Dolphins restructure CB Will Allen's contract to keep him in Miami
The Dolphins may have instantly upgraded their nickel corner position today with the news that the Dolphins and Will Allen have come to terms on a restructuring of his deal, keeping him in Miami in 2011 - the final year of his deal.
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Benny Sapp is terrible.
He needs to be cut and Al Harris should be re-signed.
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I would be onboard
with that, Davis, Smith, Allen, Caroll & Harris would be a pretty decent group of CB and a good mixture of youth and vets.
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i mean i doubt we keep 6 corners....
and we should’t draft one so Sapp might be the odd man out even though he played decent… that would suck because that would mean we pretty much dropped Camarillo for no reason
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Even at the time I wished we got a draft pick for him instead
Even a 5th rounder, considering the players we got in the 5th the last 2 drafts it may just turn out to be a very good player!
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Not only that,
but Minnesota didn’t use Camarillo much at all, even while Sidney Rice was injured and Percy Harvin was running the wrong routes. Just another fuck up by Childress IMO. Camarillo was exactly what that passing game needed, a polished route runner that could catch anything thrown his way.
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even his butt would catch the ball
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thats true Joel but i think Chilly isn't the only one to blame,
Favre had his worst year as a QB and never really seemed like he had the magic
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Favre may have had a bad year,
but he is not the reason why Cammy was rarely on the field.
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agreed.
it was actually a good trade for both teams at the time but i feel we used the trade more to our advantage..
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Yeah,
they definitely sat on a clutch 3rd down converting machine.
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I would give him clutch, but not 3rd down converting machine
Bess owned that title even when Cammy was here.
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yes
but not near as much as Bess did. You could say that Camarillo was a Jr 3rd Down Converting Machine in Training….that would work
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Please show me the website where you have this information.
Camarillo was a 3rd down beast before his ACL tear in 2008.
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good route runner, smart, amazingly soft hands and physical.
He wasnt the same receiver at all after his injury. I am happy though to see him having success in Minnasotta, hes a hard worker and he deserves it.
You can't expect him to be fully recovered from a late
season ACL tear the very next season. I bet he’s fully recovered by now.
And yeah, he is an overachiever through and through. He’ll make it in this league a few more years at least.
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Here is the link
I will break it all down for you later…actually trying to get some work done while at work ; )
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link
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/9030/situational;_ylt=AvQEbP90SVzL2089JXNCdXv.uLYF
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Thanks for the link.
I didn’t know yahoo had such good situational stats.
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No prob
yeah, they even have some stuff sometimes that Stats LLC doesnt. So, back to my arguement, here is how it breaks down:
2008:
Cammy – 8, 1st down conversion catches on 3rd down
Bess- 24, 1st down conversion catches on 3rd down
2009:
Cammy – 30, 1st down conversion catches on 3rd down
Bess- 56, 1st down conversion catches on 3rd down
2010:
Cammy 10, 1st down conversion catches on 3rd down 42, 1st down conversion catches on 3rd down
Bess
Now you might argue that he was the man before Bess arrived in 08, so in 2007 Cammy caught 8 1st down conversion catches on 3rd down.
So you see where I am coming from here? Bess is the king of that category. In fact, if you combined Cammy’s 07,08, 09 and 2010 seasons it only exactly equals Bess’ 09 amount. I think I made my point.
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dont know why that strike-through is there
I didnt type it that way? oh well, just try to ignore it.
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You make a good point,
but the original argument was that Cammy is under-utilized in Minnesota so Bess being the king of 3rd down was just a tangent :P
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Yes, no doubt
I cant believe that they dont use him more in that role. But I do enjoy the little tangents :p
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Ness is also good.
WA is coning off of two season ending injuries. Harris is a better vet IMO.
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I disagree i actually think Benny Sapp is pretty good.
I think he progressed through 2010 alot, he isnt a perfect player, but for a nickel corner i have no real physical knocks on him, they are all fundamental. I think as a whole, when you look at his body of work in 2010 he had a pretty good season.
Agreed! I really like this move
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Feb 10, 2011 6:13 PM EST up reply actions
Great job!
His leadership will only help the secondary this year.
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The Good: We will have a competent nickel CB this season (Barring injury)
The Bad: We still have Sapp
The Ugly: WHY THE HELL was Allen put on IR last year when he could have returned during the season had he been put on the PuP list?
The Optimistic: Maybe Ireland is learning to hold on to talent that can help the team.
