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Peyton Manning in Miami Dolphins' Future?

Could Peyton Manning be preparing to ask for a way out of Indianapolis?

Earlier this year, the talk among Miami Dolphins fans was all about Stanford quarterback Andrew Luck. Would the Dolphins actually be so bad this year, they would complete 2011 by earning the top spot in next year's draft, and thus the right to snag the "best prospect since Peyton Manning?" The Dolphins have managed to win 4 games over the last 5 weeks, and taken themselves right out of the "Andrew Luck Sweepstakes" while Manning's team, the Indianapolis Colts, are winless and seem destined to pick the Heisman finalist.

But, assuming Manning's neck heals, what happens when the Colts have Manning and Luck?

"I don't think it'd necessarily be great for either one," former New Orleans Saints quarterback and Peyton's father, Archie Manning told FOX Radio yesterdau. "I think Andrew's the type of mature player ... he can walk right in. I mean, these other three or four (rookie passers) that are playing this year, (if) they can walk in and contribute, Andrew can, too."

Suddenly, it looks like the possible trade demand won't be a power play by Luck, but rather Peyton Manning.

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"I used to play with [Luck's] dad [Oliver - they were teammates with the Houston Oilers]. ... I'm in New York, I heard from him last night," Archie continued. "Peyton's also tried to help Andrew and kind of be a friend. I doubt if either one wants to play on the same team."

Peyton Manning has had three neck surgeries over a 19-month period, with the most recent being back in September. That surgery was a single-level fusion in his neck, as doctors attempt to alleviate the nerve damage in the quarterback's neck. Last week, Manning was cleared to add more effort to his workout routine - he's not yet able to fully practice, but he is throwing more now, and lifting weights again. His recovery seems to be on track.

And, that recovery could be key to the Manning family's next move. This is the same family that worked a draft day power play for Peyton's younger brother Eli. In the 2004 draft, the San Diego Chargers held the first pick, and were clearly planning to select Eli with that pick. Eli, and then Archie, both stated Eli would refuse to play for the Chargers if they selected him. The Chargers would eventually pick Eli with the top spot, and then trade him to the New York Giants for Phillip Rivers, and two additional draft choices.

So, would Peyton try to find his way out of Indianapolis? Would the Colts trade their future Hall of Fame quarterback? Would they look elsewhere with the first pick in the 2012 draft?

There are a lot of questions and possibilities in all of this. But the biggest question is, if Peyton wants a trade, and the Colts will honor his request, where would he go?

Enter the Miami Dolphins. The Dolphins are currently on a three game home winning streak, and have won four of their last five games. The Dolphins have demonstrated, despite starting the season 0-7, that they are competitive, and don't have many holes to fill. Miami could be seen as a desirable destination for a quarterback nearing the tail end of his career, a quarterback looking to make a push for the Super Bowl.

Would the Dolphins consider this as a possibility, knowing they are only going to get 3- to 5-years out of Manning?

If not the Dolphins, who else would make sense for the 11 time Pro-Bowler? Looking at teams that are close to a championship contender, but should be looking for a quarterback to make that run, one other team jumps out - the New York Jets. The team has already demonstrated a desire to bring in a quarterback simply to try to win now (see the Brett Favre experiment). They are standing behind their current quarterback, Mark Sanchez, but are clearly not as enthralled with him as they once may have been.

Plus, that would put both Peyton and Eli in New York. The marketing opportunities and the family reunion could be enough to make that the destination of choice for the elder Manning brother.

In the end, if Peyton Manning is healthy, and the Colts are going to draft Andrew Luck, and Manning wants to make the power play move out of Indianapolis, and the Dolphins would consider the price the Colts would ask, this could all come down to a very familiar battle.

New York Jets vs. Miami Dolphins. The winner could bring Peyton Manning back into the AFC East.

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NOOOOOOOOOOOO! I do not want another past his prime QB.

Shame on Archie for creating a controversy, he should learn how to shut up, his kids are big boys now and can speak for themselves.

by FinFinatic on Dec 7, 2011 10:13 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

If you're Peyton Manning and past your own prime

I doubt you’re past the prime of 99% of the quarterbacks in the league.

by zerkcs on Dec 7, 2011 12:07 PM EST up reply actions  

well said..might I add...
Would the Dolphins consider this as a possibility, knowing they are only going to get 3- to 5-years out of Manning?

Take our current team (which is head and shoulders better than the Colts without Manning) + Manning = 3-5 Trips to the playoffs. Sure … put me down for that…. We can still draft a QB at some point to come in and learn behind Peyton Manning?

SUCK FOR LUCK!! 2012 will mark exactly 13 years since Marino retired
"it will take the Dolphins 13 years to replace Dan Marino at QB"-- Omar Kelly
"if you ain't first, you're last," --Ricky Bobby

by Jason Scott_90 on Dec 7, 2011 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

^This^

The way we are currently playing + Manning could make us Superbowl prospects for the next 3-5 years!

by MassFinFan65 on Dec 7, 2011 4:05 PM EST up reply actions  

The guy isn't past his prime.

Good God.

More of Moore in 2012!

'Phins phor Liphe!

by joel311 on Dec 7, 2011 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

You act like the dude is 40 years old! I think he can come in and win right away.

Haters gon' hate...

by TAYDIGGA on Dec 7, 2011 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

If Peyton Manning ends up in Miami without the Dolphins surrendering a high pick (most likely acquired through FA)...

I would probably have an erection for a week that would prevent me from rolling out of bed.

- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.

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by Finhead83 on Dec 7, 2011 10:15 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

I agree.

Assuming we don’t give up anything too high, he’d buy us a couple years to draft and get a young QB at least a little ready for prime time. He’s got a lot of those “intangibles” that made Pennington valuable on the team even when he didn’t perform well. Though he’s in a different class than Pennington.

by Mr. Imperial on Dec 7, 2011 10:37 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree, Imagine if they trade for him but still draft Griffin?

I’d have one for four years, let alone four hours

I do think Moore deserves a shot though, he’s earned it with us.

by phinsphan85 on Dec 7, 2011 10:38 AM EST up reply actions  

i love moore,

but peyton gets the start over moore all day every day. Moore has potential played his way into good trade bait. If we aquire Peyton, we may be able to wrangle a 2nd or 3rd round pick for moore.

a wise man once said..."My cats breath smells like cat food"
My love for THE MIAMI DOLPHINS is unconditional...period!
Win for pride, Win for us fans!

