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Oakland Raiders at Miami Dolphins: Dolphins flash swagger en route to 34-14 spanking of Raiders

"I make this visor look good."

Is there anything better than the Dolphins clobbering the silver and black? How about when it's the AFC-west-leading Raiders arriving in Miami for a game that the "experts" thought would be a victory lap for Carson Palmer and company? Regardless of scenario, it's always sweet to see the Dolphins stomp out the "commitment to excellence," and considering that the Dolphins of September/October 2011 would've been reeling for weeks after a tough loss like the one they suffered in Dallas 10 days ago, it's hard not to be impressed by Miami's thorough pasting of a very game Raiders squad yesterday.

And so much for the Dolphins just beating up on weak teams, eh? This was actually Miami's most impressive victory of the season--a showcase for their burgeoning defense and take-what-you'll-give-us offense. Dare I say it, but it's almost as if this team has decided on an identity for the time being--fast, smart, resilient and equipped with a sense of relentlessness matched only by Nicolas Cage's character in Valley Girl. And you know what? I can live with this culture for another month.

Star-divide

It starts in the middle

Raise your hand if you thought two months ago that inside linebackers Kevin Burnett and Karlos "Kanye" Dansby would be taking over games and leading Miami's defense to a strong December finish. Yeah, I didn't think so, either, but it's early December, and those two players have been the cornerstones of Miami's young, tenacious defense. Burnett and Dansby played like terror twins against a good Raiders offense yesterday, combining for 11 tackles (two for losses), a sack and a ridiculous pick six that featured Burnett weaving quickly and seamlessly on a 34-yard scamper to the end zone.

The turnaround Burnett and Dansby have experienced in 2011 has been amazing thus far, and is probably due to them focusing more on busting up Dolphins opponents and less on tackling Omar Kelly (in full pads, of course) and cursing out the "Suck for Luck" campaign. They've also done a strong job of erasing opposing tight ends not named "Jason Witten." Going forward, Dolphins should feel pretty confident about the team's linebacker corps, which now has certified playmakers along the interior. Now if we could just upgrade Koa Misi's spot.

Matt Moore does that savvy veteran thing ... or something like that

Look, Matt Moore is not the guy who will lead back to the Super Bowl ... and maybe not even the playoffs if he starts for Miami next season. But there's no denying that he brings a safe, effective style of quarterback play to the table, and it's absolutely working right now. His numbers against the Raiders (13/25, 162 yards and one score) won't shred record books or elicit joy-fueled incontinence amongst Dolphins fans, but Moore knows how to manage the game and distribute the ball evenly to Miami's big pass catchers (Anthony Fasano, Brandon Marshall and Davone Bess all finished with four receptions yesterday afternoon). Moore doesn't turn the ball over often, either, and he commands enough respect from defenses to open up the Dolphins' running game. And speaking of Miami running backs ...

Birth of the two-headed rushing monster in Miami?

It looks like Reggie Bush's presence is starting to rub off on rookie Daniel Thomas, judging by how both players ran all over the Raiders yesterday. Bush hit 100 yards rushing for the second time this season (and third time in his career) and reeled off a couple of runs that all but turned Oakland defenders inside out, including a 29-yard gem. Serving as yin to Bush's yang, Thomas played the role of aqua-and-orange-clad bulldozer, collecting 73 yards on 13 carries and churning out a strong 5.6 yards per touch. Whether you love or hate the Dolphins' turnaround this season, you have to admit it's exciting to consider the one-two punch Miami now has in its backfield. Thomas gets waaaaay too much flak on this blog, too, as he's a tall, built back with decent giddy up and the ability to throw down a decent cut or two on the field. Believe me, Miami's next quarterback will love D-Train.

Let's do the two-minute drill

-Loved it when Vontae Davis dropped Carson Palmer yesterday. I've often wondered why we don't blitz No.21 more often (issues in the secondary, I am sure), since he shoots in on the quarterback like a guided missile.

-I wonder if Dan Carpenter's sabbatical got him back on track. He was 2/2 yesterday, including a 48-yard field goal.

-The Dolphins absolutely ate Oakland's run game whole, limiting Michael Bush to just 18 yards on 10 carries.

-It can be easy to forget that 2011 rookies didn't get the full NFL camp experience last summer, and maybe we were too quick to judge wide receiver Clyde Gates. His 77-yard kick return yesterday was pretty impressive. More of that, please.

-Dolphins punter Brandon Fields averaged 55.5 yards per boot yesterday, and had a long of 66. Personal bias aside, I believe the Dolphins have the best punter in the game right now.

-After a year-long win drought at home, the Dolphins have turned Sun Life Stadium into a virtual hell hole for visiting teams during the last month, outscoring their opponents 89-31. Suddenly, I feel pretty good about playing the Eagles next Sunday.

-Quick aside: I still believe significant changes need to be made to this team (hint: I am talking about Tony Sparano), but it's clear at this point that the Miami Dolphins have plenty of talent on the roster. What they now need is some long-term direction and a new quarterback to build around. No, duh ... right?

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You know ... at this point ...I am not sure we need to get rid of Sparano...

Granted we started off awful… but we were changing our ILB and our scoring woes early on can be attributed to our QB now obviously. We could definitely stand to bring in some better position coaches, but do we really need a change at offensive and defensive coordinator? I am so pleased with how we have been playing lately and how well our rookies have been performing lately that I am willing to give it another shot with Sparano. He seems to have changed his philosophy lately from trying to win games by a TD or less to putting teams away as early as possible. When I originally wanted him gone it was because he didn’t have that killer instinct. Now for whatever reason he seems to have finally acquired a taste for blood. If we upgrade our QB and pick up some more pieces this year, do we really need to get rid of Sparano?

SUCK FOR LUCK!! 2012 will mark exactly 13 years since Marino retired
"it will take the Dolphins 13 years to replace Dan Marino at QB"-- Omar Kelly
"if you ain't first, you're last," --Ricky Bobby

by Jason Scott_90 on Dec 5, 2011 7:29 AM EST reply actions  

Im almost with u, but...

Went you see the Dallas games, it make you wonder if an old dog can learn new tricks. I dont know if Sparano, for his own good, can REALLY, open up an O without, in the middle of the heat, come back to old trade. Lets wash and see.

I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(Quarter of a Century and counting)

by Aleta on Dec 5, 2011 7:55 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

"wash and see"? lol

0-7 got you feeling pretty dirty, eh?

