Which free agent should Miami Dolphins make top priority to re-sign?
Without a new collective bargaining agreement being reached between the players and owners, we are going to have to wait longer than normal for free agency to begin. If there isn't a new CBA in place by March 4, teams will not be able to sign available free agents nor will they be able to re-sign their own impending free agents.
While on the surface, some might think this benefits teams who have a number of key free agents because it allows them more time to evaluate their own players and make a plan for how they will spend their money this offseason, this actually adversely affects these teams in regards to their own free agents. Because of the rules currently in place that turned 2010 - known as the "final league year - into a year without a salary cap, teams must abide by something called the "30 percent rule." Essentially, the rule was put in place to try and keep spending under control and one of it's side effects is how it restricts teams from re-signing their own free agents. Basically, teams can't give a player a salary this year that is in excess of a 30 percent increase from their previous year's salary.
Therefore players that outplayed their recently expired contract cannot land that large pay day they were probably hoping for. What this means for a team like the Dolphins, for example, is that re-signing a player who has earned a fairly dramatic raise isn't possible between now and March 4 because league rules prevent the kind if raise that the player (and his agent) are seeking. However, if a new CBA is reached after March 4, there's a very good chance there will be no grace period in place for teams to attempt to re-sign their impending free agents before the hit the open market as unrestricted free agents.
It goes without saying that this will make it a bit more complicated for teams to retain their own players. One of the things the Dolphins, like most teams, will have to do is prioritize their own free agents and decide which player they must re-sign first. So I wanted to ask all of you who you believe this front office should make a priority to re-sign once a new CBA is finally reached. Below are some possibilities.
Ronnie Brown - The 29 year old back is coming off of a down year. But he loves Miami and would welcome a return assuming the Dolphins make an offer to him that he deems is acceptable. I still think he has a lot left in his tank and feel like he didn't get a fair shake in 2010 because of the struggles of the team's offensive line. But the price would have to be right.
Ricky Williams - Ricky has had an up and down career in Miami. He'll be 34 this offseason and did just recently make some disparaging remarks about head coach Tony Sparano. With Bill Parcells no longer around, Ricky's time in Miami might have come to an end.
Richie Incognito - His attitude issues were well documented when the Dolphins took a chance and signed Richie to a one year deal last offseason. The team's faith in him paid off as Incognito never fell back into his old ways during his one year in Miami. He also played well for most of the season, in particular when he got some time working as the center. You have to assume the Dolphins will be seriously considering re-signing Incognito to be the team's starting center full-time in 2011.
Paul Soliai - The big man in the middle of Miami's defense is coming off of a monster year. As expected, he'll be looking for a monster contract as well. Armando Salguero has a very informative piece about Soliai over at the Herald's site. Armando lays out the situation well. Paul is going to hit the open market and it'll be up to the Dolphins to hand over the cash to ensure he stays. But it is easy to understand the team's hesitation. He's had weight issues and is coming off of a break-out season when he happened to be in a contract year. Will he sustain his high level of play? Considering how difficult it is to find a nose tackle in this league, particularly one that has shown the kind of ability Soliai has, this is the guy I think GM Jeff Ireland needs to make his top priority.
Tony McDaniel - This reserve defense end is quietly coming off of a very productive season. But now he's looking for an expanded role and (likely) starter's money. The Dolphins already have two very good starting defensive ends in Kendall Langford and Randy Starks. They also have 2010 first round pick Jared Odrick returning this year after missing most of last year due to injury. Phillip Merling has also shown enough promise to make me think McDaniel, as good as he was in 2010, is expendable at this point.
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Keep both Soliai and Incognito
OL needs to establish an identity. This would help.
You cant direct the wind but you sure can adjust the sails!
Be yourself. Everyone else seems to be taken anyhow.
Studies have shown that 23% of all institutionalized mental patients
are capable of living normal lives in a productive society.
The other 77% are Jets fans.
Duh moment
^^ coffee hadnt kicked in. Not gonna use my NT on the OL
But Incognito and Soliai both should be priorities.
You cant direct the wind but you sure can adjust the sails!
Be yourself. Everyone else seems to be taken anyhow.
Studies have shown that 23% of all institutionalized mental patients
are capable of living normal lives in a productive society.
The other 77% are Jets fans.
