Miami Dolphins Top 10 Draft Busts: #4 Jamar Fletcher

I just remember my jaw hitting the floor

and then a profanity riddled tirade that followed for about 30 straight minutes. Good ol’ Stache and Spielman…best talent evaluators EVER!!!

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by Dragon27az on Apr 12, 2011 4:24 PM EDT reply actions

God I hope Wannstache dies of Pancreatic Cancer.

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by Patssuck456 on Apr 12, 2011 4:24 PM EDT reply actions

this may be a bit much

but he was the absolute worst coach ive ever seen.

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by BSerious72 on Apr 12, 2011 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions

Wannstedt had four winning seasons before he was shitcanned after a 1-8 start in ‘04. As much as Wanny was too predictable and too conservative on offense, Cam Camoron made Wannstedt look like a genius in comparison. . Say what you will about injuries in ’07; every team has key injuries. But when we play the Ravens if Matt Stover doesnt miss his OT FG attempt, we’re first to go 0-16 and the Lions are an afterthought.

Cameron was the absolute worst. And I’m not even talking about the Ginn pick.

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by CanT0o on Apr 12, 2011 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

Cameron was left with absolutely nothing on the roster

Jimmy Johnson left the keys of a successful team which Wannstedt and Speilman subsequently ran into a ditch

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by Souwantmyname on Apr 12, 2011 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions

Wannstedt inherited the best defense I have ever seen in Miami ....

And proceeded to lose with a crappy QB. He had a chance at Drew Brees but passed on him for another CB? How can you possibly defend that line of thinking?

by Damarys Scott on Apr 12, 2011 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions

PS....

I was born in 1976 so lay off me … I never saw those defenses you guys would want to talk about…

by Damarys Scott on Apr 12, 2011 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions

Wanny vs Cam

I choose Wanny as being the worst over Cam for one reason. Cam only had 1 year to set us back, though the season was full people mocking the Dolphins play and the “We drafted the Ginn family” speech.

Wanny on the other hand, had multiple years to set Miami back. In his 4 years, we only got Bell, Carey, McMichael, and Chambers as solid starters. At least with Cam, we got Soliai and Fields along with the Ginn family.

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by Finhead83 on Apr 13, 2011 7:38 AM EDT up reply actions

True. But who would you rather get hit by a car?

Wannstedt or Cameron?

by Redeyedbandit on Apr 14, 2011 3:31 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions

Wanny

If his personality is similar to his ultra-conservative offensive philosophy, he’d probably be too afraid to throw a punch. I think he’s the type of guy that would just throw his wallet on the ground and run away.

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by Finhead83 on Apr 14, 2011 7:34 AM EDT up reply actions

I don't know about you

but I’ve never thrown a punch at a moving car…

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by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 14, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions

Hmm..

I completely misread that question. I think my list would be:

1) Wanny
2) Saban
3) Cameron

I’d reward any driver that hits all three.

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by Finhead83 on Apr 14, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions

Saban at the top

just because he’s the biggest dickhead of them all.

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by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 14, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

so far this list is making me really happy about how Ireland and company are doing...

by dolphinfan4lyfe on Apr 12, 2011 4:32 PM EDT via mobile reply actions

cause Odrick has been so valuable

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by Souwantmyname on Apr 12, 2011 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions

You have to give him a chance at least

At least Long and Davis lived up to their potential as first round picks.

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by Finhead83 on Apr 12, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions

Indeed but the pick was still stupid

Going into last year’s draft we had Starks, Langford, Merling and McDaniel at DE. Its the same situation that was with Jamar Fletcher. There is NO reason what soever that a DE should have been taken in the 1st round when we were more than deep at the position

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by Souwantmyname on Apr 12, 2011 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions

The pick was in no way stupid considering they planned on moving Starks to NT...

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by joel311 on Apr 12, 2011 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions

Which was a stupid plan in the 1st place

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by Souwantmyname on Apr 12, 2011 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions

Especially in hindsight since Soliai played lights out at NT!