Got a Kool-Aid hangover after 3 wins......better just keep drinking!! The Suck-ers around here still ain't buying.........

by Red Dog on Dec 5, 2011 8:38 AM EST up reply actions  

lol

"Never miss an opportunity to make others happy,
even if you have to leave them alone in order to do it"
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."

by Alpha6 on Dec 5, 2011 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I knew that would be up your alley Alpha

Got a Kool-Aid hangover after 3 wins......better just keep drinking!! The Suck-ers around here still ain't buying.........

by Red Dog on Dec 5, 2011 8:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Just for the sake of argument...

We went 7-9 last year and people were calling for Sparano’s job.

At best, we go 8-8 this year.

Would another 8-8/7-9/6-10 year be good enough to merit retaining Sparano? Yes, I realize the accomplishment required to get out of an 0-7 hole. But the NFL season is 16 games, not two 8-game seasons.

I realize that he could have lost this team after that loss to Denver. I have nothing but the utmost respect for Tony. But his body of work has to include the fact that 2008 is looking more and more like the exception than the rule.

by DrJay32 on Dec 5, 2011 10:48 AM EST up reply actions  

why is it that every time someone brings up sparanos record,

they leave out the 11-5 first season. hmmmmmm….. i wondr why

a wise man once said..."My cats breath smells like cat food"
My love for THE MIAMI DOLPHINS is unconditional...period!
Win for pride, Win for us fans!

Go Dolphins and beat those Raiders!

by Phinphinatic on Dec 5, 2011 11:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Because we were playing with an easy azz schedule and Penny at the helm +

this is a what have you done for me lately sport. As a coach you are supposed to improve your record yearly not regress.

As for Sparano. Lets see what he does the rest of the season (especially against the Patsies and Jests) to decide if he’s worthy of staying or not.

by Wade on Dec 5, 2011 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

i hear that, but it is important to not discount the fact that we won the division and finsihed 11-5..

Many of us were screaming that Sparano should have been coach of the year in 08. The bottom line to me is…Sparano has had to work with 3 straight seasons of losing his week 1 starting QB. That kind of instability at QB will put any coach at a disadvantage.

a wise man once said..."My cats breath smells like cat food"
My love for THE MIAMI DOLPHINS is unconditional...period!
Win for pride, Win for us fans!

Go Dolphins and beat those Eagles!

by Phinphinatic on Dec 5, 2011 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Consider that in 2008

Brady was not playing for NE…
And they STILL beat us at home…

by DrJay32 on Dec 5, 2011 4:55 PM EST up reply actions  

ok

it was a fluke.. 1-15 to 11-5 is a fluke… big huge fluke that fooled everyone… got it. greatest turn around in nfl history was a fluke… Best turnover ratio in the league was a fluke too… some fans blow me away with how they feel about our team.

a wise man once said..."My cats breath smells like cat food"
My love for THE MIAMI DOLPHINS is unconditional...period!
Win for pride, Win for us fans!

Go Dolphins and beat those Eagles!

by Phinphinatic on Dec 5, 2011 6:16 PM EST up reply actions  

You suggest that I hate this team?

Far from it.

I want consistency. I want to win. I wanted to KEEP Tony at the end of last year when others were calling for his head… why? Because changing coaches often sets your team back several years.

The question is:
Did Tony work a miracle with the 2008 team, only to flop once the team was “his,” or is 11-5 something we can expect consistently.

I’ll tell you one thing, I’m tired of hearing about how we’ve “turned the corner” only to end up in third place behind the g-d damned JESTS again.

If what we’re seeing now is the “New and Improved” Tony, and not the “oh crap, I’m going to lose my job soon” Tony, then I’m all for it.

Please don’t misconstrue my being realistic (looking at the past four years collectively) with me not liking this team or this coach.

Right now, it’s hard not to like what Tony’s done. It’s also hard to ignore that we are once again relegated to the bottom of our division, playing a “spoiler” role with no chance at a post-season berth.

by DrJay32 on Dec 5, 2011 6:33 PM EST up reply actions  

i made no reference to how you feel about this team.

if you read my comment carefully, you will see that. I just find it interesting how people can ignore certain facts about that and this team.

a wise man once said..."My cats breath smells like cat food"
My love for THE MIAMI DOLPHINS is unconditional...period!
Win for pride, Win for us fans!

Go Dolphins and beat those Eagles!

by Phinphinatic on Dec 5, 2011 6:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Because it was a FLUKE?

Seriously, though…

Look at the BODY OF WORK

Sparano is 29-31 over four years:
2008: First Place
2009: 3rd Place
2010: 3rd Place
Currently: Last Place

You are what your record says you are, and Tony’s record is sub-.500

by DrJay32 on Dec 5, 2011 4:53 PM EST up reply actions  

He has his pros and cons - as does switching at coach

- Consistent slow starting team…even during the 11-5 season we lost the first couple games. If Sparano could get the team ready for week one, we could really have something here. This particular season, lockout aside, our team looked to be in poor condition, wearing out in the heat as the Pats flew all over the field. – How many times have we heard people complain during the middle of games that he fails to make good adjustments? It seems like teams can surprise us with something, and then do it again and again all game long (Fake punt, certain passing formations, defenses, etc)?

- Offensive line coach roots, yet our O-line has been in a constant state of flux since after his first season. We have had solid players, but he tinkers too damn much. This should be a team strength. If they’re finally gelling and playing fantastic, lights-out right NOW on that O-line, it’ll be forgotten and still tinkered with in the off-season.

Tony’s a great guy….i’d hate for someone else to come in and either ride this team to success in spite of him or strip-mine the team and start anew to put their own personal stamp on it.

A possible coaching change definitely is one of those “Be careful what you wish for” situations.

I love how the Towel Throwers and Henne haters are quickly silenced by the smallest modicum of success. Here's a thought: You'll never appreciate the successes unless you believe and support them when they're supposed to be down. I don't care how entitled you feel that you are to your negativity, a person that boos their own team is simply a jerk.

by mikem1224 on Dec 5, 2011 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

last year we started pretty hot

a wise man once said..."My cats breath smells like cat food"
My love for THE MIAMI DOLPHINS is unconditional...period!
Win for pride, Win for us fans!

Go Dolphins and beat those Raiders!

by Phinphinatic on Dec 5, 2011 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Great game

Having fun in the stadium again. Always love the Raider fan and their Halloween costumes but was happy to see them gone by the third qtr :)

Great overall effort.

by FinsSince70 on Dec 5, 2011 7:32 AM EST reply actions  

Im gonna make a predicition here.

The dolphins are going to trade up in the draft this off season becuase were going to finish the season 7-9 or 8-8… We cant afford to have a pick after 10 and i REFUSE To stand by and watch them pick up Landry Jones who is god awful and over rated..

by Goon305Boy10 on Dec 5, 2011 7:51 AM EST reply actions  

Ad i hope Griffin III dont win the Heisman.

