Mosul's Dolphins Question of the Week
by Kevin Nogle on Mar 10, 2011 2:00 PM EST
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PrintAfter a busy couple of weeks at work, resulting in me missing my publishing deadline last week, the question of the week returns today.
Last time, we took a look at your definition of a "franchise" quarterback. While individually the answers seemed to bounce all over the place, together they basically came down to a guy who isn't afraid when the game is on the line, makes quick, definite decisions, and simply has "it" - whatever "it" is.
So, following that up, who do you think should be the "franchise" QB for Miami?
Basically, if you could draft any QB, trade for one of the likely available QBs, sign a FA QB, or simply stick it out with Chad Henne/Tyler Thigpen, who do you want?
No restrictions on likely hood of draft position, or trade asking price. Just, don't come up with answers like "Trade for Brady" or "Trade for Peyton." Try to stick to available QBs (i.e., Palmer, McNabb, Orton (?), etc.).
Finally, just a former Dolphins' player note, Pat White has quit baseball, failing to report to the Kansas City Royals spring training. That means he is out of two sports, now. I think you will see him back in football somewhere, maybe the UFL or CFL, if not signed as a backup somewhere in the NFL. Just an observation.
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For Thinking Your A No It All, You Really Don’t Know
Cam Newton? Please! How many black QB’s have won the Super Bowl besides Doug Williams? And Newton is supposed to be the exception? P-L-Z! THIS LEAGUE IS A WHITE QB DRIVEN LEAGUE. Even I know that and I’m Mexican. Sure they are more athletic, but that’s about it. True Dolphin fans wanna win a Super Bowl, not just make the playoffs.
by Redeyedbandit on Mar 11, 2011 2:13 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
This might be the worst argument ever, for not selecting Newton.
I will agree to disagree with you - as long as you understand that I'm right.
His teeth are too white and will blind the receivers?
Elevator smell different to midget. -Chinese Proverb
Why can't women put on mascara with their mouth closed?
Who owns this shithole? - Will Muny
Kaepernick or Ponder...
…Ponder or Kaepernick
You cant direct the wind but you sure can adjust the sails!
Be yourself. Everyone else seems to be taken anyhow.
Studies have shown that 23% of all institutionalized mental patients
are capable of living normal lives in a productive society.
The other 77% are Jets fans.
Newton or Orton
Two guys who can definitely play but are currently getting a bad rap. Newton, everyone is trying to think of excuses why he should not be the first qb selected (character issues, etc) I’m not buying it. Orton is a boss, he makes Henne look like a school girl
by Jasontaylor9944 on Mar 10, 2011 2:24 PM EST reply actions
I agree with this completely!
I was on the Orton bandwagon until I read that great article on Newton. I would still be ecstatic if we brought Orton in! The guy was on course to break Dan Marino’s single season passing yards record up until his injury!
'Phins phor Liphe!
Draft The Newtron Bomb!
Agreed: Newton or Orton
If not, I say Ponder in Rounds 2-3 is a great consolation prize
Laces out!
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Didn't Orton get named the starter by Fox in late Feb?
I will agree to disagree with you - as long as you understand that I'm right.
I like Orton to. But I don’t think Denver is going to let him go.
Kacy Rodgers Our D-Line Coach. Got to give him some credit.
Rusty Smith! (Titans future qb)
Play to win
by 54 on Mar 10, 2011 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
and if they do they are stupid.
Kacy Rodgers Our D-Line Coach. Got to give him some credit.
Rusty Smith! (Titans future qb)
Play to win
by 54 on Mar 10, 2011 3:31 PM EST up reply actions
Newton # 1 Choice, Ponder #2
Henne.. Waterboy…
Born in Miami, I bleed Aqua & Orange! I'm now stuck in CT, smack in between the "Jests" & "Patsies". I stand alone on PhinPhan Island, the lone sunny spot in an otherwise cold & dreary New England. (HELP, I'm surrounded by liberals!!) and it's cold..... too damn cold.....
Zman
gaaaatoraaaade....
Born in Miami, I bleed Aqua & Orange! I'm now stuck in CT, smack in between the "Jests" & "Patsies". I stand alone on PhinPhan Island, the lone sunny spot in an otherwise cold & dreary New England. (HELP, I'm surrounded by liberals!!) and it's cold..... too damn cold.....
Zman
Water's better!
-Pulse of the Maggots P.o.t.M. The "pm striker king"- WZB
"Truth is, everybody is going to hurt you; you just gotta find the ones worth suffering for." -Bob Marley
"Don't pray to have easier lives. Pray to be stronger men." - JFK
beer is best!
Kacy Rodgers Our D-Line Coach. Got to give him some credit.
Rusty Smith! (Titans future qb)
Play to win
by 54 on Mar 10, 2011 6:00 PM EST up reply actions
You're drinking the wrong H2O
-Pulse of the Maggots P.o.t.M. The "pm striker king"- WZB
"Truth is, everybody is going to hurt you; you just gotta find the ones worth suffering for." -Bob Marley
"Don't pray to have easier lives. Pray to be stronger men." - JFK
by PotM on Mar 10, 2011 6:05 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
But it just seems so right haha
Kacy Rodgers Our D-Line Coach. Got to give him some credit.
Rusty Smith! (Titans future qb)
Play to win
by 54 on Mar 10, 2011 6:08 PM EST up reply actions
You're a Patriot, 54
(as long as you like Sam Adams)
I will agree to disagree with you - as long as you understand that I'm right.
hmmmm. I do Yuengling…I don’t think I’ve ever had Sams before.
Kacy Rodgers Our D-Line Coach. Got to give him some credit.
Rusty Smith! (Titans future qb)
Play to win
by 54 on Mar 10, 2011 7:02 PM EST up reply actions
Guess I got a new weekend project
Kacy Rodgers Our D-Line Coach. Got to give him some credit.
Rusty Smith! (Titans future qb)
Play to win
by 54 on Mar 10, 2011 7:03 PM EST up reply actions
Mmmmmm.....Beer!
Yuengling brewery is in Tampa, I used to drink it often when I lived in Tampa. Good stuff.
Sam Adams: The “Lager” is not good, imo. However, some of the seasonal brews are VERY good. Summer Ale & Octoberfest come to mind.
Good tips. I will have to try them.
Kacy Rodgers Our D-Line Coach. Got to give him some credit.
Rusty Smith! (Titans future qb)
Play to win
by 54 on Mar 10, 2011 7:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Whiskey!!!!!
"The Bitterness of poor quality remains, long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
"Are we not entertained?!" -- Russell Crowe ‘Gladiator’ voice
That’s for when I’m having a bad day. Lol
Kacy Rodgers Our D-Line Coach. Got to give him some credit.
Rusty Smith! (Titans future qb)
Play to win
by 54 on Mar 11, 2011 7:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
trade back to the end of 1st rd and recoup 2nd rd pick
Draft Jake Locker! I have a feeling his skills have been played down and NFL teams have been mum bc they are hoping to steal him. For all the talk of athleticism on Newton, why didn’t we hear about Locker? Do most people realize who did better in the drills?
Use the rest of the draft to get interior OL, speedy RB’s and WR’s
It may have been you that turned me on to Locker's athletic ability,
I just think Newton has more poise and he also had more success. I wouldn’t be too terribly upset if we drafted Locker though!
'Phins phor Liphe!
Draft The Newtron Bomb!
I am along the same line of thinking just in reverse
I think it is locker that has more poise, but I would have no problems with Newton. I just hope we don’t take Mallet. He is Vinny Testeverde 2.0 IMO.
Jesus people I could give two ***** about my franchise QB's athleticism
Both Newton and Locker struggle THROWING THE FOOTBALL. I want a Qb that can make all the =throws and read a defense. I dont want him to take off running if his first option isnt open
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Mar 10, 2011 4:59 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Newton does not struggle in his throwing.
