State of the Miami Dolphins Roster: Outside Linebackers
This post is part of a series of posts that will break down and evaluate the Miami Dolphins position by position. If you haven't read up on how players are being classified (the number and letter that follow each player's name), you can read this post explaining the evaluation system. You can also read the previous posts in this series by clicking here.
There probably wasn't a unit that entered the 2010 NFL season with as many question marks as the Dolphins outside linebackers. Gone were veterans Jason Taylor and Joey Porter, who had combined for 16 sacks in 2009. And Porter was just one year removed from his 17.5 sack performance in 2008.
The front office, though, felt like it was time to move on. They wanted to get younger and more athletic at the position. Clearly the decision paid off.
Cameron Wake (1-A). What can you say about Wake that hasn't already been said? The former CFL star proved to be everything we thought he might be, leading the entire NFL in a stat I like to call "stops behind the line of scrimmage" - the sum of the player's total sacks (14) and tackles for a loss (12). Cameron just turned 29 and will only continue to get better as he gets more NFL experience. Jason who?
Koa Misi (2-C). Misi had an up and down rookie season. But for a guy playing a position that was essentially new to him, Koa held his own and certainly gives us all reason for optimism. He got better as the year went on as a guy who can set the edge. He may have had just 4.5 sacks, but he did also add in 5 tackles for loss. His non-stop motor and great work ethic make me believe Misi will eventually develop into a good pass-rusher.
Ikaika Alama-Francis (3-E). IAF was a guy who the coaches seemed to grow fond of in training camp. But an illness just before the start of the regular season ended up costing Ike a starting job. He ended up playing in 11 games, all as a back-up. His strength was supposed to be as a run-defender. But with Misi developing well, Alama-Francis is nothing more than a back-up at this point.
Quentin Moses (4-F). This former 3rd round pick has now been in Miami for over three years since being released by Arizona - the second team to give up on the promising draft prospect. In his time, he's somehow managed to avoid getting churned by this coaching staff. But he has rarely ever flashed and now at 27 years of age, it might be time to cut bait.
Mike Rivera (4-F). Signed off of Green Bay's practice squad late in December, this former undrafted free agent out of Kansas spent all of 2009 on Tennessee's practice squad. For his one game in Miami to close out the year, Rivera was inactive. Odds are he's nothing more than camp fodder.
Contract situations: Quentin Moses will be a free agent this offseason whenever a new CBA is reached. Depending on the terms of the new agreement, Moses could be a restricted free agent. But most likely, with four years of NFL service under his belt, Moses will be unrestricted. Ike Alama-Francis, it's worth noting, only has one year left on his deal and will be a free agent after the '11 season.
Outlook: As we previously discussed, the Dolphins could surprise and spend a high pick on a pass-rusher to play opposite Cameron Wake. But most likely, the Dolphins will look to add depth behind Wake and Koa Misi. The draft and free agency are both in play here considering IAF is the primary backup at OLB as of right now.
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i'm down...
for drafting a pass rusher, i really see us trading down in the first round. i wonder who will be left at the bottom of the first
...yay
...I'm drunk and pessimistic
cam newton is a fig newton... just another fruit cake who thinks he's hard but he's really soft. Can't wait 'til this overpaid chump looses his heisman.
I'd agree with the assessment on koa
but where did you get the tackles for a loss numbers? because i heard the way the phins track tackles for a loss was by counting sacks, half sacks and tackles behind the line of scrimmage. Seems like his 5 tackles for a loss you said he has would equal his 4.5 sacks based on this
I love our starters. Misi is only going to get better. He had an outstanding rookie season. Wake is just a beast. If we are going to draft a OLB it would likely be a project that has strengths in pass rushing like Dontay Moch. He’s has 4.3 speed. No that wasn’t a typo. He needs some work but is a freak athlete.
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by 54 on Feb 23, 2011 5:32 AM EST via mobile reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtube_gdata_player&v=1PT3GoRCKY8
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by 54 on Feb 23, 2011 5:41 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Karlos Dansby?