But then the FO should have known that he would. Right?

Just think how stupid the average Jest fan is, and then realize that half of them are even stupider! ( a parody of a George Carlin line)

by PhinsTifosi on Apr 12, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions

So your saying its a wise move to take a position your strong at (Starks at DE) and weaken it by moving him to a position he'd never played before at NT?

In doing so your basically weakening 2 positions. Yes I’m saying that is a stupid plan.

Solia had been on the team for years and had shown flashes. Its the coaches fault for not trusting themselves and the player to perform when given the oppurtunity

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by Souwantmyname on Apr 12, 2011 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions

you aren't talking about totally changing what the guy does...

You are just talking about where he is lining up…. Would I rather we go get a prototypical BIG NT in the draft… um .. yeah … but I am not ready to call Starks a weakness at any position along that D-line…. now if you are talking about moving him out to CB … well yeah … he is a weakness then ….

by Damarys Scott on Apr 12, 2011 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions

So you're suggesting...

we should have taken Taylor Mays or Sergio Kindle instead? Because one had a potentially career ending head injury and the other is terrible. They used the BPA model when they picked up Odrick. You can’t judge the pick in a negative light at all; Merling hasn’t lived up to they hype, they wanted to move Starks to NT because Soliai hadn’t done a damn thing yet either, and McDaniel is a situational guy. Not to mention Odrick’s injury before we got to see him do anything.

Oh, Misi turned out to be the right pick of Kindle too. But I suppose you think that pick sucked too?

by Fintastic4andMore on Apr 12, 2011 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions

Man you like to jump to conclusions

Where did i say anything about Mays or Kindle? I didnt like either player in the draft for you information. If I were drafting I would have taken Jahvid Best or Patrick Robinson. Both of which were huge needs for us at the time.

Also I’m not sold on the Misi pick. He never showed a pass rush in college and hasnt done much opposite Wake

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by Souwantmyname on Apr 13, 2011 2:53 AM EDT up reply actions

Starks

Actually, Starks was a DT before he was ever a DE with the Dolphins. Starks wasn’t a 3-4 NT, but he’s had a lot of experience playing inside on the line.

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by Finhead83 on Apr 13, 2011 7:41 AM EDT up reply actions

yeah.... because Soliai played so well the year before.....

I need to find one of my old posts on how bad he was that year….

by Damarys Scott on Apr 12, 2011 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions

Disagree.

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by joel311 on Apr 12, 2011 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions

*look up

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by Souwantmyname on Apr 12, 2011 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions

Picking Odrick

It may have been a little surprising, but it wasn’t stupid. Starks was converting to NT, which wasn’t a stupid move because they felt he could perform similar to Jay Ratliff and use athleticism to break the line. Merling was always an issue with his performance and it’s not like people were really comfortable with him starting.

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by Finhead83 on Apr 13, 2011 7:40 AM EDT up reply actions

totally AGREE !

I Hated the pick of Fletcher when we were DEEP at CB with 2 pro-bowlers already !
Last year was the same situation all over… We were DEEP at DE/DL and we need yet another DL ? No freakin way… You do NOT fix weakness that way. And Odrick is not an ELITE player, that ould have made sense… Plus add in his injury and we got NOTHING from this pick.

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by 62Lou on Apr 13, 2011 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions

I didn't know we base a bust on one year of injury.

How can you say we got nothing for the pick. He’ll be a solid starter from here on out. Considering how often a DL is rotated, I want as many good players there as possible.

by Cokes_03 on Apr 13, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions

Well...

He won the starting job way back in training camp and didn’t really look back. He had some solid games and I seem to recall him chasing down someone(please someone help me remember who) he had no business being able to chase down from behind as a DE. The guy got hurt early in the season and tried to come back too early and hopefully learned to never do that again. I think the guy is going to be solid for us for years to come.

by Damarys Scott on Apr 12, 2011 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions

Even labelling Odrick an early bust,2 out of three isnt bad

No matter how you look at it that’s still a 66.6% success rate in the first round.

