL Draft - Doplhins

Trade Down from #15

1st - 1a) Colin Kaepernick, 1b) Ryan Mallett (QB)

by zeusmith on May 12, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

If I may chime in-

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"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
Apple has a new anti-sexting feature. Brett Favre, you going to want to get the Android!

by texascowpunk on May 12, 2011 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Holy...

Now that’s amazing!!!

Ty.

"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Draft *Robert Quinn* for Wake's sake."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"

by Alpha6 on May 12, 2011 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

what was this post about again?

some NT?

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by Patssuck456 on May 13, 2011 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh. I thought it was about cheerleaders.

"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
Apple has a new anti-sexting feature. Brett Favre, you going to want to get the Android!

by texascowpunk on May 13, 2011 7:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

HEY....My life sucks too!! lol

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by Flip-her on May 13, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

They are for everyone to look at. Even you sir.

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"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
Apple has a new anti-sexting feature. Brett Favre, you going to want to get the Android!

by texascowpunk on May 13, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Was a joke, sir.

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Why can't women put on mascara with their mouth closed?
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by Flip-her on May 13, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

WoooHooo!!!

Good man…

"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Draft *Robert Quinn* for Wake's sake."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"

by Alpha6 on May 12, 2011 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah, credit, where credit is due........

Sorry…

"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Draft *Robert Quinn* for Wake's sake."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"

by Alpha6 on May 12, 2011 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's good at catching the ball,

but he does have “assignment” problems in the passing game, again like AP had.

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by uncle finster on May 15, 2011 6:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the questions, sorry for the slow response

I can’t find any stats on the number of carries he had for negative yards. In 2010, he lost a total of 30 yards rushing on the season, which doesn’t seem bad given 298 carries. In 2009, he lost a total of 25 yards rushing on the season, on 247 carries.

Thomas isn’t a bad receiver out of the backfield. In two years, he caught 52 passes for 428 yards (8.2/reception). He was pretty good on taking swing passes out in the flat, and it was fun to watch him make little cornerbacks miserable.

I’m probably not the best guy to dissect whether Thomas was a better runner between the tackles or outside the tackles. He’s a big guy who isn’t shy about contact, so he’s pretty effective between the tackles. But when he bounces outside, he’s usually matched up against a smaller CB or safety. He has some pretty good moves between his hurdle move and the spin cycle he busted out against Iowa State last year. Beyond that, he has pretty quick hips, and is really good at doing juuuust enough to avoid contact, or to minimize contact to the point where he can break a tackle.

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by TB on May 13, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank you,and tbh,it does help me feel better about the pick

Honestly,I tend to worry once some of the media begins to hype one of our picks. Usually we get a bunch of criticism,but tbh,the front office the front office did fairly well in taking 10 picks and plugging 6 holes. Four of which seem to be able to make an immediate impact.

The lack of speed at the runningback position isn’t as bad to me as it is to some,what we got is a threat to keep defenses honest. Meaning all 11 guys need to be accounted for. Not only that,but seems like the few that actually got a peek at the playbook seemed to be psyched about its contents. That alone is enough to keep me psyched.

Thank you for taking the time to answer the questions,and give us an in depth look at what seems to be a good pickup by this organization

by dolphinfan4lyfe on May 15, 2011 10:52 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Great input

but u made a MISTAKE.
Wildcat skills should be listed as a negative not a positive…

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by Davone_Is_BessT on May 12, 2011 10:36 AM EDT reply actions  

The wildcat was a positive 2 years ago when we made the playoffs

The Dolphins were often averaging 7 and 8 yards a play with it, and usually soundly beating the opposition with TOP and long drives. Helped us punch it in in goaline situations as well. I’m all for the wildcat if it can become productive like that again. The problem is, it became so predictable and it fizzled into oblivion.

If we do the wildcat again, I hope they have Thomas throwing it 8 times a year or so. The wildcat needs the pass threat or it becomes boxed in, and Henne was TERRIBLE in the red zone last year.

2011 NFL Draft - Doplhins

Trade Down from #15

1st - 1a) Colin Kaepernick, 1b) Ryan Mallett (QB)

by zeusmith on May 12, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

I feel like the fizzle was less a function of it's predictability

And more about the lack of ability from the oline and Polite. The WC at it’s best is a jumbo formation that gets more of our big guys on the field than the D, and then pounds them with it. When you’ve got guys like Berger or Incognito trying to get downfield instead of Smiley and Grove, or Lousaka missing every third block, you will not get big runs, no matter how unpredictable you are.