I don’t know where you get this notion.
'Phins phor Liphe!
Draft The Newtron Bomb!
combine? didn't watch just heard his accuracy was awful
-Pulse of the Maggots P.o.t.M. The "pm striker king"- WZB
"Truth is, everybody is going to hurt you; you just gotta find the ones worth suffering for." -Bob Marley
"Don't pray to have easier lives. Pray to be stronger men." - JFK
And he marveled at the Pro Day.
And he was stellar in game film. I don’t put too much stock in the combine workouts. It’s the film that really matters.
'Phins phor Liphe!
Draft The Newtron Bomb!
His offense hides some deficiencies, so an equal playing field is important.
-Pulse of the Maggots P.o.t.M. The "pm striker king"- WZB
"Truth is, everybody is going to hurt you; you just gotta find the ones worth suffering for." -Bob Marley
"Don't pray to have easier lives. Pray to be stronger men." - JFK
Not all is film is stellar
he looked like ass in the championship game—even though you wouldn’t know it from the stats, he missed a ton of throws, and didn’t consistently locate the ball well.
I think I heard Mayock say it this morning, too, something along the lines of “there’s a lot of bad tape on this kid, including the title game” The combine just reaffirmed what the tap already displayed.
And I saw the pro day highlights, and he didn’t look that great in those. He just doesn’t deliver the ball accurately enough.
--the artist formerly known as Phillyfinfan--
by Brooklynfinfan on Mar 10, 2011 9:51 PM EST up reply actions
Tape doesn't lie.
Elevator smell different to midget. -Chinese Proverb
Why can't women put on mascara with their mouth closed?
Who owns this shithole? - Will Muny
In the college spread option, the offense is designed to mask a QB's weaknesses
and that is why it is so successful. Tebow’s spread had many plays that were pure drop back and scan the field plays and is the closest I’ve seen the spread option look like a NFL offense.
-Pulse of the Maggots P.o.t.M. The "pm striker king"- WZB
"Truth is, everybody is going to hurt you; you just gotta find the ones worth suffering for." -Bob Marley
"Don't pray to have easier lives. Pray to be stronger men." - JFK
Of which you have 1 year of
that has him throwing to wide open receivers because safeties and LB’s were more worried about his running ability
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Mar 10, 2011 11:24 PM EST up reply actions
Cam Newton
Plain and simple. Anyone who thinks he’s NOT the real deal is basing that on misconceptions of him being a “run first” guy. Coming out of high school the biggest knock on him was that he was a “pure pocket passer”. Now the guy is the ultimate dual threat. I would be absolutely shocked if he didn’t end up being better than Vick.
by BigPuma23 on Mar 10, 2011 2:38 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I don't know if he will be better than Vick.
If Vick can continue to perform at the level he did in 2010, he will be on his way to the HoF. Still Newton has the ability so I can’t really say he won’t be better. It’s just too soon to say stuff like that IMO.
'Phins phor Liphe!
Draft The Newtron Bomb!
Vick has always been a run first guy til last year
Newton is just simply a more refined passer at this stage of his career than Vick was. Plus you have to add into the equation that Newton’s an athletic freak and 6’ 6". Vick is only 6 feet. I’m not saying he will be better, but if I had to put money on it, I’d say yes he will be.
also add into the equation
vick is a ton faster and more agile
Driving the draft Ryan Williams bandwagon
I'm all for Newton hype,
and I do believe he has an elite ceiling, but Vick is playing lights out. I’m not saying it’s impossible, just saying it’s a bit early to say that.
'Phins phor Liphe!
Draft The Newtron Bomb!
where did you get that from?
I am looking at his old Rivals page as I type this
Stupid Llamas!.
by otisnixon'sparty on Mar 11, 2011 1:36 AM EST up reply actions
Get real
The fins will not have a chance to draft Newton. Period!. Beside I think with his character issues and the fact that he is basically a running QB that he will be history in a couple of years. I would love to have a chance to draft Locker.
They just interviewed Locker on the Nfl network
You can tell that this guy has the work ethic to get it done at the next level. One of the things he said was that he believed people were overly critical of his comp %. He believes that it was lower because he made better decisions with the football than in his junior year. I would blame it a lot on lack of a supporting cast but he does his best to praise his teammates. This guy is definitely team oriented! If you get a chance watch Path to the draft today.
Wouldnt better decisions
tend to raise completion percentage?
Stupid Llamas!.
by otisnixon'sparty on Mar 11, 2011 1:37 AM EST up reply actions
Gabbert.
"Why don't you put that in a memo and entitle it 'Shit I Already Know'!" - Sarge from Red vs. Blue
I can't brain today, I have the dumb.
28 "Phinsider Feud" Points
Riding on the Blaine Train: The Draft Blaine Gabbert Bandwagon.
That guy screams bust to me
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Mar 10, 2011 4:59 PM EST up reply actions
No way dude
Kacy Rodgers Our D-Line Coach. Got to give him some credit.
Rusty Smith! (Titans future qb)
Play to win
by 54 on Mar 10, 2011 5:59 PM EST up reply actions
Bland Gabbert = BIG TIME bust IMO....
I mean c’mon! What the hell is the attraction with all these talking heads about Mr Gabbert??? What’s the guy done? 16tds and 9 ints? No thanks i’ll pass…..Are we at the point that we just totally ignore on-field production? What? he can run? He has escapability? Well I got news for everyone he ain’t running for S*&^ on sundays……If he’s gonna be a successful qb he better be able to THROW, and be PRODUCTIVE….. 16tds and 9ints? In the f-ing big12? Really??
Henne will be the starter in 2011
No matter what happens. If he really bombs the season, someone else will replace him, but whoever the Dolphins bring in will be sitting at first. Hopefully they will sit for at least a year. The best thing for the Dolphins would be for Henne to show tremendous improvement.
I’m a fan of going after someone like Locker late in the first round. If he’s not available, guys like Christian Ponder or Colin Kaepernick would be good. I also heard a good argument for bringing in Donovan McNabb. Bringing in McNabb is perhaps the only scenario where Henne could lose his job outright.
None of this matters if the Dolphins can’t upgrade their offensive line. They could probably be effective with Marshall/Hartline, Brown/Hilliard and Fasano/Shuler/Epps, but the Dolphins offense will be terrible without some serious O-line upgrades.
Chief Engineer of the Torrey Train
I just don't see Henne as the clear starter.
If Thigpen is brought back, I see him as the starter. He made it clear that he wouldn’t sign unless he had a real shot at starting, and whenever he is on the field our offense looks alive—with the exception of The Bears game.
'Phins phor Liphe!
Draft The Newtron Bomb!
You think that Thigpen would beat Henne out for the starting job?
Chief Engineer of the Torrey Train
If he’s given a fair shot. Yes. Just look at the last game. Who was the better QB of the two?
Kacy Rodgers Our D-Line Coach. Got to give him some credit.
Rusty Smith! (Titans future qb)
Play to win
by 54 on Mar 10, 2011 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
Henne...
Thigpen is unproven. I’m not saying he’s bad, and i’m not holding the shutout against the Bears against him. But all things considered, Henne is the better quarterback.
Chief Engineer of the Torrey Train
No way. I disagree 100%. Thig out played Henne, he did more with less. But Thanks for not holding the bears game against him. That shows me you aren’t naive. So we agree to disagree.
Kacy Rodgers Our D-Line Coach. Got to give him some credit.
Rusty Smith! (Titans future qb)
Play to win
by 54 on Mar 10, 2011 3:35 PM EST up reply actions
i have to agree with vince on this one....