No good NFL QB have won the Heisman. Is like the Madden curse lol

I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(Quarter of a Century and counting)

by Aleta on Dec 5, 2011 8:00 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

No kidding, he had an insane game yesterday for a rookie.

If he stays healthy and continues to improve over his rookie year he may be one of the best QBs in the league in a year or two.

Football is back!

by Dakota Phan on Dec 5, 2011 11:11 AM EST up reply actions  

And you may recall I was Posting All offseason for us to Draft Cam Newton!!

Born in Miami, I bleed Aqua & Orange! I'm now stuck in CT, smack in between the "Jests" & "Patsies". I stand alone on PhinPhan Island, the lone sunny spot in an otherwise cold & dreary New England. (HELP, I'm surrounded by liberals!!) and it's cold..... too damn cold.....

Zman

by Pianomanzz on Dec 5, 2011 11:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Is that a subtle "I told you so"...?

"Never miss an opportunity to make others happy,
even if you have to leave them alone in order to do it"
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."

by Alpha6 on Dec 5, 2011 12:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Awesome game

I think just about all of us thought we had a TON of talent on the team before the season started, but it just now decided to start showing up a few weeks ago. That makes me wonder, how many actual holes do we have? I think that with an upgrade at RT and perhaps a second TE, all we would be missing is a top quarterback. Is all in for Andrew Luck a practical possibility?

"Every island has a beach and mine there will be called Beast Beach."
Leading the drive for our new offensive coordinator: Mr. Dan Marino

by Dolphinole on Dec 5, 2011 8:14 AM EST reply actions  

We need OLB help big time IMO

Got a Kool-Aid hangover after 3 wins......better just keep drinking!! The Suck-ers around here still ain't buying.........

by Red Dog on Dec 5, 2011 8:39 AM EST up reply actions  

def need a pass rusher opposite of wake...only guy bringing pressure on the outside

inside guys like starks/odrick, and tony mcd do a good job, but taylor and misi aren’t doing much at all

by tonyy on Dec 5, 2011 8:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Olb help would definitely be nice, as would a playmaking FS

But my point is: how often do you see fully complete teams win super bowls? Most teams can compensate for their weaknesses in other areas, and I think talent-wise we’re really close to that. I honestly believe, based on how we’re playing as of late, that we’re a top-10 QB away from consistent contenders.

"Every island has a beach and mine there will be called Beast Beach."
Leading the drive for our new offensive coordinator: Mr. Dan Marino

by Dolphinole on Dec 5, 2011 9:53 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I agree

Got a Kool-Aid hangover after 3 wins......better just keep drinking!! The Suck-ers around here still ain't buying.........

by Red Dog on Dec 5, 2011 8:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Misi did draw a holding penalty against the RT yesterday

Official member of "The Luck Fleet"
Nobody hurt a tackler like Zonk did.

by rintintinsoldier on Dec 5, 2011 10:00 AM EST up reply actions  

reggie BUSH - " THE SOUND OF WINTER "

Can it be possible, the DOLPHINS make the PLAYOFFS at 8-8 ??

As i said before, " MATT MOORE " is the best QB to come to MIAMI

since DAN MARINO."

by Dolfan77 on Dec 5, 2011 8:55 AM EST reply actions  

Be serious

Mat Moore has a history of getting hurt. He is playing well right now and should be given a chance to compete for the starting job next year along with a 1st round pick from the college draft.

by straighttalk on Dec 5, 2011 9:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Sorry, but he is not that good

Top 5 qbs since marino:
1.feidler
2.pennington
3A.moore
3B.henne
5.your choice here

Admiral of the RGIII "Robert Griffin"
Reggie Bush for 2012 pro bowl
New Orleans OC Carmichael for HC.
All hail the mighty brandstater, the true qb god

by AnishB15 on Dec 5, 2011 10:10 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

What happened to number 4..?

lol

"Never miss an opportunity to make others happy,
even if you have to leave them alone in order to do it"
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."

by Alpha6 on Dec 5, 2011 12:45 PM EST up reply actions  

3b takes the place of 4.

"Theyas no fawking qwatahback!"-Anonymous Patriots fan at seeing the Wildcat formation for the first time.
I also support Occupy Joe Robbie

by texascowpunk on Dec 5, 2011 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Yup

Admiral of the RGIII "Robert Griffin"
Reggie Bush for 2012 pro bowl
New Orleans OC Carmichael for HC.
All hail the mighty brandstater, the true qb god

by AnishB15 on Dec 5, 2011 12:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Then why not just say, 4th is Henne?

lol

"Never miss an opportunity to make others happy,
even if you have to leave them alone in order to do it"
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."

by Alpha6 on Dec 5, 2011 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

subtext

a wise man once said..."My cats breath smells like cat food"
My love for THE MIAMI DOLPHINS is unconditional...period!
Win for pride, Win for us fans!

Go Dolphins and beat those Eagles!

by Phinphinatic on Dec 5, 2011 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

He sees them as equal. Come on Alpha!

"Theyas no fawking qwatahback!"-Anonymous Patriots fan at seeing the Wildcat formation for the first time.
I also support Occupy Joe Robbie

by texascowpunk on Dec 5, 2011 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Right. So they're two 3's... what comes after three? Five?

"Never miss an opportunity to make others happy,
even if you have to leave them alone in order to do it"
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."

by Alpha6 on Dec 5, 2011 4:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Only when someone is ranking something. This is common knowledge.

I know your all isolated up there in Utah so go ahead and spread the word to the others. This is how ranking and numbers associated with them now work. When two things or three, ect.. are rated the same then the corresponding number that would otherwise be assigned to those things (in this case QB’s) are skipped.

"Theyas no fawking qwatahback!"-Anonymous Patriots fan at seeing the Wildcat formation for the first time.
I also support Occupy Joe Robbie

by texascowpunk on Dec 5, 2011 4:59 PM EST up reply actions  

So if you had three 3's, you'd go to six? That's stupid.

If they’re equal they wouldn’t assume the next lower number.

"Never miss an opportunity to make others happy,
even if you have to leave them alone in order to do it"
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."

by Alpha6 on Dec 5, 2011 5:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Its how ratings work. I can go slower if it helps or send the monkey over to explain it to you.

"Theyas no fawking qwatahback!"-Anonymous Patriots fan at seeing the Wildcat formation for the first time.
I also support Occupy Joe Robbie

by texascowpunk on Dec 5, 2011 8:10 PM EST up reply actions  

lol

a wise man once said..."My cats breath smells like cat food"
My love for THE MIAMI DOLPHINS is unconditional...period!
Win for pride, Win for us fans!

Go Dolphins and beat those Eagles!

by Phinphinatic on Dec 5, 2011 6:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Laughing boy....