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by TheFinReaper on Feb 10, 2011 11:35 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
people rip on Benny Sapp
because of a few big plays he gave up, mostly mind you were in man on man coverage, but as a whole i think he is alot better than people give him credit for. i am not displeased with that trade at all. Benny Sapp is almost the same player as Nate Jones and performs the same role as he used to. I dont prefer Nate Jones.
Jones >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sapp
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Jones
I liked Jones also,but agreed with everything he said except the last sentence.
by NawlinsPhinPhan on Feb 12, 2011 5:49 PM EST up reply actions
Carrol and Harris were better corners last year. That means
that he was really the Dime guy when we got Harris (Carrol didn’t get a lot of snaps) and with WA coming back that means he’s our fifth CB and I would rather keep a young guy like Ness over a vet at that position.
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this is surprising...
i was for sure he would be one of the contracts we would let go. This is good news as long as he’s healthy though, he’ll be the best nickel we’d have and still have Carroll, Harris and Sapp (though one of those might not make the cut next year)
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Sapp or Harris will be the odd ones out
Carroll has too much potential ATM.
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Sapp
I’d keep Sapp. It looked like he started to pick up the system the more he played. With a full off season he could be solid depth. Oh and when did Carroll get into ATM’s.Lol. just playing I know you was saying AT THE MOMENT. right?
by NawlinsPhinPhan on Feb 10, 2011 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
Al Harris, Carroll, and Allen are already solid depth.
Why would you keep a project for depth? If you think Harris is going to walk that’s one thing, but there is no way Sapp is worth keeping over any of the 3 aforementioned CBs.
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Cam Crush?
Hey I liked Cam too, but he was expendable. He’s was our 4th receiver at best. We needed a corner, they needed a receiver we made the trade.IMO we came out the winner. Sapp did way more for us then Cam for the Vikings.His gone. So is Harris and I doubt we bring his old @ss back.
by NawlinsPhinPhan on Feb 10, 2011 6:45 PM EST up reply actions
???
Why are you bringing Camarillo into this? I just stated that every other corner on the roster are better than Sapp. Why would you want him?
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My Bad
I thought you bought Cam up. It was BSeriuos,but you sure was defending him. I thought you disliked Sapp, because of the trade.We only signed Harris for veteran leadership. Getting Allen cancels out Harris. His services are no longer needed. He’s 36 years old and coming off major knee surgery,before signing with Dolphins. What did he last three weeks before we put him on IR for a hamstring pull. Now he’d be an excellent DB’s coach and that’s about it. I never said Sapp was great, but I’d that him over Harris.And buy the way he has the best hands on the team. Not saying that’s a good thing,but he double the INT’s of any the defenders on the roster at the end of the season. And he only had 2. What civwarbuf said sums it up.
I disagree i actually think Benny Sapp is pretty good.
I think he progressed through 2010 alot, he isnt a perfect player, but for a nickel corner i have no real physical knocks on him, they are all fundamental. I think as a whole, when you look at his body of work in 2010 he had a pretty good season.
by civwarbuff on Feb 10, 2011 2:41 PM PST up reply actions
Now you are entitled to your opinion. So lets just agree to dtsagree.
by NawlinsPhinPhan on Feb 12, 2011 6:38 PM EST up reply actions
Harris?
My brain is on idle mode…who is Harris?
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Oh, Al
duh! But technically he is a UFA…
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sapp
To be cut..breaking news..that’s what this deal means..lol maybe harris too..I like that they gave allen a good solid year off..he’s a pretty good corner..above average forsure! Love my dolphins! Hurry it up cba!we want asemuah! Crazy name good player..haha
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by dolfan702 on Feb 10, 2011 12:59 PM EST via mobile reply actions
nice to have him back
but does he not still have to serve a suspension for that DUI he got while driving his Ferrari and yelling at the cops to let him through?
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ohh i totally disagree with you Matty
hes is coming off of almost two full seasons of injury, he had legal issues in that span, iwill be 33 years old by the start of the 2011 season and was consistantly being beat in coverage at the beginning of 2009. I thought through 2008 to 2009 he was slowing down and both his footwork and attitude were deteriating.
Benny Sapp offers alot more than Will Allen.
wow
Benny sapp can’t give us shit more than allen..will allen is 10X better than sapp..no one said will is a starter..but he will be awesome at the slot..or 2nd corner..but sapp is garbage and can’t cover a parked car..ewwww benny
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by dolfan702 on Feb 11, 2011 1:15 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Actually, in 09 he was a very good corner and was the 3rd best CB
when it came to % of pass completed when thrown at.
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by 54 on Feb 10, 2011 6:32 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Will Allen knows how to catch the ball.
So did Jason Allen, whom we dropped for Sapp. Just sayin.
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