Henne is better than Thiggy. In the last game the only thing that seemed to turn the game around is an interception on thiggy which was turned back because of a pass interference call. But, a very stupid ass throw… even worse than any of Henne’s bad throws. He got into some sort of rhythm at the end but the other team was playing rather soft defense. You can’t really fairly say which one was better because both weren’t great and the coaches didn’t seem to know who to put in as they took henne out and thiggy in and then thiggy out and henne back in and then thiggy was back in again. Overall though… I think Henne is better.
Thiggy is too careless and seems to freelance too much and he gets in trouble. He’s always had the wrap of making bad throws/decisions (in KC).
18-12 TD:Int ratio in 11 games,
And the ratio is much better when you just take his 10 consecutive starts.
I’d be much happier with Henne if he had those kind of numbers.
'Phins phor Liphe!
Draft The Newtron Bomb!
and besides Gonzalez
he had almost no weapons.
I forgot what it feels like to have my team in the SB. PLEASE remind me Fins.
Yeah that guy Dwayne Bowe is terrible.
On the "get Jake Locker in the draft no matter what it takes" bandwagon
terrible work ethic
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Mar 10, 2011 11:25 PM EST up reply actions
And if you ONLY take his 10 consecutive starts....
what is his record as a starter? 1-9? Awesome. Sign me up.
Thigpen put up far better numbers at KC
and I agree with 54 that he outplayed Henne in The Pats game. How can you say Henne outplayed Thigpen when Henne couldn’t even score?
'Phins phor Liphe!
Draft The Newtron Bomb!
offensive issue, not QB issue
this scoring problem stems from play calling and overall offensive execution, not just QB play.
by Dolphins101 on Mar 10, 2011 3:57 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yes,
but Thigpen had the same exact offense to work with, so I don’t see how that factors in here. Thigpen had the balls to switch Marshall’s routes to “Go” routes when he was in one on one coverage with a short CB. Those 3 plays resulted in a long TD grab, a long pass interference penalty and a drop by Marshall (which he admitted was his fault). Henne refused to change Marshall’s routes at the line.
Henne doesn’t have what it takes IMO.
'Phins phor Liphe!
Draft The Newtron Bomb!
They both suck.
If either of those 2 jokers are starting for us, we do NOT have a realistic chance of making the playoffs. Write that down.
Thig had the same offense, but I beleive he saw a different defense.
Elevator smell different to midget. -Chinese Proverb
Why can't women put on mascara with their mouth closed?
Who owns this shithole? - Will Muny
That last sentence of the first paragraph is probably why Henning pulled Thigpen in the first place
in the Pats Game. Thigpen had at least three or four dropped picks that Isaw and I didn’t even watch the whole game because I thought it was going to be a pick feast.
-Pulse of the Maggots P.o.t.M. The "pm striker king"- WZB
"Truth is, everybody is going to hurt you; you just gotta find the ones worth suffering for." -Bob Marley
"Don't pray to have easier lives. Pray to be stronger men." - JFK
Got to disagree also, Henne has proven he isn't a starter
Let Thigpen proves he’s not and if proven he is not, move on to a prized FA or draft the future and let him go wild.
Damn the sheriff, Bring on MARSHALL LAW
by fin4three5yrs on Mar 10, 2011 10:13 PM EST up reply actions
After having a pretty bad knee injury and then hit for a couple weeks, Henne was finally worse than Thigpen
-Pulse of the Maggots P.o.t.M. The "pm striker king"- WZB
"Truth is, everybody is going to hurt you; you just gotta find the ones worth suffering for." -Bob Marley
"Don't pray to have easier lives. Pray to be stronger men." - JFK
I love how everyone forgets about Henne's injury
I know he had issues at times before that but he shouldn’t have come back from that. There is no way your kneee takes a beating like that and not have it affect you. Besides the Oakland game there was something off with Henne after the injury (more so than before it).
On the "get Jake Locker in the draft no matter what it takes" bandwagon
Cause he was really tearing up the track b4 getting banged up
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Mar 10, 2011 11:26 PM EST up reply actions
He was significantly better during the first part of the year against better competition.
http://www.thephinsider.com/2011/2/12/1988976/yet-another-henne-post-with-some-hartline
-Pulse of the Maggots P.o.t.M. The "pm striker king"- WZB
"Truth is, everybody is going to hurt you; you just gotta find the ones worth suffering for." -Bob Marley
"Don't pray to have easier lives. Pray to be stronger men." - JFK
I think he could with playing time with the 1st team. I think Thigpen is a better QB then Henne.
Henne needs to step up
B Marshall + B Hartline D Bess = The 2nd comming of The Killer B's MPF 04/17/10
If I took the time to check for errors I would forget what I was trying to say! Deal !
Chad Henne/McNabb
vincemoss86 said it exactly the way I see it. Chad Henne is it for 2011 and I hope he turns his career around. His stats are just not very bad for a second year guy. People around here just don’t understand. Not everyone is Manning or Brady. I never liked McNabb but he has earned the greatest passer in eagles franchise history by doing something right. Maybe in Miami he would finally win the SB that was sooooo close for him.
This^^^^^^
If Henne somehow wins in competition….and then is injured or plays bad….Mallett is already way ahead of the draftees, because of playing for years in the pro-NFL system in college.
And you can put this in the bank…if there is someone open, 10 yards or 50 yards…..Mallett will drop it right in his arms. Clockwork! Sound familiar?
Isn’t this what fin fans want?
O, yea…. Malletts senior year: 3,869 yards passing! 37 TD’s Marino’s 2,432. 17 TD’s
But wait! Someone rumored he did some drugs, therefore we should pass.
Listen…if this guy can produce this kind of accuracy, and put up these #‘s while getting high [which he couldn’t]…..I say WELCOME to Miami !
Elevator smell different to midget. -Chinese Proverb
Why can't women put on mascara with their mouth closed?
Who owns this shithole? - Will Muny
College stats from the early 80s shouldn't be applied.
Totally different times.
I like Mallet as on of my favorite QBs in this weak class.
-Pulse of the Maggots P.o.t.M. The "pm striker king"- WZB
"Truth is, everybody is going to hurt you; you just gotta find the ones worth suffering for." -Bob Marley
"Don't pray to have easier lives. Pray to be stronger men." - JFK
You're correct about the time change
however, those are head turning #’s in todays football. Couple that with a QB rating of 174.
Elevator smell different to midget. -Chinese Proverb
Why can't women put on mascara with their mouth closed?
Who owns this shithole? - Will Muny
Did Ireland ask Mallet if his mom was a drug dealer?
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Mar 10, 2011 11:28 PM EST up reply actions
OR HOOKER? OR IF HIS DADDY IS A PIMP?
Just think how stupid the average Jest fan is, and then realize that half of them are even stupider! ( a parody of a George Carlin line)
by PhinsTifosi on Mar 10, 2011 11:51 PM EST up reply actions
I think he gave him your number.
Elevator smell different to midget. -Chinese Proverb
Why can't women put on mascara with their mouth closed?
Who owns this shithole? - Will Muny
Did Mallett claim his father was a pimp
and that his mother worked for him?
'Phins phor Liphe!
Draft The Newtron Bomb!
If she laid down on the job.....
"The Bitterness of poor quality remains, long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
"Are we not entertained?!" -- Russell Crowe ‘Gladiator’ voice
HEEEEEE'S BAAAAAACK!
Elevator smell different to midget. -Chinese Proverb
Why can't women put on mascara with their mouth closed?
Who owns this shithole? - Will Muny
stats can be deceiving
Player 1 – 2743 yards 24/5 td/int this past year
Player 2 – 3845 yards 35/6 182qb rating
nobody talking about tyrod taylor and kellen moore
Driving the draft Ryan Williams bandwagon
yeah i dont really get that
i guess hes getting the 6’ nothing complaints?