Don’t encourage him. He already thinks he’s the smartest guy here….

lol

"Never miss an opportunity to make others happy,
even if you have to leave them alone in order to do it"
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."

by Alpha6 on Dec 5, 2011 6:57 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL No not here just more so then you is all.

"Theyas no fawking qwatahback!"-Anonymous Patriots fan at seeing the Wildcat formation for the first time.
I also support Occupy Joe Robbie

by texascowpunk on Dec 5, 2011 8:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Henne isn't close to Moore.

More of Moore in 2012!

'Phins phor Liphe!

by joel311 on Dec 5, 2011 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

then who's on first?

a wise man once said..."My cats breath smells like cat food"
My love for THE MIAMI DOLPHINS is unconditional...period!
Win for pride, Win for us fans!

Go Dolphins and beat those Raiders!

by Phinphinatic on Dec 5, 2011 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

That is correct.

And what’s on second….

"Never miss an opportunity to make others happy,
even if you have to leave them alone in order to do it"
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."

by Alpha6 on Dec 5, 2011 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

nice...lol

a wise man once said..."My cats breath smells like cat food"
My love for THE MIAMI DOLPHINS is unconditional...period!
Win for pride, Win for us fans!

Go Dolphins and beat those Eagles!

by Phinphinatic on Dec 5, 2011 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

You're wrong....

"Never miss an opportunity to make others happy,
even if you have to leave them alone in order to do it"
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."

by Alpha6 on Dec 5, 2011 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Coming from you I will assume that means I am in fact correct!

"Theyas no fawking qwatahback!"-Anonymous Patriots fan at seeing the Wildcat formation for the first time.
I also support Occupy Joe Robbie

by texascowpunk on Dec 5, 2011 4:53 PM EST up reply actions  

No... one, two, three, three, FOUR... not five.

"Never miss an opportunity to make others happy,
even if you have to leave them alone in order to do it"
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."

by Alpha6 on Dec 5, 2011 4:56 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL Yes Forest I can count but this is rankings and how numbers are thus associated not counting sheep.

"Theyas no fawking qwatahback!"-Anonymous Patriots fan at seeing the Wildcat formation for the first time.
I also support Occupy Joe Robbie

by texascowpunk on Dec 5, 2011 5:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Do you know what an elephant uses for a tampon?

.
.
.
sheep.

"Never miss an opportunity to make others happy,
even if you have to leave them alone in order to do it"
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."

by Alpha6 on Dec 5, 2011 5:02 PM EST up reply actions  

LMAO!

where is the pic?

a wise man once said..."My cats breath smells like cat food"
My love for THE MIAMI DOLPHINS is unconditional...period!
Win for pride, Win for us fans!

Go Dolphins and beat those Eagles!

by Phinphinatic on Dec 5, 2011 6:18 PM EST up reply actions  

So disturbing and disturbed.

"Theyas no fawking qwatahback!"-Anonymous Patriots fan at seeing the Wildcat formation for the first time.
I also support Occupy Joe Robbie

by texascowpunk on Dec 5, 2011 8:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah,

Moore isn’t that good. Just averaging over 100 QBR in the last 5 games with 8 TDs to 1 INT. Even including the first couple games where he was suddenly brought into the starting role, his QB rating is 87.6 on the year. Henne couldn’t dream of reaching the mid to high 80s consistently and Moore is sitting here topping 100 in the last 5 games, with outstanding TD:INT ratios.

The kid is hot and he is playing smart like Pennington, but with a better arm.

More of Moore in 2012!

'Phins phor Liphe!

by joel311 on Dec 5, 2011 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly... difficult to ignore!

"Never miss an opportunity to make others happy,
even if you have to leave them alone in order to do it"
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."

by Alpha6 on Dec 5, 2011 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Sparano needs to go

I admit that I admire how Sparano kept the team from packing it in at 0-7. But he’s too slow witted to coach against the best. We’ve all seen a number of plays where he should have thrown a challenge flag but didn’t, where they take a time out and still have some stupid penality on the same play, where they can’t seem to react to a hurryup offense etc. It took them half a year to figure out how to run a 2-minute drill. And don’t forget about when we were within a score of NE and out cornerback was hobbling with an obvious cramp. Sparano made no move to replace the cornerback and Brady naturally threw to the man he was covering for a long compleation inside our 10 yard line. That being said, I think we should use the rest of the year to evaluate the offensive coordinator and Nolan to see if we should retain them and just replace Sparano.

by straighttalk on Dec 5, 2011 9:27 AM EST reply actions  

If we win out,

and Sparano let’s his excellent coordinators do their thing, I’d be on the fence about replacing him. His problem, IMO, was he thought he knew more than the coordinators and interfered with game plans. Now, it seems like Daboll and Nolan are given free reign to do t heir thing, and they do it well.

That being said, going for 2 when we are up 13-0 against Denver was a HC call. Going conservative against Dallas when we were up by 2 in the 2nd half was also a HC decision. At least these blips are getting fewer and further between, but his timeout management is still atrocious. I’ll be on the fence though.

More of Moore in 2012!

'Phins phor Liphe!

by joel311 on Dec 5, 2011 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

His problem, IMO, was he thought he knew more than the coordinators and interfered with game plans. Now, it seems like Daboll and Nolan are given free reign to do t heir thing, and they do it well.

What evidence do you have that any of that is even remotely true?

by PNSter on Dec 5, 2011 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Link it or we don't know?

"Never miss an opportunity to make others happy,
even if you have to leave them alone in order to do it"
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."

by Alpha6 on Dec 5, 2011 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Being a head coach is not something you just know

Like QB it takes time for a HC to become a veteran. If he goes 7-9 or 8-8 I would say you have to give him another year. And this time lets not change everything again.

Just minor tweaks

by sdelinois on Dec 5, 2011 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Funny that in that absolute destruction, the play I got the most excited about was a garbage time punt.

I’m a kicking junkie (lame, I know, but I’m a huge LSU fan, so it’s really rearing its head this season), and that punt that Fields kicked to the half yard line was nothing short of insane. It traveled 70 yards to the one inch line in the middle of the field, and then made a 90-degree beeline for the sideline. The judges called it a touchback, but they can suck it. It was a thing of beauty like I’ve never seen from a punter.

by IMadeThisNameAfterWeDraftedReshadJones on Dec 5, 2011 9:34 AM EST reply actions  

I agree with you on that kick

Why couldn’t they just pretend it didn’t touch the goal line?