LOL
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all these guy or any would be fine but I put other, meaning MANKINS everybody else is replaceable, then i would sign Soliai, then Richie
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I like soliai,
but should we pay big bucks for a one year wonder?
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sign Incognito and Mcdaniel.
Sign ronnie, and draft Ingram. Seriously, after watching some tape, Ingram is starting to grow on me. Didn’t like him at first, but he looks like a safe pick at 15.
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no.
Just think how stupid the average Jest fan is, and then realize that half of them are even stupider! ( a parody of a George Carlin line)
no RB in the 1st.
QB or OL in the first.
Just think how stupid the average Jest fan is, and then realize that half of them are even stupider! ( a parody of a George Carlin line)
I agree with no RB in the 1st
I think the best thing for our RB situation is resign Brown (assuming he will come fairly cheap) and draft a change of pace back in the 3rd round (such as Locke).
On the "get Jake Locker in the draft no matter what it takes" bandwagon
Or flip it
and draft Demarco Murray and sign Darren Sproles.
On the "get Jake Locker in the draft no matter what it takes" bandwagon
Sproles would be a good pickup, good change of pace back
that would upgrade our ST right away.
On the "get Jake Locker in the draft no matter what it takes" bandwagon
But too much money, i think
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See my response 7 above. :)
Not my first choice but an option.
On the "get Jake Locker in the draft no matter what it takes" bandwagon
i think we could let go of both Cobbs and ricky
But we should re sign Hilliard,and Sheets. And if the price is right,Ronnie as well. Hilliard did well in the minutes he was given,and did well filling in for Lou. You don’t get rid of that versatility
by dolphinfan4lyfe on Feb 9, 2011 3:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
i think we should only carry 3 active running backs next season
instead of the 4 we had on active roster this season, so signing Lex to me doesnt really benefit us.
i think we could let go of both Cobbs and ricky
But we should re sign Hilliard,and Sheets. And if the price is right,Ronnie as well. Hilliard did well in the minutes he was given,and did well filling in for Lou. You don’t get rid of that versatility
by dolphinfan4lyfe on Feb 9, 2011 3:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Agree....a Center!
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We need the QB.
Undecided between Kaepernick or Ponder. I’ll just say Pondernick. There.
You cant direct the wind but you sure can adjust the sails!
Be yourself. Everyone else seems to be taken anyhow.
Studies have shown that 23% of all institutionalized mental patients
are capable of living normal lives in a productive society.
The other 77% are Jets fans.
Nono
He means to melt them down and create a hybrid quarterback, with the size, arm strength and durability of Kaepernick, and the intelligence, accuracy and decision making of Ponder. And we will call him…
Pondernick
Crank open the skylight!
I hear a thunderstorm coming!!
You cant direct the wind but you sure can adjust the sails!
Be yourself. Everyone else seems to be taken anyhow.
Studies have shown that 23% of all institutionalized mental patients
are capable of living normal lives in a productive society.
The other 77% are Jets fans.
I guess that makes CanT0o Dr. Frankenstein.
But the Gene Wilder young Frankenstein, not the weird serious guy.
by vincemoss86 on Feb 10, 2011 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
I'm intrigued, does he still playing for them?
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yeah i think so
i saw the link on yahoo, watched it and was amazed…. curious as to why hes the third string QB….. making throws blindfolded impressed me the most….
Looks small, proabably a freshman
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either way....
i think its something to keep in mind….
ls it possible to be that accurate??
I know nothing about computer imagery but could those vids be photoshopped?
You cant direct the wind but you sure can adjust the sails!
Be yourself. Everyone else seems to be taken anyhow.
Studies have shown that 23% of all institutionalized mental patients
are capable of living normal lives in a productive society.
The other 77% are Jets fans.
Soliai all the way
We need to rebuild on O, not dismantle a successful D. He’s shown huge improvement under Nolan. Tag him this year. Would probably cost us top 5 money to get hin under contract anyways, so by using the tag we get to see if he can repeat the performance before committing next year!!
by Armchair QB on Feb 9, 2011 7:50 AM EST via mobile reply actions
no...there is
though the players union is trying to fight it. But the NFL told teams that they can use the franchise tag until the CBA expires.
If they can franchise and transition tag somebody, they should franchise tag soliai and transition tag Incognito
If they franchise him they have to pay him the as one of the top linemen in the league therefore circumventing that 30% guideline, but is his body of work deserving that kind of payday??? In my opinion Ronnie and ricky do not deserve to be tagged nor McDaniels, but I would try to re-sign McDaniels and Brown as well.