Driving the draft Ryan Williams bandwagon
everyone except for Cam Newton in this years draft seem comparible with Henne in some form or fashion
And if we wanted a Cam Newton type QB we could either sign T.Jackson from Minnesota,or T.Smith from San Fran,but we already have a somewhat slower version in thighpen.
I really don’t get why Henne is so disgraced around here,and in the media. In two years he has 5 fourth quarter comebacks,has thrown for roughly 5000 yards,has problems with reading the defense,but has been hindered by a play it safe coach,and last years lack of a running game.
If it was my choice,I’d let Henne prove himself this year,and sign Troy Smith and wouldn’t have to waste a draft pick on another project we would offer more time to develop than we are already not willing to afford our own Henne.
Then again,I saw where someone had Matthew Stafford as an elite QB,which seems ludicrous in that he has yet to play a full season without an injury,so I REALLY don’t get how Henne has earned the bust label as of yet.
by dolphinfan4lyfe on Mar 10, 2011 3:25 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I dont know what the hell you just said little boy...but your're special!
Newton or Mallet….if both are gone Henne
First off,i am not only 33,but a retired Marine to boot,so watch who you call little boy
I am not here to argue,and your comment was rude,and unnecessary. I simply said I don’t understand how all of our offensive woes can be pinned on Henne alone.
Also,I don’t understand all this Cam Newton love,when he’s pretty much a bigger version of Pat White,and we saw how that turned out for us. Oh yeah,tell me this young man,do you believe Matthew Stafford is a legitimate candidate as a starting caliber QB? His knee and shoulder would disagree.
Bottom line is unless you can give me viable proof that there is enough to say that Henne has no chance in hell to become a viable starting QB,why are we not willing to offer him the same chances we are willing to offer say Cam Newton,or Mallet. P.S. if the front office IS in fact going to do something that will save their jobs,their best chance at doing it is by allowing Henne to prove he can take the reigns in his third year as starter
by dolphinfan4lyfe on Mar 10, 2011 8:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
he didn't say he 'retired' AT 33.
Elevator smell different to midget. -Chinese Proverb
Why can't women put on mascara with their mouth closed?
Who owns this shithole? - Will Muny
finhead, yes you can - it is called a medical discharge. Which usually means (these days & in my time) ya got hurt pretty badly in COMBAT!
ya know, where these crazies are shooting at ya with REAL bullets!
(’Nam era vet here)
Just think how stupid the average Jest fan is, and then realize that half of them are even stupider! ( a parody of a George Carlin line)
by PhinsTifosi on Mar 10, 2011 11:54 PM EST up reply actions
A 71 spook
and that was just plain ignorant.
Elevator smell different to midget. -Chinese Proverb
Why can't women put on mascara with their mouth closed?
Who owns this shithole? - Will Muny
you mean from finhead?
Just think how stupid the average Jest fan is, and then realize that half of them are even stupider! ( a parody of a George Carlin line)
by PhinsTifosi on Mar 10, 2011 11:59 PM EST up reply actions
ps - my sister is a spook - 31 years now at no such agency
Just think how stupid the average Jest fan is, and then realize that half of them are even stupider! ( a parody of a George Carlin line)
by PhinsTifosi on Mar 10, 2011 11:59 PM EST up reply actions
lol....Im tired
talking to you…directed at finhead/
The drugs are wearing off.
Hope she’s in the upper 2/3rds. as you just nailed her planting in 79.nitwit.
Elevator smell different to midget. -Chinese Proverb
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I know there are medical discharges
After all, I’m currently serving. And I know about the real bullets as well because I just came back from Afghanistan.
For the service I am in, the language must be different from other services. If you have 20 years, then you are eligible for retirement (permanent or temporary) with discharge benefits. If you are not eligible to retire, meaning you have not served 20 years, you are only eligible for a disability discharge with disability benefits.
The post wasn’t meant to be for attacking an individual’s prior service, though I probably should’ve made it seem more in a happy/joking manner. Sometimes I can forget such detail when I’m writing while exhausted.
Oh wow, wait...
The text from my comment didn’t even post… only the title did. Sorry about that, I now see how wrong everything looks. There was more in the text that was supposed to make it appear like the post was serious. Sorry to those, mainly DF4lyfe, that may have been offended.
Hoooaaah!!!
"The Bitterness of poor quality remains, long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
"Are we not entertained?!" -- Russell Crowe ‘Gladiator’ voice
Well it takes a lot more time to type in that i was honorably medically discharged.
And so technically I am retired at 33
by dolphinfan4lyfe on Mar 11, 2011 12:33 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
chill....like I said....you didn't infer you retired at 33.
I may be wrong…but it sounds like you were infantry.
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Actually my MOS was AOD :)
by dolphinfan4lyfe on Mar 11, 2011 4:00 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
More than 1 AOD but I'm assuming your MOS was 'ground' and not air.
At any rate…
Wecome home.
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I also agree
however, Henne does need the competition, not only to improve, but get back the self confidence Henning and [fans forget I dropped that ball by running my mouth…distracting any blame from me ] Marshall.
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I REALLY don’t get how Henne has earned the bust label as of yet.
Uh because turns out he’s not good.
Laces out!
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so simple but so right LOL
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Mar 10, 2011 5:02 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed... Chad Henne
There really isn’t all that much in the draft that excites me nor do I think any of these QB’s have it in them to be franchise material.
Although…. if we can grab Kolb… not sold on him entirely but I do think he’s better than Henne, at least at present time unless Henne proves us other wise.
So you want a re-run of the AJ Feeley nightmare
Andy Reid’s system makes QB’s look good. Kolb is a backup level QB. Nothing more
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Mar 10, 2011 5:04 PM EST up reply actions
Something intrigues me about Kolb but not at the price
the Eagles would ask for him and I can’t disagree that Reid makes QB’s look better than they most likely are.
On the "get Jake Locker in the draft no matter what it takes" bandwagon
It must be his sister...or I'm disapointed.
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Why can't women put on mascara with their mouth closed?
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Chad Henne's the guy this year
and if he succeeds, all well and good. But if Sparano and Ireland do not take one of the top five (insert your choice here) QBs and Henne falls on his face again you can expect Sparano and Ireland to be job hunting.
You cant direct the wind but you sure can adjust the sails!
Be yourself. Everyone else seems to be taken anyhow.
Studies have shown that 23% of all institutionalized mental patients
are capable of living normal lives in a productive society.
The other 77% are Jets fans.
For the love of Pete I cannot understand
why people join Sporano and Ireland at the hip! Just because Bill…‘where the hell is he’…Parcells requested these two, doesn’t mean they are married.
Ireland is one of the best GM’s in the league! He has brought in HUGE talent from FA to the CFL. And not only has he drafted ’great ’ young players, he drafted players that are a perfect fit for the coaches.
EG: Nolans defense is an attacking inside system, and people keep pissing on Misi. WTF!
Sparano is his own man…separate in knowledge and understanding, from Ireland. His ways are different….and yes he needs help with the clock…but his requirements are separate.
One positive….He has kept two loose cannons [Marshall and Incognito] in check.
Something others could not.
Regardless….these two are not wrapped in the same package. If Sparano cannot do it…[and I think he can] why call for Irelands head?
It’s so easy a Jets fan can understand…after reading it a few times. Two people…two jobs.
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by Flip-her on Mar 10, 2011 11:50 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
ROFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just think how stupid the average Jest fan is, and then realize that half of them are even stupider! ( a parody of a George Carlin line)
by PhinsTifosi on Mar 10, 2011 11:56 PM EST up reply actions
rec'd too (& see my sig line!)