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by Dolphinole on Dec 5, 2011 9:54 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Coaches

This is the most fun I have had watching Dolphin football since 2003. 2008 was fun but it was obvious we were not good enough to beat the quality teams (as proven in the playoffs). If we beat the Jets week 17 to ruin their playoff hopes I would have no problem keeping all of our coaches for next season. A coaching change will be a huge distraction and we are playing the best football in years. Keep Matt Moore and use the 2nd round pick for a QB. Use the 1st rounder for the O lineman or linebacker. QB was not our problem this year.

by thekramer26 on Dec 5, 2011 9:55 AM EST reply actions  

Sparano will stay If....

The Dolphins run the table (8-8) or finish winning 3 of 4 (7-9) with a close loss to the Patsies and a thrashing of the Jests to end the season..

The reality is, WE are all Phans here but the choice isn’t ours to make. The lockout & shortened camp/ preseason really put the Phins staff at a disadvantage bringing in Daboll and a new offense. Ross has commited to Sparano & like it or not, if the Phins keep putting up performances like this for the rest of the year I don’t see how Ross is going to dump Tony & cause another large shakeup. You all know any new HC would want alot of his own guys brought in.. it’ll be too much chaos. Ross wants stability & will give these guys another year to gel & see what they can do.

Of course the 2012 draft will be the key to whether they make the jump to Elite, or stay mired in mediocrity… We MUST get a Franchise QB..

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by Pianomanzz on Dec 5, 2011 10:56 AM EST reply actions  

Matt Moore 2012!

Could Matt Moore actually be our answer at QB next season? I’m gonna go out a limb here with a lot of you folks: I say yes.

Moore is mobile, accurate, and efficient when he has enough time to throw (thanks, O-line). He absolutely DISMANTLES teams across the middle of the field, and we’re running a gameplan for that. Brian Daboll, coming from Cleveland, is used to running schemes for “mediocre” QBs, and I think it’s clear he, Moore, and the receivers are all on the same page here. Oh, and Moore doesn’t stare down receivers, instead rapidly and smartly scanning the field and spreading the ball out.

We’ve actually been running this scheme for 3 years now, which is part of the reason Henne has looked so bad; he and Moore are totally different passers. I’m convinced Henne could succeed somewhere, but not here. He doesn’t fit with the offensive system we clearly want to run.

My point, though, is if we want to keep running this system, why not Moore for one more season? One of the most underrated things with QB is the system they’re put into. Drew Brees and Aaron Rodgers aren’t the only kind of QBs who an exist in the league, they’re just one kind. Moore actually strikes me as more of a Tom Brady-type passer, and we know his success first-hand. We have a system and a QB that suddenly fit together, and we’d be IDIOTS to toss that out.

Draft a QB if we want, but give him a year or even two to settle in, learn the system, and develop.

by elzatcho on Dec 5, 2011 10:59 AM EST reply actions  

Remember though that when replacement QBs come in

there is usually a bit of a honeymoon period where other teams don’t know how to react to him because there isn’t really any tape on them. Moore is playing well and to be frank I think he deserves a shot to start somewhere (I’m fine with here) next year if he keeps playing like he has been. That said though, next year may not be all fun and games when teams have time to digest how he plays more. We’ll see.

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by Dakota Phan on Dec 5, 2011 11:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Totally fair point, and I’m definitely wary of the honeymoon period. It’s a real phenomenon and Moore will likely regress to his historical mean over time, as well.

But it’s been a few weeks now and things still seem to be going well! It’s not like we’re running a tremendously varied game plan week to week. Fasano and Clay up the middle, occasional slants to D-Bess, Moore runs on a draw/broken play (or the keeper this week, how kick a** was that?!), and the occasional deep sideline throw to keep the DBs honest. So I’m optimistic. He has better personnel around him here than in Carolina and a game plan that plays to his strengths; I’m actually not totally shocked to see him succeed.

I’d never say he should be crowned the starter already, but right now I could think of worse options.

by elzatcho on Dec 5, 2011 11:26 AM EST up reply actions  

And of course all this is set up by a pretty successful run game, which is a whole other story.

by elzatcho on Dec 5, 2011 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Moore is not "THE" guy. I like what he's doing and how's he's playing right now. I lik ethe leadership and respect he expects from his teamates.

IMO -He just doesn’t have the intanhgibles to take us to the promise land. He’s a great Stop gap and bacjk up who taking full advantage of the oppurtunities given to him. Prime example, last week versus the Cowgirls we went to the redzon , like 5 times and came away with one touch down. That’s not going to cut it. I know that the mis snap cost us a td but, i tdidn’t cost us the game. It’s been a great ride so far but let’s hold judgement till the end of the season.

by D0lphins4Life on Dec 5, 2011 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

I suppose we need to set our expectations

Is Moore Manning? No
Is Moore Brady? No
Is Moore Rogers? No

Is more playing like a top 10 QB? YES
Is Moore getting better every week? YES
Is Moore playing better than any of the rookie QB’s from this year? YES well at least his QB rating is higher.

by sdelinois on Dec 5, 2011 11:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes I agree with you, he's playing good ball and I hope he's caught on, he's had plent y of time.

How long has he been in the league? He played a overated Dallas team last week and had at leasy five chances at putting the ball in the endzone one being on the three yard line and came away ith 3 points. If he’s going to be “the” guy for us he needs to come away with moore than 3 points against those types of teams. I believe the real test will be against NE. If he can keep pace with them than I’m a believer. There defense has been playing a little beter as of late and we all know where there offense stands. I beleive we can handle the Jets with know problem but I guess we’ll have to wait and see. Maybe my thinking is that I just see him beeing so good that we don’t need to get a QB in the first round in the draft. I don’t hink you pass up on this kind of talent on a 8 games of a perrinal back up who’s playing great.All and btw let’s see what Dallas does in the coming weeks when they have to play the Giants twice. (sorry had to throw that little jab in there)

by D0lphins4Life on Dec 5, 2011 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

I totally agree

We HAVE to move up in the draft and find a way to pick up the best QB in the draft. I know luck might not be an option for us but we need to make that priority #1.

But having Moore gives me a warm and fuzy feeling that next year we don’t have to push the rookie QB out there before he’s ready. Like CP10 made us feel…

We knew he was not a super star but CP10 was a real solid QB that could take us to the super bowl.

by sdelinois on Dec 5, 2011 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

That Dallas fiasco was play calling.

For some reason, we kept trying to run Reggie up the middle against Dallas’ stout D-Line? Either Daboll got nervous having the spotlight on Thanksgiving, or Sparano put his nose where it didn’t belong. That conservatism was not indicative of the 3 weeks prior.

More of Moore in 2012!

'Phins phor Liphe!

by joel311 on Dec 5, 2011 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Only really on the very last offensive possession though Joel.