Go Dolphins and beat those Eagles!

by Phinphinatic on Dec 7, 2011 10:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Steady now

If we get Peyton we WILL want a serviceable backup. He’s old. Who’s to say he won’t get injured?

by zerkcs on Dec 7, 2011 12:08 PM EST up reply actions  

You're going to want that no matter who your QB is.

People need to stop acting like Peyton is a huge injury plagued QB that can have his career finished at any moment. Technically, yes, his career could be forced to an end at any moment due to injury. Jake Long, Reggie Bush, Matt Moore, Brandon Marshall, Cameron Wake, and all of Miami’s players have that same risk.

- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.

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by Finhead83 on Dec 7, 2011 12:29 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

If you have an erection for a period of over 4 hours please contact your nearest doctor.

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by PhinsAllDay on Dec 7, 2011 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Hahahahahahahaha

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by Alpha6 on Dec 7, 2011 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

either that or your nearest escort . . .

Just think how stupid the average Jest fan is, and then realize that half of them are even stupider! ( a parody of a George Carlin line)

by PhinsTifosi on Dec 7, 2011 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

If it's there for 4 hours, "she" better call a doctor lol

founding member of the dolphins really old bastards fan club GO PHINS... TO THE GRAVE BABY!

by daytonadolfan on Dec 7, 2011 5:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Peyton would be perfect.

He can play. He can teach. And he can quickly win us a championship. Most importantly he can teach, we can look at a late first round early second round qb that will be happy to learn from manning also for us to beat Brady and fat f$&@ Ryan would be awesome

by fsu_csu on Dec 7, 2011 10:37 AM EST reply actions  

Peyton was a bad teacher...

and thats the main reason for the Colts to trade him if they draft Luck…
But like Bengals-Palmer case, Colts dont let him go for free, and will want a trade like Palmer’s trade…

by David Leal on Dec 7, 2011 10:42 AM EST up reply actions  

lets be real

the main reason they would separate would be money, then playing time, then bad mentoring…

a wise man once said..."My cats breath smells like cat food"
My love for THE MIAMI DOLPHINS is unconditional...period!
Win for pride, Win for us fans!

Go Dolphins and beat those Eagles!

by Phinphinatic on Dec 7, 2011 10:56 AM EST up reply actions  

a bad teacher?

Really that is what you are blaming the fact that Curtis Painter sucks? If not please enlighten me… what are you referring to?

SUCK FOR LUCK!! 2012 will mark exactly 13 years since Marino retired
"it will take the Dolphins 13 years to replace Dan Marino at QB"-- Omar Kelly
"if you ain't first, you're last," --Ricky Bobby

by Jason Scott_90 on Dec 7, 2011 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

painter... nuff said

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by daytonadolfan on Dec 7, 2011 5:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Painter is a 2nd year QB

Do you really expect Peyton to make anyone a great QB in a year? If that was the case, the Colts might as well just pass on Andrew Luck and take someone like Jacory Harris in the 6th or 7th round…

- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.

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by Finhead83 on Dec 8, 2011 8:11 AM EST up reply actions  

First things first. Those that wont think it would cost too much in a trade,

Remember, Carson Palmer required multiple draft picks, including next years first.

The next thing to note, is this rumor that he would be a good mentor to a young QB. If that was the case, Curtis Painter would be playing at least like Matt Moore. Yet he is not.

The last thing I want to make a note of, is that with.last weeks performance, Matt Moore has moved up to the 10th ranked player.at the position QBR wise. Which is what we all said would be what it would take to be an elite team with a shot at the title.

The end result is this. People would have to make a choice, do you want Peyton, or one of the QBs in this draft class, because we will not be able to get both. While the injury may drop his trade value some, the main thing is that the new QB will need weapons surrounding him. Ones that can only be obtained through the draft and free agency, the former being the least expensive, and we all know their owner only gets deep in pocket in regards to Manning. So he will not be willing to get too soft on the amount of draft picks he is willing to take in trade.

My take, is let Moore finish out his contract, and see where we stand come draft day. If we fall out of reach of selecting a top ranked QB in the first round, make the trade to bring Peyton to Miami, we wont be able to do anything til draft day anyways.

But perhaps this is good news that will help the uneasyness of the draft status of this team. Peyton is a viable plan B that both sides can be happy with.

by dolphinfan4lyfe on Dec 7, 2011 1:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

...
Remember, Carson Palmer required multiple draft picks, including next years first.

That’s the Raiders we’re talking about, though, and they’ll overpay for anybody.

Not saying Peyton won’t have a high asking price, but still.

Fields, on the follow!

by nygmp42 on Dec 7, 2011 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

So, it's looking like there wouldn't be a way for Peyton to be traded

this article on PFT explains that if they sign and trade him the Colts absorb the cap hit, which no team wants to do!

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/07/colts-cant-pay-and-trade-peyton/

by phinhead on Dec 7, 2011 10:46 AM EST reply actions  

Correcta-mundo

Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. -H.L. Mencken.
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."

by Alpha6 on Dec 7, 2011 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

The main positive of getting peyton is that we could use our 1st pick on something other than a qb

If we can get him for cheap, then i would rather draft a RT, Safety or OLB with our 1st, then get tannehill in the second or third.

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by AnishB15 on Dec 7, 2011 10:48 AM EST reply actions  

Colts will want at least 1st round pick for him...

like Raiders give for Palmer they could ask 2 1st ropund picks

by David Leal on Dec 7, 2011 10:54 AM EST up reply actions  

colts really cant trade him

peyton wont allow it.

a wise man once said..."My cats breath smells like cat food"
My love for THE MIAMI DOLPHINS is unconditional...period!
Win for pride, Win for us fans!

Go Dolphins and beat those Eagles!

by Phinphinatic on Dec 7, 2011 10:55 AM EST up reply actions  

I thought the issue

was that the Colts would owe Manning something like 28 million if he’s on their roster after a certain date, which is before he can be traded. So either he stays with the Colts, or they cut him. No trading.

by thulsa on Dec 7, 2011 2:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Correcta-mundo

Gets exciting, huh

Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. -H.L. Mencken.
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."

by Alpha6 on Dec 7, 2011 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

i would like nothign more than some stability on the right side..

A stud RT would be amazing at this point. It is hard to not want a QB of the future, but how much better could we be with an upgrade to Columbo?

a wise man once said..."My cats breath smells like cat food"
My love for THE MIAMI DOLPHINS is unconditional...period!
Win for pride, Win for us fans!

Go Dolphins and beat those Eagles!

by Phinphinatic on Dec 7, 2011 10:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Peyton wont be traded

He has an opt out clause in his contract that he can exercise if he decides to in the offseason.
http://www.theindychannel.com/sports/29940894/detail.html

He would be an unrestricted free agent and free to sign anywhere he wishes.