Just think how stupid the average Jest fan is, and then realize that half of them are even stupider! ( a parody of a George Carlin line)
by PhinsTifosi on Mar 10, 2011 11:56 PM EST up reply actions
I don't see no stinkin Recs!
lol
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I see 2 recs
Just think how stupid the average Jest fan is, and then realize that half of them are even stupider! ( a parody of a George Carlin line)
Heh heh heh
rec’d
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Hey Dolfans
Why exactly did Pat White last only one year in the NFL? Not trying to be a jerk, I honestly just want to know.
Oh yes that's right, I'm a Jets fan.
by Bob_The_Friendly_Baker on Mar 10, 2011 3:57 PM EST reply actions
White wanted to play baseball...
…and to my knowledge he quit baseball too.
You cant direct the wind but you sure can adjust the sails!
Be yourself. Everyone else seems to be taken anyhow.
Studies have shown that 23% of all institutionalized mental patients
are capable of living normal lives in a productive society.
The other 77% are Jets fans.
ya
He doesn’t seem to rise to the occasion/challenge. more or less its a flaw in character when the tough gets going, he quits.
White was drafted as a gimmick to enhance the wildcat
it was a high risk pick that failed. Chalk that one up to Ireland
You cant direct the wind but you sure can adjust the sails!
Be yourself. Everyone else seems to be taken anyhow.
Studies have shown that 23% of all institutionalized mental patients
are capable of living normal lives in a productive society.
The other 77% are Jets fans.
He wanted to be a QB,
and that concussion in the final game in 2009 pretty much ended his chances as a QB for The Dolphins.
Honestly, I think forcing him to take his gloves off was a mistake. The kid has small hands and likely used those for grip.
'Phins phor Liphe!
Draft The Newtron Bomb!
I agree, I think they tried to change him too much and it obviously failed
On the "get Jake Locker in the draft no matter what it takes" bandwagon
I think it was a case of trying to fix every weakness
instead of working to the strengths of the QB.
'Phins phor Liphe!
Draft The Newtron Bomb!
Yup, he wasn't great throwing the football at WV
but he wasn’t terrible either. With the Dolphins he was flat out terrible throwing the football. Something they did with him (could have been the gloves, mechanics or both….. or maybe even something else) ruined him throwing the ball. I could have done better than him in a Dolphins uniform (and I am not exaggerating, which is sad…. lol).
On the "get Jake Locker in the draft no matter what it takes" bandwagon
cuz he sucks
and cant cut it in the nfl
smoking rally bowls for the phins since 2002! oh and screw the jets
White lasted one year because we suck at developing QB’s. That’s the honest answer.
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by 54 on Mar 10, 2011 5:54 PM EST up reply actions
I am praying our new guys in charge of that know what they are doing and that our head coach doesn’t micromanage the new guy out the league.
Kacy Rodgers Our D-Line Coach. Got to give him some credit.
Rusty Smith! (Titans future qb)
Play to win
by 54 on Mar 10, 2011 5:56 PM EST up reply actions
As pessimistic as I've been about the OC choice...
Its been said from what I read that QBoll is pretty good at QB development. Maybe Henne can take the next step or two under the new OC. And most importantly, maybe we wont screw the new QB up, whoever that may be.
See? I’m trying real hard to be optimistic.
You cant direct the wind but you sure can adjust the sails!
Be yourself. Everyone else seems to be taken anyhow.
Studies have shown that 23% of all institutionalized mental patients
are capable of living normal lives in a productive society.
The other 77% are Jets fans.
I hear ya.
Kacy Rodgers Our D-Line Coach. Got to give him some credit.
Rusty Smith! (Titans future qb)
Play to win
by 54 on Mar 10, 2011 7:08 PM EST up reply actions
Legitimate optimism is very refreshing
in a wash of bandwagon radio parrots.
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I wish I was still in college
I’d do a paper on “The Denseness of a clueless football fan!”
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It even has a place for your title.
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by 54 on Mar 11, 2011 4:17 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I have so many retorts,
but I just can’t think of one!
I will agree to disagree with you - as long as you understand that I'm right.
by Tunaflipper on Mar 11, 2011 4:20 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
lol
[I’m still ‘clueless’ regarding the sarcasm box]
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Put a phrase in-between @
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Rusty Smith! (Titans future qb)
Play to win
by 54 on Mar 11, 2011 7:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
true sarcasm needs no box
we have to be free!
I will agree to disagree with you - as long as you understand that I'm right.
by Tunaflipper on Mar 11, 2011 11:44 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
... but not cheap...
"The Bitterness of poor quality remains, long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
"Are we not entertained?!" -- Russell Crowe ‘Gladiator’ voice
by Alpha6 on Mar 12, 2011 6:42 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I may be easy, but I am never free
Just think how stupid the average Jest fan is, and then realize that half of them are even stupider! ( a parody of a George Carlin line)
by PhinsTifosi on Mar 13, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Roflmao!
rec!
wopper "the king" computer
We often look rite past the positive's cuz the negative's-r-so hard they dominate!
by wild zion beaver on Mar 13, 2011 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Kolb
I think Andy Reid is a pretty solid NFL coach, I also think he’s got an eye for talent and he seemed to think Kolb was the future for the Eagles. He had so much confidence in Kolb he traded Mcnabb to a division rival!
Give up our first round for Kolb and we have an immediate starter that is smart, accurate and a leader.
He traded McNabb because McNabb sucks
He had a QB that knew the offense. It was a gamble that didnt pay off since he got hurt and Vick took his job
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Mar 10, 2011 5:06 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah Mcnabb sucks so bad the Eagles went to 4 NFC Championships with him
The gamble would have paid off if Vick wasn’t in God Mode when he got his shot. How long Vick can play the way he does is a MUCH bigger gamble for Reid than if Kolb is a Franchise QB or not.
Kolb will be some NFL Team’s Franchise QB, would be nice if it’s the Dolphins…
The gamble *did* pay off
because of Vick :P
and lol@ god mode, well said
'Phins phor Liphe!
Draft The Newtron Bomb!
Fine go ahead and be fooled by another QB from an Andy Reid system
Oh and way to live in the past with that McNabb argument. The guy is crap NOW
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Mar 10, 2011 11:34 PM EST up reply actions
Name a QB from Washington that has been good in the last 10 years.
'Phins phor Liphe!
Draft The Newtron Bomb!
Speed does not a WR make!
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MALLET FOR PRESIDENT!
Late First Round (trade back and hope he is still available)
by NC Livin! MIA Born and Bred! on Mar 10, 2011 4:46 PM EST reply actions
You're on the right track
however, Jacksonville #16 is rumered to be drueling over him.
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So is at #15 a reach then?
"The Bitterness of poor quality remains, long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
"Are we not entertained?!" -- Russell Crowe ‘Gladiator’ voice
Wow....very good question!
A ‘reach’, IMO. is grabbing someone too soon…
before anyone else wants them. If Jacksonville is seriously interested in Mallett @ 16….and it appears they are…then if it’s a QB the FO is looking for, and he’s the best choice @ 15, then my answer is no.
As you know…most early Mocks are hooey anyway….and I cannot understand why Matty quotes from Kipper. I prefer turning my ear to an analyst that has coached, scouted, or at least played the game. I mean even his name is fishy.
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I'd be interested in seeing what Chad Henne could do with a real QB coach.
Past that, Kolb might be available (he already said he wanted to be the starter and then Vick came along).
Peyton Manning isn’t signed yet … just saying. No draft pick needed for him.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Mar 10, 2011 4:57 PM EST reply actions
Hey SMP. Isn't it about time that Brady retires?
Just think how stupid the average Jest fan is, and then realize that half of them are even stupider! ( a parody of a George Carlin line)
What do you mean?