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I did not know that.
Thanks Matty. I would tag both McDaniels and Soliai if it were up to me. Why mess with such a strong unit?
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Think it is the same as before
1 franchise tag and 1 transitional tag
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It's a franchise tag OR a tranisiton tag....you can't have both
The franchise tag is the average of the top 5 players’ salaries at the position, or 120% of the player’s previous salary…
The transition tag is a “right of first refusal” tag – basically turning the unrestricted free agent into a restricted free agent – but without the compensation.
And there are actually two types of franchise tags. The first is the exclusive tag, which means the player gets the average of the top 5 players at his position for the current year salaries, and he cannot negotiate with another club.
The non-exclusive tag allows negotiation with other teams, but the current team his first right of refusal, giving time to match the offer sheet. The player is given the average of the top 5 salaries at his position from the previous year’s salaries, if he doesn’t sign with another club, obviously, and, if he does go to another team, the current team is given two 1st round picks.
Make sense?
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Knew all the details but for some reason I was thinking there was 1 of each
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I may have to take it back
Apparently, the Eagles today franchised Vick and transitioned Akers, which is 100% against everything I have ever heard about the two tags. But, if they did it, then I guess it can be 1 of each.
Confused…..
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I always thought there were two franchise tags for some reason.
I must have been thinking of the transitional tag.
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Sign Soliai, Incognito long term & Ricky to 1yr deal
Even better would be to sign Mcdaniels and trade Odrick or Merling for picks, ideally a 3rd, more likely a 4th.
Also, I would consinder using the Franchise Tag on Soliai or Incognito …
On the bright side, if a couple of guys leave and become starters elsewhere, they may bring compensatory picks in 2012 … if the rule is confirmed by the new CBA, of course.
No way Ricky comes back to Miami
Jared Allen has nightmares of Jake Long.
Ph.D. in Applied Jest Statistics.
Draft DJ Williams advocate.
Ricky smoked himself off this team....
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I meant spoke... LOL!!!
Yeah, right.
"The Bitterness of poor quality remains, long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
"Are we not entertained?!" -- Russell Crowe ‘Gladiator’ voice
So you want to trade a guy we drafted in the 1st just last year
for a 3rd or 4th round pick? If we trade anyone on the DL it should be Starks as we can get a lot more for him than anyone else.
On the "get Jake Locker in the draft no matter what it takes" bandwagon
3-4 DE is the easiest position to replace
it is the deepest position on the team and Starks is the only player with some trade value that wouldn’t be a major hit.
Do I want to trade Starks, no, but he is the only tradeable (that has value) asset we have. Go ahead and keep Starks but as long as we stay with that mindset we will remain a borderline playoff team at best. Good teams maximize their assets and right now Starks is more valuable as trade bait (maybe we can get a 1st rounder out of Oakland for him, lol).
None of it matters until the CBA is signed anyways.
On the "get Jake Locker in the draft no matter what it takes" bandwagon
I'm not "staying with that mindset"
I was calling for a trade of Ronnie Brown after the 2008 season. Starks is too good for us and teams would use his low numbers from last season as leverage against giving us a high draft pick. The value we would get from him is not as good as what he gives us by being on the team. What do you want? A 4th? Do you expect anything higher? And would you expect a 4th, even a 3rd, to come in and produce like Starks has been able to? Much less have the versatility of switching between NT/DE over an offseason and being able to play both quite well?
Hell no, there is no real value in trading Starks.
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This^^^^
I love Carey….but business rules. Trade Carey! Because he is so good he has trade value, however, his new 4 million contract is a bit much!
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i like the idea
of franchising soliai, i think incognito’s body of work over his career is enough proof he can be signed long term. mcdaniel has played well enough to become a starter, but not in Miami. we have a lot of depth along the D-line and i want to see what these young guys can do. i think ricky has run himself out of miami, i would support ronnie coming back, if we could get another back to pair him with. (Reggie Bush or Micheal Bush come to mind).
im not as think as you drunk i am occifer.....
no way
Franchising him would mean he gets a 1 year deal in the 10+ million dollar range. And there is no way he is worth that kind of money!!!!!!