This in itself would be the most obvious reason for the Miami Coaching staff to stay put. Outside of bringing in Dungy, Cower, or Gruden, Manning is very unlikely to sign witha team that is trying to find its way. He would be more likely to take advantage of a team that has solid WRs and a stable coaching foundation. I could not imagine a reality where I would not want Peyton Manning on my team. With the warm weather, he may have Miami high on his list of potential destinations.

a wise man once said..."My cats breath smells like cat food"
My love for THE MIAMI DOLPHINS is unconditional...period!
Win for pride, Win for us fans!

Go Dolphins and beat those Eagles!

by Phinphinatic on Dec 7, 2011 10:53 AM EST reply actions  

No! Just No

Peyton is a HOF player but we should not invest in a guy who has had 3 neck surgeries in less than 2 years. Jones, Barkley or RG3 any of those 3 should still be on the board.

People who are saying Peyton could come in and teach. Anyone remember a guy that was under him called Curtis Painter.

I would rather use the picks to trade and get 1st pick and Andrew Luck rather than Peyton

by LimeyPhin on Dec 7, 2011 11:07 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Is it possible that Painter is a 1st class scrub?

Maybe Peyton HAS mentored and taught Painter, and what we saw was a much improved version. I’m not really familiar, but what was Painter like in College?

by Pastor C on Dec 7, 2011 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

If end with 7-9 or 8-8

are a lot posibilities to can’t get Barkley, RGIII or Jones…

But I dont want to trade for PM…. if he use the clausele to be FA and can sign him was other story…

by David Leal on Dec 7, 2011 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

This is also Painter's second year in the league

It’s not like Peyton had all those years to tutor him. He spent a single year with him. Jim Sorgii was Peyton’s primary backup for most of his years.

- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.

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by Finhead83 on Dec 7, 2011 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

But Peyton spends all his free time at the stadium...

It would be easy for him to aqquire game film and see for himself what Painter needs to do to improve and work on it with him.

Instead he is making sure people know that he is working hard to return before the season is out.

Face it, Manning likes, no loves the spotlight. He is not willing to groom anyone that is a risk of taking his job, or spotlight away.

by dolphinfan4lyfe on Dec 7, 2011 2:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Peyton has to be focused on rehabilitating his injury and that is what he's doing.

He hasn’t been trying to stay in the spotlight at all. He’s been pretty quiet on most fronts and is normally not the one to make statements. Polian is talking more about Manning than Manning is himself. I don’t buy anything you just said.

- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.

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by Finhead83 on Dec 7, 2011 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

That is insane ..

1. How much game film would Manning have to study to get Painter playing like a decent QB? Do you really think that is a good use of your starting HoF QB’s time? Doesn’t Painter have a QB coach that gets paid to do that?

2. Manning’s job is not to teach or groom Painter. His job is to get healthy at this point and get back on the field. You don’t want your starting QB worried about teaching a QB clinic to the rest of the scrubs in the QB meeting room, you want him to focus on winning. They have the opportunity to watch what he does and mimic it. If they have questions they can ask him. But his job is not to teach them. His job is to be a HoF QB and hope that he rubs off on them.

3. Do you honestly think Manning won’t help Painter because he is worried he will take his job? I didn’t think so.

SUCK FOR LUCK!! 2012 will mark exactly 13 years since Marino retired
"it will take the Dolphins 13 years to replace Dan Marino at QB"-- Omar Kelly
"if you ain't first, you're last," --Ricky Bobby

by Jason Scott_90 on Dec 7, 2011 10:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Honestly...what exactly do you want Peyton Manning to teach a guy like that?

I mean, Manning should have taken more time and coached some Pop Warner kids in the Indianapolis area, but he was busy going to the playoffs.

SUCK FOR LUCK!! 2012 will mark exactly 13 years since Marino retired
"it will take the Dolphins 13 years to replace Dan Marino at QB"-- Omar Kelly
"if you ain't first, you're last," --Ricky Bobby

by Jason Scott_90 on Dec 7, 2011 4:17 PM EST up reply actions  

so do you really want to compare Peyton Manning to RG3?

I am not sure we can get either of the other 2 if we wind up playing like this for the rest of the season. If we have the chance at either of the first 2 guys I say we pull the trigger and pick them anyway. Then we give them a few years behind Peyton Manning and see what they can do. I am not really big on RG3 to be quite honest.

SUCK FOR LUCK!! 2012 will mark exactly 13 years since Marino retired
"it will take the Dolphins 13 years to replace Dan Marino at QB"-- Omar Kelly
"if you ain't first, you're last," --Ricky Bobby

by Jason Scott_90 on Dec 7, 2011 10:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Some reasons not to...

1. Trent Green, Dante Culpepper. Bad History with injured retreads.
2. Complete team dynamic and wage structure overhaul – can we even afford everybody else if we pay Peyton?
3. It’d be nice to win with our own QB not because we took someone else’s hall of fame reject.

still … if he went to the jests and got over his injury, that’s an interesting problem to have in the division – Brady x2 and Manning x2 each year!

by Armchair QB on Dec 7, 2011 11:33 AM EST reply actions  

I guess 1. goes along the same line with Drew Brees.

- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.

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by Finhead83 on Dec 7, 2011 11:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah,

1. Drew Brees, Brett Favre, Joe Montana, Kurt Warner (Cardinals), all made it within one game or made it to the Superbowl.

by phinhead on Dec 7, 2011 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

A good chance is a good chance, right?

Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. -H.L. Mencken.
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."

by Alpha6 on Dec 7, 2011 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Just for a laugh as a Jets fan I'd like to add something

We had a similar discussion like this for Manning if the Colts did draft Andrew Luck.

My problem is that, and with any team who would trade him is honestly 3 questions.

Do you have the protection to keep him upright given his neck injures?
Do you have a team that he would want to play for? I.E. Superbowl capable, not just able to win?
Is it worth it?
Assuming he’s fully healthy you can probably get 2-3 maybe years out of him. If you are giving up something from the draft, it will take at least 3 years to recover and get first/second round talent again.

Also as mentioned before the man has a salary that would leave most teams limp and fearful, look at the Colts now. How are they doing now? horribly cause all the money went to Manning, they pay key players and pray to the ghost of Lombardi every year that those players work out. Wanye, Freeny, Mathis, Clark, just to name a few. They don’t have a run game, and their defense plays better when Manning is putting them on top. If any team hires Manning they have to remove everyone that is in the way and then again putting your entire team in the hands of Manning’s abilities, so he breaks you break.