We got him some new tires last year – plenty of tread left.
Oh, THAT kind of retire. I don’t think he has enough jewelry yet. He needs to quit messing with his hair and get some more rings. I don’t know, maybe after getting a wedding ring, he’s just not up for Super Bowls anymore.
You guys up for a used quarterback with a ponytail?
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Mar 10, 2011 5:05 PM EST up reply actions
NFL = No Femenine League.... but thanks for askin....
"The Bitterness of poor quality remains, long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
"Are we not entertained?!" -- Russell Crowe ‘Gladiator’ voice
Not sure if it will hold up in the next CBA (if they ever get their crap together)
but didn’t Indy put the exclusive franchise tag on Manning?
On the "get Jake Locker in the draft no matter what it takes" bandwagon
They did, but like you said, who knows if it will hold up.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Mar 11, 2011 9:48 AM EST up reply actions
At this point now
the only thing that is certain is uncertainty…….. what a mess it seems like we are headed towards!
On the "get Jake Locker in the draft no matter what it takes" bandwagon
They also told him he would be the highest paid player in the NFL once
they could negotiate after the CBA is finalized. He isn’t going anywhere.
'Phins phor Liphe!
Draft The Newtron Bomb!
I simply do not understand many people here.
The Cam bandwagon is out of control running over everyone here. Let’s see. There is massive outcry that Soliai is not worth the franchise tag because he is a 1 yr wonder, but the same people want Cam, who is . . . A 1 yr wonder!
Others want any other team’s cast-offs (Orton, Kolb, Thiggy, McNabb, etc.). Okay I agree that CAN work – can anyone say Matt Cassel? But look at who he was back-up to! Think they would bench Brady so Cassel could play? They only got lucky because Brady was on IR and they HAD to play Cassel, which gave them the trade bait ammo after Brady came back!
Many ripped the OL last year and both RB and RunRickyRun. Now it is all Henne’s fault. Personally I suspect that Henning & D Lee had a lot more to do with how Henne played last year than anyone is willing to credit for. Henne has shown initiative by seeking out Daboll last month. I don’t give a rats patooty if it does get the Phins fined. That shows me he has some fire and emotion.
I want to see Henne turned loose and see what he can really do, or not.
Draft Ponder and let him learn from CP10.
I don’t want Newton, Mallet, Locker, Dalton, Gabbert or any of the overhyped QBs in this draft who would have been in the 4th or 5th round of the 1983 draft.
Just think how stupid the average Jest fan is, and then realize that half of them are even stupider! ( a parody of a George Carlin line)
You had me until the last sentance [which included Mallett]
This isn’t 83. And if it was…I already posted Mallett, vs Marino’s senior passing yards.
Find em and weep!
Elevator smell different to midget. -Chinese Proverb
Why can't women put on mascara with their mouth closed?
Who owns this shithole? - Will Muny
I wasn't really comparing college stats 'cause they cannot be compared, even the college game
is way different. I was simply comparing the people. The 83 draft had, well the 83 draft. None of these 2010 QBs would have been rated 1st rounders in 83.
Just think how stupid the average Jest fan is, and then realize that half of them are even stupider! ( a parody of a George Carlin line)
Can I ask you guys a series of questions?
Did you guys forget about Dan Henning? Did you guys forget that Henne was put into all the pressure thanks to Henning? DId you guys forget that we have a new offensive coordinator that is good in developing QB’s and has a friendly QB system? DId you guys forget that Daboll is gonna use Henne’s strengths to make him a good QB in the league? Henne has room to improve, and he will do it under Daboll. He took responsibility for last year’s downfall and is working hard to improve. And, why will he improve? Because there is no Dan Henning. Have faith guys
Thanks
Thank you!
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No no no NO
Chances are even if we got one of these QBs in the draft, they would not suddenly step in and save this team. Orton and the other likely FAs aren’t the answer either? Is Henne going to suddenly bloom under the coordinator? Maybe……maybe not. BUT………there is one QB out there who could make an instant impact on this offense. He’s a superb down the field, vertical passer and has showed he can win with a less than ideal team. Who is that you say? He’s was once a Miami Dolphin and he had quite a little following by some while he was spurned by Nick Saban (because he wasn’t HIS guy, not because he couldn’t light it up) Remember Sage Rosenfels? He desperately wants to start and I’m willing to bet he’d jump at the chance to come back to Miami. Not, if we could only pry him away from the Giants……………..
Yea I liked Sage to. Don’t know what he has now. Bringing him into battle is cool with me.
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by 54 on Mar 10, 2011 6:07 PM EST up reply actions
Sage could'a been special
Remember how coaches fought letting Doug Flutie play QB? Some players seem to get the shaft and that’s what I think happened to Sage. Remember that Buffalo game where he torched the secondary in a comeback win? I think Chambers had 250 yds receiving that game. It’s funny, but I remember this preseason game when Sage was in there and there was a camera shot on him while snapping the ball over center. In that shot, for a moment, he looked a lot like Marino. Sure wish someone would give the guy a shot. He proved in Houston he’s got lots of moxy
About Henne
I don’t see in him a franchise QB, but I see in him a guy like Orton, a guy with good capabilities, need a lot of time to develop in a solid starter in the NFL and a great backup, for me he will be the starter for the next year, only if get a good QB in FA can lose this spot (only for next year)
Tyler Thighpen could have a good year too, he is ideal for Dabol offense schema, I like if he sign his tender and stay one more year battle for the starting position.
And in the draft trade down, and get Pounder, Dalton or Delvin, Pounder could be a first rounder but his injury story sends him to 2nd round, and Dalton and Delvin are two grate prospects coming from unrated colleges. Give these guys one year learning with CP10 and Dabol, the second year battle for the starting Job, and can be ready in his 3rd year to be the franchise QB of the Fins. In this time Henne of Thigpen could do the job.
Anybody but Henne or Thigpen
I don’t know if it’s Newton, Mallet, Locker, Kolb, Palmer, McNabb or Orton, but we need to start over.
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by The Last Shall Become First on Mar 10, 2011 5:42 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Pat White is 25 years old
And he’s already retired more times then Michael Jordan, Brett Farve and Mario Lemieux combined
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by The Last Shall Become First on Mar 10, 2011 5:39 PM EST reply actions
He just wants to go back to college... poor guy
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Mar 10, 2011 11:35 PM EST up reply actions
i think if we draft a QB, he will have to sit the bench for half the season.
With that said, Newton or Locker can play immediately in plays designed to take advantage of their athleticism. I think Mallet is going to be a guy that is capable of putting up great numbers with great pass protection but will be very inconsistent. I’m thinking of guys like Bledsoe, K. Collins, V. Testeverde. All guys who were capable of putting up great numbers but ultimately were incapable of overcoming a strong defensive team.
I think Mallett's arm is
better then all the QB’s you mentioned….I feel he may be a diamond in the rough!
by MassFinFan65 on Mar 10, 2011 7:55 PM EST up reply actions
ponder... the most pro ready QB
newton is a project… had enough of that thank you! ponder’s injury history is a non factor since his elbow surgery, he’s throwing like a beast. hmmmmm a beast throwing to the beast… I like it .
None of the above
Neither the QBs in the draft nor the free agent QBs look like franchise QBs to me (you could argue for Palmer or McNabb 7-8 years ago, but not today). The most promising are Orton and Gabbert, but neither are sure things. What we’ll wind up doing: keep Henne, draft a mid-round guy with potential (I love Ponder, Kaepernick not so much), and either get a cheap vet free agent (Marc Bulger? Matt Hasselbeck?) or keep Thigpen (or both) and have them all battle it out in training camp.
Has Orton disenfranchised himself from Fox's statement that he'll be the starter?