In the second they are at about 50% a bit low,but not detrimentally so.

In round 3,we are down to about 33.3 percent

In the fourth we are back up to 66.6%

The fifth so far we are batting .1000

The sixth we managed to add depth that we then tore down on Oline,but we don’t even know what we have in the RB we picked.

The seventh round is an unknown,and really doesn’t matter,because no one expects to find a franchise player in the seventh

But ironically,its our undrafted rookies where these guys seem to flourish.

by dolphinfan4lyfe on Apr 12, 2011 10:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

Drew Brees

Not drafting Drew Brees is what I remember as such a huge mistake in this draft. Jamar Fletcher was not only a wasted pick, but to think we desparately needed a QB and failed to take Brees is unthinkable. Our draft mistakes during this time ranked right up there with the mid to late ’80’s.

by Bill29036 on Apr 12, 2011 4:33 PM EDT reply actions

I guess people dont remember the fact that Drew Brees SUCKED in SD up until the final year of his contract when SD had essentially “given up” on Brees and drafted Rivers.

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by Souwantmyname on Apr 12, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

They hadn't given up on Brees,

they drafted insurance. Just like a team always should when it comes to the QB position. If you have a young guy developing, you should still be drafting QBs every year to develop behind him until the first guy is actually a PROVEN stud.

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by joel311 on Apr 12, 2011 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions

Hahaha

the 4th overall pick is just “insurance”… that’s a good one

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by Souwantmyname on Apr 12, 2011 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions

That's like paying $27,000 for insurance each year to insure your $30,000 car.

Just think how stupid the average Jest fan is, and then realize that half of them are even stupider! ( a parody of a George Carlin line)

by PhinsTifosi on Apr 12, 2011 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs

haha spot on analogy

rec’d

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by Souwantmyname on Apr 12, 2011 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions

Yeah,

can’t really argue there. But they still let Brees start, so what does that say?

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by joel311 on Apr 12, 2011 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions

its called let Brees get destroyed for a year and bring Rivers along slowly

it just so happened Brees miraculously “got it together” in a contract year. Funny how that works

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by Souwantmyname on Apr 12, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions

I want what Souwantmyname's been smoking

Given up? Where did you come up with that revelation? Here’s the stats …

2005 San Diego Chargers 16 16 323 500 64.6 3,576 7.2 24 15 27 223 89.2 21 49 2.3 1 8 5
2004 San Diego Chargers 15 15 262 400 65.5 3,159 7.9 27 7 18 131 104.8 53 85 1.6 2 7 2
2003 San Diego Chargers 11 11 205 356 57.6 2,108 5.9 11 15 21 178 67.5 21 84 4.0 0 5 3
2002 San Diego Chargers 16 16 320 526 60.8 3,284 6.2 17 16 24 180 76.9 38 130 3.4 1 2 0
2001 San Diego Chargers 1 0 15 27 55.6 221 8.2 1 0 2 12 94.8 2 18 9.0 0 2 0

by Bill29036 on Apr 12, 2011 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

They gave up after the 03 year which is why they drafted philip Rivers

there is nothing to argue here. San Diego drafted Rivers because they thought Brees wasnt gonna be a good QB. Those numbers support that claim up until 04 when Brees put it all together ONCE RIVERS WAS ALREADY DRAFTED

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by Souwantmyname on Apr 12, 2011 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions

You must be joking

SD franchised Brees in 2005. Is that how you give up on a player?

by Bill29036 on Apr 12, 2011 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

Can you read?

I said SD gave up on Brees after the ’03 season which is why they drafted Rivers

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by Souwantmyname on Apr 13, 2011 2:55 AM EDT up reply actions

So you would agree?