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Now lets get a G-D snack!!!
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by Noble_Lance on Dec 7, 2011 12:05 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Great points.

I think it really could become a bidding war between the Jets and Dolphins. Obviously Rex thinks you guys can win the Super Bowl every year. Miami doesn’t seem that far away, despite the 0-7 start. It could be interesting if this actually happens.

However, I’m not sold that he actually will leave Indy. I think he likes having played for 1 team his whole career, and being The Guy for the Indy Colts, with Unitas being the Baltimore Colts guy.

Can’t wait to see how the soap opera unfolds.

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by Kevin Nogle on Dec 7, 2011 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Well I mean isn't that the goal of every NFL team, is to win the Superbowl?

If you don’t think when you start the season you can’t win or have the potential to? Then why bother playing or wasting other teams time trying?

but moving on I don’t think he will leave Indy, if he is it will be retired or for a team he thinks he can win with.

And Old Jets fan, I know that, but I mean I’m responding on the theory of it not the actuality.

And the home of the .... JETS!!!
Now lets get a G-D snack!!!
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by Noble_Lance on Dec 7, 2011 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I also don't see the Jets taking him under any circumstances

They are totally committed to Sanchez.

"I just build our guys up. If it's trash talking that I believe in our football team, then, yes, I agree with that statement. I'm the biggest trash talker there is." Rex Ryan

by OldJetsFanatic on Dec 7, 2011 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Being totally committed to an average QB can get you nowhere in this league fast!

I obviously don’t know as much about the Jets as you do, but it wouldn’t surprise me a bit to see the Jets make a play for Manning. Sanchez just doesn’t seem like he’s the answer. He’s more of a Dilfer type. I don’t see him leading any team to a Super Bowl. Yes, I know the Jets got close the last 2 years, but to me Sanchez just doesn’t seem to have enough to get them over the hump.

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by rintintinsoldier on Dec 7, 2011 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I sometimes agree with that about Sanchez

though I’d prefer if we had an OC who took advantage of his strengths rather than trying to make him perform to his weaknesses. You know what the Tebows in Denver are doing or the Carolina Cam Newtons

And the home of the .... JETS!!!
Now lets get a G-D snack!!!
"You might not like that. You might be very cynical about that. Well, f**k it, I don't care what you think."-Roy McDonald

by Noble_Lance on Dec 7, 2011 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I think everyone would agree Schotty has not helped his development

"I just build our guys up. If it's trash talking that I believe in our football team, then, yes, I agree with that statement. I'm the biggest trash talker there is." Rex Ryan

by OldJetsFanatic on Dec 7, 2011 5:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Statistically he is average right now.

But his intangibles are a huge plus. In 3 years, he has 30 wins and 11 of those are come from behind wins. He plays really well when it matters as his post-season record shows. I try and keep in mind he only started 16 games in college and may well turn the corner and be a top 10 or even top 5 QB some day. I would hate to trade him before that happens.

"I just build our guys up. If it's trash talking that I believe in our football team, then, yes, I agree with that statement. I'm the biggest trash talker there is." Rex Ryan

by OldJetsFanatic on Dec 7, 2011 5:28 PM EST up reply actions  

We blamed our OC too...

then they fired him. Henne had made some huge leaps this year, but he still sucks. The sooner you come to that realization also, the better off things will be for you guys too. You don’t want to waste seasons hoping for next year.

SUCK FOR LUCK!! 2012 will mark exactly 13 years since Marino retired
"it will take the Dolphins 13 years to replace Dan Marino at QB"-- Omar Kelly
"if you ain't first, you're last," --Ricky Bobby

by Jason Scott_90 on Dec 7, 2011 11:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah but until we see the other OC come in and show us he sucks.

I’ll keep believing.

And the home of the .... JETS!!!
Now lets get a G-D snack!!!
"You might not like that. You might be very cynical about that. Well, f**k it, I don't care what you think."-Roy McDonald

by Noble_Lance on Dec 7, 2011 11:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Fair enough....lol

SUCK FOR LUCK!! 2012 will mark exactly 13 years since Marino retired
"it will take the Dolphins 13 years to replace Dan Marino at QB"-- Omar Kelly
"if you ain't first, you're last," --Ricky Bobby

by Jason Scott_90 on Dec 7, 2011 11:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Well...here are my thoughts...

1. If we don’t have to use a 1st round pick on a QB and we can draft a RT we definitely have a O-line that can keep him upright.

2. He played on the Colts, so any other team he played on would be a step up from them.

3. I disagree with your premise. He has about 3-5 years. So if your question is “Would you like to go to the playoffs for the next 3-5 years?” my answer is “Yes, Please.”

4. I think if he was cut by the Colts he would probably take less than the contract he got a few years ago when he didn’t have neck problems. He might take a discount to go to a team with a good O-line even.

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by Jason Scott_90 on Dec 7, 2011 11:04 PM EST up reply actions  

One hit and every NFL player's career could be over

Besides, the question about his health isn’t about the fused bone (RBs, CBs, and many other positions have players currently in the NFL with fused necks). His health deals with trying to heal a nerve. His nerve won’t simply be injured by a hit.

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- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.

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by Finhead83 on Dec 7, 2011 1:22 PM EST up reply actions  

3 year stop gap that could take this team to the superbowl twice!

Cmon people, we are talking about Peyton Manning not bret farvererer. This dude is still pretty young and could have 5-6 more years (more likely 3-4). either way, the man is still good. He has never been the type of QB to beat you with his arm, he beat s you with his brain. There should be no question about how valuable he will be to whatever team he plays for next year.

a wise man once said..."My cats breath smells like cat food"
My love for THE MIAMI DOLPHINS is unconditional...period!
Win for pride, Win for us fans!

Go Dolphins and beat those Eagles!

by Phinphinatic on Dec 7, 2011 4:45 PM EST up reply actions  

He don't need no one....

Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. -H.L. Mencken.
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."

by Alpha6 on Dec 7, 2011 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

he needs you alpha

he told me, he misses those cold night in utah or idaho or wherever the hell they allow you to reside. He misses your touch, he misses the way you would cuddle up next to him every year after he would lose in the playoffs. You shoudl definetly call him.

a wise man once said..."My cats breath smells like cat food"
My love for THE MIAMI DOLPHINS is unconditional...period!
Win for pride, Win for us fans!

Go Dolphins and beat those Eagles!

by Phinphinatic on Dec 7, 2011 4:47 PM EST up reply actions  

But what do I say. His neck is messed up, so no head bobbin for a while....

Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. -H.L. Mencken.
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."

by Alpha6 on Dec 7, 2011 6:59 PM EST up reply actions  

that is a deal breaker in my neck of the woods

a wise man once said..."My cats breath smells like cat food"
My love for THE MIAMI DOLPHINS is unconditional...period!
Win for pride, Win for us fans!

Go Dolphins and beat those Eagles!

by Phinphinatic on Dec 8, 2011 10:44 AM EST up reply actions  

LOL... you said, "Neck" of the "woods"... LOL

Idk… it was funny to me.

Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. -H.L. Mencken.
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."

by Alpha6 on Dec 8, 2011 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

i figured that you would get that play on words....

this site could benefit from more random humor to lighten people up. I think people take me, this sit, and life a little too seriously at times.

a wise man once said..."My cats breath smells like cat food"
My love for THE MIAMI DOLPHINS is unconditional...period!
Win for pride, Win for us fans!

Go Dolphins and beat those Eagles!

by Phinphinatic on Dec 8, 2011 1:05 PM EST up reply actions  

what happened to your qoute about never missing an opportunity to make people happy

i kinda liked that.

a wise man once said..."My cats breath smells like cat food"
My love for THE MIAMI DOLPHINS is unconditional...period!
Win for pride, Win for us fans!

Go Dolphins and beat those Eagles!

by Phinphinatic on Dec 8, 2011 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I changed it "slit throats" one. Heh heh heh, but I'll bring the other one back at your request....

Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. -H.L. Mencken.
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."

by Alpha6 on Dec 8, 2011 3:54 PM EST up reply actions  

i like both...

makes you seem mysterious and complex

a wise man once said..."My cats breath smells like cat food"
My love for THE MIAMI DOLPHINS is unconditional...period!
Win for pride, Win for us fans!

Go Dolphins and beat those Eagles!

by Phinphinatic on Dec 8, 2011 4:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Haaaaaaaaa.......ha.....

Not gonna happen. I highly doubt Indy will trade Manning to anyone. Besides the asking price would be too high. Oakland gave up two number ones for Palmer. That means two whole years of draft picks for Peyton!

"Just win and sign Flynn!" Bandwagon

by dohboy24 on Dec 7, 2011 12:55 PM EST reply actions  

Not necessarily.

Not if Oliver Luck starts adding pressure too, which is expected. Especially if he comes out and says that Andrew doesn’t want to be drafted by a team with an established starter, when the team could really use those picks to help our that starter.

If the pressure mounts that Luck won’t play for the Colts because Manning is there – the Colts may be forced to move Manning to get the younger talent.

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by Kevin Nogle on Dec 7, 2011 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

And if that is the case...

Manning would probably be released instead of traded. Meaning no high demands.

- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.

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by Finhead83 on Dec 7, 2011 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Very, very true.

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Sept. 26, 2010 - 2013 Draft Kyle Padron Bandwagon

by Kevin Nogle on Dec 7, 2011 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

very very very true

i raised you a very…ha!

a wise man once said..."My cats breath smells like cat food"
My love for THE MIAMI DOLPHINS is unconditional...period!
Win for pride, Win for us fans!

Go Dolphins and beat those Eagles!

by Phinphinatic on Dec 7, 2011 4:47 PM EST up reply actions  

article on $$ issue at NFL.com

Manning’s future with Colts raises expensive issues

If the Colts retained Manning for 2012, then shipped him to another team, Indy would absorb a $28.8 million cap hit that year, the newspaper reported.
If Manning remains with the Colts for the 2012 and 2013 seasons, and then is traded, the team would absorb an immediate $19.2 million cap hit.
Any scenario that includes paying Manning his March option bonus and then trading him away would generate a $38.8 million cap hit.

by FinFinatic on Dec 7, 2011 1:24 PM EST reply actions  

They have to cut him.

More of Moore in 2012!

'Phins phor Liphe!

by joel311 on Dec 7, 2011 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Peyton Manning

Only way it makes sense for Miami to get manning is via free agency. I doubt you’ll see any team part with picks.

by tpl on Dec 7, 2011 2:06 PM EST reply actions  

Do it, but....

I like this move, but you have to draft a QB. Even if Manning fully recovers, hes only got a few years left.

by Marshalllllll19 on Dec 7, 2011 2:18 PM EST reply actions  

Four, five... not too bad....

Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. -H.L. Mencken.
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."

by Alpha6 on Dec 7, 2011 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

even 3 good ones would be nice

a wise man once said..."My cats breath smells like cat food"
My love for THE MIAMI DOLPHINS is unconditional...period!
Win for pride, Win for us fans!

Go Dolphins and beat those Eagles!

by Phinphinatic on Dec 7, 2011 4:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I would seek to acquire Peyton Manning by 1st round draft pick trade or FA acquisition

The last time the Fins acquired a 38-year old former Colts quarterback they went 17-0 and won the Super Bowl (Earl Morrall)
Manning is just a little bit better than that game manager.
Would you mortgage your future to go 19-0 and repeat the second perfect season in history?
The Defense is really shaping up…looks like the O-line is taking shape…we have a pretty good running game…and we have good receivers…

Peyton Manning = Bob Griese/Earl Morrall
Brandon Marshall = Paul Warfield
Reggie Bush = Mercury Morris
Daniel Thomas = Larry Csonka
Steve Slaton = Jim Kiick

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by DolphDallas on Dec 7, 2011 2:42 PM EST reply actions  

This is not as far fetched as you may think...

Steve Slaton 5-9 199
2008-2009 Rushing 268-1282 (4.8) 9 TD Receiving 50-377(7.5) 1 TD
2009-2010 Rushing 131-437 (3.3) 3 TD Receiving 44-417 (9.5) 4 TD
Ave: Rushing 199-859 (4.3) 5 TD Receiving 47 – 397 (8.4) 2 TD

Jim Kiick 5-11 214
1968 Rushing 165-621 (3.8) 4 TD Receiving 44-422 (9.6) 0TD
1969 Rushing 180-575 (3.2) 9 TD Receiving 29-443 (15.3) 1 TD
1970 Rushing 191-658 (3.4) 6 TD Receiving 42-497 (11.8) 0TD
Ave: Rushing 178-618 6 TD Receiving 38-454 0 TD

Both are third string dual rushing and receiving threats

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by DolphDallas on Dec 7, 2011 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Tony Sparano does not = Don Shula

and Mike Nolan does not = Bill Arnsparger

by phinhead on Dec 7, 2011 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Nobody is saying that Sparano = Shula

If anything, Jim Harbaugh = Don Shula

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by DolphDallas on Dec 7, 2011 3:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I know that

but I’m just saying that comparing the 72 team to current players you have to realize that the team excelled due to amazing coaching also.

by phinhead on Dec 7, 2011 4:21 PM EST up reply actions  

larry csonka was white

a wise man once said..."My cats breath smells like cat food"
My love for THE MIAMI DOLPHINS is unconditional...period!
Win for pride, Win for us fans!