Maybe I’m missing the point of “the state of” series, but why Karlos Dansby and Channing Crowder missing from this list?
by PhinnyFromItaly on Feb 23, 2011 7:02 AM EST reply actions
there not OLB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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We often look rite past the positive's cuz the negative's-r-so hard they dominate!
by wild zion beaver on Feb 23, 2011 7:04 AM EST up reply actions
Lol, this is why you get into trouble!
"Football is a game played with arms, legs and shoulders but mostly from the neck up"
People who work together will win, whether it be against complex football defenses, or the problems of modern society.
by Carl Johnson a.k.a CJ on Feb 23, 2011 9:43 AM EST up reply actions
not reading the fine details
"Football is a game played with arms, legs and shoulders but mostly from the neck up"
People who work together will win, whether it be against complex football defenses, or the problems of modern society.
by Carl Johnson a.k.a CJ on Feb 23, 2011 1:13 PM EST up reply actions
fine details?
i was just laughing at what beav said. go look again at his user name and then mine. Lol
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by civwarbuff on Feb 23, 2011 2:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
kudo's cw
wopper "the king" computer
We often look rite past the positive's cuz the negative's-r-so hard they dominate!
by wild zion beaver on Feb 23, 2011 6:33 PM EST up reply actions
lol wow.
boy do i feel like an idiot…nobody respond to that!
by PhinnyFromItaly on Feb 23, 2011 5:20 PM EST up reply actions
I would have to say our OLB needs some help.
Wake cannot do it all by himself. We need a rusher from the other side. Then our Defense is top 5 in the league.
Our defense is already there.
We finished at #6 because The Pats walloped us twice. We finished the season at #6… is it so difficult to believe that Koa Misi will get better with another offseason?
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Draft The Newtron Bomb!
Koa Misi + offseas = Top 5
We were already Top 5 for most of the year until The Patriots bent us over their collective knee.
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dont be stupid – pick ingram n save us fom bein without a bigtime back next season
Not much point having a bigtime back....
If you only have smalltime gaps to run through…I’d take O-line support before Ingram….don’t get me wrong, I like the guy…but he’d have a frustrating season without a solid O-line to block for him. Now, perhaps through FA we can get that line (assuming that can be done before the draft) up to snuff…and yeah, sure, Ingram isn’t a bad pick.
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i always thought we might move ike to inside linebacker with his run stopping skills.
Like he would be in on running downs and edds on passing downs with dansby holding down the fort. Chrowder can be traded at that point and have dobbins back up dansby.
by west coast phinfan on Feb 23, 2011 10:12 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Why would you have Ike do something that Crowder is already very good at?
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well ike is just about as good as chrowder in run stopping
But ike comes a lot cheaper and with a lot less attitude.
by west coast phinfan on Feb 23, 2011 10:35 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
ike is a former def end.....not sure if it would be smart to move him to yet another position
Just one mans opinion...
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by MagicDolphin on Feb 23, 2011 2:51 PM EST up reply actions
There isn't much proof that Ike is as good as Crowder,
nor is there any proof that he would work at the ILB position. And considering he is up for a new contract next year, he would only be cheaper (if he were indeed as good as Crowder) for this season only, yet he would be less effective as he learned a new position.
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i like our olbs and think it would would be a mistake to draft an olb first round
think about it with wake in for a big contract fairly soon and dansby plus a first rounder. thats dedicating a ton of cap space to our lbs. not so sure. i think og is the way to go in the first round after we drop down to grab another 2nd.
keep chad henne
5th round picks safety bandwagon (clemons/jones)
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by ronnie brown for president on Feb 23, 2011 10:16 AM EST reply actions
Idk,im really liking Justin Houston out of Georgia
If anything he’d be able to step in right away,allowing Koa to move inside. He can be had around the number 20 pick in the first round,or the 21st and is the third highest ranked LB behind Von Miller and Akeem Ayers.
His addition would give us a pass rush specialist that’s good at setting the edge outside the run if he’s the highest ranked player on our board I wouldn’t be upset adding him into the fold.