I say resign him for what he’s worth middle of the pack starting NT. That might be $5-8 mill a year tops.
so if a team like
the jets offer soliai a a contract worth 9.5 mill. would he not be worth it then?
im not as think as you drunk i am occifer.....
by frostyphinfan on Feb 10, 2011 12:20 AM EST up reply actions
Paul Soliai
Was it because of a contract year or Nolan? IDK and, IDC sign him. Sign Incognito put him at center. If you can sign, Ronnie to a modest contract and get a speed back to compliment him.
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Ricky is toast.... with marmalade...
"The Bitterness of poor quality remains, long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
"Are we not entertained?!" -- Russell Crowe ‘Gladiator’ voice
Well, I've heard some things about blacks...
… wait, wrong bolg….
"The Bitterness of poor quality remains, long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
"Are we not entertained?!" -- Russell Crowe ‘Gladiator’ voice
How did we jump on Ricky?
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"Permanence, perseverance and persistence in spite of all obstacles, discouragements, and impossibilities: It is this, that in all things distinguishes the strong soul from the weak." Thomas Carlyle
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You've seen him naked, didn't you?
"The Bitterness of poor quality remains, long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten."
"Koa Misi -- the A.J. Duhe of this decade!"
"Are we not entertained?!" -- Russell Crowe ‘Gladiator’ voice
This is all wrong
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by Neo on Feb 9, 2011 2:46 PM EST up reply actions
Yes ^^
If it aint broke, dont fix it. Our D aint broke.
You cant direct the wind but you sure can adjust the sails!
Be yourself. Everyone else seems to be taken anyhow.
Studies have shown that 23% of all institutionalized mental patients
are capable of living normal lives in a productive society.
The other 77% are Jets fans.
Good teams always look to upgrade and get better at all positions.
On the "get Jake Locker in the draft no matter what it takes" bandwagon
Help at the safety position
and an upgrade on Crowder. Otherwise our D is coming along well, taking injuries into consideration.
You cant direct the wind but you sure can adjust the sails!
Be yourself. Everyone else seems to be taken anyhow.
Studies have shown that 23% of all institutionalized mental patients
are capable of living normal lives in a productive society.
The other 77% are Jets fans.
and an upgrade at CB, we really should get a great CB
I don’t think we will get one this draft / FA, so here’s to Carrol’s improvement!
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Sadly I think both rbs should not be resigned
I would like to see the dolphins go after Michael bush and see if he can turn into Michael turner leaving the chargers for the falcons. We all know how that worked out.
I do not want deanglo Williams no matter what.
Also keep incognito.
If we can addras the rb situation via fa then we don’t have to use the NFL draft to get our rb which pretty much is the worst place to obtain your rb unless your getting ap cj or s jax in early rounds. Then we can pick Ryan mallet at 15, a guy that can rip it & learn. Plus he’s physically an anomoly.
by DRoyce on Feb 9, 2011 9:00 AM EST via mobile reply actions
The problem with that
is The Draft is likely before FA, which means if Michael Bush goes to another team we have failed to address one of our biggest needs during the offseason.
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he is not a free agent
We shuold extend him but that should be after the pre season starts.
Way to be on the sidelines... LOL
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Building a champion takes depth
Solai is the priority because it’s hard to find a big guy that can clog up the middle. But let’s not overpay for someone that has a history of being fat and lazy.
Incognito was a real good pickup on the O-line where we made tons of mistakes. Once again sign him as a starting center but don’t break the bank.
Brown or Williams: We are not signing both so we really have to get Brown if the price is right. If not try to re-sign Ricky and he can be the feature back with Hillard spelling him. Then we can look to the draft for more backs.
Mcdaniel: Rotating the line puts so much pressure on the other team. Specially when you have quality depth. Try to keep him but don’t break the bank
The main point here is that we really have nobody that dominated last year that’s a free agent this year. Except for maybe Solai and he is a one year wonder. Take our money and spend it on our weak point O-Line and Quarterback.
As I mentioned last night
I am pretty sure you can put conditioning clauses into the contract (I believe this is common for NT types and OL). I agree that as long as Soliai is reasonable (ie not Wilfork or Ngata type money) then we need to do what we can to sign him.
