Please stop this Luck craziness

• Moore IS better then Henne.
  …Wait for it…
  BUT, who else is he better than?
  Henne is such an easy target.
  Moore has progressed since his forgettable days in Carolina. (Tips hat to Moore).
  Is he our franchise guy?
  Don’t fall under the same spell. The answer is Luck or Peyton. We better get them fast or settle for avg Qb’s.
  I like Moore, he has, done well as the starter.
  He is descent, he has won games OK are you satisfied with that?

Bunch of wet blankets around here lately. ATTENTION: if you say something stupid, be prepared to defend yourself when somebody says it’s stupid.

hey none of us are experts on here, and if you are you are wasting your time blogging, when you should be looking over a playbook. we all love this team, and want it to succeed, but some of us just don’t agree as to how to do it. No matter what we say,or how much we rant, the team, and the F.O. is gonna do what they want , and we don’t have any say in it at all. So disagree all you want but lighten up on the name calling, we are all brother dolphin fans, I don’t do it , and I expect others don’t appreciate it either.

is that those people actually think that EVERY draft pick pans out. They do not understand that getting just 2 players that become decent contributors from ANY draft is considered a successful draft. You will see tons of mock drafts on here that say “we need to draft ALL of these players because they will all be good and we’ll finally be relevant again.” And the truth is that we will most likely have 1-2 players that actually stick and become long term contributors.

Just look at our drafts since 2007. Out of the 07 draft, we have 2 players that stuck. Out of the 08 draft, we had 3 players that stuck and one that may be gone after this year (that would be Hilliard. Henne doesn’t count because he’s a bust and will not be back unless it’s to be a backup). From the 09 draft, we have 4 players, of which 3 start, but 2 could be upgraded (Hartline and Smith). It’s too early to tell about the 10 and 11 drafts, but it looks like only a few are real keepers.

At any rate, the majority of the draft picks from the 2012 Dolphins draft will not be on the team 3 years later. Most fans understand this, but some don’t and they get upset at the idea of trading away picks, which most likely will be wasted anyway.

Let’s say we traded away every pick in this draft for the #1 overall pick. Many would argue that we are missing out on 6 picks (or however many we have). But are we really missing out that badly? Unless Ireland has a home run draft, chances are we will only end up with one or two players from this draft that stick with the team and become long term contributors. The other picks will wash out and it will be as if we never had those picks at all. Look at 2008 for example. Let’s say we offered all of our remaining picks to the Rams for the #2 overall pick. They took the deal and we drafted Matt Ryan as well. We would have ended up with Long and Ryan and nothing else. What would we have missed? Merling, Langford, and Hilliard are the only remaining members of that draft that we would have missed out on (not counting Henne obviously). Have the contributions of those three players equated to what we would have gained by trading up and drafting Ryan?

Another example would be to look at the 2010 draft. We traded down and drafted Odrick and Misi, whereas we could have drafted Jason Pierre-Paul. We took the route of acquiring more picks, but in the end, it looks as though we missed out on a big time player. Sure, we wouldn’t have had a 2nd round pick that year, but Misi’s lack of development, coupled with JPP’s emergence as a pass rusher looks like we wasted a pick. We still need a pass rusher when we could have had one.

I guess my point is that I value draft picks less than others. I believe that the majority of draft picks used are wasted on players that never become answers at their respective positions. There are some teams that draft well and can occasionally get more than one or two quality picks from the draft every year. But the majority are used on players that will be replaced in a few years. So to me, trading away a draft isn’t as big of a deal. Luck is the safest QB prospect to come around since Peyton Manning. That doesn’t mean that he will absolutely be a success. But if he’s the best to come along, why not take the chance on him? I’d rather trade away all the 2012 picks to get him, than miss out and end up only getting 2 quality picks from this draft anyway, especially as less key positions. If we miss, that’s bad, but we aren’t any worse than we are now. If we hit, then we have a franchise QB and a young team built around him. Wouldn’t it be just as bad to not trade up and miss on multiple picks? Let’s say we went RT, OLB, CB in the first three rounds and the only players that was around in 2015 was the RT? Weren’t the other two picks wasted?

Now if you are talking about trading picks from future drafts, then I would be more apprehensive. If we traded away next season’s first and that was the only pick from 2013, then I could handle that. But the 4 first round picks is too much and I think most GMs would agree. Dan Snyder might attempt that, but most GMs would say that’s too high. IMO, if the owner of the #1 overall pick really wants to trade, they will come down off the price. If that price was every pick from this year and the #1 from next year, I wouldn’t think that’s too high of a price.

There will be no QB worth drafting where we pick in the draft. RG3 will be gone and Luck will be gone. The other guys might turn out to be ok, and then we will be an OK team for the next few years. AGAIN! Haven’t we done that before? The Jets knew all they needed was a QB and they were bold and traded picks to MOVE up in the draft to take.. who? Mark Sanchez. Where did that land them? 2 years in the playoffs. Now that pick eventually turned out to be a complete bust, but at least they were bold and they got to the AFC championship 2 times before reality caught up with them and they realized what everyone else in the NFL knew and that is Mark Sanchez sucks.
This isn’t even that risky. There is a chance that they could have stayed where they were in the draft and still drafted Sanchez. But the Luck situation is a little different. Everyone has known for 2 years that this guy is the number one pick in the draft. If he had come out last year, it was a consensus that he would be the #1 pick in that draft. It was not hard to see that Peyton Manning would be a special QB. I can remember when they drafted him. I knew we had a QB, but I wanted him as a backup. I am not sure I would have traded the farm back then for him, but I didn’t forsee the next 10+ years of what Dolphins football would be either. I didn’t see the countless parade of draft picks we would send to other teams for crappy QBs. We have the opportunity to OVERPAY for a QB and make that little problem go away for 10+ years. The bleeding of 2nd round picks for crappy QBs will stop. There will be one very important position that we won’t even have to think about for 10+ years. How many drafts would you trade to have that position SOLVED? How many more years of irrelevance would you like to see? 13 years. 13 years since #13 retired. It is high time we went out and replaced him don’t you think? Henne sucks. He will always suck. The team he plays on will always be just good enough to not be bad. I can’t watch that anymore.