I will agree to disagree with you - as long as you understand that I'm right.
RESIGN PAT WHITE...
AKA Crash
"And my head I'd be scratchin' While my thoughts were busy hatchin'
If I only had a brain" --Henning
"Just because I'm presumin' That I could be a human, If I only had a heart" --Henne
"But I could show my prowess, be a lion not a mou-ess
If I only had the nerve."--Sparano
He better wear a new, better helmet, then.
The next one’s gonna hurt bad.
I will agree to disagree with you - as long as you understand that I'm right.
I heard he has 'badmitten' down as the next "challenge.
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Yeah but that birdie flies fast!
He’ll still need a helmet.
I will agree to disagree with you - as long as you understand that I'm right.
He'll see plenty of them...whatever he does.
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Chad Henne
Still think he can make it work
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Mar 10, 2011 7:51 PM EST via mobile reply actions
We all hope so.
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by Patssuck456 on Mar 11, 2011 11:33 PM EST up reply actions
Mallett, Palmer, Young
I would like any of the above…..a lot of people like Ponder but he did not dominate in College so why would he stand out in the NFL,…..Mallett has a cannon of an arm and likely to put Marino like #’s….Palmer can be great again in the right system and support, Cincinnati coaches have been terrible….& finally Young has much talent, is not washed up and can be rejuvenated with a change of scenery and good coaching….Young a full time wildcat QB + imagine the Young- Marshall connection.
No guarantees but the franchise connection is there with all three..Mallett at the TOP of my list!
Chad Henne
Best chance to win this year, Ponder as backup.
2011 Super bowl or bust!!!
J-E-S-T-S SUCK, SUCK, SUCK.
I want Ponder, Just say no to Newton.
At first I wanted Newton in a bad way. but the more I see of him the more I see hype and not a QB. I’ll bet anyone right now no matter who drafts Newton he will hold out, for a while, looking for BIG $$$. and he will be out of the NFL in three years.
Ponder on the other hand I wasn’t very inpressed with him at FSU, I am a Canes fan though. But the more I’ve seen of him lately he looks at acts like an NFL QB. He is going to be a leader and one heck of a QB.
Does not matter...
It does not matter who the QB is if we do not…
1) Fix the O line
2) Keep R and R or get somebody to replace them
3) Get a WR to hit it deep
Enough said because with out these things fixed first…nothing else matters…
If we get those things, we need a QB that can make plays
the two are interconnected.
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Kevin.....What about Peace on Earth?
Your right….F It!
Elevator smell different to midget. -Chinese Proverb
Why can't women put on mascara with their mouth closed?
Who owns this shithole? - Will Muny
my pond is contaminated & i'm being forced to move!
For-cryin out laud, in search of clean water what a mess, My world is shrinking everyday “stop” poluation!
wopper "the king" computer
We often look rite past the positive's cuz the negative's-r-so hard they dominate!
by wild zion beaver on Mar 14, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Shitting in your own dwelling?
"The Bitterness of poor quality remains, long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
"Are we not entertained?!" -- Russell Crowe ‘Gladiator’ voice
Once it was acid raining one time & we were sitting ing the pond raceing speed flushing the toilet works fine!
wopper "the king" computer
We often look rite past the positive's cuz the negative's-r-so hard they dominate!
by wild zion beaver on Mar 14, 2011 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Not happening, unless we are the 32 worse team this year.
Kacy Rodgers Our D-Line Coach. Got to give him some credit.
Rusty Smith! (Titans future qb)
Play to win
Acquire some 2012 picks this year and trade up next year...
aka "The Duke"
Proponent of I-AA Football
Driving the Roberto Wallace Bandwagon
Driving the Mark Legree Bandwagon
Unofficial Phinsider DJ
If he doesn’t mess up his value there may be a bidding war on him. The asking price will be steep.
Kacy Rodgers Our D-Line Coach. Got to give him some credit.
Rusty Smith! (Titans future qb)
Play to win
Then we need some valuable chips to trade...
aka "The Duke"
Proponent of I-AA Football
Driving the Roberto Wallace Bandwagon
Driving the Mark Legree Bandwagon
Unofficial Phinsider DJ
I just don’t know. I really don’t see us having a chance to get him without hurting the team. I think we will be a mid pac team at worse with our D. I would love to get him. But I don’t see happening.
Kacy Rodgers Our D-Line Coach. Got to give him some credit.
Rusty Smith! (Titans future qb)
Play to win
But if we address many of our needs this year
we might be able to afford a trade up for Luck.
aka "The Duke"
Proponent of I-AA Football
Driving the Roberto Wallace Bandwagon
Driving the Mark Legree Bandwagon
Unofficial Phinsider DJ
Seriously....you don't think Luck is # 1 next year?
Trade up?
I tell you what….
Pop Warner is looking for some intuitive minds…I’ll pass your thoughts on.
Stay near the phone.
Elevator smell different to midget. -Chinese Proverb
Why can't women put on mascara with their mouth closed?
Who owns this shithole? - Will Muny
It's not like the 1st overall pick has never been traded before.
How do you think Atlanta acquired Michael Vick?
'Phins phor Liphe!
Draft The Newtron Bomb!
or Ditka got Williams.
Elevator smell different to midget. -Chinese Proverb
Why can't women put on mascara with their mouth closed?
Who owns this shithole? - Will Muny
This is the only likely scenario for getting Luck.
Trade our first this year for a 1st and 3rd next year if it’s a bad team, or a 1st and 2nd if it’s a good team.
'Phins phor Liphe!
Draft The Newtron Bomb!
Luck can be had without sucking wind all season
Trade our first round pick this year to a top 10 drafting team this year, and maybe get a second rounder in the process for this year, or at least a third rounder.
Then take our two first round picks in 2012 and move up (hopefully we won’t be in a position to get him automatically) to get Luck.
Build this year’s team from whatever free agency and unsigned draft picks we can get…tread water…and go for broke next year.
Doable.
President of the "Do What You Have to Do to Draft Luck in '12" FanClub.
I bet the scouts and draft guru's will find holes in Luck's game next year.
When it is all said and done, Luck won’t be the #1 pick in the ‘12 draft. He might fall out of the top 5 or 10. Look at recent history. All top QB’s that could have come out their junior year have dropped when they come out their senior year.
Film is a good thing when evaluating talent. Too much can hurt especially if his numbers regress. Ask Jake Locker.
"It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing." MACBETH
"Walter, I love you, but sooner or later, you're going to have to face the fact you're a goddamn moron." THE DUDE (The Big Lebowski)
I heard from a reliable sourse
Lucks Father was a prostitute who sold cigarettes to miners, and listen to this…..
Lucks Father “made” his mother ‘sing’….from HER DIAPHRAGM!
Can you imagine? What a sicko!
Elevator smell different to midget. -Chinese Proverb
Why can't women put on mascara with their mouth closed?
Who owns this shithole? - Will Muny
Sounds like *Bad Luck*.....
"The Bitterness of poor quality remains, long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
"Are we not entertained?!" -- Russell Crowe ‘Gladiator’ voice
Yes, we need interior O line help
But don’t blame the O line and Henning for all of Henne’s shortcomings. I would love for him to become everything we imagined pre 2010 season, but Iets not rely on hope this season. We need to secure 2 more qbs, a vet and a well tooled draftee. Securing that, we can focus on the OL thru latter picks in the draft and FA.
Damn the sheriff, Bring on MARSHALL LAW
I wouldn't pick anyone from FA
there aren’t any QBs out there that I think would come in here and suddenly become our QB, they are either too old or just not that good. As far as the draft from the videos I’ve seen Ponder seems the most “NFL” ready, but I don’t really keep up too much with pre drafted players since it doesn’t really matter until you see who your team has picked.