Adding Sidney Rice from Minessota,"chad greenway got their franchise tag,and perhaps the runningback from carolina,as well as perhaps shockey could fix a lot of our offensive woesand add 3-4 wins to an average total
by dolphinfan4lyfe on Feb 23, 2011 5:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Shockey Released by Saints..
Anyone think the Phins should snag him? We do need another TE & Shockey can stretch the field with good hands.. Although we all know he brings ‘baggage’ with him…
Thoughts? ( I know it’s off the subject, but what the heck…)
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Don't know....
He’s 30…has a lot of baggage…and I believe was due to earn $4.2M base salary in the final year of his contract. Could he regain some of his success with the Giants? Hard to say. Not sure what money we could get him for if we did go that route.
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With Koa grinding the best pass rushers
and plays, coupled with strong input from Cox, IMO he can become a 1-A. Trade down for Watkins (G) and Housler (TE).
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Koa Misi is extremely underrated.
People complain about his lack of pass-rushing skill and overlook the fact that he is a rookie playing a new position. Not to mention he spends a lot of time on the weak side going against left tackles. With the addition of Brian Cox as “pass rush coach” I think Misi stands to make some significant improvements to his game. He’s a high character guy, a relentless worker, and a talented athlete.
The thing about Quentin Moses is that he barely gets any playing time. He is a pretty talented athlete and i’ve seen him make an impact in his limited time. That’s probably the reason he is still on the roster. With him and Ike Francis serving as the primary backups, the Dolphins are pretty much set at OLB.
The best thing the Dolphins can do is look for a developmental guy in the latter parts of the draft. The Dolphins drafted Chris McCoy (a sack artist from the Sun Belt Conference) in the seventh round of the 2010 draft. He hung around on the practice squad for a while and was eventually picked up by the Steelers. I think that the Dolphins will probably go after a similar prospect in the sixth or seventh rounds this year.
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Dontay Moch for depth that guy is freak
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by Carl Johnson a.k.a CJ on Feb 23, 2011 1:13 PM EST up reply actions
That's the nice thing about the 2011 draft
There’s a ton of great defensive talent. Someone like Moch (who is actually projected to go as high as the second round) could slip far enough for the Dolphins to grab them. Kind’ve like how Reshad Jones was around in the fifth round. If Moch doesn’t slip, someone like Jeremy Beal (Oklahoma) or Martez Wilson (Illinois) surely will. Both of those guys are great pass rushers with a ton of upside.
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For the record
If you want my prediction for who the Dolphins would go after late in the draft at OLB, it’s K.J. Wright from Mississippi State. He’s a “high character” guy and has a lot of upside. Projected as a fourth round pick right now, but with the way this draft is structured he could be around as late as the seventh.
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I think 2nd round is too high for Moch. I think he’s super raw and would need at least a year of grooming before he’s ready to start. The crazy thing is if he has good shuttle times he may be able to play ILB lol. But yes he’s a freak and I could see teams reaching because of it.
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by 54 on Feb 23, 2011 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
http://espn.go.com/blog/ncfnation/post/_/id/38354/dontay-moch-transitions-to-linebacker
lmao says Moch can run a 4.2 and lower. If true, that’s almost non human.
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by 54 on Feb 23, 2011 4:36 PM EST up reply actions
Realistically he is going to run in the high 4.2's
It all depends on who is holding the stopwatch. I read an article today on ESPN insider talking about him that’s what they were predicting.
Chief Engineer of the Torrey Train
That will be interesting to watch at the combine. 4.2 Is still unreal for a DE/OLB
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Rusty Smith! (Titans future qb)
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by 54 on Feb 23, 2011 4:48 PM EST up reply actions
Hybrd is what we (Miami) is all about!
Nolan watch this!
wopper "the king" computer
We often look rite past the positive's cuz the negative's-r-so hard they dominate!
by wild zion beaver on Feb 23, 2011 6:44 PM EST up reply actions
Moch would be a great fit for the Dolphins
With his speed he could match up with the most athletic of the tight ends. The only problem is that he is probably going to require a second round pick when all is said and done. Probably not a good idea for the Dolphins to spend a 2 on a defender this year.