Go Dolphins and beat those Eagles!

by Phinphinatic on Dec 7, 2011 4:49 PM EST up reply actions  

lol

Official member of "The Luck Fleet"
Nobody hurt a tackler like Zonk did.

by rintintinsoldier on Dec 7, 2011 5:15 PM EST up reply actions  

but the most important thing is...

they were/are both aqua and orange!

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by DolphDallas on Dec 8, 2011 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't want another product of a weak sperm.

Big & Fast is what the team needs….

Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. -H.L. Mencken.
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."

by Alpha6 on Dec 7, 2011 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

sorry about last time alpha...

you werent clear on where you wanted it….lol

a wise man once said..."My cats breath smells like cat food"
My love for THE MIAMI DOLPHINS is unconditional...period!
Win for pride, Win for us fans!

Go Dolphins and beat those Eagles!

by Phinphinatic on Dec 7, 2011 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Well okay

but Kiick wasn’t a 3rd stringer. He started most of his career and alternated with Mercury Morris later on. Slaton isn’t even used currently, but I get your point. I do like your post. Brought back pleasant memories.

Official member of "The Luck Fleet"
Nobody hurt a tackler like Zonk did.

by rintintinsoldier on Dec 7, 2011 5:14 PM EST up reply actions  

How many years does Manning have left?

I see a lot of people speculating that he maybe has 2 or 3 years left. He will turn 36 in March, 2012. He didn’t play this year, so that’s one less year of wear and tear. In the 2010 season, he set a personal high in passing yardage with 4,700, so it’s not like he was showing signs of diminished effectiveness prior to this season. Also remember the 2010 season how he had to adapt to a bunch of new receivers as his wideouts and TE were dropping like flies.

Manning has never been a QB who likes to take hits. He gets rid of the ball when faced with pressure. Assuming his neck surgery was successful (I know that’s an assumption), I could see Peyton playing another 5 years, and my guess is because of his style of play, he could play at a high level for those 5 years.

If the price is right and his neck is fine, the Dolphins would be fools not to make a play for him in free agency. He is so cerebral he would hit the ground running with this team because he has so much pride (his ego is just a little large which is what you want in your QB) that he will do everything necessary to get comfortable with the offensive system and his receivers and backs.

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Nobody hurt a tackler like Zonk did.

by rintintinsoldier on Dec 7, 2011 2:43 PM EST reply actions  

Am I the only dolphin fan that is tired of stop gap qb's?

Payton will be a HOF but at this point come on hes just another 2-3 stop gap. Plus payton doesn’t learn an offense he makes the team learn his offense it would take 2 years minimum just for our players to get it which means we would have maybe 1 year of contention with him no thanks see what moore can do and draft a real franchise not ANOTHER stop gap

by GC002 on Dec 7, 2011 3:01 PM EST reply actions  

IMO the addition of P.Manning means

a difference of 3 wins to the Dolphins if he plays all 16 games.I have gone on the record in this blog several times posting this.Luck is more of a long shot because he has not proven he can play at this level.

by broxtone on Dec 7, 2011 3:13 PM EST reply actions  

I hate the Manning's!

He’s a bag of fragrant water for feminine freshness…
So is his brother…
And their dad is a water bottle with a pitot tube and hose.

Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. -H.L. Mencken.
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."

by Alpha6 on Dec 7, 2011 3:23 PM EST reply actions  

you are far too familiar with these products

a wise man once said..."My cats breath smells like cat food"
My love for THE MIAMI DOLPHINS is unconditional...period!
Win for pride, Win for us fans!

Go Dolphins and beat those Eagles!

by Phinphinatic on Dec 7, 2011 4:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Not sure he will ever play top level FB again

The nerves that control the arm pass through the neck. It is know that he has permanent nerve damage, along with this he also has restricted neck motion which will diminish his ability to spot a blitzing player. I would rather have Moore than take a chance on Manning. I think the chances of him ever playing top level QB again are not great, and I’d much rather have RG3 or Jones, some young gun that can come up in our organization instead of a big gamble who might or might not ever be a star again. We have been the home to the never were and the has been for the last 13 or more years, I’m just amazed we didn’t pick up McNabb, it’s way past time we find a young star of our own.

by JImbo111 on Dec 7, 2011 3:30 PM EST reply actions  

Moore is still under contract...you don't lose Moore if you pursue Manning...

Moore is your insurance in case Manning doesn’t work out

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by DolphDallas on Dec 7, 2011 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Isn't this similar to what happened to Marino?

Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. -H.L. Mencken.
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."

by Alpha6 on Dec 7, 2011 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

when?

Are you speaking of the shoulder neck injury in 99?

by phinhead on Dec 7, 2011 4:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. -H.L. Mencken.
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."

by Alpha6 on Dec 7, 2011 6:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think it was the same

Dan didn’t have anything wrong with his neck so much as his muscle.

by phinhead on Dec 7, 2011 7:16 PM EST up reply actions  

It was a nerve injury and is considered a neck injury

It was only a pinched nerve though, but it did prevent Marino from throwing. Still, he didn’t require surgery to repair the nerve and only required rest. The injury is similar in location and the body part injured, but Manning’s surgery was more severe and the nerve was not the primary injury.

I dont think you can really compare the two injuries, but I wouldn’t say Manning will be greatly diminished by this. His flexion will be limited a small amount, but that will be the only effect if his nerve recovers.

- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.

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by Finhead83 on Dec 8, 2011 8:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Wel.. with that info.. I don't want him even more.

Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. -H.L. Mencken.
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."

by Alpha6 on Dec 8, 2011 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not too worried about it

Nobody will sign him or trade for him unless the nerve heals. He’s not “a hit away” from retirement as many think because about 40 players in the NFL, including our own Steve Slaton, have had the same surgery in their neck to fuse bone. As long as Manning’s nerve heals, he’ll be fine.

- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.

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by Finhead83 on Dec 8, 2011 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Mannning = Chad Pennington with an elite arm

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by DolphDallas on Dec 7, 2011 3:40 PM EST reply actions  

Robo Manning?

Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. -H.L. Mencken.
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."

by Alpha6 on Dec 7, 2011 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Had an elite arm...