On the "get Jake Locker in the draft no matter what it takes" bandwagon
losing Tony McDaniel
is also a really tough blow. The rotation that we implement, with the quality depth we have on the D-line is key to our lines success. We keep players fresh and are rarely ever playing anyone who isnt starting quality. We still dont know where Odrick and Merling fit into this rotation. Merling is coming off an injury and didnt play very well down the stretch of 2010 and Odrick is so young and so raw and coming off a season ending a huge question mark still lingers there as well.
Id resign Incognito,Brown,and McDaniels
Id let Solai walk,if another team signs him,don’t we get a draft pick anyways? We cannot afford to keep him,and pay him what he would be looking for this year.
Move Starks back to NT,and our DE rotation would be McDaniels,Langford,Merling,and Odrick. Which benefits us because it allows us to offer McDaniels the added playing time he’ll be looking for.
by dolphinfan4lyfe on Feb 9, 2011 10:34 AM EST via mobile reply actions
How do you plan on utilizing said draft pick
if The Draft is before Free Agency?
This is a key concept that people are repeatedly missing in this thread.
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Condtional draft picks depend on who we sign as well
not to mention we wouldn’t get them until next year assuming they have them. So if Soliai walks and we sign someone like Mankins we wouldn’t get any compensation draft picks (keeping everything else equal)
On the "get Jake Locker in the draft no matter what it takes" bandwagon
I disagree
and Joel is right in regards to the pick, it wouldnt be a 2011 draft pick anyway. Paul Soliai completly changed our Defensive line this season. Completly changed the dynamic. He has devoloped into a terrific force in the interior line. People have a tendency to talk about his performance being “a breakout season” which it was, but emphasizing that it was in a contract year. Thats the part i dont buy. NT is a hard posistion to play, being a great Nose Tackle requires tremendous physical ability, great conditioning, lots of film study, but also smarts. Paul Soliai has the smarts. He has always been a smart player, but conditioning and weight problems have held him back.
What im saying we are really lucky to have a player with as much instinct and tenacity as Paul has. He plays smart football, he gets in throwing lanes, he reads blocking assignments extremely well. The type of player that Soliai has become is not easy to come by.
by civwarbuff on Feb 9, 2011 12:20 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
+2 @ civwarbuff
Damn the sheriff, Bring on MARSHALL LAW
by fin4three5yrs on Feb 9, 2011 7:06 PM EST up reply actions
Its funny that not long ago we had NT WARS around here
With most folks saying that Soliai was worthless. Now most people think he’s our first priority.
Its a tough one to decide though. I always rooted for him, due to his size, I thought he had a chance…….but it definitely stinks of contract year heroics. But NTs are hard to find………
I say the most deserving would be Incognito. A crappy line in a tough year in a tough division and he held his own. Hopefully he’s as good of a center as we’re hoping!
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Good food for thought...
I’d sign Incognito and Soliai…and maybe Ronnie. There are several free agent backs that can handle the workload that Ricky had last year, and give us the same or in most cases, better, production. McDaniel had a good year in a supporting role…while he may want to start, he’s obviously working well in the position we had him in…and not as a starter…perhaps we could sign and trade him, if the right offer came along.
Unfortunately, with the draft likely going before free agency, it’s hard to say what we’re going to do…would be an interesting topic for another thread sometime…what would happen if the draft was always before free agency??
Keep Incognito
but Soliai is still a question mark. Although he played very well ‘last’ season’, he was only ‘OK’ the previous 3. And his paycheck goes from $900K to $4+ million! I’d like to see the FO talking with Haloti Ngata [like they’re doing with Mankins] and pay ‘him’ the money, as he’s proven he has the ‘consistancy’ and dominance it’s going to take to win our division.
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ooops. Gave Soliai Carey's paycheck?
pain meds have their down side -shit
Elevator smell different to midget. -Chinese Proverb
Why can't women put on mascara with their mouth closed?
I dont think Ngata would ever leave the Ravens
he’s wayyyyy too important to them
Looks like it's time for a little "Chazzle Dazzle"
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Money talks.And I agree with Flip-her if you have the shell out the big money I’d go after Ngata.But Ngata wasn’t on the list so Soliai would would be my main priority. Next would be Incognito he was the best on the line after Long. As much as I like Ricky I think hes time is up as a Dolphin. Maybe bring Ronnie back. I think he still can be a factor running and catching the ball. But the price has to make sense. We’d still have to sign another one as a free agent or the draft. Or maybe both. Would like to sign McDaniels, but where would he start.And he’ll more then likely wont starters money.
by NawlinsPhinPhan on Feb 9, 2011 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
With Incognito at RG
and Mankins [who is posturing hard toward being a Dolphin] at LG, then we trade down… aquire a couple more picks, and pick up a VG center like O’Dowd.