On the last series I would agree with you that Daboll probably with hindsight would like to have his first and second down calls back but what i believe his intentions were are simple. On first down we brought out our 13 personnel grouping (meaning one back and three tight ends), a run heavy formation which Daboll does such a great job disguising routes out of. Think of the times that Daboll had taken out that formation and had gotten teams to flip their coverage to a single high safety set. On multiple occasions in the KC game as well as aginst Washington once and a few times against the Bills we were able to successfully manipulate and/or attack a run heavy defense with TE personnel (notably Clay but also Fasano) out of that set. On that play instead of any aggression or trickery he opted to instead use that personnel grouping to in-line block, pull lineman to the point of attack and run the ball at a defense that may not play “Gap” because of the things Daboll can throw at them out of that set. However as you stated their front is awesome. I will have to watch the play again but I believe Kenyon Coleman got the initial penetration.
If he could have that call back I bet you anything he would.

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by civwarbuff on Dec 5, 2011 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

My point is that this wasnt the entire Fourth quarter or anything.

It was really only the last possession and I believe the intent wasnt at all to shut it down.

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by civwarbuff on Dec 5, 2011 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Hmmm, I didn't think of this....

"Never miss an opportunity to make others happy,
even if you have to leave them alone in order to do it"
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."

by Alpha6 on Dec 5, 2011 3:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Dallas was like the old Sparano

Where he would have a one point lead and play like it was a 10 point lead. When you’re up you need to have faith in your players and put the foot on the opponents neck and step on it.

by sdelinois on Dec 5, 2011 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

What intangibles do you mean?

Pocket awareness? Good decisions? Touch passes?

Check. Check. Check.

'Phins phor Liphe!

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by joel311 on Dec 5, 2011 11:39 AM EST up reply actions  

"Pocket Awareness"... is that like "Pocket Pool"..?

"Never miss an opportunity to make others happy,
even if you have to leave them alone in order to do it"
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."

by Alpha6 on Dec 5, 2011 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I hope so

More of Moore in 2012!

'Phins phor Liphe!

by joel311 on Dec 5, 2011 2:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Your the expert...........

"Theyas no fawking qwatahback!"-Anonymous Patriots fan at seeing the Wildcat formation for the first time.
I also support Occupy Joe Robbie

by texascowpunk on Dec 5, 2011 4:55 PM EST up reply actions  

If you had two balls hard and smooth as cue balls, you'd play with the too.

Wait…. that’s wrong.

"Never miss an opportunity to make others happy,
even if you have to leave them alone in order to do it"
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."

by Alpha6 on Dec 5, 2011 4:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I am going to need Beaver to explain that one to me.

"Theyas no fawking qwatahback!"-Anonymous Patriots fan at seeing the Wildcat formation for the first time.
I also support Occupy Joe Robbie

by texascowpunk on Dec 5, 2011 5:01 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL

"Never miss an opportunity to make others happy,
even if you have to leave them alone in order to do it"
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."

by Alpha6 on Dec 5, 2011 5:02 PM EST up reply actions  

you need a beaver to explain balls?

that seems backwards

a wise man once said..."My cats breath smells like cat food"
My love for THE MIAMI DOLPHINS is unconditional...period!
Win for pride, Win for us fans!

Go Dolphins and beat those Eagles!

by Phinphinatic on Dec 5, 2011 6:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes but our Beaver is a special Beaver.

"Theyas no fawking qwatahback!"-Anonymous Patriots fan at seeing the Wildcat formation for the first time.
I also support Occupy Joe Robbie

by texascowpunk on Dec 5, 2011 8:11 PM EST up reply actions  

like special "wears a helmet around the office"? special

a wise man once said..."My cats breath smells like cat food"
My love for THE MIAMI DOLPHINS is unconditional...period!
Win for pride, Win for us fans!

Go Dolphins and beat those Eagles!

by Phinphinatic on Dec 6, 2011 10:52 AM EST up reply actions  

lmao... I pictured that!

But here’s Beav when he’s not at the office…

"Never miss an opportunity to make others happy,
even if you have to leave them alone in order to do it"
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."

by Alpha6 on Dec 6, 2011 11:00 AM EST up reply actions  

i needed that this morning

thanks alpha!!! lmao

a wise man once said..."My cats breath smells like cat food"
My love for THE MIAMI DOLPHINS is unconditional...period!
Win for pride, Win for us fans!

Go Dolphins and beat those Eagles!

by Phinphinatic on Dec 6, 2011 11:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Loving me some Moore right now.

He is playing efficient, but he also has the ability to make plays when we need them. He is keeping the defenses honest, which is giving Reggie some running room. He seems to be good about calling the least amount of protection necessary… overall he looks like a Top 10 QB right now. We could go places with him.

More of Moore in 2012!

'Phins phor Liphe!

by joel311 on Dec 5, 2011 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly, difficult to ignore!

"Never miss an opportunity to make others happy,
even if you have to leave them alone in order to do it"
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."

by Alpha6 on Dec 5, 2011 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Great post, and great game yesterday Fin Fans!!!!!

We can hold our head up high for another week. Living in LA, I can dismiss all of the Raider fans who went out of there way last week to remind me of how great their team was and how horrible they believed my team to be.
I did have one major concern from yesterdays game though:

It can be easy to forget that 2011 rookies didn’t get the full NFL camp experience last summer, and maybe we were too quick to judge wide receiver Clyde Gates. His 77-yard kick return yesterday was pretty impressive. More of that, please.

Isnt Clyde supposed to be faster than every one else on the field? I think the kid had a good run back, but i expect returners to take kicks like that to the house. He should have outrunned everyone based on his alleged speed.

a wise man once said..."My cats breath smells like cat food"
My love for THE MIAMI DOLPHINS is unconditional...period!
Win for pride, Win for us fans!

Go Dolphins and beat those Raiders!

by Phinphinatic on Dec 5, 2011 11:10 AM EST reply actions  

Can someone help me figure out this stupid quote thing...

i really cant figure this out since it changed a couple of weeks ago.

a wise man once said..."My cats breath smells like cat food"
My love for THE MIAMI DOLPHINS is unconditional...period!
Win for pride, Win for us fans!

Go Dolphins and beat those Raiders!

by Phinphinatic on Dec 5, 2011 11:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Please remove your hand from under the computer desk that is holding your dick.

Place said hand by computer key board to assist your other hand in typing/backspacing as needed….

"Never miss an opportunity to make others happy,
even if you have to leave them alone in order to do it"
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."

by Alpha6 on Dec 5, 2011 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

noted...lol

a wise man once said..."My cats breath smells like cat food"
My love for THE MIAMI DOLPHINS is unconditional...period!
Win for pride, Win for us fans!