His last outing saw him with markedly reduced arm strength due to nerve damage/impingement. “Manning left the field in the fall after complaining of weakness in his arm and pain in his lower back during practice, months after an earlier surgery for a herniated disc in late May.” It is not known whether he will ever regain his old form, and I’d bet against it even though current press reports have him as much improved I remain skeptical. Even if his arm strength is improved he still has a lot of adjustment to do because of his lack of cervical mobility.

by JImbo111 on Dec 7, 2011 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

silly

a wise man once said..."My cats breath smells like cat food"
My love for THE MIAMI DOLPHINS is unconditional...period!
Win for pride, Win for us fans!

Go Dolphins and beat those Eagles!

by Phinphinatic on Dec 7, 2011 4:51 PM EST up reply actions  

All of these posts state

that the assumption is “if he fully recovers”. Obviously if he doesn’t then nobody will want him.

Official member of "The Luck Fleet"
Nobody hurt a tackler like Zonk did.

by rintintinsoldier on Dec 7, 2011 5:17 PM EST up reply actions  

If he doesn't, he'll probably be forced to retire due to weakness in the arm.

Which makes everything a moot point.

- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.

Contributing Writer to the The Phinsider

by Finhead83 on Dec 8, 2011 8:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh happy day! No more sports pundits drooling over everything he does....

Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. -H.L. Mencken.
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."

by Alpha6 on Dec 8, 2011 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Could Miami get a QB in the draft (RGII for instance) AND P. Manning?

Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. -H.L. Mencken.
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."

by Alpha6 on Dec 7, 2011 4:05 PM EST reply actions  

this I would be fine with

but not just manning, I want a future!

Miami's Superstars: Reggie Bush, Brandon Marshall, Jake Long, Karlos Dansby, Cameron Wake, Vontae Davis and Sean Smith (just wait), Lebron James, Dwyane Wade, Chris Bosh, Mike Stanton, Gaby Sanchez, and Hanley Ramirez. :)

by finzrule on Dec 7, 2011 10:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Anyone Who doesn't Want Manning is Crazy!

Peyton + Miami = Instant Superbowl contender! (i e. look how bad the colts are without him)
Peyton makes B. Marshall , D. Bess ,R. Bush ,and C. Wake instant Pro bowl contenders!

Any two or three years contract for him is worth the financial hit if he is a F A and well still have a !st round for the Qb of the future.

by Bromdenn on Dec 7, 2011 4:23 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Put me down as "crazy."

I’d rather have RG3 or Jones or…

by JImbo111 on Dec 7, 2011 4:36 PM EST up reply actions  

i thought we brought culpepper in for a horse show

then he stayed and proceeded to make ray lucas look good.

a wise man once said..."My cats breath smells like cat food"
My love for THE MIAMI DOLPHINS is unconditional...period!
Win for pride, Win for us fans!

Go Dolphins and beat those Eagles!

by Phinphinatic on Dec 7, 2011 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

This isn't Madden

The Colts, if they’re smart, won’t let Peyton play for anyone but the Indianapolis Colts. I’m from Indiana and people L-O-V-E Manning around here. It’s crazy. I think the Colts either A.) trade down and stock pile draft picks because Lord knows they need more than just a QB or B.) Colts draft Luck and then Manning retires. I just don’t forsee Manning in any other uniform except the Colts.

However, I’d welcome this move….but still feel bad. I mean with Moore playing consitent ball and Henne coming into his own before the injury, I just think our starting QB for next year is already on the roster. I would LOVE if Miami hired Pennington as our QB coach and he worked 1-on-1 with either Henne or Moore and they somehow improved. I still have faith in Henne.

by Jared Maier on Dec 7, 2011 5:32 PM EST reply actions  

Moore is good and we will keep him but Manning is elite and will make us Superbowl contenders!

Henne is probably done in Miami although he did show slight improvement he didn’t do anything to help the Red Zone & simply didn’t lead the Team the way Moore does…the players rally around Moore…he has some of that “it” factor

by MassFinFan65 on Dec 7, 2011 6:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Righta-mundo

Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. -H.L. Mencken.
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."

by Alpha6 on Dec 7, 2011 8:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Manning has no trade value

He is an elite QB, but he is also paid like an elite QB, and thus there’s no bargain to get him.

Either the Colts keep him or the Colts release him.

No team is going to give up a first round pick plus additional picks for the right to take a QB earning $20 million a yaer.

Manning could decide to come to a team at a lower salary just to prove to the league that he’s still got some fight in him left, or the Colts could decide to keep him and trade away the Andrew Luck pick for enough picks to rebuild the team.

Put another way, if we trade for Manning, we’d lose several draft picks, PLUS have to cut players to stay under the Salary Cap, as the QB position goes from occupying less than $5 million of our payroll to occupying $20 million.

by MartinH04 on Dec 7, 2011 7:55 PM EST reply actions  

No!

The Eagles are a prime example. You can’t buy championships. It takes too much time to learn the system and build chemistry with big free agents. I would much rather win a Superbowl 5 years down the road with a QB that the Dolphins draft and develop or else somebody like Moore who has a few years under their belt but are still young.

Either Moore or Henne is the answer, or else draft a QB. No more BS free agent QB’s. I’m probably only one of the remaining Phin Phans on this planet that thinks this way, but I still think Henne is the answer. Henne and Moore as a duo work really well. Make them compete for the starting spot and draft a QB to develop. That’s my opinion and I’m sticking to it!

by Drumzan on Dec 7, 2011 9:00 PM EST reply actions  

please no, please no! PLEASE NO!!!!

Miami's Superstars: Reggie Bush, Brandon Marshall, Jake Long, Karlos Dansby, Cameron Wake, Vontae Davis and Sean Smith (just wait), Lebron James, Dwyane Wade, Chris Bosh, Mike Stanton, Gaby Sanchez, and Hanley Ramirez. :)

by finzrule on Dec 7, 2011 10:05 PM EST reply actions  

NO MORE CHANGE! PLZ

I like what the fins are doing and I like where they are headed.. We dont need Manning let the nappy Colts keep him and I wish that city a long sleep in hell anyways. I live in Indiana and God is it nasty here, nasty back stabbing two face state it is!!
Anyways I think Moore will surprise us and make a run for the next Marino look alike. We need to spend time and money on tweaking what we already have instead of always trying to change something or try something new. We had a dozen ‘new’ coaches’ A bakers dozen ‘new’ QB’s and we’re still no closer then day one after Marino left……
It takes time to build a masterpiece and I like what I am seeing from my boys in aqua[BIG FUCKING HEARTS].
I like Moore and I still believe in Henne. lets give them their just due and support. With the team we have now given another yr to gel I really think they will become the next team to beat to make it to the Super Bowl… The Super Bowl will have to go through Miami soon just hide and watch….
Dolfan since 68[The day I came out of the womb wearing aqua and orange] so yes I did my share of crying and laughing and parting and I am yet still behind them 100% at 15-1 or 1-15!!!! Can you all say the same????