That would be a hell of an offensive line, plus we have a couple more picks, to boot. If Ngata [who is on the list because of Soliai] doesn’t want the money…I guess we’ll see if Soliai had a fluke season or not.
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Why can't women put on mascara with their mouth closed?
Re-sign
Now that’s the key word in this sentence. Not to be picky, but the question was".Which free agent should the Miami Dolphins make their top priority to re-sign?". He even gave us a list of players to select from. That being said I’d love to get Ngata if the Ravens don’t re-sign him.
by NawlinsPhinPhan on Feb 10, 2011 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
FA being after the draft will drive FA prices up
as teams will no longer be able to fill their holes in the draft if FA doesn’t pan out and FAs and their agents will use this to their advantage.
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keep Soliai and Incognito
Ronnie needs a change of scenery,
Ricky can have his wish and join the Jets… Wake will break his jaw but dont worry, he can still smoke through his nose.
We already have like 15 defensive ends so no need to overpay McDaniels.
Expectin big things this year from the front office.
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Feb 9, 2011 12:46 PM EST reply actions
These are our own players BessT, they at least deserve a decent exit. None of them
performed worst that our core coaching staff. (3 yr tenured coaches)
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by fin4three5yrs on Feb 9, 2011 7:10 PM EST up reply actions
Solai!!!
after him id say it goes: Incognito, Brown, Williams, McDaniel. I know he played well, but i believe McDaniels to be fairly expendable. We dont NECESSARILY need him (although if we can get him for small $ definitely take him). I like our DL rotation without him honestly. And Ricky pissed me off with those comments about Sparano. But we gotta keep Ronnie! I own 4 (wearable) dolphins jerseys and 2 of them are Ronnie’s! lol
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It sucks that the business side of the NFL is mucking up teams' personnel decisions.
I think it’s important to remember that no matter what issues Soliai has had, he was still worth a 4th round draft pick coming out of college. He sat behind Jason Ferguson for his first couple of years, and only saw the playing field in limited time until 2009. It took him a half season to transform himself into a dynamic NT.
He was proactive, hiring a new agent and making efforts to transform his image. He also hired a Miami based agent. I’m pretty sure he wants to stay in Miami, especially since he has become a centerpiece (literally) of a top ten defense.
Is anyone else a little worried about letting go of a defensive end like Tony McDaniel because a defensive end with character concerns is coming off of injury (Merling)? What is that all about?
I hope Ronnie Brown comes back, and I agree with Matty about him. He is definitely “NFL young” because he’s missed so much time due to injury.
Richie Incognito is a solid lineman, and if it’s possible to solve the center position without utilizing the draft/FA, then I say give him a shot.
A couple of things I heard in this thread that interested me… Randy Starks and Vernon Carey could have trade value. What do you guys think of this? I love Starks as a player but if the Dolphins could land a future draft pick or fill some holes on offense by unloading him, it could be the best situation. Odrick, Merling, Mcdaniels, Langford and Soliai make up a pretty damn good line!
by vincemoss86 on Feb 9, 2011 1:58 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
hit the nail on the head,
you did.
We gotta get picks (CBA notwithstanding) which means we gotta trade someone worthy of a pick.
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Trade Merling if you are going to trade anyone on the D-Line
Starks is just too valuable to trade and we are not going to get an adequate return on letting him go. I’m fine with trading Carey. I thought we shoulda drafted his replacement in 2009.
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He really is just a passing down interior rusher.
