A Phinsider Discussion on Brian Daboll.
As another disappointing Dolphins Season winds down, we find ourselves asking many questions, such as:
Who will our next HC be?
Will Ireland get axed afterall?
What wil this team do in Free Agency?
Who will this team draft in April?
Will we trade up for RGIII/Luck? Will we trade down? Will we stay put? Will a QB's stock rise? Will a QB fall to us?
Is Matt Moore the Answer(probably not)
Will The Heat beat Dallas on Sunday?(Yes)
Will the Marlins make the playoffs(Yes)
Will the Panthers continue to kick some ass(well its a SFL team so they are bound to dissapoint at some juncture....)
Will Nick Saban die of Dysentery during the National Championchip game? Okay thats a trick question: Nick Saban's GI tract was removed to make more room for his dickishness.
But we still have two more games to play, 2 more games against our most hated rivals. Both will be close and hard fought, However I only think we come away winning one of them: The last game against the Jets.
How great would it be see the Jets lose on Christmas, and then it would be up to us to knock them out of the playoffs entirely? It would be the highlight of the year. Because eff the Jets.
But enough about "what could be". I think we have a large enough sample size to evalaute Brian Daboll's performance as our OC. Odds are that a new HC will bring in his own Offensive Coordinator. However I feel that Daboll has done a decent job. After initially struggling to find ways to use Reggie Bush, we have seen what Bush is truly capable of. Reggie is having his best career year and may end getting 1,200 yards rushing this year.
More importantly, it seems that Brian Daboll played a big part in Chad Henne's improvement earlier this year.
Put down the torches and pitchforks, yes Henne did show improvement in his game but it was not enough to turn him into "the guy".
He also seems to have developed Matt Moore quite nicely, Moore has been quietly been putting together an efficient season. He has not been lighting it p yardage wise, but he is managing the game well, I guess you can say his play has been Chad Pennington like. I do like that he is more willing to go down the field,at the same time he fails to see the whole field. He has missed players that were completely left alone.
Daboll himself has noticed improvements in Moore's game, and Moore has nothing but praise for Daboll.
Intrestingly enough, Moore mentions how Daboll's previous work as a DBs coach has helped Moore understand coverages better. And I believe Chad Pennington said something similiar once Daboll was hired.
Now Daboll is conservative by nature but he isnt afraid to mix things up, unlike Henning.
We have seen a larger variety of formations than we did last year, alot more guys going in motion, using Reggie Bush on toss sweeps. more multiple WR sets etc.
Daboll has found many uses for our new H-back Charles Clay as well. The fact that we are even using an H-back is exciting in of itself.
Despite our offense resembling more of a modern offense and not that 50s crap Henning ran. We have constantly failed to score TDs. We still get conservative for no reason at times. Sometimes Daboll gets too cute with some trick plays.(not as much as Henning but we have seen them).
I think Daboll has done a decent job overall and he may deserve another shot, but its not my call.
So what say you guys? What should we do about Brian Daboll. Discuss in the comments section.
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FYI,....
Panthers got smoked by the Bruins last night,……8-0 ( I think ).
As for Daboll,…I’m leaving that up to the new HC.
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by Ohiofinfan4life on Dec 24, 2011 12:16 PM EST reply actions
Might want to clarify your poll question a little
I’d like for him to hang around…..
......and the rats devour each other as the ship goes down......
the poll question confuses me
yes to stay or yes to go?
no to stay or no to go?
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yes and no ??? okay maybe.....
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by daytonadolfan on Dec 24, 2011 7:17 PM EST up reply actions
The Clash comes to mind,...
“Should I stay or should I go”…
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by Ohiofinfan4life on Dec 24, 2011 2:37 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Ok I messed up the Poll and I cannot close it.
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Well, if it counts, I think he should stay. I think given it’s his first year here, and implementing a new offense, he’s done a hell of a job making it more exciting and opening it up.
I can’t remember a season where the Dolphins consistently put up late 20’s early 30’s in points. The couple weeks early in the season where the Dolphins struggled were a product of Sparano taking over the offensive play calling after the loss to NE.
I vote for Daboll to stay.
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you can edit it I think....
We had [Brady] down… but we didn’t kick him. We helped him up and gave him a PowerPuff Girls band-aid for his knee. What exactly did you expect would happen when we did that?
by Jason Scott_90 on Dec 25, 2011 11:15 AM EST up reply actions
Another big problem
seems to be the lack of any adjustments on both sides of the ball after halftime.
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by daytonadolfan on Dec 24, 2011 7:18 PM EST up reply actions
He's young though... he will learn...
We had [Brady] down… but we didn’t kick him. We helped him up and gave him a PowerPuff Girls band-aid for his knee. What exactly did you expect would happen when we did that?
by Jason Scott_90 on Dec 25, 2011 11:15 AM EST up reply actions
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Go.
Reverts to conservative nature when the game gets tight. Took way too long to call a screen pass to R Bush or get him on the edge. The Dolphins still run pass plays short of the 1st down marker. Seemingly zero halftime adjustments. The Dolphins need an innovative and aggressive OC.
Plus Moore and Henne looked like better QB’s because the Dolphins stepped away from the completely absurd Sparano/Henning offensive approach. I say Dabol had very little to do with the ‘improvement’ of both Henne and Moore. They both look better because the system was slightly better, meaning they were allowed to throw the ball down field occasionally.