By 2004 Brees was a stud, and SD, if they ever actually did “give up” on Brees, they most certainly had rescinded that feeling in 2004 and forward. The talk at the time Brees was drafted was that he was another Bob Griese – ala Purdue – QB the Dolphins could build upon. I’d say that, coupled with drafting Fletcher and NOT drafting Brees – we TOTALLY missed the mark.

Not sure what you dislike so much about four-time Pro Bowler Brees, but he is still playing well while Jamar Fletcher is selling insurance or something else.

by Bill29036 on Apr 13, 2011 8:12 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

Brees

I was hoping Miami would draft him, but of course Miami’s policy in Wanny’s era was that Miami shouldn’t have a first round pick, which is why we only had 2 first round picks in 5 years. So, the next best option to not having a first round pick, is to discard it on a poor choice. In the end, it was a huge mistake to pass up on Brees. Regardless of how poorly Brees started in SD, he was the 2nd highest QB prospect behind Vick and warranted being picked 26 overall.

I was actually happier with the decision to draft Chambers in the 2nd than I was with Fletcher in the 1st and even then I thought Chambers would end up being the better player.

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by Finhead83 on Apr 13, 2011 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions

Im conviced that Wanny's perfect game is 6-3

This is the man who said that his GAMEPLAN with an 8 point lead in the 2nd half is to run three times and punt. As badly as I wanted us to draft Reggie Wayne, it was just never going to happen. Wanny was absolutely against scoring points.

by Bender13 on Apr 12, 2011 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions

unfortunately

we are still in that rut.

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by Phintastic on Apr 13, 2011 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions

Miami missed on Brees

in round 1, AND in round 2. They could have drafted Reggie Wayne in round 1, and then taken Brees in the 2nd. How’s that smell?

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by DolphinNation on Apr 12, 2011 4:33 PM EDT reply actions

Brees was the first pick in round 2

we only missed him once, let’s not get dramatic now…

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by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 12, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions

we prefer to make up stuff

makes things more interesting that way

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by Dragon27az on Apr 12, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions

yep haha

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by Souwantmyname on Apr 12, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions

right

sorry.. carry on lol

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by Little Nicky 21 on Apr 13, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions

The Jamar Fletcher pick

..and it’s relative importance considering who we left on the table…makes this the worst draft pick in recent memory. I cant imagine who’s gonna be #1.

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by CanT0o on Apr 12, 2011 4:59 PM EDT reply actions

Ted Ginn was worse imo

Willis and Revis were still on the board when we took Ginn. Oh and we had a HUGE need at both positions at the time

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by Souwantmyname on Apr 12, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions

Who's worst ever?

Imagine having the #1 overall pick and selecting a player that refuses to play for you. That’s exactly what happened with Jim Grabowskil How good could our choice have been? Grabowski was selected in the first round of the 1966 NFL Draft by the Green Bay Packers, with the ninth overall selection. Grabowski went on to play five seasons for the Packers, and finished his professional career by playing a single season for the Chicago Bears in 1971. Over his six seasons in the NFL, Grabowski rushed for 1,731 yards and scored 11 touchdowns (8 rushing, 3 receiving). Maybe we were lucky. Maybe we were just plain stupid.

It gets better …

Our #2 overall pick in 1966 was Kentucky QB Rick Norton, who DID sign with us. Just for the record, the NFL draft selected him with the 25th pick in the SECOND round. He played three years with Miami, amassing a whopping 7 TD’s as compared to 30 INT’s, for roughly 1800 yds and a QB rating of 30.

Hands down, without a doubt, the 1966 draft was our WORST of all-time. Nothing even comes close.

by Bill29036 on Apr 12, 2011 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions

I have to go....!

I just threw up on myself AGAIN!

by NuckifUBuck on Apr 12, 2011 5:01 PM EDT reply actions

LOL

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by Alpha6 on Apr 12, 2011 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions

This is the worst pick IMO

At least I understood some of the reasons for some of the other picks. Those players just weren’t very good. This one I had no idea what the hell anyone was thinking. And the player was a reach. It was the combination of everything that is wrong with a draft pick. A pick at a position already settled with a player that shouldn’t have been drafted until at least the 2nd round.