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Bell and Crowder
I’d trade Bell and Crowder while they still have value. We already have Bells replacement in either Clemons or Jones.I’d prefer Clemons at SS and Jone at FS. Jones seems to be more of a play maker. The defense seems to play better when Crowder was on the field, but he was hurt far to often to help. I’d also throw Carey in the mix. He really hasn’t looked the good the last couple years.And we could use some of his salary for upgrades.That’s three more players not drafted by this regime
by NawlinsPhinPhan on Feb 9, 2011 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
5 games
He also missed the Browns game. That’s almost a 1/3 of the season. He hasn’t played a complete season since 06. He’s missed 5,1,3 and 5 games respectfully. That’s almost a full season out of four. His best season was this regimes first. He had a career highs in tackles posting 113,PD’s 6 and FF’s 1,buy no sacks or INT’s. The front office rewarded him with a new contract. The past two season combined he totaled 91 tackles.5 PD’s 1 FF and 1 INT. And he can give credit to Wake for the pressure he put on Brady forcing the pick. His career totals are tackles 469,PD’s 17,sacks 2.5 and that 1 INT already mentioned. Now compare Danbys career numbers. Tackles 648, 29 PD’s,14 FF’s, 28.5 sacks and 10 INT’s. Two returned for TD’s. One of his TD’s was in a playoff game and it was the reason they went to the Superbowl. In his first season with the Phins Dansby numbers look better then Crowders last two. He posted 95 tackles,4 PD’s ,3 sacks and 2 FF’s. We need our ILb’s to be play makers.
by NawlinsPhinPhan on Feb 10, 2011 5:31 AM EST up reply actions
That is all stats.
And does not tell the entire story. Our run defense was horrendous both last year and 2009 when Crowder was out and when he came back in there was an instant upgrade. The man knows how to fill holes (he he), and forces the runningbacks to try and go at Dansby. Combined with Misi apparently forcing runners at Wake’s side, Crowder makes it nigh impossible to run at their side. He also motivates his team on the field.
The man has way more value than those stats show.
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I agree with you on Carey having trade value
especially with his enormous 400% pay increase this year.
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Incognito Solai and Ricky
Thats who I would keep out of that group. Incognito and Solai are obvious because of the key positions they will fill. We only need one out of Ronnie and Ricky and of the two I think Ricky going on 35 is still the superior back of the two. Ricky with a young RB out of the draft and we will be fine for the next year or so.
Incognito and Solai
We need to slap Solai with the franchise tag if is available and sign Incagnito to a long term deal. If Solai performs well next season then give him the big pay day he wants. Move Incagnito to certer, trade back in the first round and get Pouncy and a second round pick. Use the second on a speed wide receiver or another offensive lineman. Use the third pick on the best TE that can stretch the field. With the rest of the draft get a speed running back, more depth on the o-line and a CB/FS.
In free agency try for Mankins, although I think he will be tagged and Deangelo Williams or Michael Bush.
Sign Incognito, Solai, and Mcdaniel
All 3 are assets and worst case good trade bait.
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If they dont...
resign Big Paul, I will be very very irked, to say the least. They basically got lucky with him, as his first 3 years he was beginning to look like a bust. There’s a rumor going around that they wont offer him a contract. WHY!? Do they not realize the importance of a dominant nose? i KNOW Nolan knows how valuable he is. If they didnt resign him, they’d dish out money to some other guy via FA or waste a draft pick on one when we have a perfectly good one. As long as we have a good D Coordinator like nolan, Soiai will produce. Keep the big guy.
by Fintastic4andMore on Feb 9, 2011 7:59 PM EST reply actions
i just cant see it happening.
coming into the season we didnt even know what we going to do at the position. Jason Ferguson was suspended for the first 8 games and then eventually retired. After the draft we made the decision to move Randy Starks to Nose which he had played in alimited role, even in the 3-4 defense in Miami but never as a starter, whilst playing Kendall Langford at DE and potentially having Jared Odrick start as well at DE. Right out of the gate injuries continued to plauge the D-line, Merling became inactive and Odrick was lost for the season.
To watch paul Soliai step in, in that situation, and play the way he has has been mesmerizing. Paul Soliai is an infinetely better player now than he used to be. He is played smart, disiplined, physical football all season, some of the things he has displayed throughout the year have left many jaw-dropped. Paul Soliai has become a force in the center, and we have really lucked out in having him, without him on the line, i gaurantee the dynamic would have been completely different this season, For someone to come so far so fast not only shows intelligence and ability but also tremondous commitment and tenacity. Our defense really isnt the same without him. We have to pony up the cash to resign him.
by civwarbuff on Feb 9, 2011 8:19 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Soliai
Franchise tag him if you dont think he isnt worth a long-term deal, but DONT let him walk for God Sake! that would be a HORRIBLE idea.
by Fintastic4andMore on Feb 10, 2011 2:31 AM EST reply actions
We have to resign Soliai.
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