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by Brooklynfinfan on May 12, 2011 2:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

i was being sarcastic

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by Davone_Is_BessT on May 12, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Skills of any sort are a bonus

Ireland got this guy because he thinks he’s a solid RB, the WC us just a bonus. The WC, when we have the personel to run it (mobile linemen like Smiley was and Pouncey is) is an effective power running formation. And power running is the heart and soul of this offense.

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by Brooklynfinfan on May 12, 2011 11:18 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

i was being sarcastic

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by Davone_Is_BessT on May 12, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Aah, my bad.

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by Brooklynfinfan on May 12, 2011 3:35 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

yea lol most Dolphin fans are tired of the wildcat

we’ve already wasted a 2ND ROUND PICK on a wildcat player (Pat White, R.I.P).

If someone say’s we picked him over a better player because he had wildcat skills then I probably wouldn’t be the only one spewing hate and vulgarity toward our FO.

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by Davone_Is_BessT on May 12, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hell if this kid throws one td pass all year it's a bonus.

I don’t recall Ireland saying anything about his QB skills in terms of the Wildcat. I think they drafted him becasue he was a big, productive back.

Watching one of his highlight videos he looks like a hardrunning guy with a good lateral step who can make the first guy miss and then gets upfield in a hurry.

Check out his vertical at the 4:40 mark,,,the kid has some serious springs to put 230 lbs that high in the air.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBld17O-d8E

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by PhrozenPhish on May 13, 2011 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

PPthank you for the enjoyment I'm going to rec this, I hope we "get this green" cuz everyone needs to see!

The hight that was reach on the goal-line, is one that i haven’t seen in sum time. All time great the late Walter Payton, cum on lets make this green, (watch closely) as he makes only one goal-line jump.

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by wild zion beaver on May 15, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the great info Tye!

Just think how stupid the average Jest fan is, and then realize that half of them are even stupider! ( a parody of a George Carlin line)

by PhinsTifosi on May 12, 2011 10:49 AM EDT reply actions  

Well said. He’s a grinding back which is good to have. But I think most of us was expecting a speed back at some point in the draft.
I laughed at the Peterson comparison because both are fumblers and Thomas doesn’t have the same athletic ability. But at least they were comparing vision.
I really liked hearing he was the only weapon. It makes me feel a lot better about a player I feel asleep to while watching his highlight.

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by 54 on May 12, 2011 11:44 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

When his coach compared him to Pertersen I went

Whaaaaaa? But you’re right, he probably meant the fumbling part, because I didn’t see the explosiveness or will to not go down.

2011 NFL Draft - Doplhins

Trade Down from #15

1st - 1a) Colin Kaepernick, 1b) Ryan Mallett (QB)

by zeusmith on May 12, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s just a coach talking up his player. A lot of backs have great vision. But it takes vision plus unique athletic ability to at least make a Peterson comparison. Oh well, hopefully he makes me want to buy his jersey in the near future.

Kacy Rodgers Our D-Line Coach. Got to give him some credit.
Rusty Smith! (Titans future qb)
Play to win

by 54 on May 12, 2011 12:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Sarcasm box please......

"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Draft *Robert Quinn* for Wake's sake."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"

by Alpha6 on May 12, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Most excellent write up Tye Burger!!

Ty you Matty too….

"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Draft *Robert Quinn* for Wake's sake."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"

by Alpha6 on May 12, 2011 11:51 AM EDT reply actions  

I cant wait to finally have a Smash and Dash combo

in our backfield!

lets get bush, sproles or deanglo next!!

The Fish are no longer food

by PhinMan24 on May 12, 2011 1:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Why would we get Bush

When we drafted a slower, “powerful” primary back in Thomas? Makes more sense to get some speed if you’re not resigning Brown.

2011 NFL Draft - Doplhins

Trade Down from #15

1st - 1a) Colin Kaepernick, 1b) Ryan Mallett (QB)

by zeusmith on May 12, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like bush.... do you?

lol

"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Draft *Robert Quinn* for Wake's sake."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"

by Alpha6 on May 12, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I do but is that what they still call it these days with all the shaving?