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by vincemoss86 on Feb 24, 2011 12:08 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah but it's all hype.
If Ted Ginn Jr. (and i’m a TG fan) taught us anything, it’s speed is not everything. He could end up being a tremendous player or he could be a total bust. There’s a reason he’s not projected as a top ten pick (which you’d think with that speed he would be).
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This is a defensively heavy draft with most teams having huge holes on D.
Expect a lot of defensive picks.
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EarthCWake HITS Southern California MAGNITUDE 9.1
DRAFT: FIRST Mike Pouncey 6-4 310 C/G Florida; THIRD Colin Kaepernick 6-4 225 QB Nevada; FOURTH Schuyler Oordt 6-6 246 TE Northern Iowa; FIFTH Zach Hurd 6-7 325 G UConn; SIXTH Mario Fannin 5-11 228 RB Auburn; UDFA: Josh Portis 6-4 205 QB California (PA)
Two Thoughts:
(1) Isn’t Mike Rivera more of an inside linebacker?
I was impressed with him and was hoping the Fins would draft him in the late rounds last year.
He runs a 4.63 40 yard dash…
Looks like Ireland saw something too.
(2) Depending on what happens with Tony McDaniel, couldn’t Ike Alama-Francis be moved
to DE in the 3-4? Seems like he might have more of an impact as a rotation/wave player in that context…
He’s a good athlete and can offer some pass rush ability
DRAFT: FIRST Mike Pouncey 6-4 310 C/G Florida; THIRD Colin Kaepernick 6-4 225 QB Nevada; FOURTH Schuyler Oordt 6-6 246 TE Northern Iowa; FIFTH Zach Hurd 6-7 325 G UConn; SIXTH Mario Fannin 5-11 228 RB Auburn; UDFA: Josh Portis 6-4 205 QB California (PA)
DONT draft defense in early rounds PLZ
OK. did you guys see how the pack won the superbowl against an elite defense. WR depth and a great QB, spread offense.
We have an (almost) elite defense at the moment, we are only missing another solid CB or ball hawking saftey to be elite. I hope that R. Jones becomes that safety, and we should def start him over clemons.
However, we need more speed on offense to really make a run at the division next year. Besides the jets nobody has an good secondary in our division (and yet Chad Henne seems to throw for ridiculous numbers every time we play them at home).
We need to look at getting more weapons for our QB to throw to before we start looking to get a pass rusher.
In the draft I say our first 4 rounds should focus on:
WR
TE
Speedy RB. (PLZ not ingram)
and Our O-line. RT or LG.
sounds good to me,
...yay
...I'm drunk and pessimistic
cam newton is a fig newton... just another fruit cake who thinks he's hard but he's really soft. Can't wait 'til this overpaid chump looses his heisman.
by naf snihplod on Feb 24, 2011 4:18 AM EST up reply actions
I completely agree
I think the Dolphins should have a board consisting of guys like these:
Nate Solder
Tyron Smith
Mike Pouncey
Kyle Rudolph*
Torrey Smith
Jonathan Baldwin
The runningbacks are all similar and there’s noone that really stands out. For this reason the Dolphins can probably grab a guy in the third or fourth round at a great value. Someone like Demarco Murray makes sense.
*Kyle Rudolph is at a premium because he’s the only tight end that stands out in a depressingly weak class.
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by vincemoss86 on Feb 24, 2011 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
The Pack won because they won the turnover battle.
Pittsburgh was still in it the entire game because of their elite defense.
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true...
however pitt only started putting up points when the pack D got hit with the injury bug.
I think an upgrade in our secondary will make us a top 3 D. but I agree we need to make sure our offense hold on to the ball. and for longer.
An upgrade in O-line and skill positions will do this and allow are D to rest and not worry bout short fields like they did frequently last year.
...hard to score points when you turn the ball over....
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We need a "fridge"....
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