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by ct1361 on Apr 12, 2011 6:00 PM EDT reply actions

Worst pick #5?

I saw RHill at 6 and now Jamar at 4.
Who’s #5?

by CalDofFan on Apr 12, 2011 6:28 PM EDT reply actions

sammie smith

by dolphan63 on Apr 12, 2011 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions

"the Fumbler"

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by Alpha6 on Apr 12, 2011 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions

who can I talk to if I have a player I can get to interview on the Phinsiders?

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by Stats407 on Apr 12, 2011 6:30 PM EDT via mobile reply actions

Carlos Dansby...

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by Alpha6 on Apr 12, 2011 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions

This draft was a weird one

Then we got Chambers in round 2. Well why didn’t they get Chambers in the 1st round and Fletcher in the 2nd? At least that would have made more sense.

by Redeyedbandit on Apr 12, 2011 7:08 PM EDT via mobile reply actions

Chambers sucked!!!

That guy was always close… but not close enough… he was never clutch… he would make a great catch, then drop his next 4 easy catches on 3rd downs when we needed him to come through to keep a drive alive…

by Damarys Scott on Apr 12, 2011 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions

Draft

Ok guys. I keep hearing about the Dolphins trading up or down with their No 1 pick. I thought with no CBA there could be no trading of picks. Is this correct?

by Michael28_1 on Apr 12, 2011 7:28 PM EDT reply actions

Nope

you can trade picks, not players

by dolphan63 on Apr 12, 2011 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions

Hindsight is always 20/20.

Everyone wants to postulate how we missed on picking certain players, but no one backs it up with scouting reports at the time they were drafted that would warrant not picking them.

Drew Brees is a perfect example. 32 teams passed on Drew Brees. That means 32 teams worth of scouts, coaches, GMs, and owners all saw something wrong with him that warranted passing him up in the first round. He then proved them all right in his first 3 years in the league. Then in his 4th year in the league he goes ape shit and plays like a Pro Bowler, and now everyone talks about how they missed out on Drew Brees. Saying anybody missed out on a player by not selecting them in the previous round before they were selected is asinine.

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by luvs2drnk on Apr 12, 2011 9:19 PM EDT reply actions

Tom Brady is the ultimate example of that

He was passed over numerous times. Talk about bad scouting.

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by The Earl on Apr 12, 2011 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions

Not really

Brady was mediocre, hell even in his super bowl season he wasn’t much more than a game manager. 2 single SB winning drives aside, he was average as a passer until he ‘stopped’ winning SBs. Then he really took off and started leading in passing categories.

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by Farorefox on Apr 12, 2011 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

Was it really bad scouting?

He was a 2 year starter in a big name program with so-so stats. There’s no way a scout could have predicted Brady would have this kind of success in the NFL. Not to mention the fact that Brady only got on the field because of the injury to Drew Bledsoe.

Brees is a better example because he had decent stats in college in a pro style offense. But because he wasn’t breaking records, winning national titles, and he wasn’t the prototypically sized QB (probably the biggest reason) he dropped to the second round.

The draft has been and always will be a crap shoot. While the higher the pick, the higher the success rate. I don’t think there’s a GM/Owner/Coach in the entire history of the NFL who never missed on a pick or wound up picking a bust. All you can do is trust your instincts, the information gathered by your scouting team, and pray to the football gods the player becomes who you expect them to become.

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by luvs2drnk on Apr 12, 2011 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

Reminds me of the movie, "Fletch"

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by Alpha6 on Apr 12, 2011 11:01 PM EDT reply actions

fletcher over Brees.... ...

yea – this was one of the WORST picks ever. We were loaded at CB with Pat and Sam and yet we pass on Drew Brees, when we really needed a QB – HORRIBLE Front Office MGT !

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by 62Lou on Apr 13, 2011 10:17 AM EDT reply actions