Go Dolphins and beat those Raiders!

by Phinphinatic on Dec 5, 2011 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

We are so close to being a playoff team

If we add an off season of preparation for Matt Moore.
A first round QB to fight for the starting job.
Replace Colombo at RT
Add depth on the line
Keep the defense together

We might be a contender. But if we replace Sparano and Ireland we’re on another 3-4 year plan.

Sparano has made many mistakes, his conservative play calling drives me crazy and he always gets off to a slow start.

But I think the way he has held his team together and gotten us playing at a playoff level is very impressive. If we can go into next year with minimal changes we might be able to pick up where we left off. I’m starting to believe he deserves another year but he at least needs to go 7-9

by sdelinois on Dec 5, 2011 11:27 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

agreed

it seems that Sparano has given Dabol more freedom withhis play calling too. If he lets his Coordinators scheme and he sticks to motivating and managing, we should be in good shape for years to come.

a wise man once said..."My cats breath smells like cat food"
My love for THE MIAMI DOLPHINS is unconditional...period!
Win for pride, Win for us fans!

Go Dolphins and beat those Raiders!

by Phinphinatic on Dec 5, 2011 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree.

I liked how we still took a shot at the end zone when we were up over 30 points. Keep the foot on the gas!!

'Phins phor Liphe!

Draft The Newtron Bomb!

Sign Ortonimus Prime!

by joel311 on Dec 5, 2011 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

we havent had a coach who is willing to keep the foot on the gas since shula.

a wise man once said..."My cats breath smells like cat food"
My love for THE MIAMI DOLPHINS is unconditional...period!
Win for pride, Win for us fans!

Go Dolphins and beat those Raiders!

by Phinphinatic on Dec 5, 2011 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

What would you call yesterday?

We were up 34-0 and we still went for the end zone. We didn’t start running the clock until garbage time.

More of Moore in 2012!

'Phins phor Liphe!

by joel311 on Dec 5, 2011 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I think he means

This is not typical Sparano.

I like it but it’s not his usual MO.

by sdelinois on Dec 5, 2011 3:54 PM EST up reply actions  

IF... there's a coaching change, I'd like to see the team hire from within....

"Never miss an opportunity to make others happy,
even if you have to leave them alone in order to do it"
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."

by Alpha6 on Dec 5, 2011 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I was talking about pre-sparano

I like sparano and think that if he can keeps us winning and motivated he should stay.

a wise man once said..."My cats breath smells like cat food"
My love for THE MIAMI DOLPHINS is unconditional...period!
Win for pride, Win for us fans!

Go Dolphins and beat those Eagles!

by Phinphinatic on Dec 5, 2011 4:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Next offseason should be about 3 things

Get a future QB, add RT to protect him and fill out the team with depth.

by sdelinois on Dec 5, 2011 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

As more continues to have solid week after solid week,

I’m getting tired of the “Moore will never lead us to The Super Bowl” talk. He’s thrown one interception in 5 weeks? We are 4-1 having scored 30+ points on several occasions? It is ludicrous to speak in such absolutes when the kid is playing some amazing football right now.

I’m officially on the More of Moore bandwagon.

'Phins phor Liphe!

Draft The Newtron Bomb!

Sign Ortonimus Prime!

by joel311 on Dec 5, 2011 11:31 AM EST reply actions  

he's under contract for one more year

I think we HAVE to draft a QB in the first round but let Moore lead this team next year while the rookie learns from the bench.

Breese was a bust for a long time too!!!! Brady was a 6th round pick. And I can name many more QB’s that came out of nowhere.

by sdelinois on Dec 5, 2011 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

I dont know if Brees was ever a bust,

but he definetly got better in New Orleans.

There have been far too many ‘OK’ Qbs to win championships for anyone to suggest that Moore cant do the same. Moore is significantly better than Sanchez, and he has gotten the Jets close.

a wise man once said..."My cats breath smells like cat food"
My love for THE MIAMI DOLPHINS is unconditional...period!
Win for pride, Win for us fans!

Go Dolphins and beat those Raiders!

by Phinphinatic on Dec 5, 2011 11:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Brees wasn't great his first 2 years,

then he lit it up in San Diego his 3rd year after they drafted Phillip Rivers. Maybe they should have spent that 1st round pick on another position…

'Phins phor Liphe!

Draft The Newtron Bomb!

Sign Ortonimus Prime!

by joel311 on Dec 5, 2011 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

he hurt his shoulder

and many (dolphins included) didnt believe that he could come back from that surgery

a wise man once said..."My cats breath smells like cat food"
My love for THE MIAMI DOLPHINS is unconditional...period!
Win for pride, Win for us fans!

Go Dolphins and beat those Raiders!

by Phinphinatic on Dec 5, 2011 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

I think Moore is the guy.

He is playing lights out and he showed that he can bounce back from a loss after Dallas.

'Phins phor Liphe!

Draft The Newtron Bomb!

Sign Ortonimus Prime!

by joel311 on Dec 5, 2011 11:40 AM EST up reply actions  

i agree,

and i believe that Moore was the reason we lost the game too. I was happy to see him come out a play a pretty good game yesterday…

a wise man once said..."My cats breath smells like cat food"
My love for THE MIAMI DOLPHINS is unconditional...period!
Win for pride, Win for us fans!

Go Dolphins and beat those Raiders!

by Phinphinatic on Dec 5, 2011 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Have to treat Moore like a rookie

Even though Moore has 5 years under his belt he was an undrafted free agent. Which means he got nothing handed to him. If he got a shot it’s only because he outplayed everyone else that had higher draft status.

Then he only started a few games last year and a handfull the year before that. With this year I think he’s still under 16 games.

by sdelinois on Dec 5, 2011 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

i like moore...

but we would be on a 5 game win streak if he had thrown better passes aganist cowboys. I disagreed with most about why we lost on thanksgiving, i felt that the play calling and everythign else was typical, but Moore was more inaccurate than usual. Too many bad passes on 3rd down killed drives.

a wise man once said..."My cats breath smells like cat food"
My love for THE MIAMI DOLPHINS is unconditional...period!
Win for pride, Win for us fans!

Go Dolphins and beat those Raiders!

by Phinphinatic on Dec 5, 2011 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Out of the last 5 games Dalas was his worst effort

But I can’t blame him for losing the game because his performance was B- and not A+. With Henne if we got B- we were happy.

by sdelinois on Dec 5, 2011 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

B-?

Dude, that was D+, D- if you take away the amazing marshall TD. He was throwing errant passes, standing in the pocket all day and letting himself get sacked when he should have thrown it away.