"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
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by texascowpunk on May 12, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Break out the razor and a jar mayonaise!!!!!!!!

We’re going to dinner!!!!!!!

(what do you call a shaved beaver?)
(Women can’t look down and say, ‘you look good in a beard’)

"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Draft *Robert Quinn* for Wake's sake."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"

by Alpha6 on May 12, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
Apple has a new anti-sexting feature. Brett Favre, you going to want to get the Android!

by texascowpunk on May 12, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL!

2011 NFL Draft - Doplhins

Trade Down from #15

1st - 1a) Colin Kaepernick, 1b) Ryan Mallett (QB)

by zeusmith on May 12, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

And why when it is shaved (my fav btw) can they not say that A6?

ps – I wear a goatee some of the time, so yes shaved beaver DOES look good in a beard! lol

Just think how stupid the average Jest fan is, and then realize that half of them are even stupider! ( a parody of a George Carlin line)

by PhinsTifosi on May 12, 2011 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

lmao!

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by Dolfan88 on May 13, 2011 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

They may say, damn if you don't look good all covered in saliva!

Oh wait; there’s a bit of mayo over here!

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We often look rite past the positive's cuz the negative's-r-so hard they dominate!

by wild zion beaver on May 15, 2011 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Reggie is kinda fast...

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by Little Nicky 21 on May 15, 2011 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he was talking about Oakland's Bush

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by Farorefox on May 16, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

The leggy type?

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by wild zion beaver on May 16, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I doubt it

he was talking about a Smash and Dash concept, with DThomas being the Smash I’m presuming. Sproles and DeAngelo both have breakaway speed, it makes sense that Reggie would be the “Bush” he’s referring to.

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by Little Nicky 21 on May 16, 2011 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks

Tye for spending time to show us what you’ve seen in Thomas thus far.

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by Zsnoop on May 12, 2011 3:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Good article

But as I read it I saw that Thomas was 6’2" playing in college but we drafted him at 6’ even….If he’s losing height at that rate he’ll be his own bobblehead doll if he stays in the league long enough.

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by CanT0o on May 12, 2011 5:00 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

LOL!!!

I pictured that…

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by Alpha6 on May 12, 2011 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

by year 5 as short as Sproles!

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by PhinsTifosi on May 12, 2011 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha

To funny!

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by DaBlizad260 on May 12, 2011 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thx Tye

He’s 230 w/thighs as big as ECs but comparing combines of him and AP,for whatever that’s worth,he’s .01 slower in the 10 yd. dash but faster in the 3-cone and 20 yd. shuttle.First thing I noticed three weeks ago was Ds stacking and very small windows,to do what he did under those circumstances is very impressive IMO.

by yeahbaby on May 12, 2011 10:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Basically, Tye noticed the Dolfans are a bunch of whiners.

Its like that with every player, Tye. Not just Daniel Thomas.

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by AussieKen on May 12, 2011 10:18 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Are you in Australia?

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by Alpha6 on May 12, 2011 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not yet, man. I'm still working on it.

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by AussieKen on May 12, 2011 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I lived there once. Does that count?

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by texascowpunk on May 12, 2011 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Add my thanks to the list.

It’s always good to hear from somebody who’s really watched a player’s body of work.

I hope the positives you see translate to the NFL, the negatives are fixable, and he’s the second coming of Steven Jackson.

That’s what I hope. What I fear is that Ireland and Sparano still have wildcat on the brain, and that’s what drove this pick.

Puzzled.

by urbino on May 12, 2011 11:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Stephen Jackson ran a 4.55 / 40 I believe

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by zeusmith on May 13, 2011 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

This line made me hate the pick more.
He’s more of a grinder, a guy who you can give the ball to a lot and will pick his away around for three yards here, two yards here, and six yards here.

by BigPuma23 on May 13, 2011 10:49 AM EDT reply actions  

Why? We need a starter. If we can get a guy like Bush or Sproles, this is a great offseason for the HB position.

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by PotM on May 14, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks Matty for bringing in Tye

and Tye for your balanced opinion.
Looking foreward to watching him as he hits the new holes!

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by Flip-her on May 13, 2011 2:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Thanks for the compliments, everyone

Happy to hear you enjoyed the preview. I hope to see DT playing well for Miami for many years.

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by TB on May 13, 2011 4:21 PM EDT reply actions  

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