Chad Henne is the best qb
we will get this year
you mad bros?
Dan Henning is the sole reason the dolphins aren't a Superbowl Caliber team.
GET PETE CARMICHAEL JR. FOR HC RIGHT NOW!
I think the phins should just break the bank and trade all our 2011 & 2012 draft picks and sign Manning to a 5 year $300 mil guaranteed contract.
Just think how stupid the average Jest fan is, and then realize that half of them are even stupider! ( a parody of a George Carlin line)
(not Eli)
Just think how stupid the average Jest fan is, and then realize that half of them are even stupider! ( a parody of a George Carlin line)
by PhinsTifosi on Mar 11, 2011 12:01 AM EST up reply actions
My opion
Trade down to pick up the 2nd rounder if possible. Get te best O-line guy possible at that spot. 2nd round pick grap Keap or Ponder.
by Douglas M. Scalzo on Mar 11, 2011 1:30 AM EST reply actions
brady quinn
i think the fins should make a trade with the broncos for brady quinn . quinn is a big strong guy with a great arm , he can run .he can make all the throws , he’s smart (notre dame) and he sees the whole field.brady never got a real shot with the browns due to manginis own insecurities, then he gets traded to the broncos where he supposedly is going to fight for the starting job with orton and no sooner does he get there the broncos draft tebow and quinn is on the outside looking in again.the fins could probably steal him from the broncos at this point. for virtually nothing,a low draft pick or a couple of throw in’s. i feel that quin is a perfect fit for the fins he played a pro type offense at notre dame under charlie weiss he’s very familiar with the offense the fins run and if you remember him at notre dame you know how well hes sees the whole field real well and knows where all his guys are. norte dame was a throwing offense. quinn right now is better than henne and thiggy.. and i’ll bet hed love to come down to florida and play for the fins. i think he can step right in and do the job . his vision down the field is as good as anyones. and he can throw the long ball as good as anybody. he’s the guy i want to see running the dolphins offense this season!
Brady Quinn is an outstanding choice...
If Miami wants to improve their chances of drafting higher in 2012 in hopes of drafting Andrew Luck. I wouldn’t mind so much if Quinn was our 3rd string or even our backup. If Quinn started games for Miami, I’d be very concerned.
If the main guys we've bantered are gone
this is a nice toss from left field.
You guys just Email me because I will have smashed my flat screen.
Elevator smell different to midget. -Chinese Proverb
Why can't women put on mascara with their mouth closed?
Who owns this shithole? - Will Muny
I think John Beck can still do it if given the chance
"The Bitterness of poor quality remains, long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
"Are we not entertained?!" -- Russell Crowe ‘Gladiator’ voice
That's not what "she" said . . .
Just think how stupid the average Jest fan is, and then realize that half of them are even stupider! ( a parody of a George Carlin line)
I heard he's engaged to Marie Osmond
so I hope he can still do it.
Elevator smell different to midget. -Chinese Proverb
Why can't women put on mascara with their mouth closed?
Who owns this shithole? - Will Muny
Found the link
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/2011hopefuls/JohnBeck,Weds-MarieOsmond-Auburn.htm
As reported from UtahBikes.com…It is reported that Marie Osmand, the fiance’ of John Beck…due to unknown reasons, has become the “official” ‘stand-in’ hiker for her husband-to-be! His quote…“I love her because she is so turned around.”
However, things get edgy as she continually gets frisky when bending over to hike the ball. According to John…..“she’s always loved a challenge.. like when I’ve come in the back door…unexpectedly!”
Becks future has been on the ‘back burner’. So….the question is…
IF the Dolphins take a chance…..can he come from behind, in tight situations?
When asked….Marrie just smiled and said….lets do the hike “drill”!
This was all I could get on it!
Elevator smell different to midget. -Chinese Proverb
Why can't women put on mascara with their mouth closed?
Who owns this shithole? - Will Muny
by Flip-her on Mar 11, 2011 9:32 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
ROFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just think how stupid the average Jest fan is, and then realize that half of them are even stupider! ( a parody of a George Carlin line)
by PhinsTifosi on Mar 13, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Satire is a beautiful thing.
Elevator smell different to midget. -Chinese Proverb
Why can't women put on mascara with their mouth closed?
Who owns this shithole? - Will Muny
Ponder or Kapernick.
2009 NY Phin PhansFantasy League Champion
2009 Best Regular Season Record in NYPPL.
2010 The Jim Mandich NewsFlash Award Winner.
""It only ends once. Everything that comes before is just progress"
Ponder Dick and Kaperstick....
"The Bitterness of poor quality remains, long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
"Are we not entertained?!" -- Russell Crowe ‘Gladiator’ voice
dolphins quarterback
straight up….. chad henne for carson palmer!
As two sides trade blows
and are posturing toward a war, unfortunately one side feels the need to prove they have a sack, and pulls the trigger. Then after a couple of months…both sides wish they could turn back time and start over. IMO, this League/Union war is going to be one of those times.
What has been most frustrating to most of us fans is the ‘secrecy’ from behind these doors. The feedback from WikiLeaks is that secrecy equates to ‘sneakiness’ from someone, and that has been the general feeling here!
I have tried to be neutral… even though I know the owners look at me as a financial miscarriage, because I work. Then again, players make more money than most of us will ever see, but they bust their hump like most fans. Plus, I would rather live my life vicariously through a player, than an owner] So I tend to gravitate toward the players.
Sidebar: Before Tagliabu retired, he allowed certain Union policies to be approved, contrary to the owners liking. This was a cosmetic issue concerning his retirement status, [These can be easily researched] however, this one-upance’ has been festering for years.
Now that these ‘closed door’ issues have become manifest, I must admit I am surprised by how close both sides were on such a wide field. I am also surprised by how far the league “seemed” to move toward the center of these negotiations. The sicking side for the League was full disclosure of the books. This will never happen [Think IRS], although they were opened wider than in the history of ownership. So…why did the Union walk over this?
What I also cannot understand is why the owners did not extend CBA talks, when they were moving foreword so fast. This put the players between a rock and a hard place, because once the CBA expires, players are banned from filing any court documents for 6 months. This forced the players to file, moments before CBA ended.
So…where does that leave us? First, there is no ‘lockout’, nor is there ‘decertification’ . This lies in the hands of Judge Doty. Basically, he must determine whom, if anyone, violated good-faith mediation. If he finds in favor of the League..there IS a ‘lockout’, no decertification, and no football. If in favor of the players, and desertification… there is no lockout and we will have some type of football. In the meantime, the “Players” [without Union help] can still mediate with owners.
Both Unions and Owners are ‘sneaky’ and this is now in Judge Doty’s court. [pun intended] I just want my football! Sadly, I feel in a couple of months, both sides will want to turn back time!
For more on what transpired behind these closed door negotiations:
Elevator smell different to midget. -Chinese Proverb
Why can't women put on mascara with their mouth closed?
Who owns this shithole? - Will Muny
Just to clarify my above statement
although both sides have CLAIMED ‘lockout’ and “desertification”….only one side is within their legal rights to do so! It is up to Judge Doty to hear the evidence on anti-trust, and it’s the court who will determine who was wronged, and who’s claim is legal.
The Union has openly expressed their full support in helping the players with legal representation, and perhaps this is why the owners let the CBA time lapse. If the players accept this offer, the League may shrewdly use this as a trap to claim that the Union is, in fact, still working behind the scenes for the players…which will screw the players if is ruled in favor of the League! Sneaky…!
Hey…it’s complicated, but I tried.
Elevator smell different to midget. -Chinese Proverb
Why can't women put on mascara with their mouth closed?
Who owns this shithole? - Will Muny
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