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by AnishB15 on Dec 5, 2011 4:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I disagree Phinphinatic

how can you blame the Dallas loss on Moore? Obviously the fumbles were killer but trust me they we not entirely his fault an they were other factors that played into them. Obviously he missed a few throws, the one that plays over and over in my head was the flat route to Clay that he missed but in the end he gave us plenty of oppurtunities to win that game. The throw he made down at the goalline to Hartline, under pressure whilst scrolling out and into a transitioning coverage was a stupendous throw. The throw to Bess earlier on that critical drive on the intermediate slant pattern, with Orlando Scandrick in great position mind you was another absolutely clutch throw.
Also remember he took some serious heat in that game, the Cowboys pass rush is monstrous.
Yesterday against another great pass rushing team we kept Moore alot cleaner. In both games though Moore made some great plays.

2008 AFC EAST Champions.

by civwarbuff on Dec 5, 2011 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

You can say any player can play better

Sure he made a couple of mistakes but he played well enough to win if the rest of the team did the same. If the defense stops Romo from driving down the field and kicking a last second field goal for the win do you still blame Moore?

by sdelinois on Dec 5, 2011 4:00 PM EST up reply actions  

It's a conspiracy!

"Never miss an opportunity to make others happy,
even if you have to leave them alone in order to do it"
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
"Women desire six things: They want their husbands to be brave, wise, rich, generous, obedient to wife, and lively in bed."

by Alpha6 on Dec 5, 2011 4:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Thats essentially my point.

No one factor cost this team the game (as no one factor ever does at this level) and as a whole Matt Moore continues to play very good football.

2008 AFC EAST Champions.

by civwarbuff on Dec 6, 2011 8:00 AM EST up reply actions  

i hear you,

but i was more implying that execution cost us the game and not game plan.

a wise man once said..."My cats breath smells like cat food"
My love for THE MIAMI DOLPHINS is unconditional...period!
Win for pride, Win for us fans!

Go Dolphins and beat those Eagles!

by Phinphinatic on Dec 5, 2011 4:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Ahh I see

now I do agree with that.

2008 AFC EAST Champions.

by civwarbuff on Dec 6, 2011 7:58 AM EST up reply actions  

No offense Joel but we haven't really played any true contender of teams. Dallas isn't as good as people (the media) are making them out to be. Raiders?????

If he can be Dilfer to us great, but I just don’t see it happening. if he does awesome!!! I guess time will only tell. And no I’m not a expert by any means and I hope I’m proven wrong. Just giving my opionion. The last 3 games will be a huge inclination as to where the Dolphins and Moore stand.

by D0lphins4Life on Dec 5, 2011 11:41 AM EST reply actions  

Dallas is quite good,

wtf are you talking about? And the raiders have also been very good this year. Eat your crow when it’s time to play New England in Week 17 and Moore takes us to victory.

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by joel311 on Dec 5, 2011 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm loving this ride that were on and I don't want to become that guy who breaks down our team after a win and still be pissed and wanting more. That's not what I was trying to do.

I gave my opionion and that’s all that it was. I hope he proves me wrong. I hope he continues to win the rest of the year. I also hope that Sprano keeps his job if they do. Like I’ve said before we need some kind of “stabilization in the orginzation”. Let’s see what Sprano can do with another year with Daboll and not the TUNA pick in place. Once again IMO!!

by D0lphins4Life on Dec 5, 2011 12:04 PM EST up reply actions  

You are what your record says

Dallas, New York Giants and Oakland are playoff teams trying to win their division. They are not at the same level as Green Bay but they are the teams you need to beat to get to the playoffs.

Miami was leading all three in the fourth quarter. This team is very close.

by sdelinois on Dec 5, 2011 11:52 AM EST up reply actions  

If you are what your record says,

then team is not close.

Come on folks, have some consistency. If all those teams are “good” because of their record, then you can’t claim that the Dolphins are better than their record.

If you want to look at “quality of win” in assessing the Dolphins, then none of those teams are good, except maybe the Giants. Maybe.

by PNSter on Dec 5, 2011 3:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Why we're close

I can only think of one game that we got our asses kicked!!! I can also think of 3 or 4 that we gave away.

We’re close because if we improve the offense from where it’s playing right now we are contenders. Really I think they are one right tackle away. If Moore continues to play as well as he has the last 5 games.

On defense we need to keep them together and someone opposite Wake.

Thats it. Really 2 positions and draft a first round QB for the future.

by sdelinois on Dec 5, 2011 4:05 PM EST up reply actions  

we won 4 out of 5 games...

i am sorry that is not good enough for you. I am sorry that you have written this team off. But i am not sorry that i am excited to watch this team play every week and that i think they are one of the better teams in the NFL. Obviously you disagree, and thats fine by me.

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by Phinphinatic on Dec 5, 2011 4:28 PM EST up reply actions  

What’s more impressive is that I don’t think our offensive is firing on all cylinders yet.

TS may keep his job when this is all done. The job he’s done keeping the team together through 0-7 is admirable. I would consider keeping him at this point and I was one of the first to say he must go. Also, We have pretty much gotten ourselves out of position for a top QB without trading. So lets see if we can close the season out at 8 and 8 and just enjoy the rest of the year.

Kacy Rodgers! (Our D-Line Coach) Got to give him some credit.
Rusty Smith! (Titans future qb)
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by 54 on Dec 5, 2011 11:57 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Also Moore’s play may just earn him the starting spot long term. I want to see him on a game winning drive before I’m sold. He won’t put up the big numbers but he’ll put up the effective ones.

Kacy Rodgers! (Our D-Line Coach) Got to give him some credit.
Rusty Smith! (Titans future qb)
Play to win

by 54 on Dec 5, 2011 12:03 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Moore has done a very good job thus far.

No he doesn’t have dominating numbers every game but he manages well and he has great touch, accuracy and his decision making and poise improve every week. He has looked very good for a fill in QB. He is actually looking better than Brady did in his 1st playing season when he came in for an injured Bledsoe.

It must be smoke and mirrors though because the only QB’s capable of getting us to SB contention are 1st rd draft picks.

by mjams on Dec 5, 2011 12:24 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Yes, it is smoke and mirrors.

You are finally seeing reason.

Anybody hitching their wagon to Sparano/Moore is in for disappointment.

by PNSter on Dec 5, 2011 3:09 PM EST up reply actions  

If Moorre continues to play this way

He will certainly be the starting QB next season. I’m not saying they won’t add a 1st round QB. But the rookie will have to prove he can play as well as Moore to get the starting job.

by sdelinois on Dec 5, 2011 3:57 PM EST up reply actions  

As well? I think he'd have to play lights out....

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by Alpha6 on Dec 5, 2011 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

More pay.. more famous.. more want to watch him than Moore?

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even if you have to leave them alone in order to do it"
"The world is divided into two kinds of people: those who have tattoos, and those who are afraid of people with tattoos."
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by Alpha6 on Dec 5, 2011 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

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