by FIZHTHIZ on Dec 7, 2011 11:41 PM EST reply actions  

When it's been nearly 30 years since you've drafted a 1st round QB

you’re going to go through a baker’s dozen new QBs. This leads to losses, which leads to a dozen “new” coaches. Moore deserves to be on this team next season, but Henne will be a FA. We need to draft a 1st round QB. We haven’t been aggressive in making moves like this in years. We don’t have nearly as many holes to fill as some think, at least IMO. Just because we draft a 1st round QB doesn’t mean he will start next year or that we can’t use the rest of the draft and FA to help build this team for 2012 and beyond. That’s how I see it at least.

by phinsphan85 on Dec 8, 2011 12:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Though I really should just say 12 years

Obviously we didn’t need to draft a QB from the mid 80s through the late 90s

by phinsphan85 on Dec 8, 2011 12:57 AM EST up reply actions  

No more Henne

Moore > Henne.

by Fuhbawl on Dec 8, 2011 12:38 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

seriously?

Peyton Manning with Chad Pennington’s Arm > Moore

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the Wildscat Formation (SC) with FB = CC/DT/LH and SC = Bush/Slaton/Bess

by DolphDallas on Dec 8, 2011 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Is Sparano (assuming he stays)

a coach able to lead Manning? Or does Manning lead Sparano?

I never got a prize for doing what was expected of me.

by Tunaflipper on Dec 8, 2011 7:41 AM EST reply actions  

Btw, Finhead

Google has uncovered you as Armando.
They tagged “your picture” to your article.

I never got a prize for doing what was expected of me.

by Tunaflipper on Dec 8, 2011 8:34 AM EST reply actions  

LOL What?

I am definitely not Armando! I am not a fan of his condescending attitude…

- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.

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by Finhead83 on Dec 8, 2011 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Google, "MIami Dolphins"

Your front paged (with a pic).

I never got a prize for doing what was expected of me.

by Tunaflipper on Dec 8, 2011 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't see it...

I see the Phinsider logo, but that is it. Besides, I believe Google utilizes your previous internet and search history to help match the link you’d be most likely to enter. I think it’s different for everyone.

- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.

Contributing Writer to the The Phinsider

by Finhead83 on Dec 8, 2011 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I am not an Armando fan!

I feel abused.

I never got a prize for doing what was expected of me.

by Tunaflipper on Dec 8, 2011 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Violated?

Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. -H.L. Mencken.
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."

by Alpha6 on Dec 8, 2011 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Please, please, please....

NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
Some people can learn from the mistakes of others, while some people need to pee on the electric fence themselves.
Belichick is looking for a new name for his boat: VI Rings sounds pretty good.

by SlotMachinePlayer on Dec 8, 2011 12:46 PM EST reply actions  

Um... how come?

Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. -H.L. Mencken.
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."

by Alpha6 on Dec 8, 2011 12:50 PM EST up reply actions  

It'd be like bringing Marino back to Miami.

To me, that’s a BAD thing.

A VERY bad thing.

/tries to find a happy place

The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
Some people can learn from the mistakes of others, while some people need to pee on the electric fence themselves.
Belichick is looking for a new name for his boat: VI Rings sounds pretty good.

by SlotMachinePlayer on Dec 8, 2011 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Or are you only saying no because of your New England allegiance?

I think you may be playing trickster. Maybe you want us to think you’re trying to trick us and you really don’t want him to go to Miami. I say you should be waterboarded so we can find out the truth!

- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.

Contributing Writer to the The Phinsider

by Finhead83 on Dec 8, 2011 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I live in Minnesota, and at this time of year, the water is snow...

So I’d have to be snowboarded, and that sounds like an awful lot of fun.

The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
Some people can learn from the mistakes of others, while some people need to pee on the electric fence themselves.
Belichick is looking for a new name for his boat: VI Rings sounds pretty good.

by SlotMachinePlayer on Dec 8, 2011 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Not when you're hit across the face with one... LOL!

Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. -H.L. Mencken.
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."

by Alpha6 on Dec 8, 2011 3:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Actually, that sounds like EVERY TIME I've snow boarded.

I ski like a pro, snowboarding … not so much. The only thing worse was trying to surf one time.

One time.

The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
Some people can learn from the mistakes of others, while some people need to pee on the electric fence themselves.
Belichick is looking for a new name for his boat: VI Rings sounds pretty good.

by SlotMachinePlayer on Dec 8, 2011 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

One more comment: Consider Peyton Manning's influence on Brandon Marshall...

not unlike Tom Brady’s influence on Randy Moss….could unleash the Beast day-in-day-out and make Marshall 2x better…imagine Brandon Marshall achieving his vast potential consistently…that’s worth 20 million

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_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ __SC
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ QB_ _ _ _ _
the Wildscat Formation (SC) with FB = CC/DT/LH and SC = Bush/Slaton/Bess

by DolphDallas on Dec 8, 2011 2:53 PM EST reply actions  

Is he gonna use a knife in the influence process? Cause that could go either way....

Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. -H.L. Mencken.
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."

by Alpha6 on Dec 8, 2011 3:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Manning I don't believe would sign with the Skins

too far away from contending for a Super Bowl. Manning doesn’t need a paycheck – he wants another shot at a Super Bowl.

Official member of "The Luck Fleet"
Nobody hurt a tackler like Zonk did.

by rintintinsoldier on Dec 8, 2011 9:57 PM EST up reply actions  

No more stopgaps

2010 The Jim Mandich NewsFlash Award Winner.

Miss the misery.
Need a reason for a change.
Need a reason to explain.
So turn it on again.
Don't change your mind.
You're wasting light.

by Patssuck456 on Dec 11, 2011 1:08 AM EST reply actions  

Manning To Dolphins? Good Idea!

We take Sean Smith, move him to Free Safety. Who wouldn’t want a 6’3" with decent cover skills and hands. If he can be taught the position….Take Keenum in the 3rd-4th round, let him develop under Manning. We just need a shutdown corner and a O-Lineman. I think we have the tools elsewhere.

by BoogiesProductions on Dec 13, 2011 3:52 PM EST reply actions  

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