Either Henne or Moore could look like very good QB’s if the Dolphins adopt a up-tempo aggressive style passing game and if the team can add talent to the RT position. IMO.
by 1977 Blazer fan on Dec 24, 2011 10:07 PM EST reply actions
OK...
Reverts to conservative nature when the game gets tight. Took way too long to call a screen pass to R Bush or get him on the edge. The Dolphins still run pass plays short of the 1st down marker. Seemingly zero halftime adjustments.
Considering that these are some of the same issues we have seen since 2008, you have to wonder how much of it is attributed to Sparano. Given that there were reports of Sparano and Daboll getting into arguments over the direction of the offense, I would bet that Sparano had more to do with these issues than Daboll.
The Dolphins need an innovative and aggressive OC.
We are one of the top teams in the league in plays over 20+ yards. That’s pretty aggressive.
Plus Moore and Henne looked like better QB’s because the Dolphins stepped away from the completely absurd Sparano/Henning offensive approach. I say Dabol had very little to do with the ‘improvement’ of both Henne and Moore. They both look better because the system was slightly better, meaning they were allowed to throw the ball down field occasionally.
You contradict yourself with this statement. You say we got away from the former approach of the OC and HC, yet Daboll had “very little” to do with it? The system was better yet Daboll has no say in that? So the obstinate Tony Sparano suddenly and without reason decided to change his offensive approach and Daboll had nothing to do with that???
Either Henne or Moore could look like very good QB’s if the Dolphins adopt a up-tempo aggressive style passing game and if the team can add talent to the RT position. IMO.
Moore might, Henne won’t. I think it’s past time that fans around here give up on this idea that Henne is going to pan out to be some fabulous QB in the “right system”. He has been here 4 seasons, and has not improved to the point he should ever be considered the answer at QB for us or anyone else. He still struggles with decision making, has issues with accuracy and ball placement, still throws untimely interceptions, and has absolutely no true leadership ability (that trumped up stuff about this past off-season means nothing. The team became Matt Moore’s team within one or two starts). Chad Henne is a FA after this season and there is virtually no chance he will be back with the Dolphins. The new HC will have no ties to him and if that coach wants to move forward with a current QB, it will be Matt Moore, not Henne.
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He has been here 4 years under who??
the same person that killed the miami dolphins franchise currently, the same one that has never been a head coach before, the same one both JT and Ricky had something to say about his coaching style, the same person that everyone killed on the regular for his fist pump not going for it overly conservative do it my way or the highway bid??
And yet everyone thought Orton was better than Henne also… Henne goes elsewhere and he gets the starting position (depending on the team) he will be winning in most any other teams offense period. Until you see Henne with a new coach and system he is still up for evaluation. If Henne goes elsewhere and blows it then you would be correct but im willing to bet your not on this..
Everyone thought Bush was a bust yet I like how he did this year, 1st 1000 yard of his career and how long has he been in?? But a new coach, new offensive scheme and whalllaa more 100 yards games than in NO, a superbowl all offensive team with a “better offensive scheme, coach whatever”.
Henne should stay and will still be better than Luck who will be exposed in the bowl game..
Henne should stay and will still be better than Luck who will be exposed in the bowl game..
That’s batshit insane. Biggest tinfoil hat statement I’ve read in years. You’re biases and prejudices are completely clouding your objectivity
Henne is the greatest and the Dolphins will go 14-2 this year and win the SB
If Henne plans on winning anywhere
he needs to learn how to:
1) read defenses
2) become more accurate
3) learn how to place the ball into the proper area for his receivers to catch, not over there heads, behind them, etc.
4) make much better decisions, which would lead to…
5) stop throwing so many game/season/career ending interceptions
6) make the players around him better
7) most importantly, become a true leader, not the trumped up “we made him captain so the team would like him better” type of leader. In 11 games, Matt Moore has already taken over the leadership role on the offense. The same role that Henne NEVER could earn himself. Leadership is the most underrated and IMO, the most important attribute that a QB should have. Moore has it, Tebow has it, every QB that’s worth a crap in the league has it. Henne just doesn’t have it. He will never command a huddle due to that lack of it.
P.S. That natural leadership stuff, you know, the most important attribute of being a QB… Luck has it. Just thought you should know.
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Ha a little sarcasm from Duke. Did not know you had it in you.
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by texascowpunk on Dec 28, 2011 9:33 AM EST up reply actions
I voted yes
But not sure what I meant by yes. Maybe I should have voted no, but no to what? I really should voted for the third option.
Just so you voted. Thats what matters!
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by texascowpunk on Dec 25, 2011 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
I've warmed up to Daboll
I think he should stay. His play calling seemed to have gradually improved and he shows the ability to trust his QB and go for the big play down the field consistently. We offense hasn’t done very well in 4Q’s, to which Daboll probably deserves part of the blame. But generally I’m liking the play calling and he’s young/learning.
I donno, I’m pretty happy with Daboll overall.
Henne is the greatest and the Dolphins will go 14-2 this year and win the SB
i love what Daboll has brought to this team.
i don’t think it’s coincidence this is the first year with a 1K RB and a 1K WR in the franchise’s history. Plus, I love the thought of the occasional flea flicker we run these days.
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